I remember reading an interview (might have been with Jet) when she first became an evangelist. Denise said something like "I tried men, women, everything..." Now I've noticed when I see that quote in some of her more recent interviews, the word "women" is not there anymore Not sure if she simply wants to leave out some of the more salacious details of her past or what, but I find that interesting.



anyway, does anyone know what women she may have been with back in the day? I have no clue...I read a rumor that Prince wanted a 3some with her and Susan Moonsie, but other than that I've read nothing about Vanity having any lesbian affairs/hookups/relationships? Anyone know? I mean she must have been intimate with at least 1 woman at some point since she admitted it in that early 90's interview, but that's the only time I saw it mentioned.
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mimi2 said:

Nah. that was Niki Sixx wanting a threesome with Vanity and some random stripper chick. Moonsie wasn't the sharing type gal. Also, it wouldn't be surprising that women would hit on Vanity. She was quite magnetic and alluring. The point is she has moved on from her sordid past. I think BlaqueKnight was right in that you could ask this question of any celeb turned born again.

DesireeNevermind said:

yes i agree about that-i wasn't passing judgement on her current or former life. I just wanted to know if anyone here knew which woman(women) she was with
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Many Christians think of homosexuals as fornicators. They are no more afraid of them then they are afraid of Oprah, Goldie Hawn, Halle Berry etc.

I love when homophobes get all upset about the word homophobia.

I love when homophobes get all upset about the word homophobia.

I love when homophobes get all upset about the word homophobia.

Efan said:

There was a time when the word was truly real. People in 1980 WERE often scared shitless by being alone on an elevator with a known homosexual. They did actually panic. They did move or ask to not work next to a homosexual.


A song about kissing a girl and liking it would never have come out then. I think we are dealing with a few psychos and many Christians that take the part of the Bible that doesn't refer to them seriously. I have said it before, no on e gets all up in arms about the greed, yet the Bible clearly mentions the evil of greed too.

My mom worked with a guy named Herby in the 60's and 70's; she had no problem with Herby working side by side with her for nearly 20 years. Yet this same woman would cross the street if she knew a lesbian was walking on the same sidewalk straight to her. Back in the day they were seen as unable to control their sexuality I guess. Even ugly women were afraid that a lesbian was going to make a pass at them. It was like lesbians had no taste in women what so ever. However, back then alot of them wore mullets, so maybe that was where the "no taste" idea came from.

My mom worked with a guy named Herby in the 60's and 70's; she had no problem with Herby working side by side with her for nearly 20 years. Yet this same woman would cross the street if she knew a lesbian was walking on the same sidewalk straight to her. Back in the day they were seen as unable to control their sexuality I guess. Even ugly women were afraid that a lesbian was going to make a pass at them. It was like lesbians had no taste in women what so ever. However, back then alot of them wore mullets, so maybe that was where the "no taste" idea came from.

Efan said:

There was a time when the word was truly real. People in 1980 WERE often scared shitless by being alone on an elevator with a known homosexual. They did actually panic. They did move or ask to not work next to a homosexual.


A song about kissing a girl and liking it would never have come out then. I think we are dealing with a few psychos and many Christians that take the part of the Bible that doesn't refer to them seriously. I have said it before, no on e gets all up in arms about the greed, yet the Bible clearly mentions the evil of greed too.

Deadflow3r said:

Wait a minute. Back then Liberace said he was straight and as long as he said that it was OK with his old lady audience. I lived in a very gay area so I can tell you, even in Provincetown people would gawk at the gays like they gawked at the Amish, no kidding. It was scary for some.
Homophobia still runs rampant in American culture (the recent Maine vote, for example). That fewer people are freaked out by sharing an elevator with a known homosexual is a good thing, sure, but it by no means diminishes the very real examples of homophobia and its effects. I know your issue is with the "phobia" part of it, but get over it. It's a real word, and it has a real definition that doesn't change over quibbling about the root of its suffix. (And I would still argue that it's indeed based on fear--maybe not bogeyman-gonna-get-you kind of fear, but fear nonetheless.)

I will say this, though. I know what it was like in the '80s, and I gotta say, I remember it being a lot gayer than you seem to. That was the time of Prince, Michael Jackson, Boy George, Joan Jett, Dead or Alive, Diana Ross's "I'm Coming Out," etc., etc. And the '70s had some gay pop songs too. I don't think those examples taken in and of themselves speak to the larger issue of homophobia in American culture.

But back on topic: I ain't got no idea what Vanity thinks about the gays.

geez there I go again posting in the middle of someone elses post, WHEN WILL I LEARN!!!!


MARTINA LOST endorsements back then.

Liberace said he was straight and that Sonja Henning was the love of his life back then.

People went to Provincetown to gawk at the homosexuals holding hands.

Many straight people were frightened of going to P-town and would simply not go.

geez there I go again posting in the middle of someone elses post, WHEN WILL I LEARN!!!!


MARTINA LOST endorsements back then.

Liberace said he was straight and that Sonja Henning was the love of his life back then.

People went to Provincetown to gawk at the homosexuals holding hands.

Many straight people were frightened of going to P-town and would simply not go.

Homophobia still runs rampant in American culture (the recent Maine vote, for example). That fewer people are freaked out by sharing an elevator with a known homosexual is a good thing, sure, but it by no means diminishes the very real examples of homophobia and its effects. I know your issue is with the "phobia" part of it, but get over it. It's a real word, and it has a real definition that doesn't change over quibbling about the root of its suffix. (And I would still argue that it's indeed based on fear--maybe not bogeyman-gonna-get-you kind of fear, but fear nonetheless.)

I will say this, though. I know what it was like in the '80s, and I gotta say, I remember it being a lot gayer than you seem to. That was the time of Prince, Michael Jackson, Boy George, Joan Jett, Dead or Alive, Diana Ross's "I'm Coming Out," etc., etc. And the '70s had some gay pop songs too. I don't think those examples taken in and of themselves speak to the larger issue of homophobia in American culture.

But back on topic: I ain't got no idea what Vanity thinks about the gays.

Efan said:

"homophobia" has become a pop culture buzzword that many homosexuals use to inaccurately describe as well as attempt to bully people into a mindset of social acceptance. (i.e, if you don't like the fact that I'm gay then you MUST be afraid of me)
There is a whole spectrum between "don't let any gay near me" and "I love all gays and everything they do just because they are gay" and to pretend otherwise is delusional. Just because someone doesn't approve of a behavior doesn't mean that they hate or fear the person. Here's another newsflash: some people just don't CARE.

I'm sure when they get around to fixing all the injustices of the English language, this will be at the top of the list. Until then, I think you might just be stuck being called a word you don't care for.

And again let me say that I love when homophobes get all upset about the word homophobia.

And again let me say that I love when homophobes get all upset about the word homophobia.

Efan said:

There was a time when the word was truly real. People in 1980 WERE often scared shitless by being alone on an elevator with a known homosexual. They did actually panic. They did move or ask to not work next to a homosexual.

When a person makes a stink about sitting next to a homosexual, they aren't doing it because they are afraid of them. They are doing it to be an asshole, to get laughs from a bunch of other assholes, and to try to publicly humiliate the person.

When a group of rednecks drag a homosexual from a pickup truck with a rope or go driving past a gay club throwing bottles or find a random gay guy walking to his car and gang up and beat the hell out of him, that's not fear, that's hate.

Hell, if the bastards were actually afraid of me, I'd love it. I'd just say "Boo!!!!" and watch their dumb asses run like hell.
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Now this belongs in the P&R section. MODS! A little help over here.