The lyrics to that song he was talking A particular record executive in the music industry.
pplrain said: prodigalfan said: Deadflower. Since you obviously not know some historic gossip. It has been widely rumored by paisley park insiders that Mani was the 3rd wheel in prince and mayte's relationship. Mani was very much in the picture prior to Dec 2000. Prince himself acknowledged her on his album liner for Come. The same album that contain the song The One that was written about his wife at the time Mayte ( her name is actually in the lyrics). So Mani had to have tough skin because she was seen as a homewrecker/stalker. Not just by Fans but by pp insiders as well. You have to understand that mayte was with prince for several years as his woman and even before as part of the band. She went on several years so she bonded not only with band members but their families as well. Also being pg and living in Mnpls I am sure she bonded with female relatives of prince as well. When mani came along there had to be a lot of picking sides. Sort of like Team Angelina/ Team Jennifer thing. Bria is subject to ridicule in part because she comes off as desperate and very accessible with her posting on the org either directly or indirectly. To my knowledge none of prince's other women were ever as accessible as bria while still being involved with prince. Since he prefers to have an air of mystery usually his women are mysterious as well. The fact that bria comes to org is a signal to me that her love affair with prince is over. The thinly veiled self serving posts about how talented a singer she is how bsautiful she is and how happy she and prince are sound desperate and subject to ridicule. Which is what happens So who are the other two? Ananda Lewis? But wasn't she involved with Lenny Kravitz? listen to the lyrics: .. wtf I was thinking when I threw you the ball .. .. it hit three bystanders... they want to sue me, but they love me too much Prince always likes to be in a four way relationship with women ... he juggles them. His fame and money helps him get away with it. I don't think he will ever find "the one" that way. I don't think he even wants to. I love gossip Sorry Prince. [Edited 2/3/10 20:29pm] U R NOT BETTER THAN ANYONE NOR R U PERFECT!! | |
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Way back in the day, Mani used to be into the boot scene and posted on amp. Someone else said they'd known her in college and she was totally obsessed with Prince, like shrine-ville in her room. I think she was very calculating in her moves, may have put on the shy act, but she knew what she wanted and got it. I felt so bad for Mayte then, cuz that bitch was skeezin' right under her nose. | |
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Serena said: Way back in the day, Mani used to be into the boot scene and posted on amp. Someone else said they'd known her in college and she was totally obsessed with Prince, like shrine-ville in her room. I think she was very calculating in her moves, may have put on the shy act, but she knew what she wanted and got it. I felt so bad for Mayte then, cuz that bitch was skeezin' right under her nose.
I see things differently. Mayte was young, like a very young version of Tame or mzkqueen03 in that she thought this man was the dippy dippy dope. She was a blown over as any HUGE Prince fan would be to even get to meet Prince never mind work for him. Had she not looked like she did, she would have never gotten even that far. Next somewhere in this time, I will look this up, Prince has his marriage annulled and what that means to many people is disolved, ended. However he was not legally divorced from Mayte until 2000. Supposedly after the anulment, Prince and Mayte were to be married in a different way. I don't think this ever happened. So it is possible that Mani thought that there marriage was over, basically. Add to this that Mayte was spending alot of time, as far as I have heard, in Spain and not exactly there to tell Mani any differently. Married men never tell women "Look, my wife loves me deeply, she is a wonderful woman and the marriage is going great, I just like to mess around" No they say it's over, that it's just in name only. That maybe they were never truly in love with her in the first place and the first chance that they get they will divorce her. Prince was neither young nor niave when he was with both Mayte and Mani, but both of these women were. Especially Mani, who seems to have lived a much more sheltered life then any of his other women. She wouldn't be the first woman who heard only what she wanted to hear because she was obsessed with a man. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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I am young but I am not dumb. Who knows maybe it's because my mother told me things that other mothers don't share with daughters. However married is married no matter what he says and a girl should never go there never why he is married. Because what happened to Mani always happens yes she did marry him but it didn't last and people think badly about her because no one likes a home wrecker no matter how smart, charming, dumb or whatever they be. I don't care if his wife was on life support u don't go there no matter what he says. Girls hold all the power until they give in to a man's sexual desire. Know that to be the truth. Proverbs 23:9 | |
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I don't understand why people KNOW for a fact that Prince cheated on Mayte with Mani. Second, the onus never seems to be on Prince, the person who supposedly broke the marriage vows. Perhaps, just perhaps, none of you know what the hell you are talking about, especially considering that Mani and Mayte are friends. They appear to have moved past the alleged nastiness and I can't fathom for the life of me, why you all can't.
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Serena said: Someone else said they'd known her in college and she was totally obsessed with Prince, like shrine-ville in her room. I think she was very calculating in her moves, may have put on the shy act, but she knew what she wanted and got it. I felt so bad for Mayte then, cuz that bitch was skeezin' right under her nose.
This thing gets referenced all the time. It came from one article that was written in a Toronto paper I believe... it was an interview with someone that claimed to know her well in college. Are we really going to base an entire perception of Mani being obsessed with Prince and making very calculated, deceitful moves off of this one article? There's a lot more to factor in the equation that you may or may not know. | |
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Vendetta1 said: I don't understand why people KNOW for a fact that Prince cheated on Mayte with Mani. Second, the onus never seems to be on Prince, the person who supposedly broke the marriage vows. Perhaps, just perhaps, none of you know what the hell you are talking about, especially considering that Mani and Mayte are friends. They appear to have moved past the alleged nastiness and I can't fathom for the life of me, why you all can't.
Mani is a skank and yet people continue to love Prince's dirty draws. I agree with you. It's always the female that is never good enough and that's why he cheats. I read something somewhere that says the cheating is not about the sex, it's not caring enough about the person that you are with and valueing that relationship. I don't know of one woman that Prince has ever been with that he never cheated on. Even if he didn't cheat on Mayte with Mani, from what Nona Gaye says he was deffinately working Nona and Mayte at the same time. I love that mans music and I love his love songs and am curious therefor about his choice in women. Any woman that thinks that that man will be monogomous with them is drunk on purple Koolaid. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Now that is true. Prince will never be monogamous at least while he still has some play in him.
But about time of divorce and start of new relationship; I have heard it said before that Mani was Mayte's assistant before becmng prince's personal assistant. It was said that that was why the betrayal was so devastating to Mayte. Of this is speculation. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Acrylic said: I could not sit down and have a real conversation with Mani. Not that I wouldn't want to, but I wouldn't be able to focus. This would be all I would see...
... I can't help it. THIS is who I think of when I see pictures of Manuela: "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Vendetta1 said: I don't understand why people KNOW for a fact that Prince cheated on Mayte with Mani. Second, the onus never seems to be on Prince, the person who supposedly broke the marriage vows. Perhaps, just perhaps, none of you know what the hell you are talking about, especially considering that Mani and Mayte are friends. They appear to have moved past the alleged nastiness and I can't fathom for the life of me, why you all can't.
Mani is a skank and yet people continue to love Prince's dirty draws. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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WaterInYourBath said: Acrylic said: I could not sit down and have a real conversation with Mani. Not that I wouldn't want to, but I wouldn't be able to focus. This would be all I would see...
... I can't help it. THIS is who I think of when I see pictures of Manuela: She does resemble Lena alot. Funny, many people would give Lena a 10 but say that Manuela is a 6. We are all so hard on Prince's exes. As far as I am concerned these relationships all have one thing in common and that's Prince. If the words of future baby mama are to believe, Prince also seems to feel that it is the women that aren't quite right. I don't know of any song where he expresses guilt or sorrow for the way he treated a woman. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Deadflow3r said: WaterInYourBath said: THIS is who I think of when I see pictures of Manuela: She does resemble Lena alot. Funny, many people would give Lena a 10 but say that Manuela is a 6. We are all so hard on Prince's exes. As far as I am concerned these relationships all have one thing in common and that's Prince. If the words of future baby mama are to believe, Prince also seems to feel that it is the women that aren't quite right. I don't know of any song where he expresses guilt or sorrow for the way he treated a woman. a Million Days is a song that sounded remorseful. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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mayrain said: I am young but I am not dumb. Who knows maybe it's because my mother told me things that other mothers don't share with daughters. However married is married no matter what he says and a girl should never go there never why he is married. Because what happened to Mani always happens yes she did marry him but it didn't last and people think badly about her because no one likes a home wrecker no matter how smart, charming, dumb or whatever they be. I don't care if his wife was on life support u don't go there no matter what he says. Girls hold all the power until they give in to a man's sexual desire. Know that to be the truth.
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prodigalfan said: mayrain said: I am young but I am not dumb. Who knows maybe it's because my mother told me things that other mothers don't share with daughters. However married is married no matter what he says and a girl should never go there never why he is married. Because what happened to Mani always happens yes she did marry him but it didn't last and people think badly about her because no one likes a home wrecker no matter how smart, charming, dumb or whatever they be. I don't care if his wife was on life support u don't go there no matter what he says. Girls hold all the power until they give in to a man's sexual desire. Know that to be the truth.
This reminds me of the lyrics for Pussy Control. To my listening ears Prince was saying that women had more control then they realized and that they should use it. But I may have it all wrong. Anyway, that's why people say that if a man leaves his wife for his mistress, when the mistress becomes the next wife he will find himself his next mistress. It is not ALWAYS true, but I think it's true more often than not. What angers me a bit is when all the cheating women get the blame and the man is treated as if he could not help himself. To my understanding Paul Newman never cheated on his wife and I am pretty sure he had a million chances. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Million days. I wish that I could cut and paste it so we could look it over.
On another thread someone said that Manuela and Eric had broken up. Have not seen anything about that. They are not exactly an A rate celebrity couple so I doubt anybody outside of Prince fans would even be remotely interested. I think it's great that she keeps the focus on her charity and never uses the name Mrs. Nelson to bring attention to that charity. Using the "Prince's ex-wife" title is a two edge sword. More people may want to talk with her but the interview would consist of a few questions about the charity and a whole lot of questions about Prince. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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prodigalfan said: Deadflow3r said: O.k. people you have not been loving on my thread here. Why? Is is that she is no longer in the way of you getting to "your" man? Or do you really have nothing to say about her?
I wasn't around while she was married to the guy so maybe many of you are all talked out by the time news of the divorce came. But someone must have met her. What was she like? Also I think she was his Wendy. EVERYONE, his parents, sisters, women, friends, even the guy he studied the Bible with to become a Jehovah's Witness is in showbizz. Mayte was one of the few windows that he had to the real world IMO that was truly part of his inner circle. In his life at least, she was a one of a kind. Any thoughts? I will try to put together stuff. I have no idea how to cut and paste but this is the time to try. I just want a thread about his women that doesn't make me or anybody else want to verballly Bria. Deadflower. Since you obviously not know some historic gossip. It has been widely rumored by paisley park insiders that Mani was the 3rd wheel in prince and mayte's relationship. Mani was very much in the picture prior to Dec 2000. Prince himself acknowledged her on his album liner for Come. The same album that contain the song The One that was written about his wife at the time Mayte ( her name is actually in the lyrics). So Mani had to have tough skin because she was seen as a homewrecker/stalker. Not just by Fans but by pp insiders as well. You have to understand that mayte was with prince for several years as his woman and even before as part of the band. She went on several years so she bonded not only with band members but their families as well. Also being pg and living in Mnpls I am sure she bonded with female relatives of prince as well. When mani came along there had to be a lot of picking sides. Sort of like Team Angelina/ Team Jennifer thing. Bria is subject to ridicule in part because she comes off as desperate and very accessible with her posting on the org either directly or indirectly. To my knowledge none of prince's other women were ever as accessible as bria while still being involved with prince. Since he prefers to have an air of mystery usually his women are mysterious as well. The fact that bria comes to org is a signal to me that her love affair with prince is over. The thinly veiled self serving posts about how talented a singer she is how bsautiful she is and how happy she and prince are sound desperate and subject to ridicule. Which is what happens Tell it!!!! still aint giving two shits and a fart about Bria. | |
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Did orgers hate Bria as much as Mani when Mani was the wife?
Another thing, I was watching a clip of Bianca Jagger, who is now very involved in political causes and thought of Manuela. Both are articulate IMO and Manuela seems to be going in that direction. It will be interesting to see what she is doing in 10 years. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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i have heard more then once that Bria was seen with her sister. I know that it has to hurt to have your sister described as a tone-deaf drag queen at best. Can't say that I blame them for getting heavy handed on the defense. It was not too smart, however, to look so obvious. a great singer? There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Deadflow3r said: Did orgers hate Bria as much as Mani when Mani was the wife?
I wasn't paying any attention to P's personal life when he and Mani hooked up, but I never saw anything like what's going on here these days during their marriage. People said a lot of nasty stuff, as they still do, about her being a home-wrecker, not pretty enough, and so on. But I never ever experienced the harshness Bria has to endure. "And the award for Prince's most despised girlfriend goes to... Brenda Fuentes!!!" | |
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VenusBlingBling said: Deadflow3r said: Did orgers hate Bria as much as Mani when Mani was the wife?
I wasn't paying any attention to P's personal life when he and Mani hooked up, but I never saw anything like what's going on here these days during their marriage. People said a lot of nasty stuff, as they still do, about her being a home-wrecker, not pretty enough, and so on. But I never ever experienced the harshness Bria has to endure. "And the award for Prince's most despised girlfriend goes to... Brenda Fuentes!!!" Manuela was never billed as something she wasn't; actually he never tried to sell her to the public period. I don't know of any interview that he did where he talked about her. I read the Entertainment Weekly coverstory that came out in 2004 (I think) and all we get is that she walked in and out of the room and he looked longingly at her. Whether he ever asked her to coo sexily on one of his songs we will never know, we do know that she never did. Despite getting baptized at the same time he did he didnt talk about her ability to understand scripture even (like he did Bria). Mayte was the one he said brought him closer to God. By not talking about Manuela he also did not say a bunch of stupid stuff that is unsubstantiated about her either. Maybe that's why I find her so interesting. The only thing he seems to have called her in a song is the "Muse". Since he never formed a personality for her she is more able, IMO, to form her own public image for herself. There use to be orgers who talked of meeting Brenda before she became Bria. She worked on getting to the point that she was Princes escort to event after event BUT she seems to not have looked at what to do when she gets there. I don't think she used up he 15 minutes of fame. She used five minutes of it and then took powder break with the other 10. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Deadflow3r said: Did orgers hate Bria as much as Mani when Mani was the wife?
Yeah they did but it pales in comparison to Bria's treatment. Perhaps one day someone will be willing to share what Bria has done to them personally that she deserves the vitriol aimed her way on this site almost every day.Another thing, I was watching a clip of Bianca Jagger, who is now very involved in political causes and thought of Manuela. Both are articulate IMO and Manuela seems to be going in that direction. It will be interesting to see what she is doing in 10 years. | |
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Vendetta1 said: Deadflow3r said: Did orgers hate Bria as much as Mani when Mani was the wife?
Yeah they did but it pales in comparison to Bria's treatment. Perhaps one day someone will be willing to share what Bria has done to them personally that she deserves the vitriol aimed her way on this site almost every day.Another thing, I was watching a clip of Bianca Jagger, who is now very involved in political causes and thought of Manuela. Both are articulate IMO and Manuela seems to be going in that direction. It will be interesting to see what she is doing in 10 years. Releasing that album? Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Vendetta1 said: Yeah they did but it pales in comparison to Bria's treatment. Perhaps one day someone will be willing to share what Bria has done to them personally that she deserves the vitriol aimed her way on this site almost every day.
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Well I have not seen any new Prince and Bria pictures in a long time. I wonder how long it will be until we see a new woman with him. I am sure he is will wait a respectable amount of time. It would have been weird for him to take a woman other than Bria to the preGrammys and Grammys when Bria was also on the same CD release as Dreamer.
I think the next girl should ask to get the Manuela treatment and simply be the "girlfriend". A bit of mistery is a good thing. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Deadflow3r said: prodigalfan said: This reminds me of the lyrics for Pussy Control. To my listening ears Prince was saying that women had more control then they realized and that they should use it. But I may have it all wrong. Anyway, that's why people say that if a man leaves his wife for his mistress, when the mistress becomes the next wife he will find himself his next mistress. It is not ALWAYS true, but I think it's true more often than not. What angers me a bit is when all the cheating women get the blame and the man is treated as if he could not help himself. To my understanding Paul Newman never cheated on his wife and I am pretty sure he had a million chances. funny that you chose Paul Newman. His wife Joanne is the SECOND Mrs Newman. She was in fact his mistress. He left first wife who was with him in the lean years with small children for Joanne. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Vendetta1 said: Deadflow3r said: Did orgers hate Bria as much as Mani when Mani was the wife?
Yeah they did but it pales in comparison to Bria's treatment. Perhaps one day someone will be willing to share what Bria has done to them personally that she deserves the vitriol aimed her way on this site almost every day.Another thing, I was watching a clip of Bianca Jagger, who is now very involved in political causes and thought of Manuela. Both are articulate IMO and Manuela seems to be going in that direction. It will be interesting to see what she is doing in 10 years. I really think that Bria or someone on her behalf really did her a misservice by all the threads about how gear her album was or how talented she is. This opens criticism about other things like her looks and validity of a relationship with Prince. Mani was just his wife. She never got online and dropped dimes etc until the marriage was pretty much over. In 2004 when I think the marriage was still on track you heard nothing from Mani camp. Same with Mayte although she was around before the web was as big as it is now. Bria or her people sort of shoved her and her cd in our face multiple times a week. The org was littered with the threads. If you are going to do thatyou better be able to back it up. The fact that Bria has not sung ONE NOTE publicly makes her earlier claims laughable. It is always better for OTHERS to heap praise on you... Not YOU patting YOURSELF On the back. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: Vendetta1 said: Yeah they did but it pales in comparison to Bria's treatment. Perhaps one day someone will be willing to share what Bria has done to them personally that she deserves the vitriol aimed her way on this site almost every day.
I really think that Bria or someone on her behalf really did her a misservice by all the threads about how gear her album was or how talented she is. This opens criticism about other things like her looks and validity of a relationship with Prince. Mani was just his wife. She never got online and dropped dimes etc until the marriage was pretty much over. In 2004 when I think the marriage was still on track you heard nothing from Mani camp. Same with Mayte although she was around before the web was as big as it is now. Bria or her people sort of shoved her and her cd in our face multiple times a week. The org was littered with the threads. If you are going to do thatyou better be able to back it up. The fact that Bria has not sung ONE NOTE publicly makes her earlier claims laughable. It is always better for OTHERS to heap praise on you... Not YOU patting YOURSELF On the back. | |
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prodigalfan said: Vendetta1 said: Yeah they did but it pales in comparison to Bria's treatment. Perhaps one day someone will be willing to share what Bria has done to them personally that she deserves the vitriol aimed her way on this site almost every day.
I really think that Bria or someone on her behalf really did her a misservice by all the threads about how gear her album was or how talented she is. This opens criticism about other things like her looks and validity of a relationship with Prince. Mani was just his wife. She never got online and dropped dimes etc until the marriage was pretty much over. In 2004 when I think the marriage was still on track you heard nothing from Mani camp. Same with Mayte although she was around before the web was as big as it is now. Bria or her people sort of shoved her and her cd in our face multiple times a week. The org was littered with the threads. If you are going to do thatyou better be able to back it up. The fact that Bria has not sung ONE NOTE publicly makes her earlier claims laughable. It is always better for OTHERS to heap praise on you... Not YOU patting YOURSELF On the back. Pray tell, which threads are you referring to ProdigalFan??? Can you list them so we can see what/who your talking about? Lets examine. Tell me, how did this thread go from telling stories about Manuela to lets dog out Bria? Bria is interesting isn't she. | |
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shytown said: prodigalfan said: I really think that Bria or someone on her behalf really did her a misservice by all the threads about how gear her album was or how talented she is. This opens criticism about other things like her looks and validity of a relationship with Prince. Mani was just his wife. She never got online and dropped dimes etc until the marriage was pretty much over. In 2004 when I think the marriage was still on track you heard nothing from Mani camp. Same with Mayte although she was around before the web was as big as it is now. Bria or her people sort of shoved her and her cd in our face multiple times a week. The org was littered with the threads. If you are going to do thatyou better be able to back it up. The fact that Bria has not sung ONE NOTE publicly makes her earlier claims laughable. It is always better for OTHERS to heap praise on you... Not YOU patting YOURSELF On the back. Pray tell, which threads are you referring to ProdigalFan??? Can you list them so we can see what/who your talking about? Lets examine. Tell me, how did this thread go from telling stories about Manuela to lets dog out Bria? Bria is interesting isn't she. I think I might have pulled it off the track by saying that the next girlfriend should ask for the Manuela treatment and not do interviews, appear on stage way way in the background, sing a CD's worth of songs and then Prince never had her on stage. We don't know if it was Prince or Bria that did not want her on stage. Anyway because she didn't get a new name and a press persona I think Manuela walked away with more of herself intact. If anything she was better off then the 22 year old groupy she use to be. I also asked if Manuela got it as bad as Bria since the org was up and running during their marriage. I think Prodigalfan was trying to give reasons why Manuela might not have gotten the hate that Bria did. Like I said earlier it may have been a family member that argued in Bria's favor on the April, May and June 2009 threads. Critics and Orgers were unempressed with her sound and though she isn't an ugly woman it's clear that she didn't have what it takes to be even a catalogue model. I mean there are some unanswered questions. Has she ever sang live after High School variety shows that she talked about to Tavis? Beyond getting a portfolio of professional pics together, what agency did she work for and who ever hired her as a print or runway model? I have an adversion to calling someone a model and yet there is no proof that anyone hired that person to do so. It was if she was billed to be a potential big star and there was nothing to back it up. Tavis said " remember that name" as if she was going to be HUGE. Now back to Manuela. No talks with Oprah, Tavis, Sinbad etc. No "she does with her breath what I do with my falsetto" crap. I think the lady got the best deal of all and I think in the long run she will make out the best. Because she is such a mystery I wanted to know what she's like etc. Even Kevin Smith made no mention of her and she was around at the time of his filming Prince. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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