When I meant "four times" its my way of saying Prince treated her worst when in return he received Jill's loyality and patience. I didnt really said it as of a way of give a specific number of all the mistreatment incidents Jill experienced by Prince since I wasnt there and Jill isnt fully speaking out on this. But if a fourth incident get a consideration then there are speculations of her faced physical abuse by him and how he broken her arm. She mentioned this indirect when she had her Myspace and put a picture of her 1999 era picture and said Marilyn Monroe want her arm back. And also she expressed indirectly of some sort of abused she faced by Prince when Chris Brown got attention for sang that Michael Jackson tribute at the Bet Awards last year.
You are right, she had the chance to leave five years prior to her signed that contract especially she likely witnessed firsthand how Prince did to the Family,Vanity herself, and even there were bad blood with him and the Time around Purple Rain all the former protegees in regard them had little control of their careers. She should had use their frustrations with Prince and how her album was constantly push back as a sign for her to bounce when had the chance, She should had move on as early as 1984 when she notice majority of Purple Rain movie musicians and even Sheila E were getting help from Prince while he left her hang dry even though she was the most talented among majority of them. But she was a typical young musician who want the megastar to help her out and willing to sacrifice and suffer just try to achieve her dream. I am sorry for Jill and her pain (I can tell she still deal with the hurtness to this day) and all but she cant totally blame everything on Prince for her career and how it resulted when she had chance and opportunity to leave while the iron was hot. Even when I read books about how Prince and Jill met it seem like he valued her talent but he had little interest in investing in her long-term. To him she was just one of his jumpoffs with the voice that he can easily take advantage of. | |
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It's kind of hypocritical...criticizing prince and how he chooses to lead his life, yet she's the one at home on her pc gathering details of how he spends his time and posting about it on facebook. Who's the unhappy one here? | |
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Please stop this bullshit. They were all grown assed adults making their own decisions. | |
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What bullshit? If you read my post you know that I stated Jill was a grown woman even at the time she could have left Prince when she had the chance and she chose to stay. | |
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"open your heart, open your mind
A train is leaving all day..." | |
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Prince, heed Jill's advice. Get a life - Quit with being a world class musician and get yourself a FB page, man! You'll never know a girl called Nikki and you'll never find Erotic City | |
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Prince is like a drug....he makes you addicted after just one taste. Look at all the people, including those on the org, who have ever liked him....non can let him go. He is just that damn good...hmmmm. Trying to not do Prince things is like going to rehab I guess! I was in Prince rehab and just had a relapse when I started typing p-r-i-n-c-e-.-o-r-g Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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LOL Discuss something that others don't agree with? Now that is NOT what the org is for! Its for going along brainless with whatever the majority says! LOL But seriously, your posts are almost always on point, including this one! Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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Her career isn't exactly what Prince's is.....so I'd say performing with him will do more for her career than not. After all, its her time spent with him in the past that most people still talk about. Not her work she's done without him. She obviously finds performing with him more gratifying than performing alone. So she is lucky to get the chance to perform with a celeb on his level. And she knows that....which is why she is waiting by the phone. Ahhh, Prince keeping a woman waiting by the phone...he still has it. Sheila isn't exempt from the power of the Prince! Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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So Prince, her former boss, should be blamed for her not being able to feed her kids? Prince gets blamed for everything fucking thing around here!!! I guess I should blame my ex boss that I can't pay my light bill for this month? Or does that just work for Prince. If any of these ex protoges can't pay their bills its b/c their sorry asses thought Prince would make them famous b/c he was talented and gorgeous and it didn't work. Why? B/C they have NO TALENT!!! If they had, no one would be able to hold them back! Don't blame Prince for these sorry ass people who, if couldn't make it in the music business, could have done like us normal folks and carried their uneducated asses back to college and gotten a real job. But no, they are too good to do that, they want to still ride on Prince's coat tails after all these years. And kudos to the Prince fans for calling them out on their shit! Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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I shall now give my 2 cents. I won't bash Jill, I don't feel I need to at this moment. I like to think people have good intentions, so maybe she really is concerned for him. Honestly, she isn't saying anything I haven't thought myself.
Maybe she remembers "Prince wanting a wife and kids." Maybe she feels that he isn't really happy playing all these shows just b/c it makes him happy. Maybe he IS playing them to keep from thinking about how lonely he really is. He is having fun onstage, that's obvious. That doesn't mean he isn't using the playing for a substitute. He is going around holding women's hands, singing to them onstage, so he isn't in a serious relationship. No man does that when he is serious about a woman. So the question really is, does Prince really WANT to be settled down and loved and part of a family? He IS getting to an age where that is important...During dinnerat this past Christmas, I said to my family "I wonder what Prince is doing right now. I wonder if he's ok? Is he lonely? Does he miss not having kids? I hope he's ok." It kind of hit all of them that yeah, maybe he is lonely. I mean, that's a normal thought. Not really all that bad. Family is usually associated with unconditionaly love..and that's something everybody needs!
Now of course, Jill could have just been saying this for attention. Maybe she is just mad b/c Prince is getting all the attention and still selling out shows, and she is well...not doing much. Maybe that was just a I-woke-up-hating-the-world-today-so-I-will-lash-out-at-the-first-person-that-comes-to-mind. We all know that Prince tends to just linger on the mind. There is just something about him. She is NOT invincible. She spent years following up behind this man, its obviously she still likes him enough to even keep up with what he is doing. So maybe she is just saying this out of spite. Maybe she's mad about Misty..who knoww?
Either way, its her page, she can post what she wants. If people think she is being full of shit....they should call her out on it. If they think she is being sincere, they should say that. Either way, if she posts it on a public page, she had better be ready for the responses. And this is the internet, this is a place for socializing...which usually means discussing things. People can and should post whatever they want. I for one, am glad, Prince has such loyal fans, I'm one of them and will defend him if I think people are being spiteful towards him! I only associate on a regular basis with fans who truly care for Prince, that makes for exciting, memorable, and inspiring conversations! And FB has some great Prince fans, LOL, we catch everything!! Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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Calm down. I don't excuse Jill for making that deal. She signed it. I am pointing out that she may feel Prince holds some responsibility for her hardship if she was under a contract but not releasing any music and at the same time can't leave to go somewhere else. That is like you are under contract for a company., Company A. The company tells you they have plans for you but the time is not right yet.... but soon. In the meantime you aren't getting paid by the company because .... you are not working. To add to that... you can't go out and get another job because you are under contract with company A. So instead of accepting a job that has better compensation and a future, you have to accept sporadic, temp jobs with no contract... because you are under contract by company A. That could make a person angry. Especially if this situation lasted more than a few months. Didn't this go on for a few years? "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Jill is about 4 to 5 years younger than Teena. Teena moved into Jill's family home (Jill's mom, Winnie Martin, was Teena's manager. Winnie was married to Berry's brother, Fuller Gordy, at the time.) and a sibling relationship began when Teena was just 18 or 19 years old. I think that if Jill and Prince had not hooked up when Jill was so young (while she was singing backgrounds for Teena as the opening act for the Dirty Mind tour,) she might have been signed with Motown and even been groomed by Teena. But at the same time, Tee was working overtime to find and brand herself at Motown, and to find herself in the context of her relationship with Rick and his spiralling out of cocaine-trol as the years went on. (See: lyric's for Rick's song Happy.)
Prince and Jill met at a time when Prince was not feeling widespread love from the world outside of "the R&B crowd." But his music was transcending the artificial sand lines, and I think that just made him extra sexy, cool and compelling. And then, Prince seemed to go down that Prince the Pimp path as the years went on.
Jill herself has shared that she didn't want to burden her sister Teena with the business side over at Paisley Park, and kept that to herself. She wanted to keep their relationship a personal/familial one. Jill went on to say that there were times where she felt in her older sister's shadow. And that she chose to stay in the shadows by singing behind curtains for V6. She has some insight into the situation, just doesn't seem to able to let it all go. I think this is a common challenge for many of us - letting go of a situation that has ran its' course, but because of some integral affinity for the situation, such as love.
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lol uh she sure ain't an ugly old wrinkled bitch | |
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In itself this line is not bitter, 1st she pays a compliment:He won't stop playing
then she comments on what even Prince.org fans talk about all the time "Is Prince seeing anyone, is he happy" etc etc That comment has nothing to do with being bitter... | |
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... with all that said, bottom line and think about it, if she wanted to say 'Screw Obama' she could, it's her Facebook page. A lot of the Related Artist on Facebook and myspace and what have you are very 'vague' with comments they make toward Prince, Jill included. I do not remember ever reading someone out right BASHING Prince (past say prince.org ... LoL) Mind you, that doesn't stop me from lovin' her, the Twinz, Shelby J. or any other Related Artist for that matter.
Jill is Jill ... LoL
At this point, right now, I choose not to speculate.
I did when she first posted but, this thread was on page 2 or 3 when I sat back and thought, that we've given this thread more strength and perhaps that's what Jill was lookin' to do, just get us talkin' and that's not a bad thing per se, is it ??? Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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Having a bad day??? "open your heart, open your mind
A train is leaving all day..." | |
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I think Jill was perhaps Prince's most talented protege and certainly one of his most attractive.
I always wondered why her career was never more spectacular then it was.
These posts explain why. She may be a great singer and has a fantastic figure but she lack the passion and drive of Prince. Madonna, Katie Perry and many others can't hold a candle to Jill in talent but they more then make up for it in drive and love for being infront of an audience. She lacked the one thing Vanity had (besides looks) that "it" factor that makes some performers light up like xmas trees when the spotlight is on them. Amazingly she still does not understand those people. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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I agree.I also think that Jill was never really a priority for Prince.She had been in the Prince camp since 1982 but her album wasn't released until 1987.Look at all the other proteges that Prince concentrated on before that (Vanity 6,the Time,Apollonia,The Family,Mazarati,Sheila E.).And then,when Jill's album was finally released,it contained several tracks that were old and outdated ("G-Spot" is a great song,but I think that concept would have been much more provocative and shocking in 1984). | |
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Jeez. Was there any need for the bile that just spewed forth from your brain? Check yourself. MY eyes feel like they need to be disinfected after that chit. Grow up.
And back on topic, whilst I'm not saying I agree with her one way or another, she does raise a pretty valid point - not that we'll ever know the answer, but it's interesting nonetheless. | |
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Really? You asked your family what Prince was doing on Christmas? You really must be his number one fan! | |
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Exactly.I wonder how things might have turned out for her if she had went a different route.She stayed in the Prince camp all those years and has nothing to show for it....no hit singles,no platinum albums.On another thread,someone made a very good point regarding Prince's proteges.This was just a way for him to release more material.I'm not really sure if he ever intended for these people to become huge superstars with longevity. | |
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Right! I didn't catch that. wow "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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