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Thread started 10/25/09 2:54pm

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Sheila or Vanity in Truth or Dare?

I saw Madonna's 1991 documentary film Truth or Dare on TV recently. You know the bit where Madonna meets some famous stars backstage after one of her concerts. There's Kevin Costner who calls Madonna's performance "neat". Also there is Olivia Newton John and Lionel Richie. A woman gives Madonna a hug, it looks like either Sheila E or Vanity. It's difficult to tell because she is wearing dark glasses. She is only on screen for a couple of seconds. I thought it maybe Sheila seeing as Lionel was there and they are related. Can anyone confirm if it is Sheila or Vanity?
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Reply #1 posted 10/25/09 3:03pm

Efan

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The first time I saw the movie I thought that too! (That it was Sheila, not Vanity.) Glad I'm not the only one.

Anyway, on closer inspection, I believe it was actually one of the Pointer Sisters, not anyone from the Minneapolis family.
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Reply #2 posted 10/25/09 3:04pm

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Also, Sheila and Lionel aren't related. She played in his band, and his daughter, Nicole, is the biological daughter of Sheila's brother.
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Reply #3 posted 10/25/09 5:02pm

VelvetJ

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That was indeed sheila.
I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin.
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Reply #4 posted 10/25/09 6:32pm

ernestsewell

VelvetJ said:

That was indeed sheila.

No it wasn't. That was one of the Pointer Sisters, which look nothing like Sheila Escovedo or Denise Matthews. She was wearing black gloves w/ jewels over the finger nails.
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Reply #5 posted 10/25/09 7:12pm

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Now I'm kinda back in the "It's Sheila" camp. It makes perfect sense that she would be there with Lionel. Looks a helluva lot like her too. I think it is her. To make it easier for everyone to judge, here's the clip; it's at 5:50.

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Reply #6 posted 10/25/09 7:27pm

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It's sad that I have nothing better to do with my time right now.

Anyway...I remember asking this question back on the Prodigy board in the early '90s, and someone told me it was a Pointer Sister, which I've believed ever since. But these two screen captures from the vid look a lot more like Sheila than any Pointer.



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Reply #7 posted 10/25/09 7:47pm

ernestsewell

Efan said:

It's sad that I have nothing better to do with my time right now.

Anyway...I remember asking this question back on the Prodigy board in the early '90s, and someone told me it was a Pointer Sister, which I've believed ever since. But these two screen captures from the vid look a lot more like Sheila than any Pointer.

Why, because she's got sunglasses on like the Koo Koo video? Those two screen shots are a misleading. It's the Pointer Sister gal. She's bigger and thicker than Sheila. It's not Sheila E.
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Reply #8 posted 10/25/09 7:54pm

Efan

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ernestsewell said:

Efan said:

It's sad that I have nothing better to do with my time right now.

Anyway...I remember asking this question back on the Prodigy board in the early '90s, and someone told me it was a Pointer Sister, which I've believed ever since. But these two screen captures from the vid look a lot more like Sheila than any Pointer.

Why, because she's got sunglasses on like the Koo Koo video? Those two screen shots are a misleading. It's the Pointer Sister gal. She's bigger and thicker than Sheila. It's not Sheila E.


Yes, I saw sunglasses and immediately thought of Koo Koo. That's exactly it.

The woman in the video is not thick, has Sheila's jawline and eyebrows and smile, is wearing a Sheila-type outfit (a camisole under a jacket), and looks like Sheila, which the screen caps show. How are they misleading?
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Reply #9 posted 10/25/09 8:10pm

johnart

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LMAO @ this thread!!! falloff
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Reply #10 posted 10/25/09 10:44pm

SoulAlive

hmmm
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Reply #11 posted 10/26/09 3:03am

MacDaddy

Efan said:

ernestsewell said:


Why, because she's got sunglasses on like the Koo Koo video? Those two screen shots are a misleading. It's the Pointer Sister gal. She's bigger and thicker than Sheila. It's not Sheila E.


Yes, I saw sunglasses and immediately thought of Koo Koo. That's exactly it.

The woman in the video is not thick, has Sheila's jawline and eyebrows and smile, is wearing a Sheila-type outfit (a camisole under a jacket), and looks like Sheila, which the screen caps show. How are they misleading?


I think it's most definately Sheila. All of the pointer Sisters are a lot taller than both Sheila and Madonna are. There was a picture on Sheila's website a while ago where she posed with all three of the Pointer Sisters, and they were REALLY a lot bigger than she is.
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Reply #12 posted 10/26/09 6:34am

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johnart said:

LMAO @ this thread!!! falloff


Well, this IS a very important matter. razz
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Reply #13 posted 10/26/09 6:52am

SoulAlive

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johnart said:

LMAO @ this thread!!! falloff


Well, this IS a very important matter. razz


lol
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Reply #14 posted 10/26/09 7:15pm

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When Lionel Richie hugs Madonna, this woman (Sheilapointervanity) is right behind them and she's looking at the camera. Efan, you could try to post the picture (you seem to be good at it !) So we all will know the truth !
"open your heart, open your mind
A train is leaving all day..."
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Reply #15 posted 10/26/09 8:44pm

ernestsewell

Oh boy.
[Edited 10/26/09 20:48pm]
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Reply #16 posted 10/27/09 7:06pm

VelvetJ

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ernestsewell said:

VelvetJ said:

That was indeed sheila.

No it wasn't. That was one of the Pointer Sisters, which look nothing like Sheila Escovedo or Denise Matthews. She was wearing black gloves w/ jewels over the finger nails.


Um, Yes it was. That was Sheila E, which looks just like Sheila E because it's her.
I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin.
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Reply #17 posted 10/27/09 7:41pm

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Efan said:

It's sad that I have nothing better to do with my time right now.

Anyway...I remember asking this question back on the Prodigy board in the early '90s, and someone told me it was a Pointer Sister, which I've believed ever since. But these two screen captures from the vid look a lot more like Sheila than any Pointer.






Were you on Prodigy? Remember Pseudo chat?? cool
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #18 posted 10/27/09 7:42pm

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Efan said:

It's sad that I have nothing better to do with my time right now.

Anyway...I remember asking this question back on the Prodigy board in the early '90s, and someone told me it was a Pointer Sister, which I've believed ever since. But these two screen captures from the vid look a lot more like Sheila than any Pointer.






Also thanks for the screen shots. I wished I knew how to do this. Anywhoo, yes I do believe this is Sheila... definitely not any Pointer sister on a GOOD DAY.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #19 posted 10/27/09 8:25pm

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ernestsewell said:

Efan said:

It's sad that I have nothing better to do with my time right now.

Anyway...I remember asking this question back on the Prodigy board in the early '90s, and someone told me it was a Pointer Sister, which I've believed ever since. But these two screen captures from the vid look a lot more like Sheila than any Pointer.

Why, because she's got sunglasses on like the Koo Koo video? Those two screen shots are a misleading. It's the Pointer Sister gal. She's bigger and thicker than Sheila. It's not Sheila E.



Look at the jaw line in pic #2. That is not June or Bonnie or Ruth.

ps. I never knew it was the YOUNGEST Pointer sister (lead singer) who died... I alwasy assumed it was one of the older ones.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #20 posted 10/27/09 11:20pm

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Lawd just ask the woman. Maybe she'll settle it, ladies.
http://www.facebook.com/s...1001209633
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Reply #21 posted 10/28/09 4:00am

Efan

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johnart said:

Lawd just ask the woman. Maybe she'll settle it, ladies.
http://www.facebook.com/s...1001209633


That seems extreme. I don't want to be SILLY about this.

And don't pretend you don't love this thread. I think this is gonna end up one of the great ones.
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Reply #22 posted 10/28/09 4:02am

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prodigalfan said:


Were you on Prodigy? Remember Pseudo chat?? cool


Yeah, I was on Prodigy! God, that was forever ago. I think my name on there was just "John." But even that is hazy now in my old age! Those were good times though.
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Reply #23 posted 10/28/09 8:36am

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WARREN THANKS YOU ALL FOR COMING!

I had to check this out for myself after reading all this.
My findings?
I think that although this person does look like Sheila it does appear to be someone a bit darker.
This old picture suggests it may have been Miss Brenda. look at the hair... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/..._Peach.jpg

oh but I don't think they were together at the time...
oh well...
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Reply #24 posted 10/28/09 9:06am

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Efan said:

johnart said:

Lawd just ask the woman. Maybe she'll settle it, ladies.
http://www.facebook.com/s...1001209633


That seems extreme. I don't want to be SILLY about this.

And don't pretend you don't love this thread. I think this is gonna end up one of the great ones.


How dare you call me silly or extreme for wanting to bring peace of mind to my fellow Orgers. How DARE you! hmph!
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Reply #25 posted 10/28/09 9:52am

Efan

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johnart said:

Efan said:



That seems extreme. I don't want to be SILLY about this.

And don't pretend you don't love this thread. I think this is gonna end up one of the great ones.


How dare you call me silly or extreme for wanting to bring peace of mind to my fellow Orgers. How DARE you! hmph!


You're sexy when you're angry. boff
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Reply #26 posted 10/28/09 10:19am

BlaqueKnight

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[v]I don't understand how people could mistake Sheila for Vanity.[/b]
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Reply #27 posted 10/29/09 12:06am

EverlastingNow

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It's Sheila. At one point she's in the background talking to Nikki and her brother Peter Michael is standing right between them.
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Reply #28 posted 10/29/09 12:42am

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It looks like Ruth Pointer to me. Sheila doesn't have an overbite!
If it breaks when it bends, U better not put it in!
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Reply #29 posted 10/30/09 1:04pm

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I think it's Rupaul
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