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Thread started 11/27/09 11:47am

dance4me3121

Unreleased Tamar CD

I really want to hear this album,Ive done some searches for and the cheapest price I found was for 250$...thats a bit much. Im wondering if its leaked and if any collectors have it. Im not asking for a copy or where to get it. Hnw much is Prince involved? can u hear his vocals? and what kind of album is it? r&b or mixed? whats the track list?
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Reply #1 posted 11/27/09 12:04pm

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dance4me3121 said:

I really want to hear this album,Ive done some searches for and the cheapest price I found was for 250$...thats a bit much. Im wondering if its leaked and if any collectors have it. Im not asking for a copy or where to get it. Hnw much is Prince involved? can u hear his vocals? and what kind of album is it? r&b or mixed? whats the track list?


It has leaked, and it's not difficult to find.

The whole thing can be found on a 2xCD bootleg entitled "WOW".

I personally really enjoy the Tamar album.

Here's the tracklist:

1. CLOSER 2 MY HEART 2. MILK & HONEY 3. CAN'T KEEP LIVING ALONE 4. HOLLA & SHOUT 5. KEPT WOMAN 6. HOLY GROUND 7. BEAUTIFUL, LOVED & BLESSED 8. REDHEAD STEPCHILD 9. ALL I WANT IS U 10. FIRST LOVE 11. SUNDAY IN THE PARK 12. BEAUTIFUL, LOVED & BLESSED (REPRISE)

The bulk of it is smooth midtempo R&B with live instruments. Not unlike the Bria Valente album, in fact the song "Kept Woman" appears on both.

Holla & Shout is funky, more uptempo and fun. Redhead Stepchild is the star of the album IMO, it's pure guitar, rocking out, and awesome.

Milk & Honey is possibly my favorite track overall.
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Reply #2 posted 11/27/09 2:40pm

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save your £$, it's garbage, makes Bria's CD look like SGN'T Pepper!. No wonder Sony [?] weren't happy with it.
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Reply #3 posted 11/27/09 2:57pm

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funkyhead said:

save your £$, it's garbage, makes Bria's CD look like SGN'T Pepper!. No wonder Sony [?] weren't happy with it.


Actually Sony had no problems with the album, they pulled the album because Prince refused to undertake promotions that he had previously agreed to do for his OWN album.

I don't think Tamar's album is worse than Bria's. Both have 3-4 good songs and a bunch of filler. Tamar is a better vocalist than Bria and there's a wider range of genres of Tamar's album. That's not to say I don't like Bria's album though too.
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Reply #4 posted 11/27/09 3:15pm

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funkyhead said:

save your £$, it's garbage, makes Bria's CD look like SGN'T Pepper!. No wonder Sony [?] weren't happy with it.
Actually Sony had no problems with the album, they pulled the album because Prince refused to undertake promotions that he had previously agreed to do for his OWN album. I don't think Tamar's album is worse than Bria's. Both have 3-4 good songs and a bunch of filler. Tamar is a better vocalist than Bria and there's a wider range of genres of Tamar's album. That's not to say I don't like Bria's album though too.
What promoting did Prince refuse to do? i thought 3121 was promoted well. 3 videos,SNL,American idol,BET awards,Good morning america,etc.
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Reply #5 posted 11/27/09 3:32pm

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dance4me3121 said:

What promoting did Prince refuse to do? i thought 3121 was promoted well. 3 videos,SNL,American idol,BET awards,Good morning america,etc.


Those were just SOME of the things that Prince agreed to do to promote the album. There were more that he didn't do. I don't have the specifics to hand but some of them appeared on the original one-sheet used to promote the album before it's release.
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Reply #6 posted 11/27/09 5:58pm

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I think TAMAR's great! but the only songs worthy r of course

"BEAUTIFUL, LOVED & BLESSED" and the rocking

"REDHEAD STEPCHILD"...

the rest un4tunately r very underwhelming.
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Reply #7 posted 11/27/09 6:20pm

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As stated above, just find the WOW bootleg.



2 CD

Label : "Eye" Records

Catalogue : # 65-66

Disc Length : 79:44 / 77:54

Source : Studio Outtakes / Demo / Other

Sound Quality : VG- / EX+

Year Of Release : 2008


Disc 1
1. Computer Blue 2. I Wonder U (Flute Layer) 3. I Wonder U (Full Orchestra) 4. Wow (Demo) 5. Wow (Sexy MF Groove) 6. Make Believe (Black MF Groove) 7. Make Believe (Houstyle) 8. I'll Do Anything (Blues Demo) 9. Damn U (Sax Mix) 10. San Jose Jam (NPG Music Club Glam Slam VIP Room) 11. Glass Cutter (NPG Music Club Demo) 12. Around The World In A Day (Versace Couture Show 2006 Mix) 13. Lolita (Versace Couture Show 2006 Mix) 14. Love (Versace Couture Show 2006 Mix) 15. Black Sweat (Versace Couture Show 2006 Mix) 16. Kiss (Versace Couture Show 2006 Mix) 17. Shhh (Versace Couture Show 2006 Mix) 18. Kiss (reprise) (Versace Couture Show 2006 Mix) 19. Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful (NPG Music Club Demo) 20. All Along The Watchtower - Best Of You (Studio / Live Performance - Howard Stern Radio Broadcast : 20th January 2007) 21. Guitar (3121.com version) 22. Love (Acoustic) (3121.com version) 23. Shelby Introduces P-Funk 24. P-Funk

Disc 2
Tamar - Milk & Honey

1. Closer 2 My Heart 2. Milk & Honey 3. Can't Keep Living Alone 4. Holla And Shout 5. Kept Woman 6. Holy Ground 7. Beautiful, Loved And Blessed 8. Redhead Stepchild 9. All I Want Is U 10. First Love 11. Sunday In The Park 12. Beautiful, Loves And Blessed (reprise)

Bria Valente

13. Here Eye Come

Martika - Martika's Kitchen Outtakes

14. Beautiful Fabulous 15. Rub U Down 16. The Do

Sue Ann

17. Make It Through The Storm

Delia Derbyshire

18. Clouds

Prince & The NPG

19. Xenophobia (excerpts)

COMMENT

The majority of the content contained in this release is already freely circulating amongst collectors on various titles, and whilst it's always good to have everything worth having on a single release, one can't help but feel that this is an out-and-out attempt to grab some easy cash. Everything on here which appeared on previous releases appears to be identical with no attempt at mastering/cleaning/tweaking the audio in any way, and "Eye" have credited themselves with being the first to release tracks such as the 14:04 version of 'Computer Blue' by using terms such as "was never circulating...until now" - blatantly untrue as it has been lifted directly from the Pure Funk release '30 Years Of Unreleased Funk Vol. 1', as have the numerous tracks intended for the I'll Do Anything soundtrack - simply lifted from the Pure Funk release and placed on here with zero audible improvement. Not cool. That said, Disc 1 does also have it's fair share of items which (thus far) haven't appeared on a bootleg release, including the instrumental sax version of 'Damn U' taken from a WB test pressing, and various NPG Music Club / 3121.com "demo" tracks and alternate versions. The exception to this is a 7:44 instrumental version of 'DMSR' titled 'San Jose Jam' made available in the NPGMC Glam Slam VIP room taken from a Musicology tour soundcheck in San Jose from September 2004 (albeit a mono recording). The opening 12 tracks on Disc 2 contain the cancelled Tamar "Milk & Honey" album which was pulled from release in 2006. With the exception of the closing track, Disc 2 features an all-female collection of material. Bria Valente's dire 3121.com "Jam Of The Week" from October 2007 is followed by 3 uncirculating (until now) outtakes from the Martika's Kitchen sessions - sung by Martika, and supposedly written by Prince, it's clear why they remained off the album. The most interesting item on Disc 2 is the 1 minute instrumental track titled "Clouds" dating from the 1960's and credited to Delia Derbyshire - interesting in the respect that the atmospheric intro proceeding the "Rain is wet and sugar is sweet" speech on 'Eye No' (and the Lovesexy album) appears to be this particular unknown early piece of electronic music - certainly Prince never gave credit for it's usage. The release ends with a number of instrumental excerpts of 'Xenophobia' which were briefly posted at NPGMC in December 2001. The audio quality throughout is of a high standard with the only tracks suffering slightly are Disc 1 (2-8), and due to the nature of the recordings, it's easily overlooked and doesn't affect the release overall. There are intermittent issues with mono/stereo recordings, but theses are presented as they were made available on NPGMC or 3121.com and no fault of "Eye" Records. The booklet accompanying the release is a hefty 26 pages with a fair amount of detail and explanation given to each inclusion - great attention to detail and very thorough, especially the pages dedicated to the doomed Tamar project. Overall this isn't a bad release by any means, it's just that Disc 1 relies far too heavily on what was already freely available. A number of the other inclusions are questionable (Bria Valente, anyone?) however as outtake / studio releases are something of a rarity nowadays, I guess this is all one can expect.


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Reply #8 posted 11/30/09 9:38am

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Reply #9 posted 11/30/09 4:20pm

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dance4me3121 said:

I really want to hear this album,Ive done some searches for and the cheapest price I found was for 250$...thats a bit much. Im wondering if its leaked and if any collectors have it. Im not asking for a copy or where to get it. Hnw much is Prince involved? can u hear his vocals? and what kind of album is it? r&b or mixed? whats the track list?



2 fiddy??? omg that's just mean.
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Reply #10 posted 11/30/09 5:09pm

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Militant said:

funkyhead said:

save your £$, it's garbage, makes Bria's CD look like SGN'T Pepper!. No wonder Sony [?] weren't happy with it.


Actually Sony had no problems with the album, they pulled the album because Prince refused to undertake promotions that he had previously agreed to do for his OWN album.

I don't think Tamar's album is worse than Bria's. Both have 3-4 good songs and a bunch of filler. Tamar is a better vocalist than Bria and there's a wider range of genres of Tamar's album. That's not to say I don't like Bria's album though too.


It was Universal but you're right about how the deal fell through. I love Tamar's voice but I only listened to Bria's cd once.
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Reply #11 posted 12/02/09 7:12pm

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If you like 3121, Tamar's album is the perfect companion to it. I like it a lot and wish it had been officially released.
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Reply #12 posted 12/03/09 4:38pm

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Kara said:

If you like 3121, Tamar's album is the perfect companion to it. I like it a lot and wish it had been officially released.



yeahthat I totally dig her voice. I find her to be pretty as well. Good set of lungs and a nice voice with the right type tracks is all you really need.
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Reply #13 posted 12/08/09 12:56pm

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Kara said:

If you like 3121, Tamar's album is the perfect companion to it. I like it a lot and wish it had been officially released.


I agree with this, you tell the songs were recorded around the same time, but 3121 blows Tamar's album right out of the water.

It ain't dreadful, much better than Mayte's or Carmen's albums and I'd say on a par with Bria's.

Those into more modern RnB/Pop music will probably enjoy it, the more leftfield Prince fans are gonna hate it.
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Reply #14 posted 12/09/09 1:02pm

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

Kara said:

If you like 3121, Tamar's album is the perfect companion to it. I like it a lot and wish it had been officially released.


I agree with this, you tell the songs were recorded around the same time, but 3121 blows Tamar's album right out of the water.

It ain't dreadful, much better than Mayte's or Carmen's albums and I'd say on a par with Bria's.

Those into more modern RnB/Pop music will probably enjoy it, the more leftfield Prince fans are gonna hate it.

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By leftfield you mean Rock/Pop fans. The Tamar CD is a good RnB cd with "Kept Woman" being a stand out track. If you goggle you may be able to find a downloadable copy.
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