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Thread started 04/08/10 12:25pm

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DEZ DICKERSON

Why is he never shown any appreacition around here?? I think he was Princes best guitarist during the Revolution days(and hottest band member in the group too love )





idk just a little appreaction thread i guess boxed
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Reply #1 posted 04/08/10 1:17pm

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I've managed to find the 1st CD of his 80's retrospective (Modernaire era) and it's great, i wish i could put my hands on the 2nd one!
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Reply #2 posted 04/08/10 1:25pm

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Dez is that dude 2 me. Don't get me wrong, I love Wendy, Levi, Miko, Mike Scott, etc. Dez is slept on. I love what Dez brought 2 Prince's career, early on. Dez's influence on Prince was a strong one. He brought the rock flavor 2 Prince's music and co-wrote some great songs. Cool cuts with Jamie Starr* like 'Wild and Loose', 'Cool', 'He's So Dull' and 'Hi School' and his influence on the hit '777-9311' made it known why he became a key part in Prince's earliar career musically. He's participated in the classic Prince and The Revolution cuts like '1999' and his amazing guitar work on 'Little Red Corvette'. He's one of the great collaborators that helped take Prince's music 2 the next level. He even made a classic cut of his own with 'Modernaire' with The Modernaires in 1984. I'm still waiting on the release of the extended version of that song. I bet it's amazing. Hey, u've heard it from me first!! Dez's music is cool also, 'Modernaire' was just a sample of what he was gonna put out back in 1984.
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Reply #3 posted 04/08/10 2:06pm

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I have the 2nd album. There are a few tracks on it I like. It "feels" different but it rocks.
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Reply #4 posted 04/08/10 11:45pm

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He looks handsome in that pic. He's so gorgeous in the LRC and 1999 vids. Love the sound of his voice. Awesome guitarist. I don't think he or Bobby Z are talked about much. Mostly them NPG folk and upward.
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Reply #5 posted 04/09/10 9:08am

Aaron6

Dez, is a incredible talent, just check out any of the concerts from the 1999/controversy era...side note, I watched several of the 1999 shows last summer on the net, and I must say I like those shows better than the Purple Rain tour...the 1999 tour was the last time prince was PRINCE, especially the Minneapolis show! :>)
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Reply #6 posted 04/09/10 2:49pm

Zannaloaf

He's a great guitarist and a super nice guy. I got to catch him opening for Billy Idol back in the day- that was AMAZING!
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Reply #7 posted 04/09/10 4:56pm

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The whole Dez Dickerson story is about not getting the props he deserved. He couldnt get a contract back after leaving the Revolution - and he certainly deserved one when you consider some of the acts that got one in the early 80s. Then again he was a black rock artist at the time - there was pretty much only Prince back then. Fishbone was almost completely underground. Living Colour and Lenny Kravitz had not even hit yet.

Dez has never gotten the right amount of credit and respect because he was denied solid solo career after Prince. He was only the second band member to strike out on his own (after Cymone). Andre was clever and didn't stray far from what Prince was doing so, like every Prince spin off, he was able to capitalize on the Mpls sound. Aside from Modernaire - which he did with Prince - Dez struck out into uncharted waters: playing hard rock and being black. It took some courage and originality. He could have stayed with the funk that the record industry wanted black artists to play - like fellow black guitar ace Jesse Johnson did when he left the comfort of Paisley Park. That would have been safer and easier. But I admire the fact that he insisted on rock. He went on to open for Billy Idol instead. Back in those days, facing a white rock audience was not for the faint of heart if you had black skin - we all know what happened to Prince when he opened for the Stones in the early 80s.

Seek out OneMan, Dez's first solo album. It's some good rock and you can hear again why he is the best guitarist Prince ever had and probably the most pivotal collaborator and band member.
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Reply #8 posted 04/09/10 6:42pm

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Dez was a decent guitarist, I'll give him that.
But hot? feeling ill
batting eyes ACRYLIC batting eyes
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Reply #9 posted 04/10/10 10:34am

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Brofie said:

The whole Dez Dickerson story is about not getting the props he deserved. He couldn't get a contract back after leaving the Revolution - and he certainly deserved one when you consider some of the acts that got one in the early 80s. Then again he was a black rock artist at the time - there was pretty much only Prince back then. Fishbone was almost completely underground. Living Colour and Lenny Kravitz had not even hit yet.

Dez has never gotten the right amount of credit and respect because he was denied solid solo career after Prince. He was only the second band member to strike out on his own (after Cymone). Andre was clever and didn't stray far from what Prince was doing so, like every Prince spin off, he was able to capitalize on the Mpls sound. Aside from Modernaire - which he did with Prince - Dez struck out into uncharted waters: playing hard rock and being black. It took some courage and originality. He could have stayed with the funk that the record industry wanted black artists to play - like fellow black guitar ace Jesse Johnson did when he left the comfort of Paisley Park. That would have been safer and easier. But I admire the fact that he insisted on rock. He went on to open for Billy Idol instead. Back in those days, facing a white rock audience was not for the faint of heart if you had black skin - we all know what happened to Prince when he opened for the Stones in the early 80s.

Seek out OneMan, Dez's first solo album. It's some good rock and you can hear again why he is the best guitarist Prince ever had and probably the most pivotal collaborator and band member.


So true ... Dez is a talent all to himself. It wasn't in the cards for him to "make it". Yes, he could have been where Lenny Kravitz is today but there were a lot of artist who were like Dez and unlike Dez and it was just a sign 'o' the times how he couldn't get a deal. It's a damn shame if you ask me but he still treks on. OneMan is a decent album with a some great tracks.
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Reply #10 posted 04/12/10 11:12am

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Acrylic said:

Dez was a decent guitarist, I'll give him that.
But hot? feeling ill



visually I see what you see; I always thought he was skanky looking in a David Lee Roth sort of way. Since everyone seems to agree that he is a nice guy, I am glad that he has plenty of attention from the ladies who see things I can not.


Has anybody read his book? Is it worth getting? I think, since he knew Prince when Prince was getting hotter and hotter by the minute, it might be quite interesting.
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Reply #11 posted 04/12/10 1:46pm

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Deadflow3r said:

Acrylic said:

Dez was a decent guitarist, I'll give him that.
But hot? feeling ill


visually I see what you see; I always thought he was skanky looking in a David Lee Roth sort of way. Since everyone seems to agree that he is a nice guy, I am glad that he has plenty of attention from the ladies who see things I can not.



Now, Andre Cymone or Jesse Johnson on the other hand...

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Reply #12 posted 04/12/10 1:52pm

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Deadflow3r said:

Acrylic said:

Dez was a decent guitarist, I'll give him that.
But hot? feeling ill



visually I see what you see; I always thought he was skanky looking in a David Lee Roth sort of way. Since everyone seems to agree that he is a nice guy, I am glad that he has plenty of attention from the ladies who see things I can not.


Has anybody read his book? Is it worth getting? I think, since he knew Prince when Prince was getting hotter and hotter by the minute, it might be quite interesting.



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Reply #13 posted 04/13/10 11:55pm

dandeeland

Dez was the man!! I wish he still played with Prince
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Reply #14 posted 04/14/10 12:31am

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Dez is cool but his lack of musical output is his achilles heel.
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Reply #15 posted 04/14/10 11:32am

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What do you all think are the songs that Dez played on that really showed off his style and talent?
If I were to buy one of his solo acts what one would it be?
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Reply #16 posted 04/14/10 3:51pm

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Deadflow3r said:

What do you all think are the songs that Dez played on that really showed off his style and talent?
If I were to buy one of his solo acts what one would it be?


Get OneMan - his first and only real solo album. He shows plenty of chops on that record. There is a compilation of religious rock called Best of Christian #1 Radio Hits, Vol. 1 with some solid tracks by Dez.
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Reply #17 posted 04/14/10 6:28pm

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dandeeland said:

Dez was the man!! I wish he still played with Prince

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Reply #18 posted 04/14/10 6:46pm

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dandeeland said:

Dez was the man!! I wish he still played with Prince


that would be so awesome to see those two on stage again epic! excited
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Reply #19 posted 04/15/10 12:51pm

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Brofie said:

Deadflow3r said:

What do you all think are the songs that Dez played on that really showed off his style and talent?
If I were to buy one of his solo acts what one would it be?


Get OneMan - his first and only real solo album. He shows plenty of chops on that record. There is a compilation of religious rock called Best of Christian #1 Radio Hits, Vol. 1 with some solid tracks by Dez.



Thanks for the info. I will look into it. Of all of Prince's early albums, what one do you think you can truly hear Dez's contribution in such a way that when others after him play the same songs it isn't quite as good?
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Reply #20 posted 04/15/10 12:52pm

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PurpleDiamond2009 said:

dandeeland said:

Dez was the man!! I wish he still played with Prince


that would be so awesome to see those two on stage again epic! excited



Prince still has an open door policy with Wendy and Lisa and they have spoken about him. I can't see why not Dez, but then Dez would have to make the first move I think, and what would be his motive?
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Reply #21 posted 04/15/10 1:22pm

lipstick

Was Modernaire released as a single? If it wasn't it shoulda been. I liked it when I heard it in Purple Rain.
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Reply #22 posted 04/15/10 2:53pm

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lipstick said:

Was Modernaire released as a single? If it wasn't it shoulda been. I liked it when I heard it in Purple Rain.


I think it was..Modernaire is an amazing song, classic 80's stuff smile
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Reply #23 posted 04/17/10 1:17pm

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Have any of you read Dez' book? It's pretty awesome for people like us. And it gives some insight into what his contribution was from the beginning through the 1999 tour. I got a chance to meet him at a book signing at SXSW in Austin in 2009. A very cool and humble dude.
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Reply #24 posted 04/17/10 6:56pm

Mong

I'm still waiting for it to arrive. The projected delivery date is March 3, 2034.
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Reply #25 posted 04/17/10 8:20pm

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Mong said:

I'm still waiting for it to arrive. The projected delivery date is March 3, 2034.


lol
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Reply #26 posted 04/19/10 5:11am

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His first book is the definite Prince book - the only one written by someone who was there and had a first hand perspective from the start.
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Reply #27 posted 04/19/10 6:01am

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Brofie said:

His first book is the definite Prince book - the only one written by someone who was there and had a first hand perspective from the start.


How is it that Dez gets respect as "there first hand" when everyone like to throw rocks at anything Wendy and Lisa have to say about their experience with Prince? Lisa was there even longer than Dez, but somehow manage to diss their experience. Just sayin'.

PS- I'm not saying Dez SHOULDN'T get that respect, I think it just needs to be equal among all people who worked with Prince, especially early on. And this is not an invitation to a discussion who was more "relevant" in the band. I'm just curious what the difference is.
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Reply #28 posted 04/19/10 6:45am

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Zannaloaf said:

Brofie said:

His first book is the definite Prince book - the only one written by someone who was there and had a first hand perspective from the start.


How is it that Dez gets respect as "there first hand" when everyone like to throw rocks at anything Wendy and Lisa have to say about their experience with Prince? Lisa was there even longer than Dez, but somehow manage to diss their experience. Just sayin'.

PS- I'm not saying Dez SHOULDN'T get that respect, I think it just needs to be equal among all people who worked with Prince, especially early on. And this is not an invitation to a discussion who was more "relevant" in the band. I'm just curious what the difference is.


Lisa didn't join the band until 1980. Dez was there longer. You must be thinking of Prince's first female keyboard player Gayle Chapman.
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Reply #29 posted 04/19/10 6:54am

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therat said:

Zannaloaf said:



How is it that Dez gets respect as "there first hand" when everyone like to throw rocks at anything Wendy and Lisa have to say about their experience with Prince? Lisa was there even longer than Dez, but somehow manage to diss their experience. Just sayin'.

PS- I'm not saying Dez SHOULDN'T get that respect, I think it just needs to be equal among all people who worked with Prince, especially early on. And this is not an invitation to a discussion who was more "relevant" in the band. I'm just curious what the difference is.


Lisa didn't join the band until 1980. Dez was there longer. You must be thinking of Prince's first female keyboard player Gayle Chapman.


Thanks - knowing what the hell you are talking about is still a virtue in this world of the uninformed.
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