Great observation, but what you wrote makes me think even more that she was in love with Prince the Rock Star, not genuinely Prince the man. Maybe she was impressionable at 22 but to plot and plan and stalk took some brains and guts and she knew what she was doing. As far as the religion, from my understanding, you don't just jump in like that, she studied with him for some time, knew what Prince and the JWs were all about, yet once she breaks up with him she's no longer down with it. I just have a hard time believing she was down with it in the beginning. I give Mani mad props, I wish I was that bold since she's living this dream life so I'm not hatin. She's gorgeous and she and Eric look super happy. I'm just not buying the Mani was so young and innocent and geniune story. Prince used her too and paid the price. I was hoping he learned from it.....then came Bria. oh well.. can't win. [Edited 11/23/10 7:59am] | |
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How do you know she's no longer a JW? | |
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I know for a fact. and i'll leave it at that. [Edited 11/23/10 10:25am] | |
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I liked Mani cause she seemed to be in love with Prince. I mean, she seemed focused on him and not getting her own piece of the fame pie. I think geniuinely, she cared about him and really believed she loved him. And maybe she did, who knows. But I never got from her the whole user-thing. Lots of young girls want to marry their idol, doesn't mean they only want to use them for fame. Some do find the men attractive, etc. The fact that she benefited from it financially is just a bonus of some sorts. I'm guessing she would have liked her marriage to work out...it just didn't, for whatever reasons. Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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didnt she once say that 'marrying prince was a good business opportunity'? thats not an exact quote, but something along those lines. does anyone have that interview? this too shall pass | |
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Wow, I never heard Tamar's CD. So I didn't know the line.
I think Prince is being a little cruel. I think he loved Manuela as much as the others for a period of time. Otherwise, he would not have married the girl in Hawaii.
Of course, he has never really loved anyone the "right" way. I don't think he can unselfishly love anyone... it is not in his character to be that open. But not many people really do. Most of us gives an honest try. I don't think Prince gives it an honest try all the time.
I think he really tried with Manuela, (because he was trying so hard to be a good JW) and with Mayte (because it was that stage in life in which he WANTED to settle down and start a family.) He did the Muppet show during this time for God's sake... and built a nursery in Paisley Park. He wanted the whole wife and family. Was in love with the idea of love and family. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Agreed with everything here. Mani was a 22 love sick girl who was pretty enough and ambitious enough to snag her idol.
If I had my way... I would have been Mrs. Johnnie Wilder Jr. Except there was already a Mrs.
But that did not stop Mani. I guess it takes some ruthlessness and boldness.
Okay, I am going to stop there. This thread is to show love for Mani and Eric. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Right, I think she was in love with the rock star and protectively loved the man once the mask slipped and she saw the real Prince. But he wont' slow down with the chicks on the side... and I think as time went on she grew tired of it.
it is one thing to conform to a "prince woman" type when the man is satisfying whatever you need, love affection, emotional securtiy etc. But when you are making sacrifices on your own character, integrity, family ties etc for the man, AND HE IS LYING TO YOU AND CHEATING... well as you grow older, I think you just grow tired of it.
The fact that she got some financial gains from the marriage... well she should. He hooks up with these late teen women and sucks up all their youth (late teens and 20s) then tosses them as they approach 30. They should be compensated for that decade of life that they spent with him. Sorry, but I just believe if Prince wants to play, then he should pay. not just Prince... any man or woman. 'Cause at 40 something... Prince KNOWS the game... at 22, Mani (Mayte, Anna Fantastic, Nona Gaye) did not. He had an unfair advantage. And he used the promise of comfort that his money and fame can provide. They should at least get a helping hand as he is showing them the door.
Every one of those beautiful women could have married a successful younger man from their hometown that would have been more sincere in marriage and starting a family. A relationship with some staying power. But they wasted their youth and time on Prince's bullshit love game. I don't think they should just be dropped back off at the high school door that they were picked up 10 -12 years ago, but now 30 years old and the anchor title as "Prince's EX wife" without $OMETHING for all their trouble and heartache.
I for one, am glad to see Prince interested in 30 something women. Better than meeting a 16 year old... "waiting until she is 18" and then pouncing on her naive, inexperienced then ditching her when she gets a little age and independence in her.
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am I the only one not liking how Freddie Jackosn looks like a bobble head in these pics? LOVE HARD. | |
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Interesting points. Time for Prince to get with a mature woman, who will love him for who he is as a person and is willing call him out and tell him NO regardless of the fame and money they will lose from doing so! | |
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I doubt that will happen. Seems he likes to be in control of everything surrounding his life. He seems to get bored with his relationships after about 5 years. There is NO NEED for him to marry at age 52. Pretty man isn't having anymore babies and he doesn't need a wife to qualify his existence. Leave him alone. | |
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damn your right but in case his heart still yearns for The One.................... | |
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Prince and Manuela = old news Eric and Manuela = new hotness | |
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Evvy said: am I the only one not liking how Freddie Jackosn looks like a bobble head in these pics? I thought that was him. Boy has he lost weight! "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Wow, this thread has gone in a totally different direction!
Personally.... Okay. We ALL know who Prince is and how he operates with women. I don't think that ANY woman (I'm stressing WOMAN, so this would exclude Mayte who was only a teenager when they got together) whom he dates or marries, deserves a dime. Again. For decades, we've known who he is and what he's about. Deal with it or leave him alone. I'm not buying this innocence stuff, especially when one was college educated. She was no fool. And I actually like her! I just believe that the idea of spousal support is so archaic.
And isn't Eric getting spousal "support" too???? They're like two, extremely capable, welfare recipients throwing it in the faces of their exes. Maybe that's thier deal? [Edited 11/25/10 0:00am] | |
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You do have a point there. And the way she pursued him, across 2 countries! (I know I am making it sound so dramatic... but it was 2 countries. Right?? )
I guess I will have to rethink this about Mani. And I also observed that both were thriving on spousal support.
What can one say? It is what it is.
I have to say, since Halle and Prince are both twice divorced and paying spousal support, they should not get married again... or at least marry each other. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Manuela looks absolutely stunning!! Her dress and hair are simply gorgeous. | |
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WHO CARES? WHAT THE HELL IS SHE DOING? JUST GOING FROM SINGER TO SINGER? WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THAT? IF IT WEREN'T FOR PRINCE I WOULDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MANUELA TO BE HONEST. | |
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1) I'm reading your comments about him within this context.
2) You're wrong. EB very often has some serious musicians cropping up on his projects. He's been around in R&B for a good while, even had a duo with his sister (they performed under "Benet") before he went solo. One of my former bandmates and music buds loves EB's work as much for its production as he does for EB's singing.
3) Very wise comment. Non-talent-related factors (everything from timing, luck, connections and a willingness to screw people over) could place two similarly talented performers in totally different strata.
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The song sounds like an excellent Prince imitation to me - the style is so Prince. Wonder if Eric is getting a dig in there? Love Eric Benet. Saw him live and he's hot! -Silk | |
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She looks so hot...I want her...lol I never thought her & Eric would be together this long. Its going on 5 years now..... [Edited 11/30/10 16:40pm] will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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Oh my damn!!! Now that just made me laugh. Welfare recipients!!! | |
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I don't think spousal support is unending. Generally, in marriages less than 5 years the court will only order support for half the length of the marriage. That's without a prenup. A prenup would probably specify the max amount the (ex)spouse can receive. Once they get the speified settlement amount they can't get anymore. PaisleyRose was here | |
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I never ever bought a Prince album in the 80"s because he was famous and I thought "well it's all going to be pop stuff meant for radio" why waste my money when the best of it is probably on the radio ! I ALWAYS bought the people who maybe had one single but alot of interesting stuff that was not radio friendly. I had absolutely no idea for nearly 30 years, the scope of Prince's music. I am glad that Eric has his fans. I can only buy about one fourth of what I would loooove to own, there is no room for maybes in my tiny apartment. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Why are you getting so bent out of shape over a simple comparison? You act like somebody just stole your bike | |
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for realz!
I think Eric fine as wine and would love to take a sip. I hope he and Mani make a baby together. | |
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You're missing one key element...these WOMEN (all were well over the age of 18) had free will. They choose to be with Prince and conform to his way...I have NO sympathy for them. Non of them were complaining when they were spending his millions now were they? And they all knew well in advance how Prince thought a woman should be. If they didn't like it, they should have not used him for his cash and found them one of those "young, successful men." Prince deserves better than that too.
We don't know if any of these women really loved him, they could have put on a great front for the cameras and made him look like the bad guy. All this "woe is me, Prince made me wear his clothes, he starved me, he controlled me, blah, blah, blah." Give me a effing break! They sure didn't mind it when he was dropping millions to get their non-talented asses a album recorded now were they?
Age has nothing to do with it, they were mature enough to work their way into his bed, they should have been mature enough to deal with the complications that came along with it.
And no, unless they contributed to his success, they don't deserve a damn bit of his money...unless they had kids with him, which they didn't. I hope he had a pre-nup!!
Any young lady married to a rich older man has the full ability to go to college and make something of herself while married to this man since they don't have to worry about money. There are no excuses. None.
If all they were were gold digging tramps, then yeah, he should have dropped their asses back off in the gutter they came from. The key word being IF... Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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She was a teen when she met him...not a teen when they got married. She was capable of making her own decisions and did. There are PLENTY of teenage girls that are in relationships now that don't deal with the crap Mayte "claimed" to have had to deal with (or others claim she endured). There are no excuses for any of the women that have been in his life...education or no education. Going to college does not mean you have experience with an older man or have any more wisdom when it comes to a relationship. So why excuse one exwife, but not the other? Both were in their 20s when they married P. Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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One thing is that not all woman see womanizing as the end of the world. Jackie O went into both her marriages knowing that her men were filthy rich and skirt chasers. She was raised to think that all men cheat and she picked the best of the cheaters I guess. I don't know how these women were raised. Mayte said her parents sent her to live at Paisley at 17 because they trusted him. Either they are fools or they were more worried about there little Star Search Contestant's career then they were about her heart or anything else. Different people have different values. Many of Prince's woman have a sort of "don't ask, don't tell" way of dealing with his ways from what I can see. It's when he gets so very blatant about it that he has the wife in another place while he is running around LA with his new coochie that they scream uncle. I mean he writes songs for his playthings that make it clear he is cheating on his wife. If you stay after that point you clearly have an open relationship.
Neither of those wives were blind and both knew all about his past. When a woman in her 20's lies to herself and believes he will be different with her, well I am a bit sympathetic. But no way in hell do I have sympathy for a woman over 30 that marries a blatant skirt chaser and then gets all crazy when there is talk of someone else. Prince always has at least 3 women, never 1 and seldom 2 for long. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Mmm ... I've never thought to highly of Manuela since Mayte and P broke up.
Things that have you say 'Hmm', the woman is very pretty though ... Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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