of course most people are just too deaf to understand that the bria valente-album is an absolute masterpiece.

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I actually think it's a good effort-awaiting Bria haters

What's the weather like this time of year in Bizarro world?

Alright, serious response (assuming the OP is serious in his/her post) I would never and could never call Bria's album a masterpiece...but it isn't completely terrible, and I thought a couple songs were good, particularly Everytime.

people don't even take the time to really sit down and listen to it. swallowed up by prejudices.

RubyButterfly said:

What's the weather like this time of year in Bizarro world?

didn't take long at all

vitalbacon said:

people don't even take the time to really sit down and listen to it. swallowed up by prejudices.

True-people will hate Bria just for one thing-CUZ SHE HAS/GOT PRINCE! The lady's voice is actually pretty-the cd sounds nice.

nursev said:

RubyButterfly said:

What's the weather like this time of year in Bizarro world?

didn't take long at all

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week! Try the fish!

(I did post a serious answer though too ...)

RubyButterfly said:

nursev said:

didn't take long at all

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week! Try the fish!

(I did post a serious answer though too ...)

Noted

nursev said:

vitalbacon said:

people don't even take the time to really sit down and listen to it. swallowed up by prejudices.

True-people will hate Bria just for one thing-CUZ SHE HAS/GOT PRINCE! The lady's voice is actually pretty-the cd sounds nice.

Really? The one reason people can have for not caring for Bria - to whatever degree or for whatever reason - is because she's with Prince? You honestly believe that, really?

I know it's already been stated a billion times before, and better, on a billion previous threads but heck, I'll repeat it: I think it's a little unfair to say people will 'hate' on Bria only because she has Prince. I'm not a Bria fan, and I think she is a sub-par "talent", but my opinion is hardly because I'm JELLUS or because I want to be with Prince.

You're painting with a pretty broad brush there, nursev.

[Edited 6/4/10 17:08pm]

nursev said:

RubyButterfly said:

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week! Try the fish!

(I did post a serious answer though too ...)

Noted

I like Bria song Tonight thats no lie because we supose to be studing or replying to Prince music not cybe bulling. Leave that up with some teenagers:-o

RubyButterfly said:

nursev said:

True-people will hate Bria just for one thing-CUZ SHE HAS/GOT PRINCE! The lady's voice is actually pretty-the cd sounds nice.

Really? The one reason people can have for not caring for Bria - to whatever degree or for whatever reason - is because she's with Prince? You honestly believe that, really?

I know it's already been stated a billion times before, and better, on a billion previous threads but heck, I'll repeat it: I think it's a little unfair to say people will 'hate' on Bria only because she has Prince. I'm not a Bria fan, and I think she is a sub-par "talent", but my opinion is hardly because I'm JELLUS or because I want to be with Prince.

You're painting with a pretty broad brush there, nursev.

[Edited 6/4/10 17:08pm]

May be a big ass brush, but it's true Folks on here eventually find fault with whoever Prince is with and yes I give it a few more minutes and some men who want him will be in here bashing Bria too I like the lady-she seems to be a nice person and from the outside looking in she seems to make Prince happy. Another Boy is my song and the cd is nice-Like it or not

godswill said:

nursev said:

Noted

I like Bria song Tonight thats no lie because we supose to be studing or replying to Prince music not cybe bulling. Leave that up with some teenagers:-o

Who is bullying? You like the cd or not? I think the OP started a nice thread, but it will be torn to shreads-trust me

nursev said:

RubyButterfly said:

Really? The one reason people can have for not caring for Bria - to whatever degree or for whatever reason - is because she's with Prince? You honestly believe that, really?

I know it's already been stated a billion times before, and better, on a billion previous threads but heck, I'll repeat it: I think it's a little unfair to say people will 'hate' on Bria only because she has Prince. I'm not a Bria fan, and I think she is a sub-par "talent", but my opinion is hardly because I'm JELLUS or because I want to be with Prince.

You're painting with a pretty broad brush there, nursev.

[Edited 6/4/10 17:08pm]

May be a big ass brush, but it's true Folks on here eventually find fault with whoever Prince is with and yes I give it a few more minutes and some men who want him will be in here bashing Bria too I like the lady-she seems to be a nice person and from the outside looking in she seems to make Prince happy. Another Boy is my song and the cd is nice-Like it or not

But it ISN'T true.

I agree that whatever woman Prince is associated with romantically at any time is going to be raked over the coals to some degree, and that a significant percentage of that behavior can be attributed to some form of jealousy...but come on - not 100% of the disparaging remarks made about Bria are based in that emotion, and you really discredit your own argument by making such a ridiculous assertion.

I'm glad you enjoy Bria's album and, like I said in my serious response, I don't think it's a horrible album either. I just don't think it's an "absolute masterpiece" or even great. And if you are honest you will have to admit that there are a number of valid reasons behind certain shots taken at Bria, or to not feel she deserves raves about what an amazing addition she is to the musical world.

Here's my unfair assertion: I think everyone who likes Bria and fawns over her CD and her in general is nothing but a buttkisser hoping to suck up to Bria, to Prince, or to whoever and that Prince could start dating Roseanne Barr and suddenly those same people would become Roseanne Barr fans and write extensive posts praising her beauty and singing talent. Get my point?

RubyButterfly said:

nursev said:

May be a big ass brush, but it's true Folks on here eventually find fault with whoever Prince is with and yes I give it a few more minutes and some men who want him will be in here bashing Bria too I like the lady-she seems to be a nice person and from the outside looking in she seems to make Prince happy. Another Boy is my song and the cd is nice-Like it or not

But it ISN'T true.

I agree that whatever woman Prince is associated with romantically at any time is going to be raked over the coals to some degree, and that a significant percentage of that behavior can be attributed to some form of jealousy...but come on - not 100% of the disparaging remarks made about Bria are based in that emotion, and you really discredit your own argument by making such a ridiculous assertion.

I'm glad you enjoy Bria's album and, like I said in my serious response, I don't think it's a horrible album either. I just don't think it's an "absolute masterpiece" or even great. And if you are honest you will have to admit that there are a number of valid reasons behind certain shots taken at Bria, or to not feel she deserves raves about what an amazing addition she is to the musical world.

Here's my unfair assertion: I think everyone who likes Bria and fawns over her CD and her in general is nothing but a buttkisser hoping to suck up to Bria, to Prince, or to whoever and that Prince could start dating Roseanne Barr and suddenly those same people would become Roseanne Barr fans and write extensive posts praising her beauty and singing talent. Get my point?

Come on Ruby! How long have you been on the Org? You've seen these folks hate on everything from Prince's hair to the bottom of his shoes So whatever woman he is dating is no exception and yes I honestly think folks on here hate on Bria for that sole reason. They did it to Tamar also and who even knew if Prince was actually doing his thing with her Folks on here drag these poor women through the mud just for the satisfaction of making Prince look bad (except Mani-she is another thread ). What has Bria done to cause all this hate? Yeah the stories about her friends leaking info pop up every now and then, but seriously where did all this hatred for this lady come from?

I'm still waiting for Tamar's album.

And wasn't Shelby J supposed to have one released too? Or was that Marva King?

nursev said:

RubyButterfly said:

But it ISN'T true.

I agree that whatever woman Prince is associated with romantically at any time is going to be raked over the coals to some degree, and that a significant percentage of that behavior can be attributed to some form of jealousy...but come on - not 100% of the disparaging remarks made about Bria are based in that emotion, and you really discredit your own argument by making such a ridiculous assertion.

I'm glad you enjoy Bria's album and, like I said in my serious response, I don't think it's a horrible album either. I just don't think it's an "absolute masterpiece" or even great. And if you are honest you will have to admit that there are a number of valid reasons behind certain shots taken at Bria, or to not feel she deserves raves about what an amazing addition she is to the musical world.

Here's my unfair assertion: I think everyone who likes Bria and fawns over her CD and her in general is nothing but a buttkisser hoping to suck up to Bria, to Prince, or to whoever and that Prince could start dating Roseanne Barr and suddenly those same people would become Roseanne Barr fans and write extensive posts praising her beauty and singing talent. Get my point?

Come on Ruby! How long have you been on the Org? You've seen these folks hate on everything from Prince's hair to the bottom of his shoes So whatever woman he is dating is no exception and yes I honestly think folks on here hate on Bria for that sole reason. They did it to Tamar also and who even knew if Prince was actually doing his thing with her Folks on here drag these poor women through the mud just for the satisfaction of making Prince look bad (except Mani-she is another thread ). What has Bria done to cause all this hate? Yeah the stories about her friends leaking info pop up every now and then, but seriously where did all this hatred for this lady come from?

I have been coming to the org for at least 9 years and I've been a Prince fan since the early 80s. I know full well about the pettiness and immature attacks taken against the women in Prince's life. I'm not arguing with you that that happens...it does.

I think I need some clarification from you about your stance in this little discussion, though: you say that EVERY opinion about Bria that is anything but praise and adoration and all things positive stems from "jealousy" and is "hate"..is that correct? Or are there levels of 'negative' opinions about her which aren't extreme enough to merit the "jealousy" label. Like me, for instance- I think her album is okay, but nothing spectacular or outstanding. My opinion is that the album is mostly tolerable due to Prince's hand, and not because I think Bria is a massive talent. I think it's weird she was touted as the next Sade and hyped too much before her CD came out in light of the fact that she never even performed one song live, even once (not to mention she's HARDLY the next Sade...). As for her looks, well, I won't pick them apart in detail so I'll just say I don't consider her any better than a million other forgettable models out there, and she's in the very low rank when I compare her to previous women Prince has been with.

So, by your standards, do you believe that the "sole reason" behind my opinions stated above is I'm jealous of Bria and am angry she's with Prince?

Finally, I'd like to make clear at this point that, for me, this debate/discussion is more about unfairly dismissing and discounting reasonable opinions of a less-than-fawny or positive nature any why that is wrong and smallminded than it is about Bria herself.

RubyButterfly said:

nursev said:

Come on Ruby! How long have you been on the Org? You've seen these folks hate on everything from Prince's hair to the bottom of his shoes So whatever woman he is dating is no exception and yes I honestly think folks on here hate on Bria for that sole reason. They did it to Tamar also and who even knew if Prince was actually doing his thing with her Folks on here drag these poor women through the mud just for the satisfaction of making Prince look bad (except Mani-she is another thread ). What has Bria done to cause all this hate? Yeah the stories about her friends leaking info pop up every now and then, but seriously where did all this hatred for this lady come from?

I have been coming to the org for at least 9 years and I've been a Prince fan since the early 80s. I know full well about the pettiness and immature attacks taken against the women in Prince's life. I'm not arguing with you that that happens...it does.

I think I need some clarification from you about your stance in this little discussion, though: you say that EVERY opinion about Bria that is anything but praise and adoration and all things positive stems from "jealousy" and is "hate"..is that correct? Or are there levels of 'negative' opinions about her which aren't extreme enough to merit the "jealousy" label. Like me, for instance- I think her album is okay, but nothing spectacular or outstanding. My opinion is that the album is mostly tolerable due to Prince's hand, and not because I think Bria is a massive talent. I think it's weird she was touted as the next Sade and hyped too much before her CD came out in light of the fact that she never even performed one song live, even once (not to mention she's HARDLY the next Sade...). As for her looks, well, I won't pick them apart in detail so I'll just say I don't consider her any better than a million other forgettable models out there, and she's in the very low rank when I compare her to previous women Prince has been with.

So, by your standards, do you believe that the "sole reason" behind my opinions stated above is I'm jealous of Bria and am angry she's with Prince?

Finally, I'd like to make clear at this point that, for me, this debate/discussion is more about unfairly dismissing and discounting reasonable opinions of a less-than-fawny or positive nature any why that is wrong and smallminded than it is about Bria herself.

Unless I am wrong...I have never read any post on here from you where you are just bashing Bria day in and day out-that is the difference. Of course, Elixer may not be to your liking or to others liking, but disliking and just plain ole hating are two different things. As for Bria being compared to Sade-honestly that is my first time hearing that and there is NO WAY IN HELL that could ever come to pass The cd is nice, listenable-that is all. With all that being said, at least you can agree that alot of these feelings towards Bria do stem from the so-called fact that she has been in the presence of Prince. No I do not believe you are jealous of Bria-you have never posted responses to make me or anyone else think that.

One can dislike Elixer and not be accused of hating Bria cuz she's with Prince, but the majority of these comments that are posted about her does stem from that place-that deep, dark hating on Prince's female friends place

WaterInYourBath said:

I'm still waiting for Tamar's album.

And wasn't Shelby J supposed to have one released too? Or was that Marva King?

You know I'm surprised that no Prince Shelby rumors have popped up

Hi, Bria! Where you been keeping yourself?

Genesia said:

Hi, Bria! Where you been keeping yourself?

Genesia is about to bring it

I like some songs on her album. I just wish she would sing them live. She says people say she sounds like Chante' Moore and has a Sade vibe. Well those ladies had to sing live. Why doesn't she? An album is only as good as the performer and so far we haven't seen one performancefrom Bria. She's good at answering questions but how bout a live performance. For one she could have done an opening act with these songs Here Eye Come, Home, Another Boy, Immersion & Elixer. I don't think I am the only one that would have liked to see her alone so we can see what Prince saw in her so much that he put her cd with 2 of his.

nursev said:

Genesia said:

Hi, Bria! Where you been keeping yourself?

Genesia is about to bring it

C'mon...a "masterpiece?" Seriously?

mayrain said:

I like some songs on her album. I just wish she would sing them live. She says people say she sounds like Chante' Moore and has a Sade vibe. Well those ladies had to sing live. Why doesn't she? An album is only as good as the performer and so far we haven't seen one performancefrom Bria. She's good at answering questions but how bout a live performance. For one she could have done an opening act with these songs Here Eye Come, Home, Another Boy, Immersion & Elixer. I don't think I am the only one that would have liked to see her alone so we can see what Prince saw in her so much that he put her cd with 2 of his.

I know I would Hell maybe she can't sing live Only Bria and Prince know

Genesia said:

nursev said:

Genesia is about to bring it

C'mon...a "masterpiece?" Seriously?

Umm...yeah that's a stretch

nursev said:

RubyButterfly said:

Really? The one reason people can have for not caring for Bria - to whatever degree or for whatever reason - is because she's with Prince? You honestly believe that, really?

I know it's already been stated a billion times before, and better, on a billion previous threads but heck, I'll repeat it: I think it's a little unfair to say people will 'hate' on Bria only because she has Prince. I'm not a Bria fan, and I think she is a sub-par "talent", but my opinion is hardly because I'm JELLUS or because I want to be with Prince.

You're painting with a pretty broad brush there, nursev.

[Edited 6/4/10 17:08pm]

May be a big ass brush, but it's true Folks on here eventually find fault with whoever Prince is with and yes I give it a few more minutes and some men who want him will be in here bashing Bria too I like the lady-she seems to be a nice person and from the outside looking in she seems to make Prince happy. Another Boy is my song and the cd is nice-Like it or not

I think you're wrong because wnen people act like that usually their unattactive ... And you just mad cause "I DID NOT DANCE" So go a head with your jokes but deep down inside you and some of your other cyberbullies old people that want be young.. Know the truth.. I forgive you

godswill said:

nursev said:

May be a big ass brush, but it's true Folks on here eventually find fault with whoever Prince is with and yes I give it a few more minutes and some men who want him will be in here bashing Bria too I like the lady-she seems to be a nice person and from the outside looking in she seems to make Prince happy. Another Boy is my song and the cd is nice-Like it or not

I think you're wrong because wnen people act like that usually their unattactive ... And you just mad cause "I DID NOT DANCE" So go a head with your jokes but deep down inside you and some of your other cyberbullies old people that want be young.. Know the truth.. I forgive you

What?

nursev said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I'm still waiting for Tamar's album.

And wasn't Shelby J supposed to have one released too? Or was that Marva King?

You know I'm surprised that no Prince Shelby rumors have popped up

I'm not.

She's not "Prince's type." Hence, no album release. But Bria? Oh yeah, her lame vocals are packaged nice and neatly with his double-disc album. Oh how fair. His same old mentality from the 80s and 90s.

If Bria could sing as good as Shelby and the others I mentioned, I wouldn't have one problem with her CD. Forget who he's dating. The lady hasn't even performed anywhere in public. She doesn't dance, play an instrument, nothing. Yet, all three of the others had to sweat, sing and dance like crazy on stage, and still have no albums under their names. But my resent is based on jealousy? Hmm....No. For real.

People can say: "But Bria's voice is so soothing and nice, etc, etc," and that's fine if that's what you like. But if her soft, non-unique voice can garner a release, so could the other women's voices that were overshadowed by hers.

WaterInYourBath said:

nursev said:

You know I'm surprised that no Prince Shelby rumors have popped up

I'm not.

She's not "Prince's type." Hence, no album release. But Bria? Oh yeah, her lame vocals are packaged nice and neatly with his double-disc album. Oh how fair. His same old mentality from the 80s and 90s.

If Bria could sing as good as Shelby and the others I mentioned, I wouldn't have one problem with her CD. Forget who he's dating. The lady hasn't even performed anywhere in public. She doesn't dance, play an instrument, nothing. Yet, all three of the others had to sweat, sing and dance like crazy on stage, and still have no albums under their names. But my resent is based on jealousy? Hmm....No. For real.

People can say: "But Bria's voice is so soothing and nice, etc, etc," and that's fine if that's what you like. But if her soft, non-unique voice can garner a release, so could the other women's voices that were overshadowed by hers.

All valid points-I really didn't want to go there, but since you did well...So you say cuz Shelby can sing, is not the typical looking Prince lady-that is the reason she has no cd I would hope that Prince has evolved more than that

WaterInYourBath said:

I'm still waiting for Tamar's album.

And why is that?

Tamar's album has being doing the rounds for more than 2 years.

Bria's album is maybe more bearable for me than its two companions. 'Something U already know' is a very good track (not especially in Bria's voice, tho).

Deeming the album 'a masterpiece' is like saying Carmen Electra is a musical genius.

What irks me more about Bria is that she 'wasn't allowed' to sing live. That alone makes me consider her a sort of puppet.