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Thread started 02/23/10 9:57am

Brofie

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Musicology band was the best Prince band ever

I went to four f the gigs on that tour. My first Prince show was in 1982 and I have seen every tour that was in the US since. THis band is better than any configuration of the NPG or the REvolution. John Blackwell alone increases the talent level of the band beyiond anything that Prince had onstage with him before or since.
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Reply #1 posted 02/23/10 10:39am

funksterr

Brofie said:

I went to four f the gigs on that tour. My first Prince show was in 1982 and I have seen every tour that was in the US since. THis band is better than any configuration of the NPG or the REvolution. John Blackwell alone increases the talent level of the band beyiond anything that Prince had onstage with him before or since.


Ok, when you are calling out the drummer as being the most talented in the band I've got to laugh. Blackwell doesn't make or break any band. No drummer ever does in a rock/funk band. Prince isn't playing anything complex enough to need a GREAT drummer and for me Blackwell is too busy. Not bad because what he's doing barely matters anyhow, just a little too active. As for the rest of The Musicology "band", it was all show. They contributed exactly nothing in the studio, so they can't touch the 80's and 90's bands.
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Reply #2 posted 02/23/10 10:58am

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'Cept that John is off tempo a fair amount - heard it back when he was with Cameo - and heard it on a few of Prince's gigs.. He has good chops, but straight up drumming Bland has him beat. Of course we're talking amazing drummers to amazing drummers here. I think his strongest band was gold era. I love Rhonda's playing, but Sonny tore the bass a new one. The all around sound was better too - and that has nothing to do with individual components..it's just how it clicks.
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Reply #3 posted 02/23/10 5:34pm

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funksterr said:

Brofie said:

I went to four f the gigs on that tour. My first Prince show was in 1982 and I have seen every tour that was in the US since. THis band is better than any configuration of the NPG or the REvolution. John Blackwell alone increases the talent level of the band beyiond anything that Prince had onstage with him before or since.


Ok, when you are calling out the drummer as being the most talented in the band I've got to laugh. Blackwell doesn't make or break any band. No drummer ever does in a rock/funk band. Prince isn't playing anything complex enough to need a GREAT drummer and for me Blackwell is too busy. Not bad because what he's doing barely matters anyhow, just a little too active. As for the rest of The Musicology "band", it was all show. They contributed exactly nothing in the studio, so they can't touch the 80's and 90's bands.


Read my post again but this time slow down and sound out the words. YOu will see that I didnt call the drummer the most talented in the band. Thats something you invented for the basis of your egocentric pontification. Do so at your own expense.
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Reply #4 posted 02/23/10 9:40pm

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Brofie said:

funksterr said:



Ok, when you are calling out the drummer as being the most talented in the band I've got to laugh. Blackwell doesn't make or break any band. No drummer ever does in a rock/funk band. Prince isn't playing anything complex enough to need a GREAT drummer and for me Blackwell is too busy. Not bad because what he's doing barely matters anyhow, just a little too active. As for the rest of The Musicology "band", it was all show. They contributed exactly nothing in the studio, so they can't touch the 80's and 90's bands.


Read my post again but this time slow down and sound out the words. YOu will see that I didnt call the drummer the most talented in the band. Thats something you invented for the basis of your egocentric pontification. Do so at your own expense.
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OK, so I guess you realize that your original post was a ridiculous claim so now you are down to nit-picking my response. Why not tell us more about the great drumming that elevated the Musicology band to better than "anything Prince had onstage before or since"? biggrin
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Reply #5 posted 02/24/10 1:10am

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eek You've got to be kidding, right?
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Reply #6 posted 02/24/10 8:48am

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Prince yelled @ him in Seattle 4 falling "off tempo" in 2004!!!!!
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Reply #7 posted 02/24/10 8:53am

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IMO, the Musicology tour was the most uninspired concert by Prince I have ever seen...and I've seen a lot. They sound good for the most part, but they were just going through the motions.
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Reply #8 posted 02/24/10 12:09pm

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This Band is my favorite.

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Reply #9 posted 02/24/10 1:14pm

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yeahthat
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Reply #10 posted 02/24/10 1:55pm

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funksterr said:

Brofie said:



Read my post again but this time slow down and sound out the words. YOu will see that I didnt call the drummer the most talented in the band. Thats something you invented for the basis of your egocentric pontification. Do so at your own expense.
[Edited 2/23/10 17:36pm]

OK, so I guess you realize that your original post was a ridiculous claim so now you are down to nit-picking my response. Why not tell us more about the great drumming that elevated the Musicology band to better than "anything Prince had onstage before or since"? biggrin


Reduce yourself to attacking my opinion - I couldnt care less. I will, however, implore you to simply comprehend and reference it correctly in order to minimize your digression.
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Reply #11 posted 02/24/10 2:48pm

Zannaloaf

Brofie said:

funksterr said:


OK, so I guess you realize that your original post was a ridiculous claim so now you are down to nit-picking my response. Why not tell us more about the great drumming that elevated the Musicology band to better than "anything Prince had onstage before or since"? biggrin


Reduce yourself to attacking my opinion - I couldnt care less. I will, however, implore you to simply comprehend and reference it correctly in order to minimize your digression.


"John Blackwell alone increases the talent level of the band beyiond anything that Prince had onstage with him before or since."

So what DID you mean by this? It clearly seems that you are saying John Blackwell ALONE....etc. Perhaps if you would explain it further we can understand just what you meant whether we agree or not.
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Reply #12 posted 02/24/10 6:33pm

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Brofie said:

I went to four f the gigs on that tour. My first Prince show was in 1982 and I have seen every tour that was in the US since. THis band is better than any configuration of the NPG or the REvolution. John Blackwell alone increases the talent level of the band beyiond anything that Prince had onstage with him before or since.


The Revolution
then
The SOTT/Lovesexy lineup
then
All the others
When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #13 posted 02/24/10 6:54pm

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motherfunka said:

IMO, the Musicology tour was the most uninspired concert by Prince I have ever seen...and I've seen a lot. They sound good for the most part, but they were just going through the motions.


And that was my issue...sure, they had the chops but with the exception of Prince, none of their playing "moved" me.
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Reply #14 posted 02/24/10 7:38pm

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Zannaloaf said:

Brofie said:



Reduce yourself to attacking my opinion - I couldnt care less. I will, however, implore you to simply comprehend and reference it correctly in order to minimize your digression.


"John Blackwell alone increases the talent level of the band beyiond anything that Prince had onstage with him before or since."

So what DID you mean by this? It clearly seems that you are saying John Blackwell ALONE....etc. Perhaps if you would explain it further we can understand just what you meant whether we agree or not.


I cant help those you cant comprehend what I wrote. It is quite straightforward and simply written. I couldnt care less about changing the minds of stangers on the internet. They can have their opinions. There is no value to me in converting anyone - I am not Blackwell's agent. I just think he happened to be in the most talented lineup Prince ever had and he was the most remarkable player in that lineup. I think Bland was just as good - he just didnt have the band members that Blackwell had - I mean, lets face it: Tommy Barbarella was no Renato Neto. Thats my opinion and I am not changing it in response to some of the maliciously incorrect interpretations of my original post that some have left here. Some people will never be able to see past Wendy and Lisa so they will actually try to convince others that their version of the Revolution was the best - while those of us who saw Prince live several times BEFORE Purple Rain might understand that much of it is simply because they were in the movie and thus the most exposed and remembered.
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Reply #15 posted 02/25/10 1:42am

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SOTT/Lovesexy for me.

I loved the ONA band, but I didnt' think too much to them on the Musicology tour.

The Revolution in '86 were pretty fine too.
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Reply #16 posted 02/25/10 4:37am

funksterr

Brofie said:

Zannaloaf said:



"John Blackwell alone increases the talent level of the band beyiond anything that Prince had onstage with him before or since."

So what DID you mean by this? It clearly seems that you are saying John Blackwell ALONE....etc. Perhaps if you would explain it further we can understand just what you meant whether we agree or not.


I cant help those you cant comprehend what I wrote. It is quite straightforward and simply written. I couldnt care less about changing the minds of stangers on the internet. They can have their opinions. There is no value to me in converting anyone - I am not Blackwell's agent. I just think he happened to be in the most talented lineup Prince ever had and he was the most remarkable player in that lineup. I think Bland was just as good - he just didnt have the band members that Blackwell had - I mean, lets face it: Tommy Barbarella was no Renato Neto. Thats my opinion and I am not changing it in response to some of the maliciously incorrect interpretations of my original post that some have left here. Some people will never be able to see past Wendy and Lisa so they will actually try to convince others that their version of the Revolution was the best - while those of us who saw Prince live several times BEFORE Purple Rain might understand that much of it is simply because they were in the movie and thus the most exposed and remembered.


You read to much hype. None of those cats were all that. None of them. Not to say they can't play well, it's just that they were trying to recreate music from an era they were not part of. It was unnatural. That's a tough task for anybody.
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Reply #17 posted 02/25/10 5:30am

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funksterr said:

Brofie said:



I cant help those you cant comprehend what I wrote. It is quite straightforward and simply written. I couldnt care less about changing the minds of stangers on the internet. They can have their opinions. There is no value to me in converting anyone - I am not Blackwell's agent. I just think he happened to be in the most talented lineup Prince ever had and he was the most remarkable player in that lineup. I think Bland was just as good - he just didnt have the band members that Blackwell had - I mean, lets face it: Tommy Barbarella was no Renato Neto. Thats my opinion and I am not changing it in response to some of the maliciously incorrect interpretations of my original post that some have left here. Some people will never be able to see past Wendy and Lisa so they will actually try to convince others that their version of the Revolution was the best - while those of us who saw Prince live several times BEFORE Purple Rain might understand that much of it is simply because they were in the movie and thus the most exposed and remembered.


You read to much hype. None of those cats were all that. None of them. Not to say they can't play well, it's just that they were trying to recreate music from an era they were not part of. It was unnatural. That's a tough task for anybody.


OK thats your opinion. But mine is not fashioned on reading "hype" (whatever that is). I have seen the band live several times - just as I have seen nearly all of Prince's bands since 1982. I speak from a reference of knowing music and kowing what I saw and heard through 18 years of seeing Prince live.
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Reply #18 posted 02/25/10 6:54am

Zannaloaf

Brofie said:

Zannaloaf said:



"John Blackwell alone increases the talent level of the band beyiond anything that Prince had onstage with him before or since."

So what DID you mean by this? It clearly seems that you are saying John Blackwell ALONE....etc. Perhaps if you would explain it further we can understand just what you meant whether we agree or not.


I cant help those you cant comprehend what I wrote. It is quite straightforward and simply written. I couldnt care less about changing the minds of stangers on the internet. They can have their opinions. There is no value to me in converting anyone - I am not Blackwell's agent. I just think he happened to be in the most talented lineup Prince ever had and he was the most remarkable player in that lineup. I think Bland was just as good - he just didnt have the band members that Blackwell had - I mean, lets face it: Tommy Barbarella was no Renato Neto. Thats my opinion and I am not changing it in response to some of the maliciously incorrect interpretations of my original post that some have left here. Some people will never be able to see past Wendy and Lisa so they will actually try to convince others that their version of the Revolution was the best - while those of us who saw Prince live several times BEFORE Purple Rain might understand that much of it is simply because they were in the movie and thus the most exposed and remembered.


Wondered how long before you did your drop back defense of bringing up W&L. I saw Prince on the Controversy and 1999 tour pre Wendy and STILL think the Gold band - who I saw on multiple occasions out at Paisley Park (on Princes summer backyard tour) - still were the most cohesive. I've probably seen Prince and his various bands on the order of 75 times thanks TO PP gigs. that doesn't make me more of an expert, but it shows, like you it's not just about having seen one configuration that stuck with me.
Straight up playing doesn't make or break a band. It is how well they play together. If nothing else I prefer to hear Prince when he sings the songs, not let the audience finish them. Since he was doing less older material in '96 while performing live he did not tend to do it as much and that alone makes it better for me.
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Reply #19 posted 02/25/10 7:57am

Graycap23

I'd suggest u take a listen 2 Sheila E and Michael Bland.
Does the phrase "in the pocket" mean anything 2 u?
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Reply #20 posted 02/25/10 7:59am

Brofie

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Zannaloaf said:

Brofie said:



I cant help those you cant comprehend what I wrote. It is quite straightforward and simply written. I couldnt care less about changing the minds of stangers on the internet. They can have their opinions. There is no value to me in converting anyone - I am not Blackwell's agent. I just think he happened to be in the most talented lineup Prince ever had and he was the most remarkable player in that lineup. I think Bland was just as good - he just didnt have the band members that Blackwell had - I mean, lets face it: Tommy Barbarella was no Renato Neto. Thats my opinion and I am not changing it in response to some of the maliciously incorrect interpretations of my original post that some have left here. Some people will never be able to see past Wendy and Lisa so they will actually try to convince others that their version of the Revolution was the best - while those of us who saw Prince live several times BEFORE Purple Rain might understand that much of it is simply because they were in the movie and thus the most exposed and remembered.


Wondered how long before you did your drop back defense of bringing up W&L. I saw Prince on the Controversy and 1999 tour pre Wendy and STILL think the Gold band - who I saw on multiple occasions out at Paisley Park (on Princes summer backyard tour) - still were the most cohesive. I've probably seen Prince and his various bands on the order of 75 times thanks TO PP gigs. that doesn't make me more of an expert, but it shows, like you it's not just about having seen one configuration that stuck with me.
Straight up playing doesn't make or break a band. It is how well they play together. If nothing else I prefer to hear Prince when he sings the songs, not let the audience finish them. Since he was doing less older material in '96 while performing live he did not tend to do it as much and that alone makes it better for me.
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What is a drop back defense? I dont need a defense for anyone or anything in here. It is just a salient point that many dont want to face.
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Reply #21 posted 02/25/10 8:27am

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Oh lord...
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Reply #22 posted 02/25/10 9:05am

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Graycap23 said:

I'd suggest u take a listen 2 Sheila E and Michael Bland.
Does the phrase "in the pocket" mean anything 2 u?
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I suggest you read the post again before further embarrasing yourself. I already checked one genius who decided to jump on me with the wrong interpretation.LOL
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Reply #23 posted 02/25/10 9:21am

Graycap23

Brofie said:

Graycap23 said:

I'd suggest u take a listen 2 Sheila E and Michael Bland.
Does the phrase "in the pocket" mean anything 2 u?
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I suggest you read the post again before further embarrasing yourself. I already checked one genius who decided to jump on me with the wrong interpretation.LOL
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lol.....
Chalk my response up 2 time wasted.

Carry on.
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Reply #24 posted 02/25/10 9:29am

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and the Org "Big Bait" award goes to.....
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y'all gone keep messin' around wit me and turn me back to the old me......
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Reply #25 posted 02/25/10 9:56am

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carlcranshaw said:

This Band is my favorite.



yes I agree....for me this was his best band to date.
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Reply #26 posted 02/25/10 10:08am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

and the Org "Big Bait" award goes to.....


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I wouldn't have even posted if I knew this was what this thread was all about.
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Reply #27 posted 02/25/10 10:10am

Graycap23

sosgemini said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

and the Org "Big Bait" award goes to.....


nod

I wouldn't have even posted if I knew this was what this thread was all about.

Co-sign.....but I won't be making that mistake again.
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