Thread started 03/02/11 9:33ampurplenuts |
Why is Dez the only former Prince associate to write a book about his time with Prince? In fact, it is the only book from someone who was actually there. All the other Prince books are written from second hand accounts at best. Some are true crap and full of bad information. I have read just about all of them. Dez's book is the only one that had a ring of truth to it that leaves me confident that his account of the history is indeed fact.
I wish he would put more music out. One Man is a great record and gets overlooked in discusions of solo projects from old Prince buddies. |
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Reply #1 posted 03/02/11 9:48am
emilio319 |
I agree about "One Man." I really like that album, it's great. |
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Reply #2 posted 03/02/11 12:14pm
cbarnes3121 |
i wish dez would come and rock out with prince a few shows i talked 2 levi and he told me 2 look out 4 something with him and prince in trhe future. he always told me there was no bad beef between them like it was reported. |
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Reply #3 posted 03/02/11 12:28pm
Shango |
Didn't Vanity write some chapters about her time with him ? I didn't buy her bio. |
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Reply #4 posted 03/02/11 12:39pm
Zannaloaf
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Cause he didn't make all that Purple Rain tour money?
Cause custom headbands aren't cheap?
Cause Tennessee is so slow you have time to write?
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Reply #5 posted 03/02/11 12:55pm
Zannaloaf
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purplenuts said:
In fact, it is the only book from someone who was actually there. All the other Prince books are written from second hand accounts at best. Some are true crap and full of bad information. I have read just about all of them. Dez's book is the only one that had a ring of truth to it that leaves me confident that his account of the history is indeed fact.
I wish he would put more music out. One Man is a great record and gets overlooked in discusions of solo projects from old Prince buddies.
He writes about experiences from 1978 - 1983. I'm sure things changed a LOT after Purple Rain hit. I'd love to have a book on stuff from 1984 - present. |
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Reply #6 posted 03/04/11 5:16am
funksterr |
purplenuts said:
In fact, it is the only book from someone who was actually there. All the other Prince books are written from second hand accounts at best. Some are true crap and full of bad information. I have read just about all of them. Dez's book is the only one that had a ring of truth to it that leaves me confident that his account of the history is indeed fact.
I wish he would put more music out. One Man is a great record and gets overlooked in discusions of solo projects from old Prince buddies.
The facts as he perceived them and worded in a way that he felt comfortable saying publicly about, what were supposed to be private off the record matters in a highly profitable business situation. What Dez did, in some circles he would be labeled a "rat". I'm not saying the guy is necessarilly being untruthful or intentionally misleading, just that Prince kept a lot of information and arrangements he had with various parties within his own circle to himself, never wanted these stories to go public, and from Dez's perspective things may have looked different than they actually were. Dez's account was written for $$$$$, so I wouldn't call it fact. |
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Reply #7 posted 03/04/11 5:45am
dandeeland |
Does anyone really care? I wouldnt think there would be a good market. Who would buy it? |
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Reply #8 posted 03/04/11 6:48am
DecaturStone |
Well if the book wasn't so hard to get I would want it. The Per Nelson books are all I have |
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Reply #10 posted 03/04/11 7:43am
Graycap23 |
emilio319 said:
I agree about "One Man." I really like that album, it's great.
Wow....one the worst pieces of music I've ever heard in my life. |
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Reply #11 posted 03/04/11 12:42pm
phonzarelli |
I dug the OneMan album a LOT. Have yet to read the book. I've always imagined it would be softshoe stuff, so I avoided it.
I think most of the associated artists might not have much to say that hasn't already been said or they are too busy with their careers to bother with the he-said/she-said. Also, if they signed them, NDAs are a billy jack if you breach the agreement. |
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Reply #12 posted 03/06/11 8:29am
sosgemini |
funksterr said:
purplenuts said:
In fact, it is the only book from someone who was actually there. All the other Prince books are written from second hand accounts at best. Some are true crap and full of bad information. I have read just about all of them. Dez's book is the only one that had a ring of truth to it that leaves me confident that his account of the history is indeed fact.
I wish he would put more music out. One Man is a great record and gets overlooked in discusions of solo projects from old Prince buddies.
The facts as he perceived them and worded in a way that he felt comfortable saying publicly about, what were supposed to be private off the record matters in a highly profitable business situation. What Dez did, in some circles he would be labeled a "rat". I'm not saying the guy is necessarilly being untruthful or intentionally misleading, just that Prince kept a lot of information and arrangements he had with various parties within his own circle to himself, never wanted these stories to go public, and from Dez's perspective things may have looked different than they actually were. Dez's account was written for $$$$$, so I wouldn't call it fact.
Such as? Space for sale... |
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Reply #13 posted 03/07/11 4:09pm
purplenuts |
funksterr said:
purplenuts said:
In fact, it is the only book from someone who was actually there. All the other Prince books are written from second hand accounts at best. Some are true crap and full of bad information. I have read just about all of them. Dez's book is the only one that had a ring of truth to it that leaves me confident that his account of the history is indeed fact.
I wish he would put more music out. One Man is a great record and gets overlooked in discusions of solo projects from old Prince buddies.
The facts as he perceived them and worded in a way that he felt comfortable saying publicly about, what were supposed to be private off the record matters in a highly profitable business situation. What Dez did, in some circles he would be labeled a "rat". I'm not saying the guy is necessarilly being untruthful or intentionally misleading, just that Prince kept a lot of information and arrangements he had with various parties within his own circle to himself, never wanted these stories to go public, and from Dez's perspective things may have looked different than they actually were. Dez's account was written for $$$$$, so I wouldn't call it fact.
What? Which Prince book was written for free? You think the authors of those other Prince books didnt get paid? Who is dumb enough to believe that something cannot be true if the author has the audacity to actually accept compensation? [Edited 3/7/11 16:11pm] |
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Reply #14 posted 03/11/11 11:24am
jaybendy |
DecaturStone said:
Well if the book wasn't so hard to get I would want it. The Per Nelson books are all I have
The book isn't that hard to get. He sells them autographed on his website if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure how long it takes to GET the book, but I'm pretty sure he's not getting bombarded with millions of orders every day. This ain't amazon.com. Prince esta muerto...
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Reply #15 posted 03/11/11 3:35pm
NouveauDance |
Because he was off the scene before Prince started demanding that anyone who came within 10 feet of him sign a non-disclosure contract. |
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Reply #16 posted 03/11/11 4:17pm
Spinlight |
NouveauDance said:
Because he was off the scene before Prince started demanding that anyone who came within 10 feet of him sign a non-disclosure contract.
We all remember what happened when Wendy and Lisa started getting comfortable mentioning Prince in public again - they got shut the fuck down real quick and were quite upset about that. [Edited 3/11/11 16:17pm] |
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Reply #17 posted 03/11/11 8:34pm
motherfunka
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Spinlight said:
NouveauDance said:
Because he was off the scene before Prince started demanding that anyone who came within 10 feet of him sign a non-disclosure contract.
We all remember what happened when Wendy and Lisa started getting comfortable mentioning Prince in public again - they got shut the fuck down real quick and were quite upset about that.
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I would really like to read one of those contracts. I mean what? Once you work with Prince you can't discuss your own damn life? The word arrogant fits Prince to a T. [Edited 3/11/11 20:37pm] TRUE BLUE |
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Reply #18 posted 03/11/11 11:27pm
sosgemini |
I don't think Wendy & Lisa are bound to a confidentiality clause. Someone should ask them if they are. Space for sale... |
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Reply #19 posted 03/23/11 12:57pm
lipstick |
Purplenuts that is a good question. Wouldn't it be great if Wendy & Lisa wrote a book about their career and time spent with Prince. They could give their thoughts on the other people Prince worked with as well as themselves. An interesting read 4 sure. |
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Reply #20 posted 03/23/11 1:07pm
MickyDolenz |
motherfunka said:
I would really like to read one of those contracts. I mean what? Once you work with Prince you can't discuss your own damn life? The word arrogant fits Prince to a T.
Many celebrities have their employees, friends, or entourage sign confidentiality contracts. It's not unique to Prince. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton |
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Reply #21 posted 03/23/11 1:35pm
vainandy |
I would rather read a book about Prince written by Andre back when he first left the group. When an ex bandmember is pissed, that's when you get the real good dirt that the others would be afraid to tell. Andy is a four letter word. |
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Reply #22 posted 03/24/11 3:02am
Jboogiee |
MickyDolenz said:
motherfunka said:
I would really like to read one of those contracts. I mean what? Once you work with Prince you can't discuss your own damn life? The word arrogant fits Prince to a T.
Many celebrities have their employees, friends, or entourage sign confidentiality contracts. It's not unique to Prince. Exactly,a whole shitload of artists have these agreements. |
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Reply #23 posted 03/24/11 4:46pm
strmn |
sosgemini said:
I don't think Wendy & Lisa are bound to a confidentiality clause. Someone should ask them if they are.
Well, in the youtube video clip of the Q & A they did for members of the press after they received their Emmy last year, they talk about how they were sent a letter from a lawyer telling them to stop talking about Prince. You can easily find this online by googling "Wendy, Lisa, and Prince".
Wendy makes a very cryptic remark in the video about "wishing she could talk about everything she knows." The question from the press to which she is responding is muffled. I'm curious to know whether she was asked about his religion, or what. |
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Reply #24 posted 03/24/11 5:58pm
sosgemini |
strmn said:
sosgemini said:
I don't think Wendy & Lisa are bound to a confidentiality clause. Someone should ask them if they are.
Well, in the youtube video clip of the Q & A they did for members of the press after they received their Emmy last year, they talk about how they were sent a letter from a lawyer telling them to stop talking about Prince. You can easily find this online by googling "Wendy, Lisa, and Prince".
Wendy makes a very cryptic remark in the video about "wishing she could talk about everything she knows." The question from the press to which she is responding is muffled. I'm curious to know whether she was asked about his religion, or what.
I got the impression it was more of a threat to sue for defamation versus breach of contract. I could be wrong though. Space for sale... |
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Reply #25 posted 03/25/11 12:05am
Spinlight |
sosgemini said:
strmn said:
Well, in the youtube video clip of the Q & A they did for members of the press after they received their Emmy last year, they talk about how they were sent a letter from a lawyer telling them to stop talking about Prince. You can easily find this online by googling "Wendy, Lisa, and Prince".
Wendy makes a very cryptic remark in the video about "wishing she could talk about everything she knows." The question from the press to which she is responding is muffled. I'm curious to know whether she was asked about his religion, or what.
I got the impression it was more of a threat to sue for defamation versus breach of contract. I could be wrong though.
Six of one, half dozen the other. The threat of any suing for whatever reason keeps their lips sealed, begrudgingly. If they truly wanted to press the issue, I suppose they could and not be legally bound, but they are bound emotionally to it. This, in part, is likely due to their knowledge of why and how he does those confidentiality agreements since they were likely under them after a time. |
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Reply #26 posted 03/25/11 5:07am
purplenuts |
lipstick said:
Purplenuts that is a good question. Wouldn't it be great if Wendy & Lisa wrote a book about their career and time spent with Prince. They could give their thoughts on the other people Prince worked with as well as themselves. An interesting read 4 sure.
Wendy and Lisa have run their mouths about Prince for so long that there wouldnt be anything interesting in the book. It would also add publicity to their already overstated relevance in Prince history. Memoirs of Vanity, Andre Cymone, Morris Day, or even Mayte would be much more interesting to me, personally. |
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Reply #27 posted 03/25/11 5:09am
purplenuts |
Jboogiee said:
MickyDolenz said:
Many celebrities have their employees, friends, or entourage sign confidentiality contracts. It's not unique to Prince.
Exactly,a whole shitload of artists have these agreements.
Right - but somehow it is Prince being an a-hole for trying to maintain some semblence of his right to privacy and character preservation. |
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Reply #28 posted 03/25/11 11:50am
sosgemini |
purplenuts said:
lipstick said:
Purplenuts that is a good question. Wouldn't it be great if Wendy & Lisa wrote a book about their career and time spent with Prince. They could give their thoughts on the other people Prince worked with as well as themselves. An interesting read 4 sure.
Wendy and Lisa have run their mouths about Prince for so long that there wouldnt be anything interesting in the book. It would also add publicity to their already overstated relevance in Prince history. Memoirs of Vanity, Andre Cymone, Morris Day, or even Mayte would be much more interesting to me, personally.
:blah:
Stop trying to force your personal opinion on everyone here. If people want a Wendy and Lisa tell all, get off their dick and let them enjoy their idea. Killjoy! Space for sale... |
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Reply #29 posted 03/25/11 12:34pm
Zannaloaf
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purplenuts said:
lipstick said:
Purplenuts that is a good question. Wouldn't it be great if Wendy & Lisa wrote a book about their career and time spent with Prince. They could give their thoughts on the other people Prince worked with as well as themselves. An interesting read 4 sure.
Wendy and Lisa have run their mouths about Prince for so long that there wouldnt be anything interesting in the book. It would also add publicity to their already overstated relevance in Prince history. Memoirs of Vanity, Andre Cymone, Morris Day, or even Mayte would be much more interesting to me, personally.
Vanity has one - ain't all that interesting. Morris Day? Maybe. But we kinda know that story already. Mayte? I like Mayte fine, but her insight would be just personal- not ,much about the music I am afraid.
Wendy and Lisa's would be the best because they WORKED WITH and INFLUENCED Prince AND have a great relevant career still. They brought skills and sounds to the table. Andre would b most likely to fit that - and he might make a good book too. But no one else had the time frame with Prince that they encompassed- during his most well know - and imo prolific and groundbreaking period in his career. Just because you seem to have have a personal problem with Wendy and Lisa doesn't make it not the subject of a great book.
Of course they probably don't have time what with having a lot of work and all. |
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