I can’t wait for the new jazz CD to be released. Hopefully Maceo and Candy are invited to improvise on it too. I would really love to hear them play some jazz.

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not very excited about this venture but i will check it out regardless


I hope Jesse's album doesnt get pushed back.. and where is that supposed time album?

I can't imagine it being anything remotely interesting. Prince isn't a jazz artist, he can't do jazz music well. N.E.W.S. is bland, artificial sounding, as is C-Note, Xpectation, and all the other nonsense instrumental crap he's put out. Prince is not a jazz artist. He's just an old man who's lost his mojo.

ernestsewell said:

Before this thread gets locked and your account deleted, might I just add:

I like that addition!

Madhouse first album is jazz
Jazz is a wide subject and it shouldn't be categorized

ernestsewell said:

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If your including the Madhouse project as one of the nonsense instrumental craps he has put out your talking out of your ass.
All instrumental music is not jazz and I never recalled Prince anouncing that the past instrumental projects were jazz.

We have to see what he is going to do with this new project.

Madhouse is jazz
at least first album.
Jazz is a improvised free form of music
it should not be categorized.
When Miles started doing Jazz rock in the late
60's jazz purist argued wheather it
is real jazz or not

squirrelgrease said:

Not bad, but this one is that next level ish:

(why is it always the crazy ones with skills?)

laurarichardson said:

That's the difference between fans of Prince and fans of jazz music: fans of jazz music don't have to wait for Prince to "announce" anything because they already have the capacity to understand music and know what it is when they hear it.
Jazz fans know jazz when they hear it; they don't need someone to tell them what they are listening to - which is highly condescending to a jazz fan, since most jazz is more suited to refined ears.

BlaqueKnight said:

That's the difference between fans of Prince and fans of jazz music: fans of jazz music don't have to wait for Prince to "announce" anything because they already have the capacity to understand music and know what it is when they hear it.
Jazz fans know jazz when they hear it; they don't need someone to tell them what they are listening to - which is highly condescending to a jazz fan, since most jazz is more suited to refined ears. [/quote]
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You do not need to have refined ears to listen to jazz or any of other music.
( You need to take this elistist crap somewhere else)

No one thinks or has seen any of P's instrumental projects marketed as Jazz.
Only a true moron would think he will ever be considered a jazz artist. It has nothing to do with refined ears but just plain old stupidity.

His instrumental stuff is that insturmental music. Some of which is really good
(Madhouse) some boring (Karmastura ) Nothing more to it nothing less.

laurarichardson said:

Oh Laura, Laura. I never said that. Try again.

ernestsewell said:

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I never said you said anything. I said "if by crap instrumentals you mean the Madhouse work your wrong. "
There is nothing crappy about those instrumentals. Not all of P instrumental stuff is crap and you seem to be lumping them all together.

You

Ernie first Madhouse album is great
but it's the matter of taste really

thebanishedone said:

My name is not Ernie, so I'm assuming you're not talking to me. But since Laura brought this up, I myself will state I never meant, NOR SAID, Madhouse was crap.

So for you people who can't think outside the box, let me list the crap AGAIN (as I've done before):

N.E.W.S
Xpectation
C-Note


Capisce?

Sorry Ernest but those albums are maybe crap for you but it's more matter of taste
but tell me your opinion of following songs:
Xpedition
West
Xogenus

thebanishedone said:

Read previous reply.

What jazz CD are you guys talking about, did I miss a thread somewhere?

And Ernest, your opinions are just that, an OPINION. You're doing the same thing you always criticize Bart for, pretending that your opinions are the last word and fact.

Serena said:

Hon, if you're going to try and ride my jock in every thread, I'm going to need dinner, a movie, and some cuddle time afterward. I'm easy, but I ain't sleazy.

ernestsewell said:

I'm not your 'Hon', Ernie, nor am I riding your imaginary jock. There were two threads I was interested in where you happened to be spreading your nasty, negative attitude, that's all.

Serena said:

Weird that honest is suddenly "negative" when someone disagrees with it. Funny, that.

laurarichardson said:

Really? NO ONE thinks Madhouse was a jazz project? No one? GTFOH.
Many people on this very site have called Madhouse jazz. Elitist is usually what stupid people call people who know more than them. You don't NEED to have refined ears or knowledge of music to enjoy jazz - of course not - BUT many music scholars are jazz fans and for good reason. And for what its worth, Prince is a POP artist so there's no reason that any of his work would be "marketed" as jazz even though some of his work contains elements of jazz. Prince's music is usually a hybrid of styles and since he was always a pop/R&B artist, that's where his "marketing" base remained. Now is marketing base is his hardcore fans - none of which has to do with what style of music is ACTUALLY being played. Many artists have done songs in other genres that were marketed as part of a package of songs that fit into their perspective areas.
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If Prince put out some more work along the lines of Madhouse - 8, I'd mos def be excited...I'm an avid listener of many Jazz artists and styles and that one flew completely under the radar due to the fact it was a Paisley Park release, but to myself, it qualified as an awesome debut of something that could have been. At the time it was released, no one wanted to hear Jazz from MPLS, they wanted 80's Prince type MPLS Sound, so I knew it wouldn't last. That's why 16 was much more moved away from Traditional Jazz and to a more funky style. Give me some more of that beauty I found in 8, and I'm on board. Especially if P throws a bunch of upbeat piano and guitar playing tracks. His piano playing is exquisite, yet we hardely hear him play it, well in a "flexing his chops" kind of way. His guitar prowess, well that needs no selling, but he's capable of being known the world over as one of the best players of all time at both instruments. It's debatable whether outside of his Fan Base he is known to be this.

BTW - Eric Leeds is/was and EXCEPTIONAL player, despite the fact he's only found fame through Prince. It's unfortunate because he definitely stands on his own.

BlaqueKnight said:

That's the difference between fans of Prince and fans of jazz music: fans of jazz music don't have to wait for Prince to "announce" anything because they already have the capacity to understand music and know what it is when they hear it.
Jazz fans know jazz when they hear it; they don't need someone to tell them what they are listening to - which is highly condescending to a jazz fan, since most jazz is more suited to refined ears. [/quote]
Ok, not to be a prude but WTH if that banana breaks and gets stuck in her airway!! That is danger!!

BlaqueKnight said:

I think Madhouse was not straight on jazz by any means. Songs like "6" are just funk fusion or whatnot. 16 had a very different, spacial/open feel to it, more than 8 did. 16 almost felt like a jam session. When I think jazz, I think of Miles Davis, or older Herbie Hancock stuff. Madhouse is not quite that, to me, and I'm glad. As much as I'd like to say I'm a jazz fan, I'm just not. I come more loving swing music from the 20's, Big Band, that sort of thing. I loved when Brian Setzer mixed the 50's and Big Band a few years ago. It was a great mix. Madhouse is almost like the new Big Band in some ways.

Ernest Madhouse 8 isn't jazz its fusion (jazz-rock)
other albums you don't like have great musicianship and atmosphere but you
just don't like it and thats ok
lots of orgers like it and thats fine too

thebanishedone said:

You're an idiot. I never said I hated Madhouse. In fact, if you'd take off the blinders, you'd see that I've praised those albums in the past. Gheezus. You people are so hell bent on proving someone wrong, you can't see the truth.

if u ever insult me again
i will report you to moderators
this is your last warning
i never insulted you ever in my life

if you have middle age crisis that don't give you the right to insult anybody.

thebanishedone said:

Then don't misquote me. How about that?

I'm tired of defending something I never did. I NEVER SAID I HATED MADHOUSE. I even listed the instrumental shit that I DO HATE. No one read though, did they? Of course, not. It's easier to pound on a stranger without reading what they said first. Gheezus.

PS I apologize to YOU for that. But please read what I typed, and just don't assume I said one thing.

I swear it's like backwardsville around the fucking Org when you have to prove yourself innocent, instead of the other way around. People think I'M the asshole???! Pffft.
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Ernest i accept your apologize,
but you should read what i write also,i know you dig Madhouse

i just said that Madhouse is fusion look:
Madhouse 8 isn't jazz its fusion (jazz-rock)

and what i said you don't like is :
other albums you don't like have great musicianship and atmosphere but you
C-note Expectations,NEWS