KCOOLMUZIQ said:

motherfunka said:

I was there too, and totally agree she is beautiful. It was cool they were all signing autographs. I have to say I was totally bummed to find out that Morris was replacing Rosie. I didn't think Carmen's rapping was all that bad. I loved Everybody Get On Up, an obvious spin off of Cream musically. I find it kind of funny how a lot of people seem to think Mayte was the main deal from 91 on, but Carmen was with Prince often at Glam Slam. Mayte was never there with Prince, only with Carmen or Jamie King.

I used to see Carmen dancing all the time @ Glam Slam here in LA in a troupe. Seems like Prince put a lot of time into her. What a lot of people are not saying in this thread is Carmen did eventually become a star. Prince rarely gets credit for that.

Sorry. I had to...

In FHM 1997, Carmen spoke of the nameless woman (Robin Power) who introduced her to Prince and her audition:

I'd been there (in L.A) for a week, when I went to this club called Spice, where I was approached by a woman who said she had an all-girl band that Prince was producing and I had the look that they were after....finally a blue BMW pulled up and Prince's brother was driving. We ended up going to Prince's house in L.A. And he was really nice but kinda quiet. Basically I auditioned for him right there in front of him at around 2 am. He played piano and I sang.....It was Do Re MI from the Sound of music with Prince playing the piano. I was once in the SOM musical, so I knew the song. And then I danced. Now the whole time he's sitting there, he's just watching me with no expression on his face. So there I am, dancing my butt off, doing the Booty Shake and everything - ha ha - and he still has no expression, so I'm thinking "He thinks I suck. I've gotte take some more classes". So I go home and don't hear a thing for two months. Then the woman called me and said she couldn't explain what went wrong. So I got in touch with Prince's bodyguard because I'd recorded some demos on my own that I wasn't really happy with and I thought it would be great if Prince would help me out. I finally got a call ages later, at around 4 am, and it was him. He said "I wrote a song for you. If you like it, you can sing it." It was called "Carmen On Top" and I loved it. The catch was that I had to go to Minneapolis to record it. So I ended up living there for 2 ½ years.

^ Interesting. Thanks for posting that.

Virgo said:

In FHM 1997, Carmen spoke of the nameless woman (Robin Power) who introduced her to Prince and her audition:

I'd been there (in L.A) for a week, when I went to this club called Spice, where I was approached by a woman who said she had an all-girl band that Prince was producing and I had the look that they were after....finally a blue BMW pulled up and Prince's brother was driving. We ended up going to Prince's house in L.A. And he was really nice but kinda quiet. Basically I auditioned for him right there in front of him at around 2 am. He played piano and I sang.....It was Do Re MI from the Sound of music with Prince playing the piano. I was once in the SOM musical, so I knew the song. And then I danced. Now the whole time he's sitting there, he's just watching me with no expression on his face. So there I am, dancing my butt off, doing the Booty Shake and everything - ha ha - and he still has no expression, so I'm thinking "He thinks I suck. I've gotte take some more classes". So I go home and don't hear a thing for two months. Then the woman called me and said she couldn't explain what went wrong. So I got in touch with Prince's bodyguard because I'd recorded some demos on my own that I wasn't really happy with and I thought it would be great if Prince would help me out. I finally got a call ages later, at around 4 am, and it was him. He said "I wrote a song for you. If you like it, you can sing it." It was called "Carmen On Top" and I loved it. The catch was that I had to go to Minneapolis to record it. So I ended up living there for 2 ½ years.

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during that audition.

Carmen sings Do Re Mi, classic.

squirrelgrease said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I used to see Carmen dancing all the time @ Glam Slam here in LA in a troupe. Seems like Prince put a lot of time into her. What a lot of people are not saying in this thread is Carmen did eventually become a star. Prince rarely gets credit for that.

Sorry. I had to...

Did Carmen ever confirm fucking Prince or not?

squirrelgrease said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I used to see Carmen dancing all the time @ Glam Slam here in LA in a troupe. Seems like Prince put a lot of time into her. What a lot of people are not saying in this thread is Carmen did eventually become a star. Prince rarely gets credit for that.

Sorry. I had to...

Ur wrong 4 that.... lol..........l

squirrelgrease said:

motherfunka said:

I still have that poster she signed at the convention and the rest of the NPG signed another poster as well. They were all really cool.

Diana80 said:

squirrelgrease said:

Sorry. I had to...

Did Carmen ever confirm fucking Prince or not?

She confirms it in that clip.

The album isn't very good but I do like the song "Fantasia Erotica".

I'm sure Robin had other things in mind when she picked Carmen at the club. Which led Carmen to "perform" for Prince at his LA mansion. Little did she know she would get replaced in the process. I like how Prince made Carmen think he wasn't interested in her at all & made her wait 4ever. Then gave her an ultimatum to accept his "offer" months later. He is a master at controling women...I'm sure those studio sessions was very hot & steamy.

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I'm sure Robin had other things in mind when she picked Carmen at the club. Which led Carmen to "perform" for Prince at his LA mansion. Little did she know she would get replaced in the process. I like how Prince made Carmen think he wasn't interested in her at all & made her wait 4ever. Then gave her an ultimatum to accept his "offer" months later. He is a master at controling women...I'm sure those studio sessions was very hot & steamy. To me the only women that benefited from Prince being in a relationship with him & became very successful under his guidance was Sheila E & Vanity. Them both opening there legs became a good decision for them.

Not so sure it happened that way with Sheila E!

motherfunka said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I'm sure Robin had other things in mind when she picked Carmen at the club. Which led Carmen to "perform" for Prince at his LA mansion. Little did she know she would get replaced in the process. I like how Prince made Carmen think he wasn't interested in her at all & made her wait 4ever. Then gave her an ultimatum to accept his "offer" months later. He is a master at controling women...I'm sure those studio sessions was very hot & steamy.

Not so sure it happened that way with Sheila E!

[Edited 9/20/10 17:32pm]

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

motherfunka said:

Not so sure it happened that way with Sheila E!

Maybe not in the beginning.

Hey. Sheila deserves a little more respect.

Dred said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Maybe not in the beginning.

Hey. Sheila deserves a little more respect.

Sheila deserves a lot more respect! She is a musician in her own right and has established a career past Prince. She is also a very classy lady and one of the few of his "proteges" to still remain friends with him and actually still performs with him occasionally. She was with him when Prince dropped in at Stevie Wonder's recent concert in Europe.

purplethunder3121 said:

Dred said:

Hey. Sheila deserves a little more respect.

Sheila deserves a lot more respect! She is a musician in her own right and has established a career past Prince. She is also a very classy lady and one of the few of his "proteges" to still remain friends with him and actually still performs with him occasionally. She was with him when Prince dropped in at Stevie Wonder's recent concert in Europe.

She is a very classy & talented lady I'm not taking away from her talent. But she did admit to having a relationship with Prince in the past. I have seen her perform many many times and I am a fan of hers & have met her, I apologize for painting her in that way...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Sheila deserves a lot more respect! She is a musician in her own right and has established a career past Prince. She is also a very classy lady and one of the few of his "proteges" to still remain friends with him and actually still performs with him occasionally. She was with him when Prince dropped in at Stevie Wonder's recent concert in Europe.

She is a very classy & talented lady I'm not taking away from her talent. But she did admit to having a relationship with Prince in the past. I have seen her perform many many times and I am a fan of hers & have met her, I apologize for painting her in that way...

An apology on a message board!!?? I'm stunned. GOOD FOR YOU.

Dred said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

She is a very classy & talented lady I'm not taking away from her talent. But she did admit to having a relationship with Prince in the past. I have seen her perform many many times and I am a fan of hers & have met her, I apologize for painting her in that way...

An apology on a message board!!?? I'm stunned. GOOD FOR YOU.

[Edited 9/20/10 18:35pm]

Dred said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

She is a very classy & talented lady I'm not taking away from her talent. But she did admit to having a relationship with Prince in the past. I have seen her perform many many times and I am a fan of hers & have met her, I apologize for painting her in that way...

An apology on a message board!!?? I'm stunned. GOOD FOR YOU.

TheResistor said:

squirrelgrease said:

I was at the Controversy Magazine convention at Glam Slam where Carmen was for the most part debuted (as well as the Symbol album), and all I can say is that she was one of the most stunningly beautiful women I'd ever seen.

The DJ gave some of us this Carmen promo vinyl EP:

[img:$uid]http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n276/squirrelgrease/PrinceProducts-4/ShhhhGoGoDancer-1.jpg[/img:$uid]

Hey I was at that convention too. Wasn't Carmen hanging out with Mayte that day too. When was that 92? I had completely forgotten about that. She signed one of her photos for me. And yes she was stunningly beautiful.

I just found this on my hard drive...

[img:$uid]http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac268/squirrelgrease2009/VOXJuly1992_05.jpg[/img:$uid]

squirrelgrease said:

Diana80 said:

Did Carmen ever confirm fucking Prince or not?

She confirms it in that clip.

Well, I know she says that she fucked him in the clip, but was that just a joke for the movie or the truth? Because I don't ever remember her confirming it in real life.

WB was mad and Prince too after wasted money for her CD ...what happened to next between Carmen/Prince/WB?

the music on the album is tight and all and when the album 1st came out, i liked carmen's rapping style but that's since changed lol ..i still like step 2 the mic, fun, just a little loving, and even fantasia erotica up until she says "ohh speak american? no speak carmenese"

interesting that i had gone to glam slam club in mpls in september 93 and at the time the talk was about Glam Slam Ullyses. I had tlked to a employee that worked in the gift shop, very nice lady, and we were talking about the possibilites of GSU coming 2 mpls, and she didn't think that it would. I asked her about carmen and 2 this day i remember what she had said, "I am sorry and I hate to say this about anyone but, carmen is a real bitch! She goes around thinking everyone should bow down 2 her"

some have asked in here if carmen ever admited to being with prince and the answer is, YES she has. There was a special on VH1 about carmen and her career, and one shocking point was that she was at the time or maybe still who knows, but she was living right next door to appolonia. Carmen and her friends that new her also interjected on how Prince would have Carmen "on call" so she would go 2 bed in full makeup only to never get 2 go out with prince or when he did show up he would get mad if she wasn't all dolled up for him at 4 am in the morning.

when carmen was on howard stern she also admitted to having a relationship with prince.

the remix of eye hate u is "supposidly" a open letter to carmen and when he says "speaking of which u owe me, u owe me about a million eight or more" this has been pointed out about the marketing money invested into carmne's album.

but hey kudos for her 2 keep going on after being associated with prince

Diana80 said:

squirrelgrease said:

She confirms it in that clip.

Well, I know she says that she fucked him in the clip, but was that just a joke for the movie or the truth? Because I don't ever remember her confirming it in real life.

C'mon. This is Prince we're talking about. It's probably safe to assume his dick never got a chance to dry off back in the day.

squirrelgrease said:

Diana80 said:

Well, I know she says that she fucked him in the clip, but was that just a joke for the movie or the truth? Because I don't ever remember her confirming it in real life.

C'mon. This is Prince we're talking about. It's probably safe to assume his dick never got a chance to dry off back in the day.

If Prince took the time to fly her to live in Minny 4 two years i'm sure he tapped that ass....

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

squirrelgrease said:

C'mon. This is Prince we're talking about. It's probably safe to assume his dick never got a chance to dry off back in the day.

If Prince took the time to fly her to live in Minny 4 two years i'm sure he tapped that ass....

She confirmed the tapping of her ass on her E True Hollywood story.

And that album is GARBAGE!!! I will admit that I have never really given the music a chance, seeing as her vocals are so utterly bad. Maybe Ill give it a listen to check the musical quality, but oh was that shit corny.

Interesting thread though. Love hearing how they met, etc.

LaAmi said:

WB was mad and Prince too after they wasted money for her CD ...what happened next between Carmen/Prince/WB?

The failure of her album is one reason why Warners shut down Paisley Park Records in early 1994.They spent a fortune promoting her album ($2 million) and it flopped big time.

SoulAlive said:

LaAmi said:

WB was mad and Prince too after they wasted money for her CD ...what happened next between Carmen/Prince/WB?

The failure of her album is one reason why Warners shut down Paisley Park Records in early 1994.They spent a fortune promoting her album ($2 million) and it flopped big time.

There was a big promotional push when the first single was released, promo ads were published in the press, the video for "Go Go Dancer" was sent to tv, and promo ads for the album were shown on MTV, showing that the album was to be release in July of 1992. Warners did indeed spend close on $2 million on promotion, but half of that money came out of the pocket of Paisley Park. When the album was released almost half a year later, Warners had cooled on the album by a large degree, and promotion was down to a bare minimum.

MikeyB71 said:

SoulAlive said:

The failure of her album is one reason why Warners shut down Paisley Park Records in early 1994.They spent a fortune promoting her album ($2 million) and it flopped big time.

There was a big promotional push when the first single was released, promo ads were published in the press, the video for "Go Go Dancer" was sent to tv, and promo ads for the album were shown on MTV, showing that the album was to be release in July of 1992. Warners did indeed spend close on $2 million on promotion, but half of that money came out of the pocket of Paisley Park. When the album was released almost half a year later, Warners had cooled on the album by a large degree, and promotion was down to a bare minimum.

Prince waste a lot of money on mediocre talent. Even though she was beautiful as hell & did eventually make it big...