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Thread started 01/28/10 12:52pm

PurpleLove7

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Talened Mr. Andre' Cymone

Was Andre' or is Andre' just as talented as Prince?
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Reply #1 posted 01/28/10 1:04pm

AngelsCry

I'm Sorry but my answer would be No! Andre is talented but in my opinion, Prince is more talented. Plus Prince has been in the music business, Since 1978... Now that's a long time.
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Reply #2 posted 01/28/10 2:20pm

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Musically, no. But Andre may be better at other things than Prince. For all we know, AC could be a world class cribbage player.
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Reply #3 posted 01/28/10 2:54pm

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How do we know that. Andre spent most of his formative years (1972-1981) in Prince's shadow and it was clearly obvious he had lots of talent, probably just as much as Prince, and seemed to resent it towards the end, that Prince got all the glory while he was being overlooked.
Perhaps by the time he released his albums Living in the 80s and Surviving in the new wave, his moment for raw creativity had passed. Being in Prince's shadow for so long, he obviously was in tune with what Prince was playing and having to play Princes music (No matter how much of it he claims to have composed) when he could have been focusing on his own career.
Theres plenty of evidence to suggest Andre was Prince's equal and maybe his better, all these stories of Andre mimicking whatever Prince played, his instrumental virtuosity like Prince and the fact that he was considered the second in the band after Prince (Theres evidence in DMSR and Possessed, that Prince treated him better and paid him more than the others - maybe Prince felt threatened). He also apparently wrote "Do me baby" and planned the Time and Vanity 6 from the satrt, but Prince hijacked those ideas. Also he was Prince's oldest friend and practically grew up with him. If anything Andre could have been big, but he was shortchanged by Prince and the music industry, and when his chance came, it was too late, he had lost some of the passion.
Still he did produce and marry Jody Watley and had a minor hit with a Prince song called Dance electric. He also stayed in music, but yes it was the first career killed by Prince there (If you don't count Sue Ann Carwell).
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Reply #4 posted 01/28/10 3:21pm

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same old Q and same old A - 'where's his music to back up the talent? - where's his SOTT, 1999, Purple rain albums etc. Point is the cat may be super talented in the studio and may even be able to outplay P on every instrument BUT can he write a world class jam? - hell Dance electric was his best song and P wrote that!.
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Reply #5 posted 01/28/10 3:35pm

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Well he did better with Jody Watley than Prince did with any of his wives,girlfriends, hos. Musically that is.
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Reply #6 posted 01/28/10 5:43pm

indiansky

André Cymone did not write Purple and Gold
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Reply #7 posted 01/28/10 5:45pm

indiansky

And Prince did not write anything like Purple and Gold when André Cymone was around. Let's petition Andrés Facebook to give us a recent song and then we can have this debate. Read on twitter doing a search for him that he has a PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE
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Reply #8 posted 01/28/10 6:28pm

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indiansky said:

André Cymone did not write Purple and Gold


Hence, he IS in fact more talented than Prince. lol
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Reply #9 posted 01/28/10 7:30pm

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funkyhead said:

same old Q and same old A - 'where's his music to back up the talent? - where's his SOTT, 1999, Purple rain albums etc. Point is the cat may be super talented in the studio and may even be able to outplay P on every instrument BUT can he write a world class jam? - hell Dance electric was his best song and P wrote that!.


Kelly's Eyes kicks Dance Electric's azz.
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Reply #10 posted 01/28/10 9:33pm

ernestsewell

AngelsCry said:

I'm Sorry but my answer would be No! Andre is talented but in my opinion, Prince is more talented. Plus Prince has been in the music business, Since 1978... Now that's a long time.

And who was Prince's first bass player in 1978?
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Reply #11 posted 01/28/10 10:12pm

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ernestsewell said:

AngelsCry said:

I'm Sorry but my answer would be No! Andre is talented but in my opinion, Prince is more talented. Plus Prince has been in the music business, Since 1978... Now that's a long time.

And who was Prince's first bass player in 1978?


Wait... I know this one...
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Reply #12 posted 01/29/10 3:33pm

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there isnt enough AC out there to make a fair comparison

while prince is most likely the clear winner in the talent department i think AC played a large part in creating the foundation of the minneapolis sound.
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Reply #13 posted 01/30/10 7:28am

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There's no doubt that he was talented but maybe not more than Prince. And according to BamBam Prince stole "Do Me Baby" and/or "I wanna be your lover".
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Reply #14 posted 01/30/10 4:18pm

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funksterr said:

funkyhead said:

same old Q and same old A - 'where's his music to back up the talent? - where's his SOTT, 1999, Purple rain albums etc. Point is the cat may be super talented in the studio and may even be able to outplay P on every instrument BUT can he write a world class jam? - hell Dance electric was his best song and P wrote that!.


Kelly's Eyes kicks Dance Electric's azz.


And the asses of countless other songs, many of prince's included.
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Reply #15 posted 02/04/10 5:45am

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squirrelgrease said:

Musically, no. But Andre may be better at other things than Prince. For all we know, AC could be a world class cribbage player.


He made one hell of a taco the last time I saw him working in LA. I bet Prince cant do that
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Reply #16 posted 02/04/10 5:47am

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funksterr said:

funkyhead said:

same old Q and same old A - 'where's his music to back up the talent? - where's his SOTT, 1999, Purple rain albums etc. Point is the cat may be super talented in the studio and may even be able to outplay P on every instrument BUT can he write a world class jam? - hell Dance electric was his best song and P wrote that!.


Kelly's Eyes kicks Dance Electric's azz.

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Reply #17 posted 02/04/10 7:10am

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Brofie said:

squirrelgrease said:

Musically, no. But Andre may be better at other things than Prince. For all we know, AC could be a world class cribbage player.


He made one hell of a taco the last time I saw him working in LA. I bet Prince cant do that


okay this is like the 4th time someone has suggested andre cymone works at taco bell!?!?!? Is it true?
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Reply #18 posted 02/04/10 9:55am

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People keep hyping this guy, but he's barely written one decent song. More talented than Prince? I'm not one of those sensitive Prince freaks, but that Mr. Cymone is even three quarters as musically talented is seriously a ludicrous suggestion.
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Reply #19 posted 02/04/10 10:10am

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Sometimes parts of something make it whole. Some of Princes best music was from the era Andre was around. Andre surely had some input during that era. Sometimes having certain elements in a band makes it great. I think had Andre, Fink and P stayed together we would have some serious funk coming from P. Just my thoughts
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Reply #20 posted 02/04/10 8:49pm

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Prince is more talened.. But Andre had his moments..I dont know for sure if Andre wrote Pretty Wild Girl, Satisfaction, Trouble but I love those songs.
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Reply #21 posted 02/09/10 6:50pm

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I still believe that Prince had more talent than Andre.
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Reply #22 posted 02/09/10 7:40pm

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PurpleKnight said:

People keep hyping this guy, but he's barely written one decent song. More talented than Prince? I'm not one of those sensitive Prince freaks, but that Mr. Cymone is even three quarters as musically talented is seriously a ludicrous suggestion.


You don't know much about Andre's career if you think he's barely written one decent song. I wonder what specific talents you think Prince has that are so much better than Andre. Prince is a major pop star in large part because he took credit for Andre's ideas. But anyway, enjoy your Purple Kool Aid.
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Reply #23 posted 02/09/10 11:00pm

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funksterr said:

PurpleKnight said:

People keep hyping this guy, but he's barely written one decent song. More talented than Prince? I'm not one of those sensitive Prince freaks, but that Mr. Cymone is even three quarters as musically talented is seriously a ludicrous suggestion.


You don't know much about Andre's career if you think he's barely written one decent song. I wonder what specific talents you think Prince has that are so much better than Andre. Prince is a major pop star in large part because he took credit for Andre's ideas. But anyway, enjoy your Purple Kool Aid.



Yeah, well Andre stole from Eddie Hazel. So, I don't necessarily feel sorry for him in that respect.


For all the talk of Prince stealing from Andre, he should've been able to prove it or make better music.

He did neither.

I like Andre a lot, but he was given chances to succeed.

A lot of people who were associated with Prince have had successful careers for years after their time with him.
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Reply #24 posted 02/09/10 11:52pm

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Paris9748430 said:

funksterr said:



You don't know much about Andre's career if you think he's barely written one decent song. I wonder what specific talents you think Prince has that are so much better than Andre. Prince is a major pop star in large part because he took credit for Andre's ideas. But anyway, enjoy your Purple Kool Aid.



Yeah, well Andre stole from Eddie Hazel. So, I don't necessarily feel sorry for him in that respect.


For all the talk of Prince stealing from Andre, he should've been able to prove it or make better music.

He did neither.

I like Andre a lot, but he was given chances to succeed.

A lot of people who were associated with Prince have had successful careers for years after their time with him.


Exactly.

What talents do I think Prince has over Andre? Oh gee, I don't know, just this little knack for writing hundreds of incredible songs.
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Reply #25 posted 02/10/10 12:30am

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PurpleKnight said:

Paris9748430 said:




Yeah, well Andre stole from Eddie Hazel. So, I don't necessarily feel sorry for him in that respect.


For all the talk of Prince stealing from Andre, he should've been able to prove it or make better music.

He did neither.

I like Andre a lot, but he was given chances to succeed.

A lot of people who were associated with Prince have had successful careers for years after their time with him.


Exactly.

What talents do I think Prince has over Andre? Oh gee, I don't know, just this little knack for writing hundreds of incredible songs.



But in Andre's defense, Prince has said that he didn't think he was more talented than Andre or Sonny T, or anyone that was in that group.

What set Prince apart from everyome else besides his talent was his work ethic. He's willing to be in the studio 24/7 while everyone else sleeps.
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Reply #26 posted 02/10/10 3:00am

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Paris9748430 said:

PurpleKnight said:



Exactly.

What talents do I think Prince has over Andre? Oh gee, I don't know, just this little knack for writing hundreds of incredible songs.



But in Andre's defense, Prince has said that he didn't think he was more talented than Andre or Sonny T, or anyone that was in that group.

What set Prince apart from everyome else besides his talent was his work ethic. He's willing to be in the studio 24/7 while everyone else sleeps.



but wasn't he speaking about their skill as musicians? Prince isn't a a legend because he's a fabulous musician (although it adds to his status). He's a legend because of those fantastic songs he's written, albums he's produced and performances he's given.
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Reply #27 posted 02/10/10 3:24am

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PurpleLove7 said:

Was Andre' or is Andre' just as talented as Prince?


It it really that hard to press the proper key combination on your keyboard? It's André. Not "Andre'".
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Reply #28 posted 02/10/10 4:43pm

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Didn't Prince steal "Do Me Baby" from Andre'? Did not Andre come up with the bass line to "Uptown" during a jam session? Did not Prince list Bobby Z and Andre' as "heaven sent helpers" from his second LP? Listen people, Andre' nor many others in the early Minneapolis sound could be Prince, but let's not under estimate their contribution to Prince's early albums.
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Reply #29 posted 02/10/10 5:06pm

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Didn't Prince steal "Do Me Baby" from Andre'? Did not Andre come up with the bass line to "Uptown" during a jam session? Did not Prince list Bobby Z and Andre' as "heaven sent helpers" from his second LP? Listen people, Andre' nor many others in the early Minneapolis sound could be Prince, but let's not under estimate their contribution to Prince's early albums.



Probably, but Andre stole Do Me Baby from the Eddie Hazel song Frantic Moment.
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