dandeeland said:

It's happening. It's a slow process because Paul works. Gotta pay the bills. He tours with Kenny Loggins, and Oleta Adams. Sometimes that obviously punches into his Fdeluxe time, but he does work on the album a bit on the road, and Susannah does the same thing. (They are both producers on the album.) We've waited this long, we can wait a few more months. My hope, and belief, is that it will be done this year.

errant said:

Firstly - how do you know they had no input? Part of the "sound" is how Paul and Sus's voice work together. Part of it is Eric's horn - and I believe he did those parts himself. Secondly - I've heard two tracks, and so far I hear them creating that sound with an updated feel and strong writing and playing. So why not? I guess the opposite question is why you would assume it wouldn't be- especially if your exposure to any of their solo stuff is 25 years old.

Zannaloaf said:

what, you haven't heard the stories about how Prince made Paul sing the songs just like him?

second, if you keep reading, you'll see that I have had exposure to their solo stuff. Paul's and Eric's, at least. it really does nothing for me at all.

as far as their new stuff as F Deluxe, I'm not really sure why I'm supposed to be all excited about it in the first place? their only album perviously was a Prince album in everything but name and clearly this one is not. I'm not saying I won't like it. But based on that fact and that I'm not excited about their solo work, I don't know why I'm supposed to be jumping up and down for joy about them doing something new. I might like it, I might not. But my expectations for it are zilch.

errant said:

Oh boy.

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Zannaloaf said:

Yeah, I wasn't holding out too much hope either till I heard the rough cut for @8. It seems to me that they are really trying to emulate what someone called "the Classic Family sound" but it sounds pretty fresh.

Obviously this new Family record will be a good part nostalgia. I don't think that anyone other than pretty serious P fans will end up buying it anyways. As for not liking St. Paul's solo stuff, come on, EVERYBODY loves Rich Man ha ha ha.

Quit fighting on the threads you'all. Share the

ernestsewell said:

that's actually a good thing, don't you think? i'll be more easily impressed if it's good.

errant said:

who asked you to jump up and down? My point was that you were judging based on material from 25 years ago. I also pointed out Prince was not alone in creating the sound. That was all.

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Zannaloaf said:

you asked why I assumed it wouldn't be. based on the fact that the only thing we've heard from them as a group is an album written, produced, and practically performed by Prince 25 years ago. none of those elements are here. why WOULD i be interested? just because it's Paul and Susannah and Eric? it might be wonderful, but I have absolutely no basis to care until I hear it, if I even bother at all.

errant said:

St Paul had a song on the soundtrack for the first Ninja Turtles movie.

Nikademus said:

there you go.

Nikademus said:

Okay? Every song needs a home.


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Nikademus said:

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is the Citizen Kane of rubber-suited Testudines-with-karate-skills films.

errant said:

then don't. Jesus. Dead horse beating is a passion of so many people on this board.

ernestsewell said:

Not saying it's a bad thing, I actually liked that album at the time

squirrelgrease said:

Exactly! Isn't it still one of the most successful indie movies of all time?

Nikademus said:

There was actually humor in my response. Remember the title of the St. Paul's song?

ernestsewell said:

LOL yeah

ernestsewell said:

I have great expectations for this album, it sounds like it's gonna be great!

Now i have to admit that i was really wondering WHY they do it: they never really were a band except for a photo session, the filming of a video, a few rehearsals and one concert, and i just couldn't see any other reason than fun and maybe earn a little money out of it. Now anything involving Eric has to be just great!

I can't understand either why Prince wouldn't let them use the name, but in a sense it's more logical that they take another name since they compose new material and go beyond the nostalgia trip: The Family was Prince. F-Deluxe is Paul, Susannah, Eric, Jellybean & Jerome. Now the question is, since Miko lives in Spain: WHO's gonna play the guitar?

It would be fun if they toured with C.O.E.D. & The Time
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squirrelgrease said:

Who's playing on it?

databank said:

St. Paul has one CD left. But it's really expensive.

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/mnallstars

St. Paul - lead vocals and bass (www.StPaulMusic.com)
Ricky Peterson - keys and vocals (www.RickyPeterson.com)
Eric Leeds - sax
Dave Berry - guitar
Bobby Vandell - drums
Steve Raitte - vocals
Jason Peterson - background vocals
Robert "Cubby Colby" - live engineer
Tom Tucker - mixing engineer

My thoughts are that we'll be lucky to see the album this year. I hope we will,
but honestly I'm not banking on it anymore, especially now that he and his
brothers have formed a band and will be touring the globe as well

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squirrelgrease said:

Thanks and yeah, too expensive for me

Cha know, they should have just called this St. Paul, Susannah and The Family.

F Deluxe sounds like a branded product, ya know such as wallpaper or toilet tissue. They should have kept their original name and told Prince to' Take legal action, go ahead see if we care!'

lipstick said:

I doubt they can/want to spend thousands of $ in expensive Hollywood lawyers. They'd lose more money out of this than whatever they'll earn with the new album

And besides, don't forget that the 5 of them all basically owe their whole career as it is to Prince, not to mention that Paul let the whole project down back in 1985 (so he kind of owes one to Prince in this case)... I'm not saying none of them would ever have achieved anything, but it's likely that they wouldn't have done as many things and earned as much money if The Time, The Family, The Revolution and Prince hadn't been on their resumes. Therefore it wouldn't be fair to do it if P. doesn't want them to, no matter how silly and unjustified it is that he doesn't.

lipstick said:

Ya know, I bet they'd win case for sure. Unless of course Prince had them sign some sort of non compete agreement back in the day. P didn't make Vanity change her name, and The Family 2.0 seemed fine. This whole thing is silly

Wildboy said:

isn't there also the fact that if you don't actively use a trademark, your claim to it expires after a certain amount of time? and I don't remember Puff Daddy running into any trouble for using the name back during one of Prince's especially litigious moods.

databank said:

Because Prince is the type who hold grudges if he felt someone did him wrong. I think Wendy or Lisa or one of them said on their twitter while back that Paul and Prince had barely spoken to each other for the last 25 years. perhaps prince is still mad of how Paul balked out of the band.

Wildboy said:

Ever go through a litigation with someone known to be vengeful and have a stable of lawyers?
Didn't think so.

@ladygirl. 25 years later Prince can't get over that a band who he never let go on the road broke up cause they were tired of sitting in their over-rehearsed asses in Chanhassen?
Isn't there a point in time some therapy might come in handy?