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Thread started 10/27/10 4:56pm

thebanishedone

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Bobby Z had influence on Prince as much as Wendy and Lisa

I know that the title of the thread sounds crazy but i'll state my facts

and it's just my opinion.

Orgers often diss Bobby ,some say he isn't a good drummer which is not true.

Wendy and Lisa brought susspended chords and some unique sound textures.

Bobby gave a bottom to Prince's music.

On the late Controversy tour Prince started using

drum machines and electronic drums.

Listen to the latter Controvery tour dates you will

notice addition of drum machines.

One rehearsal day Bobby Z came to the rehearsal

and there was a drum machine.

Prince told Bobby to see what he can do with drum machine.

Bobby started working and experimenting with

drum machine sounds

maybe along with his brother David Rivkin

and it influenced

the way Prince started to program drum machine on his records.

Also on the live shows it was Bobby who was managing all the

drum machine sounds in combination

with live drumming.

He was having the hardest task because

at those days it wasn't

easy to incorporate drum machines with bigger sucess

because of the potencial mistakes in a live setting

So Wendy and Lisa gave a melodic harmonic content and

Bobby gave the rhythmic part of the music.

[Edited 10/27/10 16:58pm]

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Reply #1 posted 10/27/10 5:42pm

Spinlight

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thebanishedone said:

I know that the title of the thread sounds crazy but i'll state my facts

and it's just my opinion.

eek

umm...

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Reply #2 posted 10/27/10 6:27pm

jimmyrogertodd

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Spinlight said:

thebanishedone said:

I know that the title of the thread sounds crazy but i'll state my facts

and it's just my opinion.

eek

umm...

Lol. Are you kidding us???

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Reply #3 posted 10/27/10 7:09pm

thebanishedone

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No i don't

Only if you think that Wendy and Lisa are

groundbreaking musicians

who contributed to Prince's

music so much that he

would be the star he was meant to be.

Those two girls added a few chords like every

other band members did.

Do you know how big impact

Rhonda Smith had on Prince .

He changed his bass style to a more suptile and

sophisticated(check bass solo on Everywhere)

Every musician who was with Prince

added something to his music.

Bobby had much bigger influence on the beats of the songs.

Bobby worked with Prince on making

some of those trade mark linn drum

that made his sound so characteristic.

Wendy was there for only three years.

Bobby was there for almost 10 years (1978-1986)

What was the first thing you noticed in

songs from golden Prince era

Susspend chords?

maybe in Purple Rain but it was the beats

created by Prince and influencd by Bobby ,

maybe he did have participation

in the actual programing of the songs in studio.

I know that Bobby programmed all the stuff for live shows.

In a big way Bobby Z influenced Minneapolis

sound ,Matt Fink also

song Dirty Mind,those classic synth lynes are Matts composition.

Without Wendy and Lisa you maybe wouldn't have Paradish sounds

they brought

but

without Bobby Minneapolis sound of Prince maybe wouldn't be the same.

That guy gets much less credits then he deservse to.

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Reply #4 posted 10/27/10 8:14pm

minneapolisFun
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It was always easy to score big with drum machines in the 80s

You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #5 posted 10/27/10 9:07pm

StonedImmacula
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I feel you 100%.

That's why P kept Bobby on the payroll for years after the Revolution broke up.

blunt music She has robes and she has monkeys, lazy diamond studded flunkies.... music blunt
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Reply #6 posted 10/28/10 6:33am

sms130

Bobby Z is that dude and I do agree with that he had a influence on Prince as much as Wendy and Lisa. If I recalled, Bobby was the one who introduced Prince 2 the Linn Drum machine. The Revolution was a strong influence on Prince. Bobby, Lisa, Wendy, Matt, Dez, Mark, etc. all had an influence on Prince, the artist.

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Reply #7 posted 10/31/10 4:58am

vitriol

As you said, this is just your OPINION. Not back by any kind of actual facts.

And I strongly disagree.

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