vitriol said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I'm still waiting for Tamar's album.

And why is that?

Tamar's album has being doing the rounds for more than 2 years.

Bria's album is maybe more bearable for me than its two companions. 'Something U already know' is a very good track (not especially in Bria's voice, tho).

Deeming the album 'a masterpiece' is like saying Carmen Electra is a musical genius.

What irks me more about Bria is that she 'wasn't allowed' to sing live. That alone makes me consider her a sort of puppet.

What? Where?! In what stores? She's had an official release sold somewhere?

nursev said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I'm not.

She's not "Prince's type." Hence, no album release. But Bria? Oh yeah, her lame vocals are packaged nice and neatly with his double-disc album. Oh how fair. His same old mentality from the 80s and 90s.

If Bria could sing as good as Shelby and the others I mentioned, I wouldn't have one problem with her CD. Forget who he's dating. The lady hasn't even performed anywhere in public. She doesn't dance, play an instrument, nothing. Yet, all three of the others had to sweat, sing and dance like crazy on stage, and still have no albums under their names. But my resent is based on jealousy? Hmm....No. For real.

People can say: "But Bria's voice is so soothing and nice, etc, etc," and that's fine if that's what you like. But if her soft, non-unique voice can garner a release, so could the other women's voices that were overshadowed by hers.

All valid points-I really didn't want to go there, but since you did well...So you say cuz Shelby can sing, is not the typical looking Prince lady-that is the reason she has no cd I would hope that Prince has evolved more than that

I don't even know how to respond to that without going in another direction, LOL. But I'll give him a break. I think he released a record for Rosie Gaines sometime during the New Power Soul era, if I'm not mistaken. I don't remember seeing any promotion for it, but I'm quite sure I've read that there's an NPG record with her name on it, so, you know, even though she had to wait 8 years, he's not totally biased, lol.

Another part about Bria's album that I didn't like was that I had no choice but to put money down for it since I wanted to purchase his two CDs. He became slick. See, in the past, you had an option whether or not to buy his girlfriend's/protege's albums. If I had been around in the 80s, I would have been like, nope, heck naw, I'm not buying anything with Vanity. Or, like, yeah, I'm getting that Sheila E. record. Or, hmm, I might come back and buy Jill Jones' album. Then in the 90s, I would have thought, sure, this Ingrid Chavez record looks interesting. Or, nah, Mayte is gonna stay here in the store. But, again, Bria? I had no choice but to have her CD in my house unless I didn't buy his set at all. ....

Genesia said:

Hi, Bria! Where you been keeping yourself?

Joined May 26th...how many usernames has it been so far?

nursev said:

godswill said:

I think you're wrong because wnen people act like that usually their unattactive ... And you just mad cause "I DID NOT DANCE" So go a head with your jokes but deep down inside you and some of your other cyberbullies old people that want be young.. Know the truth.. I forgive you

What?

it's not too bad, it's not too good, it just is...

I would have loved it to be amazing but it just doesn't breathe "soul",

hard to explain but if you listen to janis joplin, blondie, tina turner, alicia keys, they breathe soul period, they sing their guts, take you on a journey with their songs, welcome you "inside" no matter what genre of music...

Bria just sounds like she's riding along with the bus but not actually feeling the ride...

I'm by no means a bria hater I'm just expressing a personal opinion...

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nursev said:

May be a big ass brush, but it's true Folks on here eventually find fault with whoever Prince is with and yes I give it a few more minutes and some men who want him will be in here bashing Bria too I like the lady-she seems to be a nice person and from the outside looking in she seems to make Prince happy. Another Boy is my song and the cd is nice-Like it or not

NurseV. Something to think about. How do you know that Bria isnt causing another harm to rouse the bad talk?

You dont.

The catch 22 is that to those who may have a personal vendetta against the woman for their own valid reasons, she is protected by the cat calls of "jealousy". It is quite an easy route by external observation. Im not taking guard on the real haters, because thats childish, but... maybe there is some purpose to the madness? Maybe it is provoked?

Posts like this one here, calling her album a "masterpiece", lay way for criticism. Anything contrary to these elated opinions does not exactly equate to jealousy by any means. Thats a very narrow p.o.v.

WaterInYourBath said:

vitriol said:

And why is that?

Tamar's album has being doing the rounds for more than 2 years.

Bria's album is maybe more bearable for me than its two companions. 'Something U already know' is a very good track (not especially in Bria's voice, tho).

Deeming the album 'a masterpiece' is like saying Carmen Electra is a musical genius.

What irks me more about Bria is that she 'wasn't allowed' to sing live. That alone makes me consider her a sort of puppet.

What? Where?! In what stores? She's had an official release sold somewhere?

Disc 2 of the WOW boot. I quite like it, preferable to the Bria for sure.

^Even before that Eye Records dustbin album was out, copies of Tamar's cd were easy to find off the few Japanese originals which sold for crazy money.

No it's really terrible sorry!

To be honest, the songs sound better to me when they just shuffle through on iTunes. When I tried to listen to the whole thing in one shot, it was bored and left feeling like something was missing.

It's far from a masterpiece.

But really- do you think she would have gotten that record released if she went to a record company with a demo and tried to sell it?

So Prince and Bria are a couple?

Sorry, just asking because didn't get my copy of the magazine jet.

And I saw a Bria thread

hestilllovesme said:

So Prince and Bria are a couple?

Sorry, just asking because didn't get my copy of the magazine jet.

And I saw a Bria thread

I'm pretty sure they are.

mycherrymoon said:

hestilllovesme said:

So Prince and Bria are a couple?

Sorry, just asking because didn't get my copy of the magazine jet.

And I saw a Bria thread

I'm pretty sure they are.

Oh he did say it in the interview?

hestilllovesme said:

mycherrymoon said:

I'm pretty sure they are.

Oh he did say it in the interview?

I haven't read the interview yet, but I just have a feeling they are.

mycherrymoon said:

hestilllovesme said:

Oh he did say it in the interview?

I haven't read the interview yet, but I just have a feeling they are.

Let's wait and see

vitalbacon said:

of course most people are just too deaf to understand that the bria valente-album is an absolute masterpiece.

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I don't think its a bad album. Prince gave her some good material. Usually its just one or two tracks on his protege's albums that are good besides The Time's Projects. I think he put time into this one. But the way it was put out turned fans off. They felt it interfered with Prince's release by him including it in the Lotusflow3r package. So they trashed her. Because he made them try to listen to it. But now he has the last laugh. Since that is his new woman now.

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If Bria has a so beautiful voice.... why she doesn't sing live? her only performance was sitting on a chair far behind prince....

I wanna judge in real, in live, if her voice is as beautiful as it seems!

chocolate1 said:

do you think she would have gotten that record released if she went to a record company with a demo and tried to sell it?

She could spend CENTURIES going from one label to another without getting a contract.

Cyn said:

If Bria has a so beautiful voice.... why she doesn't sing live? her only performance was sitting on a chair far behind prince....

I wanna judge in real, in live, if her voice is as beautiful as it seems!

She ain't got a beautiful voice and she got no singing skills. I mean, the person who sang on the album.

Given that she wasn't allowed to sing live (or we weren't allowed to check out that she really can) I think we can't be sure if Bria Valente is the one who sings on the record.

So I rather see her as a 'pet' who Prince decided to keep for some reason.

Maybe she's a great blowjobber (and therefore that's why Prince keeps the pet) but since that is a private thing I still need a demonstration of what's Bria useful for.

C'mon, even Mayte and Carmen Electra (poor singers as can be) were allowed to sing live. The fact that Bria blatantly wasn't makes me wonder a lot of things.

Solid release...... Not as bad as some make it out to be....

^Well, after what I said about the album I must admit I find it rather more bearable than LF or MPLS which I find awful.

Yawn! She's a kept woman ie puppet, pet, arm candy. P seems to be trying to find something that suits him he tried the creative virgin dancer who grew up, next was the charity working law student who got bored being left alone and now he has the kept woman who is only seen and rarely heard. Wonder whats next on the cards?

Bria's album was crap, didnt even bother to download it doubt we will hear another tune from her with Prince. Besides how happy would you be that your lover wants to stick your album inside his and sell it for $10 a pop? Might as well be silent B-side on a vinyl.

Even Mayte got her own CD, artwork, singles & videos.

Tamar on the other hand is fab I love her song "Heartbeat" there are some great vids of her singing live in Antalya, Turkey on Youtube.

I guess Prince will never produce anything that is amazing as he will never want someone to take his spot light, as long as they look the part thats all he is interested in.

a lot of prince's post-80'ies music is made to prove his skills; "listen how great i am"; as ernest sewell recently stated: there is a kind of agression in all his post-eighties-music.

but the bria album completely lacks this obtrusiveness. it has a natural relax no prince-album has. it is free from all that music-business-frustration and it just lets the music breath.

bria is not a remarkable singer at all, but need she be? she's just one of prince's many instruments and her modality adds up to the naturalness of the record.

isn't it beautiful how prince's voice fades in in the song 'elixer', the very last song? only then you realise - yes, i was listening to a prince-record!

because even fams don't give these projects a chance, prince cannot get them off the ground. shame us you. we already lost the briljant tamar-album that way!!

i was going to start a thread about this CD.

The songs are pretty good and I wonder what they would have been like had they been recorded by Shelby J. Certainly Shelby's version of 2night would have been far superior to Brias. The only song that I think profits from Bria's kittenish voice is Immersion. Given that Ms Bria has not yet taken the stage and sang any of these songs, do you think Prince will have Shelby do a couple? Shelby doing a duet of Elixer with P, for instance?

Obviously P thought Bria had some sort of "quiet storm" voice that reminded him of SADE and the rest of us just couldn't hear it . Shelby's style is not at all like Sade's, but I would like to hear her sing "Something you already know" and "all this love".

Anybody else feel the same way??

Deadflow3r said:

i was going to start a thread about this CD.

The songs are pretty good and I wonder what they would have been like had they been recorded by Shelby J. Certainly Shelby's version of 2night would have been far superior to Brias. The only song that I think profits from Bria's kittenish voice is Immersion. Given that Ms Bria has not yet taken the stage and sang any of these songs, do you think Prince will have Shelby do a couple? Shelby doing a duet of Elixer with P, for instance?

Obviously P thought Bria had some sort of "quiet storm" voice that reminded him of SADE and the rest of us just couldn't hear it . Shelby's style is not at all like Sade's, but I would like to hear her sing "Something you already know" and "all this love".

Anybody else feel the same way??

A lot of songs are really catchy. Her voice is truly nothing special.

And her voice isn't made for quite storm, definitively not.

In the Tavis interview he was kinda embarrassed he compared her

to Sade anyway.

I listend to Bria album a couple of times because it

is really not THAT bad, just nothing special. Sad but true, a lot of

other female singers could have done better.

And when the album debuted she said in an interview

that she was really surprised that he put her album with his. So that means what?

If the whole producing thing was like a family, like she stated, why she

was so doubtfully that the cd gonna see the light?

Can you tell me when Prince and Tamar got together musically? And when

Bria came into the game and kicked Tamar's butt.

hestilllovesme said:

Deadflow3r said:

i was going to start a thread about this CD.

The songs are pretty good and I wonder what they would have been like had they been recorded by Shelby J. Certainly Shelby's version of 2night would have been far superior to Brias. The only song that I think profits from Bria's kittenish voice is Immersion. Given that Ms Bria has not yet taken the stage and sang any of these songs, do you think Prince will have Shelby do a couple? Shelby doing a duet of Elixer with P, for instance?

Obviously P thought Bria had some sort of "quiet storm" voice that reminded him of SADE and the rest of us just couldn't hear it . Shelby's style is not at all like Sade's, but I would like to hear her sing "Something you already know" and "all this love".

Anybody else feel the same way??

A lot of songs are really catchy. Her voice is truly nothing special.

And her voice isn't made for quite storm, definitively not.

In the Tavis interview he was kinda embarrassed he compared her

to Sade anyway.

I listend to Bria album a couple of times because it

is really not THAT bad, just nothing special. Sad but true, a lot of

other female singers could have done better.

And when the album debuted she said in an interview

that she was really surprised that he put her album with his. So that means what?

If the whole producing thing was like a family, like she stated, why she

was so doubtfully that the cd gonna see the light?

Can you tell me when Prince and Tamar got together musically? And when

Bria came into the game and kicked Tamar's butt.

When you talk about "her" voice not being special do you mean Shelby J or Bria.

Don't know when Tamar made her exit. She was all over 3121 but gone when the 21 nights/ Indigo nights was released. The twins were present on both but were missing once Lotusflow3r was released. Bria's voice is on Planet Earth, released before Indigo, but she is not a part of the 21 nights picture book and the Indigo CD. I think that when people leave the Prince camp their name is simply not mentioned again. You would have to know someone personally to find out what went down between Prince and Tamar before she exited.

Deadflow3r said:

hestilllovesme said:

A lot of songs are really catchy. Her voice is truly nothing special.

And her voice isn't made for quite storm, definitively not.

In the Tavis interview he was kinda embarrassed he compared her

to Sade anyway.

I listend to Bria album a couple of times because it

is really not THAT bad, just nothing special. Sad but true, a lot of

other female singers could have done better.

And when the album debuted she said in an interview

that she was really surprised that he put her album with his. So that means what?

If the whole producing thing was like a family, like she stated, why she

was so doubtfully that the cd gonna see the light?

Can you tell me when Prince and Tamar got together musically? And when

Bria came into the game and kicked Tamar's butt.

When you talk about "her" voice not being special do you mean Shelby J or Bria. ( I mean Bria!)

Don't know when Tamar made her exit. She was all over 3121 but gone when the 21 nights/ Indigo nights was released. The twins were present on both but were missing once Lotusflow3r was released. Bria's voice is on Planet Earth, released before Indigo, but she is not a part of the 21 nights picture book and the Indigo CD. I think that when people leave the Prince camp their name is simply not mentioned again. You would have to know someone personally to find out what went down between Prince and Tamar before she exited.

That means Bria is in the game since Planet Earth okay. Seems like all his

girls, protogés, dancer whatever are just a couple of years in Prince`s kingdom.

(Oh I know that's nothing new!)

And I don't think he gave Bria fresh stuff for the the album

because the kept woman is a tamar song anyway. Sad we'll never

know what happened with that Tamar CD. Prince just looks like

a bad mentor. but of course we already know that.

WaterInYourBath said:

I'm still waiting for Tamar's album.

And wasn't Shelby J supposed to have one released too? Or was that Marva King?

Tamars album was not that great...sadly.

I just hope these songs get a chance to be sung in one of his concerts and I hope it's Shelby that sings them.