Deadflow3r said:

One thing is that not all woman see womanizing as the end of the world. Jackie O went into both her marriages knowing that her men were filthy rich and skirt chasers. She was raised to think that all men cheat and she picked the best of the cheaters I guess.

I don't know how these women were raised. Mayte said her parents sent her to live at Paisley at 17 because they trusted him. Either they are fools or they were more worried about there little Star Search Contestant's career then they were about her heart or anything else.

Different people have different values. Many of Prince's woman have a sort of "don't ask, don't tell" way of dealing with his ways from what I can see. It's when he gets so very blatant about it that he has the wife in another place while he is running around LA with his new coochie that they scream uncle. I mean he writes songs for his playthings that make it clear he is cheating on his wife. If you stay after that point you clearly have an open relationship.

Neither of those wives were blind and both knew all about his past. When a woman in her 20's lies to herself and believes he will be different with her, well I am a bit sympathetic. But no way in hell do I have sympathy for a woman over 30 that marries a blatant skirt chaser and then gets all crazy when there is talk of someone else. Prince always has at least 3 women, never 1 and seldom 2 for long.

Great points!!

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Age has nothing to do with it, they were mature enough to work their way into his bed, they should have been mature enough to deal with the complications that came along with it.

Age has a hell of a lot to do with it.

Prince started grooming some of these women when they were still minors (Anna, Mayte). ...and when someone magically turns 18, or even 21, they don't suddenly gain all of life's experience in one mind-numbing flash. Mayte herself has said she really had no idea how relationships/marriage were supposed to be at that point in her life. Show me a 22 year old that says they have all the answers and I'll show you a fool.

Indeed, youth is about the only excuse Mani could have in her obsessiveness and disregard for the fact that Prince was a married man. Wearing Mayte's dresses around was pretty damn shameful, though. Unless maybe Prince was pulling them out and not telling her whose they were.

..but I quite think that is the exact reason Prince likes them young. They are more impressionable and more easily molded compared to older, more headstrong women. He might be attracted to women that have a stronger sense of self but that doesn't seem to work out (Susannah Melvoin, Sheila E., Kim Basinger, etc...)

Also, with idea that these women were after Prince just for record deals or whatever hardly seems like a realistic picture. It's possible that some were BUT this, also, seems like part of Prince's routine to want to put them on tape. Most guys smoke a cigarette after sex, Prince hits the record button... for everyone from Brenda to Bria.

DesireeNevermind said:

Ottensen said:

Why are you getting so bent out of shape over a simple comparison? You act like somebody just stole your bike

for realz!

I think Eric fine as wine and would love to take a sip. I hope he and Mani make a baby together.

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

prodigalfan said:

Right, I think she was in love with the rock star and protectively loved the man once the mask slipped and she saw the real Prince. But he wont' slow down with the chicks on the side... and I think as time went on she grew tired of it.

it is one thing to conform to a "prince woman" type when the man is satisfying whatever you need, love affection, emotional securtiy etc. But when you are making sacrifices on your own character, integrity, family ties etc for the man, AND HE IS LYING TO YOU AND CHEATING... well as you grow older, I think you just grow tired of it.

The fact that she got some financial gains from the marriage... well she should. He hooks up with these late teen women and sucks up all their youth (late teens and 20s) then tosses them as they approach 30. They should be compensated for that decade of life that they spent with him. Sorry, but I just believe if Prince wants to play, then he should pay. not just Prince... any man or woman.

'Cause at 40 something... Prince KNOWS the game... at 22, Mani (Mayte, Anna Fantastic, Nona Gaye) did not. He had an unfair advantage. And he used the promise of comfort that his money and fame can provide. They should at least get a helping hand as he is showing them the door.

Every one of those beautiful women could have married a successful younger man from their hometown that would have been more sincere in marriage and starting a family. A relationship with some staying power. But they wasted their youth and time on Prince's bullshit love game. I don't think they should just be dropped back off at the high school door that they were picked up 10 -12 years ago, but now 30 years old and the anchor title as "Prince's EX wife" without $OMETHING for all their trouble and heartache.

I for one, am glad to see Prince interested in 30 something women. Better than meeting a 16 year old... "waiting until she is 18" and then pouncing on her naive, inexperienced then ditching her when she gets a little age and independence in her.

You're missing one key element...these WOMEN (all were well over the age of 18) had free will. They choose to be with Prince and conform to his way...I have NO sympathy for them. Non of them were complaining when they were spending his millions now were they? And they all knew well in advance how Prince thought a woman should be. If they didn't like it, they should have not used him for his cash and found them one of those "young, successful men." Prince deserves better than that too.

We don't know if any of these women really loved him, they could have put on a great front for the cameras and made him look like the bad guy. All this "woe is me, Prince made me wear his clothes, he starved me, he controlled me, blah, blah, blah." Give me a effing break! They sure didn't mind it when he was dropping millions to get their non-talented asses a album recorded now were they?

Age has nothing to do with it, they were mature enough to work their way into his bed, they should have been mature enough to deal with the complications that came along with it.

And no, unless they contributed to his success, they don't deserve a damn bit of his money...unless they had kids with him, which they didn't. I hope he had a pre-nup!!

Any young lady married to a rich older man has the full ability to go to college and make something of herself while married to this man since they don't have to worry about money. There are no excuses. None.

If all they were were gold digging tramps, then yeah, he should have dropped their asses back off in the gutter they came from. The key word being IF...

He had free will as well. I don't feel sorry for ANY OF THEM (except Mayte because she DID have a baby and tragedy happened... and regardless of whose fault it was, she as a grieving YOUNG mom, was treated pretty shabby).

It is a give and take... both parties had something to gain and lose. If Prince really wanted someone genuine to love "him for him"... then he should act in kind. You treat a young lady like "hired help" then that is what you will get. You treat your wife as a wife... THAT is what you will get.

I think he should have had a prenup... and I thought he did. But the women got a financial gain... as they should.

And I disagree with the women having opportunity to go to school. Carmen Electra talked about having to sleep in full makeup just in case Prince decided to stop by. If she was required to wear makeup during sleep... I don't think she could not be available because she has a chapter test, or a lab at the local community college. I don't think so.

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

godyssey said:

Wow, this thread has gone in a totally different direction!

Personally.... Okay. We ALL know who Prince is and how he operates with women. I don't think that ANY woman (I'm stressing WOMAN, so this would exclude Mayte who was only a teenager when they got together) whom he dates or marries, deserves a dime. Again. For decades, we've known who he is and what he's about. Deal with it or leave him alone. I'm not buying this innocence stuff, especially when one was college educated. She was no fool. And I actually like her! I just believe that the idea of spousal support is so archaic.

And isn't Eric getting spousal "support" too???? They're like two, extremely capable, welfare recipients throwing it in the faces of their exes. Maybe that's thier deal?

[Edited 11/25/10 0:00am]

She was a teen when she met him...not a teen when they got married. She was capable of making her own decisions and did. There are PLENTY of teenage girls that are in relationships now that don't deal with the crap Mayte "claimed" to have had to deal with (or others claim she endured). There are no excuses for any of the women that have been in his life...education or no education. Going to college does not mean you have experience with an older man or have any more wisdom when it comes to a relationship. So why excuse one exwife, but not the other? Both were in their 20s when they married P.

One did not get "taken over" until after college... by that time you have had time to learn and develop your own self. The other was taken over as a 16 year old. She was very impressionable to another 16 year old boy... she didn't have a chance with an older man, rich, dynamic, engaging... etc. etc. All would be fine if he "did her right'... he did her wrong. plain and simple. the fact that she was so young... just exacerbated that wrong.

Tell you what... let your 16 sister meet Prince and become pen pals with him until she is legal then get into a relationship with him until he grows bored and unceremoniously dump her in her late 20s. I'm sure you will appreciate a little cash for your little sister to help her on her way... for her troubles. I'm sure you would not want her to basically go back to the end of the line and be 10 years behind her peers because she wasted precious time playing games.

Don't get me wrong... this happens to a lot of young people... waste their time with some bullshit... but in this case, he has cash to sort of right the apple cart. The very cash used a tool to topple the apple cart. Sorry, I think they deserve some sort of financial compensationl.

[Edited 12/6/10 18:36pm]

jtfolden said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Age has nothing to do with it, they were mature enough to work their way into his bed, they should have been mature enough to deal with the complications that came along with it.

Age has a hell of a lot to do with it.

Prince started grooming some of these women when they were still minors (Anna, Mayte). ...and when someone magically turns 18, or even 21, they don't suddenly gain all of life's experience in one mind-numbing flash. Mayte herself has said she really had no idea how relationships/marriage were supposed to be at that point in her life. Show me a 22 year old that says they have all the answers and I'll show you a fool.

Indeed, youth is about the only excuse Mani could have in her obsessiveness and disregard for the fact that Prince was a married man. Wearing Mayte's dresses around was pretty damn shameful, though. Unless maybe Prince was pulling them out and not telling her whose they were.

..but I quite think that is the exact reason Prince likes them young. They are more impressionable and more easily molded compared to older, more headstrong women. He might be attracted to women that have a stronger sense of self but that doesn't seem to work out (Susannah Melvoin, Sheila E., Kim Basinger, etc...)

Also, with idea that these women were after Prince just for record deals or whatever hardly seems like a realistic picture. It's possible that some were BUT this, also, seems like part of Prince's routine to want to put them on tape. Most guys smoke a cigarette after sex, Prince hits the record button... for everyone from Brenda to Bria.

perfect post on so many points.

Deadflow3r said:

wonder505 said:

They both used each other, I doubt either of them truly loved each other or that she really gave a shit about being a JW, however that was her ticket to money and fame and he used her as his trophy. However, as you can see, Mani came out the winner, those alimony payments must be sweet!!!

The are two reasons that I doubt that Mani was a user.

First, she was only 22 years old, from Toronto with absolutely no knowledge of the entertainment industry when she pursued her idol Prince. She was not a 36 year old woman that had been around L.A. for over a decade, had her man game down and knew the ropes.

Second, she went specifically after him. She didn't saddle up to every married rock star and try and make a go of it. Back then she had her sights set on that particular man. Was she "in love' or just obsessed? I am not a psychiatrist but I think at the time she thought she was in love with Mayte's husband, and that she and he were meant to be. I think after hearing a few verses of "Someone is delusional, lord, kum by yah" she woke up, came to her senses and divorced the man. At 29 she became independently wealthy, with more money then either of her parents ever made and a better house then they had after working a lifetime. She also probably drives the nicest car of any of the Testolini's.

That religion thing? Again she was 22 when she met P and 25 when they became baptized together. I don't think it was as much a shrewd move as a delusional one. A 36 year olf video vixen becoming a J.W??? is all I have to say to that 8-)

I don't know how I missed this line before.

Eric Benet just announced on the Tom Joyner Morning Show that he and Manuela are engaged. And supposedly Manuela confirmed the engagement when she was emailed on Facebook as to whether it is true.

I haven't heard any response from the woman who claims to be Eric's girlfriend. She's made other claims on being with Eric. But I won't go there.

Oh so they were engaged! Sneaky! I knew they were wearing rings but I thought it was just coincidence. Now I know, they been planning on getting hitched for a while now. Clever. Congrats to them. I think they are well suited for each other. Beautiful baby on the way. Remember I told you!

DesireeNevermind said:

Oh so they were engaged! Sneaky! I knew they were wearing rings but I thought it was just coincidence. Now I know, they been planning on getting hitched for a while now. Clever. Congrats to them. I think they are well suited for each other. Beautiful baby on the way. Remember I told you!

Yeah, you did. I hope this helps Eric's career.

FanOfMusic said:

Eric Benet just announced on the Tom Joyner Morning Show that he and Manuela are engaged. And supposedly Manuela confirmed the engagement when she was emailed on Facebook as to whether it is true.

I haven't heard any response from the woman who claims to be Eric's girlfriend. She's made other claims on being with Eric. But I won't go there.

And that is why you shouldn't have come up in here on this other woman's behalf in the first place. Let her sort out her own issues.

If you're sharing your own opinion then fine, but that stuff about being asked to set the record straight...not so much.

DesireeNevermind said:

Oh so they were engaged! Sneaky! I knew they were wearing rings but I thought it was just coincidence. Now I know, they been planning on getting hitched for a while now. Clever. Congrats to them. I think they are well suited for each other. Beautiful baby on the way. Remember I told you!

Cool...I wish them every happiness and blessings on their little bundle of joy.

jtfolden said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Age has nothing to do with it, they were mature enough to work their way into his bed, they should have been mature enough to deal with the complications that came along with it.

Age has a hell of a lot to do with it.

Prince started grooming some of these women when they were still minors (Anna, Mayte). ...and when someone magically turns 18, or even 21, they don't suddenly gain all of life's experience in one mind-numbing flash. Mayte herself has said she really had no idea how relationships/marriage were supposed to be at that point in her life. Show me a 22 year old that says they have all the answers and I'll show you a fool.

Indeed, youth is about the only excuse Mani could have in her obsessiveness and disregard for the fact that Prince was a married man. Wearing Mayte's dresses around was pretty damn shameful, though. Unless maybe Prince was pulling them out and not telling her whose they were.

..but I quite think that is the exact reason Prince likes them young. They are more impressionable and more easily molded compared to older, more headstrong women. He might be attracted to women that have a stronger sense of self but that doesn't seem to work out (Susannah Melvoin, Sheila E., Kim Basinger, etc...)

Also, with idea that these women were after Prince just for record deals or whatever hardly seems like a realistic picture. It's possible that some were BUT this, also, seems like part of Prince's routine to want to put them on tape. Most guys smoke a cigarette after sex, Prince hits the record button... for everyone from Brenda to Bria.

Well, we just differ on that idea...I'm not about giving sympathy for choices that people have control over. Sure Prince likes em young, they are easier to mold into what he wants..but it doesn't work out either way you look at it, young or old, impressionable or head strong. He's going after the wrong type. But I believe in tough love..if a girl make's her bead, she has to lay in it. But just because a woman is 22 when she marries doesn't mean she A. can't keep a marriage together or B. shouldn't be held accountable for her choices. And no one has all the answers to a marriage!

I love it how people are so quick to give Mayte sympathy, but quick to dismiss Mani!! Like they know exactly what happened between Prince and Mayte and Mani. No one does, internet gossip doesn't count. Mayte and Mani were around the same age and both old enough to look into the man they were about to marry. Sure Mayte met Prince at 16, but she didn't marry him until she was 23...that's an adult lady and is an average age for a bride. If anyone is to blame for her being "groomed" by Prince, its her parents, they allowed her to go and she wanted to go. Not all 17yr old girls would have made that decision. And at 17, she surely is accountable for her actions as well. You're right, they don't get a magic wisdom pill on their 18th b-day...

And I did use the "IF" they were after money. As I've stated before, I don't think Mani of all people wasn't after Prince's money or a record deal...I think she generally loved him and wanted him, which was good for him..he deserves to be loved and wanted. Too bad it didn't work out. And I guess since Prince don't smoke..he's got to do something to celebrate the big "O."

[Edited 12/8/10 9:56am]

prodigalfan said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

You're missing one key element...these WOMEN (all were well over the age of 18) had free will. They choose to be with Prince and conform to his way...I have NO sympathy for them. Non of them were complaining when they were spending his millions now were they? And they all knew well in advance how Prince thought a woman should be. If they didn't like it, they should have not used him for his cash and found them one of those "young, successful men." Prince deserves better than that too.

We don't know if any of these women really loved him, they could have put on a great front for the cameras and made him look like the bad guy. All this "woe is me, Prince made me wear his clothes, he starved me, he controlled me, blah, blah, blah." Give me a effing break! They sure didn't mind it when he was dropping millions to get their non-talented asses a album recorded now were they?

Age has nothing to do with it, they were mature enough to work their way into his bed, they should have been mature enough to deal with the complications that came along with it.

And no, unless they contributed to his success, they don't deserve a damn bit of his money...unless they had kids with him, which they didn't. I hope he had a pre-nup!!

Any young lady married to a rich older man has the full ability to go to college and make something of herself while married to this man since they don't have to worry about money. There are no excuses. None.

If all they were were gold digging tramps, then yeah, he should have dropped their asses back off in the gutter they came from. The key word being IF...

He had free will as well. I don't feel sorry for ANY OF THEM (except Mayte because she DID have a baby and tragedy happened... and regardless of whose fault it was, she as a grieving YOUNG mom, was treated pretty shabby).

I agree with you here! I'm not giving Prince a free pass...he has his faults just like the women do, no one is perfect in a relationship! And I have ALWAYS felt for Mayte. She suffered immensely over the lost of her baby, but so did Prince. I know what she was going through, I know it was very hard for her. I won't blame either her or Prince for the things that happened after the baby died, people grieve in so many ways....

It is a give and take... both parties had something to gain and lose. If Prince really wanted someone genuine to love "him for him"... then he should act in kind. You treat a young lady like "hired help" then that is what you will get. You treat your wife as a wife... THAT is what you will get.

Perhaps...not always. If your wife only wants to be "hired help" and you want her to be your perfect little wife, then things won't work out. Not all women have good intentions. The thing is, we just don't know what happened in the relationships, we weren't there.

I think he should have had a prenup... and I thought he did. But the women got a financial gain... as they should.

Sorry, I just don't agree here. We will agree to disagree. I don't want any of a man's money that I didn't help him earn...its selfish and just plain wrong. If you have kids, then that's something else. But these women enjoyed 5 years of Prince's millions and never lifted a finger to earn a dime, it was his talents that got him that money. And if I got a divorce, just because I make more money, I don't want no ex hubby taking money from me he didn't contribute in making. I will definately have a prenup! No Eric Benet's here!

And I disagree with the women having opportunity to go to school. Carmen Electra talked about having to sleep in full makeup just in case Prince decided to stop by. If she was required to wear makeup during sleep... I don't think she could not be available because she has a chapter test, or a lab at the local community college. I don't think so.

Are you serious? What does having to wear full makeup have to do with going to college? That is the worst excuse ever! I'm not denying she had to wear full makeup, after all, Prince stays clean himself, he wants a woman to also take pride in how she looks. But she wasn't around him 24-7, she went places without him. She found time to go flaunt that body of hers, she could have found time to go to school...had she wanted to. These women had no desire to do anything while with Prince that didn't involve him because they wanted to ride his coattails to success, his current squeeze is included.

[Edited 12/8/10 9:58am]

prodigalfan said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

She was a teen when she met him...not a teen when they got married. She was capable of making her own decisions and did. There are PLENTY of teenage girls that are in relationships now that don't deal with the crap Mayte "claimed" to have had to deal with (or others claim she endured). There are no excuses for any of the women that have been in his life...education or no education. Going to college does not mean you have experience with an older man or have any more wisdom when it comes to a relationship. So why excuse one exwife, but not the other? Both were in their 20s when they married P.

One did not get "taken over" until after college... by that time you have had time to learn and develop your own self. The other was taken over as a 16 year old. She was very impressionable to another 16 year old boy... she didn't have a chance with an older man, rich, dynamic, engaging... etc. etc. All would be fine if he "did her right'... he did her wrong. plain and simple. the fact that she was so young... just exacerbated that wrong.

Tell you what... let your 16 sister meet Prince and become pen pals with him until she is legal then get into a relationship with him until he grows bored and unceremoniously dump her in her late 20s. I'm sure you will appreciate a little cash for your little sister to help her on her way... for her troubles. I'm sure you would not want her to basically go back to the end of the line and be 10 years behind her peers because she wasted precious time playing games.

Don't get me wrong... this happens to a lot of young people... waste their time with some bullshit... but in this case, he has cash to sort of right the apple cart. The very cash used a tool to topple the apple cart. Sorry, I think they deserve some sort of financial compensationl.

[Edited 12/6/10 18:36pm]

What college did you go to? College isn't the place to learn about yourself...not if you want to learn anything good. The fact of the matter is, both married Prince in their 20s. And 17/18 year old young lady that has 6 years to live with a man before marrying him is well capable of making her decisions about what she wants for her life. I suspect that money made it all tolerable...

I still stand by the fact that neither Mayte nor Mani deserved a dime of Prince's money if they didn't contribute to it. I don't care how old they were...if that was a big deal, maybe Mayte ought to go to her parents and ask them to compensate her for contributing to her lost of her younger years. And it isn't like when she and Prince split she was 50, she was in her 20s for GOD's sake. Young enough to make something of herself. The idea that any person should have to PAY someone for being married to them is appalling to me!

Plus, we don't know how their relationship went down..neither of them talk about it, so she could have been a real bitch to Prince!! Who knows? I can honestly say I believed he loved her, but I don't know what happened, I have ideas, but I can't say who did what to who, neither can you. We weren't there. I honestly believed, of all the women Prince has been with, that Mani was the most sincere in her feelings for him. But again, I don't know what happened..

FanOfMusic said:

Eric Benet just announced on the Tom Joyner Morning Show that he and Manuela are engaged. And supposedly Manuela confirmed the engagement when she was emailed on Facebook as to whether it is true.

I haven't heard any response from the woman who claims to be Eric's girlfriend. She's made other claims on being with Eric. But I won't go there.

Cool!! I wish them the best, they are a good looking couple!!

FanOfMusic said:

Eric Benet just announced on the Tom Joyner Morning Show that he and Manuela are engaged. And supposedly Manuela confirmed the engagement when she was emailed on Facebook as to whether it is true.

I haven't heard any response from the woman who claims to be Eric's girlfriend. She's made other claims on being with Eric. But I won't go there.

Wow, they go from being official friends to being officially engaged! But nobody believed they were just friends anyway. They have been with each other for quite some time and look very cute and happy together, so I wish them all the best Hope this thing will last and there won't be a major srew-up.

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[Edited 12/8/10 3:14am]

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

prodigalfan said:

One did not get "taken over" until after college... by that time you have had time to learn and develop your own self. The other was taken over as a 16 year old. She was very impressionable to another 16 year old boy... she didn't have a chance with an older man, rich, dynamic, engaging... etc. etc. All would be fine if he "did her right'... he did her wrong. plain and simple. the fact that she was so young... just exacerbated that wrong.

Tell you what... let your 16 sister meet Prince and become pen pals with him until she is legal then get into a relationship with him until he grows bored and unceremoniously dump her in her late 20s. I'm sure you will appreciate a little cash for your little sister to help her on her way... for her troubles. I'm sure you would not want her to basically go back to the end of the line and be 10 years behind her peers because she wasted precious time playing games.

Don't get me wrong... this happens to a lot of young people... waste their time with some bullshit... but in this case, he has cash to sort of right the apple cart. The very cash used a tool to topple the apple cart. Sorry, I think they deserve some sort of financial compensationl.

[Edited 12/6/10 18:36pm]

What college did you go to? College isn't the place to learn about yourself...not if you want to learn anything good. The fact of the matter is, both married Prince in their 20s. And 17/18 year old young lady that has 6 years to live with a man before marrying him is well capable of making her decisions about what she wants for her life. I suspect that money made it all tolerable...

I still stand by the fact that neither Mayte nor Mani deserved a dime of Prince's money if they didn't contribute to it. I don't care how old they were...if that was a big deal, maybe Mayte ought to go to her parents and ask them to compensate her for contributing to her lost of her younger years. And it isn't like when she and Prince split she was 50, she was in her 20s for GOD's sake. Young enough to make something of herself. The idea that any person should have to PAY someone for being married to them is appalling to me!

Plus, we don't know how their relationship went down..neither of them talk about it, so she could have been a real bitch to Prince!! Who knows? I can honestly say I believed he loved her, but I don't know what happened, I have ideas, but I can't say who did what to who, neither can you. We weren't there. I honestly believed, of all the women Prince has been with, that Mani was the most sincere in her feelings for him. But again, I don't know what happened..

Sorry, we will just have to agree to disagree. I think many people go away to college and this is the first time they are away from their families, traditions, things that are familiar. They meet many different people from different cultures. Mom and dad aren't looking over their shoulders approving or disapproving. I think many people really find who THEY ARE during their years in college. Mayte went from mom and dad's house to Prince's house. You can not compare that to Mani who went from parents house, to college for 4+ years and then moved into her own apartment, got her own job etc.

If you can't see the difference, then....

back on topic.

I was wondering about the ring I saw on Mani's finger. I really wish them the best of luck and if their is a baby on the way, then . Mani seems to really love children... I'm sure she is over the moon.

It's defininately something to read this as a second year college student (and if it's relevant: female).

happyhappy said:

It's defininately something to read this as a second year college student (and if it's relevant: female).

True that... (And Im not even in college yet)

nursev said:

godyssey said:

The first picture of Manuela is the best I've seen her look ever. Although, whomever said she looks like Vanity is blasphemous!

Agreed-but dont mess with Vanity

Right - no one can touch 80s Vanity

happyhappy said:

It's defininately something to read this as a second year college student (and if it's relevant: female).

Well, just because you're in college doesn't mean you magically know more about being in a relationship than a girl that isn't in college. Plenty of women maintain marriages and never go to college, just like plenty of college women fail in marriages. Has nothing to do with experience. Experience in relationships are what count. College educates you and gives you a degree, it doesn't necessarily gives you pointers on a marriage and relationship. So don't feel pressured to have all the answers when you are dating!

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

happyhappy said:

It's defininately something to read this as a second year college student (and if it's relevant: female).

Well, just because you're in college doesn't mean you magically know more about being in a relationship than a girl that isn't in college. Plenty of women maintain marriages and never go to college, just like plenty of college women fail in marriages. Has nothing to do with experience. Experience in relationships are what count. College educates you and gives you a degree, it doesn't necessarily gives you pointers on a marriage and relationship. So don't feel pressured to have all the answers when you are dating!

No I don't, you're right. It's just interesting (IMO) to read other's perceptions of younger women. Some people seemed to imply that a college educated girl should have known better in the circumstance that Prince's one ex was in, and some said otherwise.

[Edited 12/21/10 20:39pm]

happyhappy said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Well, just because you're in college doesn't mean you magically know more about being in a relationship than a girl that isn't in college. Plenty of women maintain marriages and never go to college, just like plenty of college women fail in marriages. Has nothing to do with experience. Experience in relationships are what count. College educates you and gives you a degree, it doesn't necessarily gives you pointers on a marriage and relationship. So don't feel pressured to have all the answers when you are dating!

No I don't, you're right. It's just interesting (IMO) to read other's perceptions of younger women. Some people seemed to imply that a college educated girl should have known better in the circumstance that Prince's one ex was in, and some said otherwise.

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Oh I understand. I guess its like that with alot of things, some folks like to make excuses for others, while other people don't. I don't think a college educated woman should be denied sympathy for being abused/mistreated just because she chose to further her education(and I'm NOT saying Prince abused or mistreated anyone btw!). No do I think a woman should be excused for her own poor choices just because she doesn't have a college degree For me, if you think a man is this or that way, either pity both his wives or don't pity either. I don't pity either, a 23yr old should be held accountable for her choices...just my 2cents.

I don't feel sorry for the none of them., especially mani who stalked her way in. I'm sure they were always free to walk out the door...but when you have luxury and $$$$ waving in front.

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happyhappy said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Well, just because you're in college doesn't mean you magically know more about being in a relationship than a girl that isn't in college. Plenty of women maintain marriages and never go to college, just like plenty of college women fail in marriages. Has nothing to do with experience. Experience in relationships are what count. College educates you and gives you a degree, it doesn't necessarily gives you pointers on a marriage and relationship. So don't feel pressured to have all the answers when you are dating!

No I don't, you're right. It's just interesting (IMO) to read other's perceptions of younger women. Some people seemed to imply that a college educated girl should have known better in the circumstance that Prince's one ex was in, and some said otherwise.

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prodigalfan said:

happyhappy said:

No I don't, you're right. It's just interesting (IMO) to read other's perceptions of younger women. Some people seemed to imply that a college educated girl should have known better in the circumstance that Prince's one ex was in, and some said otherwise.

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I think the point is that a girl in college is in her 20's as opposed to a girl in high school who is 15 or 16. I think leaving home and having to be responsible for your own well being, being responsible to go to class yourself, decide when it is time to go home after a party or whether to go home at all after a party... without curfews or mom and dad checking up on you and the people you choose to hang out with shows maturity. I think that maturity it what people were referring to. Not the education received at college.

Ok, so moving in with a man at 17 is drastically different than moving in with him at 22? Seeing as how we don't know how "involved" the parents were in either situation, we can't just say "well one gets sympathy and the other doesn't because one was mature and the other wasn't." We don't know how mature/immature either girl was. The fact still remains they married Prince at 23.

I think people are just jealous of the lovely Mani, cause she did what a lot of these women WISH they had the chance/guts to do...she went after what she wanted and got it! She wanted her man and she got him! Kudos to her! She and Prince looked great together. I suspect alot of the Mani haters would love the opportunity to get with Prince.

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

prodigalfan said:

I think the point is that a girl in college is in her 20's as opposed to a girl in high school who is 15 or 16. I think leaving home and having to be responsible for your own well being, being responsible to go to class yourself, decide when it is time to go home after a party or whether to go home at all after a party... without curfews or mom and dad checking up on you and the people you choose to hang out with shows maturity. I think that maturity it what people were referring to. Not the education received at college.

Ok, so moving in with a man at 17 is drastically different than moving in with him at 22? Seeing as how we don't know how "involved" the parents were in either situation, we can't just say "well one gets sympathy and the other doesn't because one was mature and the other wasn't." We don't know how mature/immature either girl was. The fact still remains they married Prince at 23.

I think people are just jealous of the lovely Mani, cause she did what a lot of these women WISH they had the chance/guts to do...she went after what she wanted and got it! She wanted her man and she got him! Kudos to her! She and Prince looked great together. I suspect alot of the Mani haters would love the opportunity to get with Prince.

Are you serious?! Of course, there's a difference! Even the law recognizes it - that's why it's illegal to have sex with someone who is under the age of 18. And why, in many states, if the other party is more than two years older than said 17-year-old, there are penalty enhancers for the illegal sexual activity.

Prince knew that. Why do you think there was a big point made (in the cases of Anna and Mayte, most notably) of his not taking their virginity until they turned 18?

You may remove your blinders any time.

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

prodigalfan said:

I think the point is that a girl in college is in her 20's as opposed to a girl in high school who is 15 or 16. I think leaving home and having to be responsible for your own well being, being responsible to go to class yourself, decide when it is time to go home after a party or whether to go home at all after a party... without curfews or mom and dad checking up on you and the people you choose to hang out with shows maturity. I think that maturity it what people were referring to. Not the education received at college.

Ok, so moving in with a man at 17 is drastically different than moving in with him at 22? Seeing as how we don't know how "involved" the parents were in either situation, we can't just say "well one gets sympathy and the other doesn't because one was mature and the other wasn't." We don't know how mature/immature either girl was. The fact still remains they married Prince at 23.

I think people are just jealous of the lovely Mani, cause she did what a lot of these women WISH they had the chance/guts to do...she went after what she wanted and got it! She wanted her man and she got him! Kudos to her! She and Prince looked great together. I suspect alot of the Mani haters would love the opportunity to get with Prince.

1. There's a f-ing HUGE difference between the ages of 17 and 22, yes...and not just in a legal sense. If you're unable to comprehend that or understand the reasons why, explaining it to you is pointless. But it's more clear now why you say the things you do.

2. Get off the "just jealous" thing, seriously. Stupid, overused, and totally shortsighted.