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Printablelaurarichardson said: dreamshaman32 said: Those people should buckle up, Mint Condition will blow the lid off the place. This is the first time since The Time that Prince had a supporting act with the musical chops to raise the bar before he hit the stage.
----- Wow you don't think Larry has musical chops!!! Compared 2 Mint Condition in 2010? NO. Mint is going 2 ROCK the joint. [Edited 5/20/10 14:01pm] | |
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Graycap23 said: laurarichardson said: ----- Wow you don't think Larry has musical chops!!! Compared 2 Mint Condition in 2010? NO. Mint is going 2 ROCK the joint. [Edited 5/20/10 14:01pm] ----- Larry has received some really good reviews from his recent shows so I kind of think that everyone is going to be good and P put this line up together for a reason. Anywsy should be a great show and I wish I could go. | |
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laurarichardson said: BartVanHemelen said: Didn't stop fucking around. Didn't stop exploiting his fans. Didn't stop suing people for dumb stuff. Exactly HOW did he become "a better person"? ----- I am a fan and I have not been exploited by Prince It's always about YOU. How about looking at things OBJECTIVELY and admitting a ton of people feel very much ripped off by Lotusflow3r.com and by previous endeavors? laurarichardson said: Who has actually been sued by P?
Threatened to sue, then. Because that makes him soooo much better. laurarichardson said: The Baby lady was battling with Universal not Prince and she had the option of taking the dancing baby down instead of proceeding with a pointless case.
Oh look, LIES. And she won. laurarichardson said: I don’t know if P fucks around and I don’t care because unlike you I am not that invested in this artist that I need to know if he has an active sex life. If this is what you sit around thinking about seek help.
YOU said he's become "a better person". Now let's see: how many of his marriages failed since his conversion? And why would that be? I don't give a shit that he's fucking around, but unlike you I'm not pretending that Prince has become "a better person" -- something you can't know and something that is disproven by FACTS. laurarichardson said: I am sure that like a lot of people you think all Christians have giant wings coming out of their backsides and therefore are not allowed to make mistakes. Well your wrong as a core tenet of Christianity is the fact that we all are sinners no one is perfect but all can be forgiven if you acknowledge your wrongs.
Prince does? How would you know? Oh, and he's a JW. Judge him by the standards of the faith he chose, not the one that fits your already debunked theory. laurarichardson said: By P’s own interviews
Which contain numerous lies. laurarichardson said: he has stated that he has not always been a good person, was immature, and was not respectful to woman. Those comments concerning his behavior are considered acknowledgement of bad behavior. By the comments from some of his associates he has mellowed out over the last decade.
Funny then how his marriages fail. Funny how his relationships are always with young women, and don't last that long. Oh, and I haven't even touched on his homophobia. laurarichardson said: It is unfortunate that for you nothing P does is going to be good enough and I just hope you are so perfect that you never slip up or make mistakes.
I'm just holding him to the standards he chose. © Bart Van Hemelen
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laurarichardson said: I am a fan and I have not been exploited by Prince and I doubt that many fans in the entire world feel exploited. You know Bart there is a world outside of Prince.org with loads of hard core and casual fans who don’t give a shit about Lotusflower this is obvious since a low level of members seems to have doomed the project. You can only be exploited if you want to be exploited.
Who has actually been sued by P? The Baby lady was battling with Universal not Prince and she had the option of taking the dancing baby down instead of proceeding with a pointless case. Outside of that can you think of any fans not business associates that have gone to court and lose time and money because P sued them. Because right now he is the one being sued by others. I am sure that like a lot of people you think all Christians have giant wings coming out of their backsides and therefore are not allowed to make mistakes. Well your wrong as a core tenet of Christianity is the fact that we all are sinners no one is perfect but all can be forgiven if you acknowledge your wrongs. By P’s own interviews he has stated that he has not always been a good person, was immature, and was not respectful to woman. Those comments concerning his behavior are considered acknowledgment of bad behavior. By the comments from some of his associates he has mellowed out over the last decade. It is unfortunate that for you nothing P does is going to be good enough and I just hope you are so perfect that you never slip up or make mistakes. Your statements are so far off base. Keep it based in fact, not your personal experience. You weren't exploited by Prince? Last I read, you aren't the only Prince fan in the world. Plenty have stories of being exploited, bullied, and sued by Prince. I mean....who the fuck does that? Hasn't he learned anything from Metallica??? People were fucking burning their CDs in the streets after the Napster thing. While this isn't an argument on downloading and file sharing, it is about how a band handles their business and carefully balances that with communicating w/ their fan base. (Side note: Lars Ulrich later said he doesn't care if anyone downloads his music.) Prince has sued a lot of fan sites, that either became part of the now-gone Love4OneAnother collective (how very Totalitarian of him), or have to strip things down so much that it's like trying to listen to a CD on an 8-track. When Prince sues or threatens a woman who is filming her child as a memory is happening and being created, Prince is a fucking asshole for doing it. There, I said it. I don't dislike Prince, but he's a prick when he does something like that. How is that woman's video hurting him? Why didn't he call YouTube and say "Hey, don't worry about that one." "Why doesn't she take it down?" Why don't companies remember there are HUMANS in the world with families? We're not demographics, we're not numbers, we're not a point of sale. Shame on Prince for not stopping it, and shame on whoever else for perpetuating it. He's not a better person for his JW stance. He puts across this act of not cursing, and changing his lyrics from "Sexuality" to "Spirituality", then acts like a sinner the other six days a week. Even back during his Lovesexy "I saw God" days and sometime after, he'd talk about Jesus in public, then go write songs like "Good Pussy" an hour later. He was a laughing stock even within his own band, and band members have said as much, so that's not conjecture. Yes, there is a world outside prince.org (small p, on purpose by Ben), and it's the hard core fans that aren't blind to the reality and truth about Prince. He's not a bad person, but he's done, and still does, some really REALLY shitty things to and against his fans. You can rant all day about how people are haters or naysayers, but for someone who calls themselves a Prince fan, and Prince is supposed to be all about the truth, it's a bit ironic that half the Prince fans out there ignore the truth about Prince himself. | |
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BartVanHemelen said: jmfd said: It would be so nice if he retired and moved back to Oakland where he belongs.
IIRC He had a nice house on Hawaii or some place like that. BBC's "Dancing In The Street" interviewed him there, separate from the rest of the Family Stone. IIRC it was in Jamaica. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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KoolEaze said: BartVanHemelen said: IIRC He had a nice house on Hawaii or some place like that. BBC's "Dancing In The Street" interviewed him there, separate from the rest of the Family Stone. IIRC it was in Jamaica. Ah yes: Montego Bay, Jamaica. © Bart Van Hemelen
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ernestsewell said: laurarichardson said: I am a fan and I have not been exploited by Prince and I doubt that many fans in the entire world feel exploited. You know Bart there is a world outside of Prince.org with loads of hard core and casual fans who don’t give a shit about Lotusflower this is obvious since a low level of members seems to have doomed the project. You can only be exploited if you want to be exploited.
Who has actually been sued by P? The Baby lady was battling with Universal not Prince and she had the option of taking the dancing baby down instead of proceeding with a pointless case. Outside of that can you think of any fans not business associates that have gone to court and lose time and money because P sued them. Because right now he is the one being sued by others. I am sure that like a lot of people you think all Christians have giant wings coming out of their backsides and therefore are not allowed to make mistakes. Well your wrong as a core tenet of Christianity is the fact that we all are sinners no one is perfect but all can be forgiven if you acknowledge your wrongs. By P’s own interviews he has stated that he has not always been a good person, was immature, and was not respectful to woman. Those comments concerning his behavior are considered acknowledgment of bad behavior. By the comments from some of his associates he has mellowed out over the last decade. It is unfortunate that for you nothing P does is going to be good enough and I just hope you are so perfect that you never slip up or make mistakes. Your statements are so far off base. Keep it based in fact, not your personal experience. You weren't exploited by Prince? Last I read, you aren't the only Prince fan in the world. Plenty have stories of being exploited, bullied, and sued by Prince. I mean....who the fuck does that? Hasn't he learned anything from Metallica??? People were fucking burning their CDs in the streets after the Napster thing. While this isn't an argument on downloading and file sharing, it is about how a band handles their business and carefully balances that with communicating w/ their fan base. (Side note: Lars Ulrich later said he doesn't care if anyone downloads his music.) Prince has sued a lot of fan sites, that either became part of the now-gone Love4OneAnother collective (how very Totalitarian of him), or have to strip things down so much that it's like trying to listen to a CD on an 8-track. When Prince sues or threatens a woman who is filming her child as a memory is happening and being created, Prince is a fucking asshole for doing it. There, I said it. I don't dislike Prince, but he's a prick when he does something like that. How is that woman's video hurting him? Why didn't he call YouTube and say "Hey, don't worry about that one." "Why doesn't she take it down?" Why don't companies remember there are HUMANS in the world with families? We're not demographics, we're not numbers, we're not a point of sale. Shame on Prince for not stopping it, and shame on whoever else for perpetuating it. He's not a better person for his JW stance. He puts across this act of not cursing, and changing his lyrics from "Sexuality" to "Spirituality", then acts like a sinner the other six days a week. Even back during his Lovesexy "I saw God" days and sometime after, he'd talk about Jesus in public, then go write songs like "Good Pussy" an hour later. He was a laughing stock even within his own band, and band members have said as much, so that's not conjecture. Yes, there is a world outside prince.org (small p, on purpose by Ben), and it's the hard core fans that aren't blind to the reality and truth about Prince. He's not a bad person, but he's done, and still does, some really REALLY shitty things to and against his fans. You can rant all day about how people are haters or naysayers, but for someone who calls themselves a Prince fan, and Prince is supposed to be all about the truth, it's a bit ironic that half the Prince fans out there ignore the truth about Prince himself. So true. Great post. He is his own worst enemy and his antics are not only damaging his popularity among his longtime fans but also demolishing his legacy bit by bit. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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databank said: Astasheiks said: Reminds me of this Thread:
http://prince.org/msg/7/328717 
Larry still hangin around... I wonder how many people over there care about his music??? Larry's 70's albums r funk classics, period. WORD! Ishan Cooper - #BATFUNKCRAZY LP out now.. in 3D!!! https://ishancooper.bandcamp.com PURE UNCUT FUNK FROM DOWNUNDER \m/ | |
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ernestsewell said: laurarichardson said: I am a fan and I have not been exploited by Prince and I doubt that many fans in the entire world feel exploited. You know Bart there is a world outside of Prince.org with loads of hard core and casual fans who don’t give a shit about Lotusflower this is obvious since a low level of members seems to have doomed the project. You can only be exploited if you want to be exploited.
Who has actually been sued by P? The Baby lady was battling with Universal not Prince and she had the option of taking the dancing baby down instead of proceeding with a pointless case. Outside of that can you think of any fans not business associates that have gone to court and lose time and money because P sued them. Because right now he is the one being sued by others. I am sure that like a lot of people you think all Christians have giant wings coming out of their backsides and therefore are not allowed to make mistakes. Well your wrong as a core tenet of Christianity is the fact that we all are sinners no one is perfect but all can be forgiven if you acknowledge your wrongs. By P’s own interviews he has stated that he has not always been a good person, was immature, and was not respectful to woman. Those comments concerning his behavior are considered acknowledgment of bad behavior. By the comments from some of his associates he has mellowed out over the last decade. It is unfortunate that for you nothing P does is going to be good enough and I just hope you are so perfect that you never slip up or make mistakes. Your statements are so far off base. Keep it based in fact, not your personal experience. You weren't exploited by Prince? Last I read, you aren't the only Prince fan in the world. Plenty have stories of being exploited, bullied, and sued by Prince. I mean....who the fuck does that? Hasn't he learned anything from Metallica??? People were fucking burning their CDs in the streets after the Napster thing. While this isn't an argument on downloading and file sharing, it is about how a band handles their business and carefully balances that with communicating w/ their fan base. (Side note: Lars Ulrich later said he doesn't care if anyone downloads his music.) Prince has sued a lot of fan sites, that either became part of the now-gone Love4OneAnother collective (how very Totalitarian of him), or have to strip things down so much that it's like trying to listen to a CD on an 8-track. When Prince sues or threatens a woman who is filming her child as a memory is happening and being created, Prince is a fucking asshole for doing it. There, I said it. I don't dislike Prince, but he's a prick when he does something like that. How is that woman's video hurting him? Why didn't he call YouTube and say "Hey, don't worry about that one." "Why doesn't she take it down?" Why don't companies remember there are HUMANS in the world with families? We're not demographics, we're not numbers, we're not a point of sale. Shame on Prince for not stopping it, and shame on whoever else for perpetuating it. He's not a better person for his JW stance. He puts across this act of not cursing, and changing his lyrics from "Sexuality" to "Spirituality", then acts like a sinner the other six days a week. Even back during his Lovesexy "I saw God" days and sometime after, he'd talk about Jesus in public, then go write songs like "Good Pussy" an hour later. He was a laughing stock even within his own band, and band members have said as much, so that's not conjecture. Yes, there is a world outside prince.org (small p, on purpose by Ben), and it's the hard core fans that aren't blind to the reality and truth about Prince. He's not a bad person, but he's done, and still does, some really REALLY shitty things to and against his fans. You can rant all day about how people are haters or naysayers, but for someone who calls themselves a Prince fan, and Prince is supposed to be all about the truth, it's a bit ironic that half the Prince fans out there ignore the truth about Prince himself. ----- "You weren't exploited by Prince? Last I read, you aren't the only Prince fan in the world. Plenty have stories of being exploited, bullied, and sued by Prince." I was not exploited by Prince and I never said I was the only fan in the world. I said he has lots of fans and I don't thing these people would pay money to come out and see him in concert if they felt so exploited. I know some fans are disgruntled but some of you live in such a bubble that you actually think it is all going to have some effect on Prince when it is obvious it will not and never really has. I asked was anyone outside of the baby lady and Uptown sued. Fan sites were sent cease and desist letters and they then decided to pull their sites down. Cease and desist letter are not lawsuits. I don’t know of any fan sites outside of Uptown that actually went to court. In addition, if these people put up illegal files they should have the good sense to know they were breaking the law. Because you don't like the law does not change the fact that it is the law. You may think he is a prick and you have a right to your opinion but P has a right to protect his copyrights and since all artist are getting some money out of YOUTUBE now he may have made the right decision to fight with them until the financial issue was resolved. As far as the JW thing you don't know Prince on a personal level dude. You cannot say really if being a JW has made him a good person or a bad person. What we do know is that he has publicly acknowledged that he has not always been a nice person and that he is trying to change. No one is perfect and no one can really stand in judgment of someone who is obviously struggling with spiritual and worldly issues which, a lot of Christians struggle with being a spiritual person and dealing with the world and all the vices that are around. It is interesting that you have to go all the way back to his Love sexy years to find an example. I mean that was 20 years ago and the Love sexy/Black Album was about dude’s two sides. It seems like a lot of people you missed the point of the whole thing. In addition, the Good Pussy story came from Tommy Babaralla from the 94 to 95 years when P was not being is the least bit spiritual. "Prince Fans out there ignore the truth about Prince himself." No we just don't care about this crap. A lot of us care about the music. We don't care who P sued, who he sleeping with, who is suing him or if he is going to hell with gasoline underwear on. Some of us are just not that invested in dude's life. | |
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KoolEaze said: ernestsewell said: Your statements are so far off base. Keep it based in fact, not your personal experience. You weren't exploited by Prince? Last I read, you aren't the only Prince fan in the world. Plenty have stories of being exploited, bullied, and sued by Prince. I mean....who the fuck does that? Hasn't he learned anything from Metallica??? People were fucking burning their CDs in the streets after the Napster thing. While this isn't an argument on downloading and file sharing, it is about how a band handles their business and carefully balances that with communicating w/ their fan base. (Side note: Lars Ulrich later said he doesn't care if anyone downloads his music.) Prince has sued a lot of fan sites, that either became part of the now-gone Love4OneAnother collective (how very Totalitarian of him), or have to strip things down so much that it's like trying to listen to a CD on an 8-track. When Prince sues or threatens a woman who is filming her child as a memory is happening and being created, Prince is a fucking asshole for doing it. There, I said it. I don't dislike Prince, but he's a prick when he does something like that. How is that woman's video hurting him? Why didn't he call YouTube and say "Hey, don't worry about that one." "Why doesn't she take it down?" Why don't companies remember there are HUMANS in the world with families? We're not demographics, we're not numbers, we're not a point of sale. Shame on Prince for not stopping it, and shame on whoever else for perpetuating it. He's not a better person for his JW stance. He puts across this act of not cursing, and changing his lyrics from "Sexuality" to "Spirituality", then acts like a sinner the other six days a week. Even back during his Lovesexy "I saw God" days and sometime after, he'd talk about Jesus in public, then go write songs like "Good Pussy" an hour later. He was a laughing stock even within his own band, and band members have said as much, so that's not conjecture. Yes, there is a world outside prince.org (small p, on purpose by Ben), and it's the hard core fans that aren't blind to the reality and truth about Prince. He's not a bad person, but he's done, and still does, some really REALLY shitty things to and against his fans. You can rant all day about how people are haters or naysayers, but for someone who calls themselves a Prince fan, and Prince is supposed to be all about the truth, it's a bit ironic that half the Prince fans out there ignore the truth about Prince himself. So true. Great post. He is his own worst enemy and his antics are not only damaging his popularity among his longtime fans but also demolishing his legacy bit by bit. ----- What drama. Looks like his most recent show sold pretty well so it seems that causal fans will keep P's legacy going. | |
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BartVanHemelen said:[quote] laurarichardson said: Funny then how his marriages fail. Funny how his relationships are always with young women, and don't last that long. Oh, and I haven't even touched on his homophobia. laurarichardson said: It is unfortunate that for you nothing P does is going to be good enough and I just hope you are so perfect that you never slip up or make mistakes.
I'm just holding him to the standards he chose. ----- It's always about YOU. How about looking at things OBJECTIVELY and admitting a ton of people feel very much ripped off by Lotusflow3r.com and by previous endeavors? Dude I can only speak for myself and I don't know anyone that was in Lotusflow3r. So I don't know on a personal level about a rip off. What I do know is that this was a failed business that never really promised members anything including a time frame on how long the thing would last. People made a choice when they signed up and should have taken the time to read the fine print. Especllly since some people were unhappy with the previous on-line offering. Try taking some responsiblity about making a bad decision to join. A decison I did not make so why should cry over it. ----- "Threatened to sue, then. Because that makes him soooo much better. " No it does not make him better means he did sue anyone and it means you are talking out of your ass again. ----- The Baby lady was battling with Universal not Prince and she had the option of taking the dancing baby down instead of proceeding with a pointless case. "Oh look, LIES. And she won." Universal was listed in the lawsuit. Universal collects the fees for P's music. Universal went after a lot of people for putting music up on YOUTUBE. Please tell where the lie is? And yes she won but what did she win. Artist are now getting money from YOUTUBE so in the end they had to pay anyway. ----- "YOU said he's become "a better person". Now let's see: how many of his marriages failed since his conversion? And why would that be? I don't give a shit that he's fucking around, but unlike you I'm not pretending that Prince has become "a better person" -- something you can't know and something that is disproven by FACTS. " What facts do you have Bart? Do you have copies of the divorce papers? Where you in the room when the cheating was going on? Lots of marriages break up for all kinds of reasons. Chritians, Non-Belivers and anyone else can be divoreced it does not make anyone Satan sometime it means they do not want to be married anymore. Besides Tavis Smiley seems to think he is a nice person and P did take the time to correct him by letting him know he is still making an effort to be better.( this is a fact) I know that is not enough proof for you but that is what we have for now. ----- laurarichardson said: I am sure that like a lot of people you think all Christians have giant wings coming out of their backsides and therefore are not allowed to make mistakes. Well your wrong as a core tenet of Christianity is the fact that we all are sinners no one is perfect but all can be forgiven if you acknowledge your wrongs. Bart said Prince does? How would you know? Oh, and he's a JW. Judge him by the standards of the faith he chose, not the one that fits your already debunked theory. ---- Yes, Bart in the Tavis Smiley interview and in a few others P has said he has not always been a good person. Are you saying he is telling a lie and he really has been an angel all this time? Think for just one minute about that. ----- laurarichardson said: By P’s own interviews Which contain numerous lies. laurarichardson said: he has stated that he has not always been a good person, was immature, and was not respectful to woman. Those comments concerning his behavior are considered acknowledgement of bad behavior. By the comments from some of his associates he has mellowed out over the last decade. ----- You have no possible way of knowing that P is lying about his past behavior. Why in God's green earth would he lie about being an asshole. In addtion, Sheila E and Mavis Staple have both had good things to say about him in the last few years. I think you see and hear what you want and claim to have all the facts and insider info yet you never really tell us how you know these things. | |
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laurarichardson said: KoolEaze said: So true. Great post. He is his own worst enemy and his antics are not only damaging his popularity among his longtime fans but also demolishing his legacy bit by bit. ----- What drama. Looks like his most recent show sold pretty well so it seems that causal fans will keep P's legacy going. Some of his essential albums are out of print and probably will remain so,some other albums ( his single album deals with Universal and Sony ) will not be re-released, his most important albums are a sonic nightmare ( SOTT, for example, sounds very thin in CD format and needs remastering), his self-censorship ruins some of his trademark songs and probably puts the Vault in jeopardy since he could erase old material for containing too much profanity, the way he treats his fans makes a lot of fans lose interest in his music and recent career ( among them even people who have contributed a lot of time and energy into fan websites, magazines, books, etc.). His behaviour even alienates most of his old bandmembers (ask Wendy and Lisa, Eric Leeds, etc.etc.).The younger generation either doesn´t know him or doesn´t give a shit about him and his current sound, his shows have turned into some retro old school funk and soul revue that reminds me of a jukebox that keeps playing the same tired songs when in fact his own back catalogue is so huge that there´s no need for all those covers he´s doing, I could go on and on. Keep in mind that most of the constructive criticism by members of this site is based on a deep apprecitation for the man and his music and what he´s capable of. If you want him to end like some of those that came before him, like a tragic caricature of his former self,than that´s fine. But those who disagree with you should feel free to voice their opinion. But argueing with you is futile, so I´ll rest my case. No matter what you say or write, Prince is sooooo not gonna have sex with you. Or maybe YOU ARE Prince, defending every single mistake the man makes. I wonder what drives you, what is your motivation and reasoning behind defending even the silliest things? " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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Well, he was mind-blowing a few weeks ago at the Koko, London. The place was packed and loving it, so people care about him here and are still very interested.
It was one of the best gigs I've ever seen and I've seen a few. If you miss him you are just being a bit of a knob really. But there are plenty of tools out there so good luck to all you bellends. | |
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OperatingThetan said: Well, he was mind-blowing a few weeks ago at the Koko, London. The place was packed and loving it, so people care about him here and are still very interested.
It was one of the best gigs I've ever seen and I've seen a few. If you miss him you are just being a bit of a knob really. But there are plenty of tools out there so good luck to all you bellends. Was the show different from the ones he did as a supporting act for Prince? For instance, was the setlist different? " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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laurarichardson said: Graycap23 said: Compared 2 Mint Condition in 2010? NO. Mint is going 2 ROCK the joint. [Edited 5/20/10 14:01pm] ----- Larry has received some really good reviews from his recent shows so I kind of think that everyone is going to be good and P put this line up together for a reason. Anywsy should be a great show and I wish I could go. Trust me, the new 'GCS' is enough to put Prince to the test. seriously. Larry is reinvigorated and playing a new setlist. He is also bloody nice and accessible. This 'Larry brainwashes helpless Prince' theory is getting old. It is almost an F-ing conspiracy theory now. Larry has been touring successfully without Prince. Larry's forthcoming album is independent of Prince. Larry has nothing to do with Prince's behaviour. He allows filming and photographs of concerts, signs, meets-and-greets. In short, spends a lot of time and effort with his fans. I love Prince but Larry has no more influence over his behaviour (i.e back to the stage, lawsuits etc) than anyone else who is his friend or in close vicinity. Religiously, Larry has no authority over Prince. Eddie Murphy is one of Larry Graham's best friends and he sure as hell has never converted to Jehovah's Witnesses. It is Prince's responsibility. Full-stop. | |
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KoolEaze said: OperatingThetan said: Well, he was mind-blowing a few weeks ago at the Koko, London. The place was packed and loving it, so people care about him here and are still very interested.
It was one of the best gigs I've ever seen and I've seen a few. If you miss him you are just being a bit of a knob really. But there are plenty of tools out there so good luck to all you bellends. Was the show different from the ones he did as a supporting act for Prince? For instance, was the setlist different? Roughly this, but I'm missing some: We've Been Waiting Entrow People Love and Happiness If you want me to stay Hair Feel the Need I can't Stand the Rain It's Alright The Jam Earthquake/Imagettin Family Affair Everyday People Dance to the Music Hot fun in the Summertime Thankyouforletinbemicelfagin The Jam Larry was better at Koko than he was with Prince. Looks like GCS and Prince will be distinct at the forthcoming shows. If Larry has his own choice over the setlist it should be good, but in London he played for around 2 hours and 40 minutes (followed by a meet-and-greet), so I guess he won't have as much time for all these songs. | |
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KoolEaze said: laurarichardson said: ----- What drama. Looks like his most recent show sold pretty well so it seems that causal fans will keep P's legacy going. Some of his essential albums are out of print and probably will remain so,some other albums ( his single album deals with Universal and Sony ) will not be re-released, his most important albums are a sonic nightmare ( SOTT, for example, sounds very thin in CD format and needs remastering), his self-censorship ruins some of his trademark songs and probably puts the Vault in jeopardy since he could erase old material for containing too much profanity, the way he treats his fans makes a lot of fans lose interest in his music and recent career ( among them even people who have contributed a lot of time and energy into fan websites, magazines, books, etc.). His behaviour even alienates most of his old bandmembers (ask Wendy and Lisa, Eric Leeds, etc.etc.).The younger generation either doesn´t know him or doesn´t give a shit about him and his current sound, his shows have turned into some retro old school funk and soul revue that reminds me of a jukebox that keeps playing the same tired songs when in fact his own back catalogue is so huge that there´s no need for all those covers he´s doing, I could go on and on. Keep in mind that most of the constructive criticism by members of this site is based on a deep apprecitation for the man and his music and what he´s capable of. If you want him to end like some of those that came before him, like a tragic caricature of his former self,than that´s fine. But those who disagree with you should feel free to voice their opinion. But argueing with you is futile, so I´ll rest my case. No matter what you say or write, Prince is sooooo not gonna have sex with you. Or maybe YOU ARE Prince, defending every single mistake the man makes. I wonder what drives you, what is your motivation and reasoning behind defending even the silliest things? ----- "The younger generation either doesn´t know him or doesn´t give a shit about him and his current sound, his shows have turned into some retro old school funk and soul revue that reminds me of a jukebox that keeps playing the same tired songs when in fact his own back catalogue is so huge that there´s no need for all those covers he´s doing, I could go on and on. " ----- Every time I see Prince in concert I am amazed at the number of young people in attendance but you go ahead and see what you want to see. In addition, I am sure at some point the WB stuff is going to re-mastered and I doubt the delay has anything to do with P-self censorship but more to do with money and the terrible state that the music industry is in. "But argueing with you is futile, so I´ll rest my case. No matter what you say or write, Prince is sooooo not gonna have sex with you. Or maybe YOU ARE Prince, defending every single mistake the man makes. I wonder what drives you, what is your motivation and reasoning behind defending even the silliest things?" Wow dude I use to think you said some things that made sense but your comments above are ignorant and simple minded and not worth commenting on. What a sad disturbed person who has no idea how to agree to disagree. Perhaps one day adult and intelligent people will return to this board. | |
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laurarichardson said: KoolEaze said: Some of his essential albums are out of print and probably will remain so,some other albums ( his single album deals with Universal and Sony ) will not be re-released, his most important albums are a sonic nightmare ( SOTT, for example, sounds very thin in CD format and needs remastering), his self-censorship ruins some of his trademark songs and probably puts the Vault in jeopardy since he could erase old material for containing too much profanity, the way he treats his fans makes a lot of fans lose interest in his music and recent career ( among them even people who have contributed a lot of time and energy into fan websites, magazines, books, etc.). His behaviour even alienates most of his old bandmembers (ask Wendy and Lisa, Eric Leeds, etc.etc.).The younger generation either doesn´t know him or doesn´t give a shit about him and his current sound, his shows have turned into some retro old school funk and soul revue that reminds me of a jukebox that keeps playing the same tired songs when in fact his own back catalogue is so huge that there´s no need for all those covers he´s doing, I could go on and on. Keep in mind that most of the constructive criticism by members of this site is based on a deep apprecitation for the man and his music and what he´s capable of. If you want him to end like some of those that came before him, like a tragic caricature of his former self,than that´s fine. But those who disagree with you should feel free to voice their opinion. But argueing with you is futile, so I´ll rest my case. No matter what you say or write, Prince is sooooo not gonna have sex with you. Or maybe YOU ARE Prince, defending every single mistake the man makes. I wonder what drives you, what is your motivation and reasoning behind defending even the silliest things? ----- "The younger generation either doesn´t know him or doesn´t give a shit about him and his current sound, his shows have turned into some retro old school funk and soul revue that reminds me of a jukebox that keeps playing the same tired songs when in fact his own back catalogue is so huge that there´s no need for all those covers he´s doing, I could go on and on. " ----- Every time I see Prince in concert I am amazed at the number of young people in attendance but you go ahead and see what you want to see. In addition, I am sure at some point the WB stuff is going to re-mastered and I doubt the delay has anything to do with P-self censorship but more to do with money and the terrible state that the music industry is in. "But argueing with you is futile, so I´ll rest my case. No matter what you say or write, Prince is sooooo not gonna have sex with you. Or maybe YOU ARE Prince, defending every single mistake the man makes. I wonder what drives you, what is your motivation and reasoning behind defending even the silliest things?" Wow dude I use to think you said some things that made sense but your comments above are ignorant and simple minded and not worth commenting on. What a sad disturbed person who has no idea how to agree to disagree. Perhaps one day adult and intelligent people will return to this board. Wow, dudette! Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with me, most of my posts still make sense. And who the fuck are you to judge? I can still agree or disagree with your posts ( most of the time I don´t). However, I never resort to name calling the way you do, I never call people "disturbed" or "sad" or whatever. I bet you are Prince.
Look at your post and think again. I don´t take people like you seriously. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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KoolEaze said: laurarichardson said: ----- "The younger generation either doesn´t know him or doesn´t give a shit about him and his current sound, his shows have turned into some retro old school funk and soul revue that reminds me of a jukebox that keeps playing the same tired songs when in fact his own back catalogue is so huge that there´s no need for all those covers he´s doing, I could go on and on. " ----- Every time I see Prince in concert I am amazed at the number of young people in attendance but you go ahead and see what you want to see. In addition, I am sure at some point the WB stuff is going to re-mastered and I doubt the delay has anything to do with P-self censorship but more to do with money and the terrible state that the music industry is in. "But argueing with you is futile, so I´ll rest my case. No matter what you say or write, Prince is sooooo not gonna have sex with you. Or maybe YOU ARE Prince, defending every single mistake the man makes. I wonder what drives you, what is your motivation and reasoning behind defending even the silliest things?" Wow dude I use to think you said some things that made sense but your comments above are ignorant and simple minded and not worth commenting on. What a sad disturbed person who has no idea how to agree to disagree. Perhaps one day adult and intelligent people will return to this board. Wow, dudette! Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with me, most of my posts still make sense. And who the fuck are you to judge? I can still agree or disagree with your posts ( most of the time I don´t). However, I never resort to name calling the way you do, I never call people "disturbed" or "sad" or whatever. I bet you are Prince.
Look at your post and think again. I don´t take people like you seriously. ----- You think I am Prince and you don't think you are sad and disturbed.  | |
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laurarichardson said: KoolEaze said: Wow, dudette! Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with me, most of my posts still make sense. And who the fuck are you to judge? I can still agree or disagree with your posts ( most of the time I don´t). However, I never resort to name calling the way you do, I never call people "disturbed" or "sad" or whatever. I bet you are Prince.
Look at your post and think again. I don´t take people like you seriously. ----- You think I am Prince and you don't think you are sad and disturbed. I'm disturbed by his(?) creepy sig line. Quoting Mike Tyson and using 'licky licky' at the same time....ewwwww! | |
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Who fucking cares.
Stop taking this shit so seriously. You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam! | |
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Serena said: laurarichardson said: ----- You think I am Prince and you don't think you are sad and disturbed. I'm disturbed by his(?) creepy sig line. Quoting Mike Tyson and using 'licky licky' at the same time....ewwwww! You´re breaking my heart girl. I´m going to change that sig. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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ernestsewell said: He's not a better person for his JW stance. He puts across this act of not cursing, and changing his lyrics from "Sexuality" to "Spirituality", then acts like a sinner the other six days a week. Ernest how would U know what Prince is doing six days a week or even try to claim that U do? Yes, there is a world outside prince.org (small p, on purpose by Ben), and it's the hard core fans that aren't blind to the reality and truth about Prince.  And I am a hard core fan so I'd like to let U know that your 'reality and truth'..... about what U perceive to be the 'truth' .....does NOT make it the TRUTH.
You can rant all day about how people are haters or naysayers, but for someone who calls themselves a Prince fan, and Prince is supposed to be all about the truth, it's a bit ironic that half the Prince fans out there ignore the truth about Prince himself. Maybe there are those who think differently than U, does that make them 'wrong?' Each person is a collection of their own unique experiences in life which makes them who they are. Depending on the situations they've encountered and what they've lived through, each individual owns their own 'truth.' Have U ever heard the saying about someone who assumes they know exactly what's going on? The best way to be sure that U know what U are talking about or thinking is to have a direct conversation with the person. Stick around for a few days right next to them before assuming anything. Please don't sit around making judgments about Prince, Believe me, there's more than meets the  | |
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colorblu said: how would U know what Prince is doing six days a week or even try to claim that U do?
Believe me, there's more than meets the eye You just became #1 hypocrite. | |
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ernestsewell said: colorblu said: how would U know what Prince is doing six days a week or even try to claim that U do?
Believe me, there's more than meets the eye You just became #1 hypocrite.  How does stating that fact make me a hypocrite? I do not claim to know what Prince is doing every day of the week. I do not know Prince and I make a habit of giving a benefit of a doubt to anyone whose shoes I have not walked in.
My own experiences have led me to the Truth (for me) that most situations that one is not a partner to, can not be fairly judged from an outside view. It's okay to call me whatever U like, U don't know me. Until U do, everything that U say about me needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Those who want to believe that U are an expert on Prince's personal life are entitled to do that. I just happen to be one of those who does not feel the need to agree with some of the things U post. I hope that U have a great day Ernest, and I hope that those who love Prince music can share positive reasons why instead of bashing someone they don't know.      | |
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beener04 said: honestly i don't get all the hate.
larry joined prince on stage at paisley park in october and it was fantastic. i didn't hear any preaching about religion, all i heard was funky, outstanding music. now, prince, please show up at the zoo with larry. it will be entirely unexpected and REALLY AWESOME if you did!  Wouldn't that be Excellent?
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KoolEaze said: Serena said: I'm disturbed by his(?) creepy sig line. Quoting Mike Tyson and using 'licky licky' at the same time....ewwwww! You´re breaking my heart girl. I´m going to change that sig. Thanks, it was SUPER CREEPY!!! 
But I like Laura's posts most of the time, so you should get back in her good graces. She's got balls and isn't afraid to stand up to the jerks around here. | |
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Serena said: KoolEaze said: You´re breaking my heart girl. I´m going to change that sig. Thanks, it was SUPER CREEPY!!!
But I like Laura's posts most of the time, so you should get back in her good graces. She's got balls and isn't afraid to stand up to the jerks around here. I (and many other orgers) didn´t really think it was creepy at all. An inside joke, yes, but not that creepy. Prince has written much creepier lyrics and you never seemed to mind. I have no problem with Laura but if you dish out, you have to be able to take it in sometimes, and I disagree with the way she words things sometimes and I also have a problem with those who never see any flaws in Prince´s actions. Believe me, if Prince had more people like Ernest, Bart,Langebleu, Boris, Unique and Squirellgrease in his camp, then he´d be at a whole different place in this stage of his career and life. Constructive criticism is, IMO, part of a friendship, fanship or even love, whatever you call it. But I digress. Larry for sure is funky. And I like his older material, in fact I own a couple of his old masterpieces. Shall we talk about Larry again ?  " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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OperatingThetan said: KoolEaze said: Was the show different from the ones he did as a supporting act for Prince? For instance, was the setlist different? Roughly this, but I'm missing some: We've Been Waiting Entrow People Love and Happiness If you want me to stay Hair Feel the Need I can't Stand the Rain It's Alright The Jam Earthquake/Imagettin Family Affair Everyday People Dance to the Music Hot fun in the Summertime Thankyouforletinbemicelfagin The Jam One the one hand: it's good that there's someone around to play Sly music the proper way (while Sly is disrespecting his own legacy). But on the other hand: sheesh, isn't it sad that Larry is stuck playing music that's 40 years old? © Bart Van Hemelen
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