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Thread started 08/09/09 2:11pm

MoneyMade

The question is...Dez or Jesse Johnson.

As the best Prince guitarist...Wendy is not in the same category.
so that was a bad joke whoever made the Dez vs. Wendy comparison.



1 Vote for Dez.
headbang


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Reply #1 posted 08/09/09 2:19pm

MoneyMade

Follow-up

Prince spoke to Dez hmmmm not too long ago
is what Dez told me.

Let's see these two bad boys.
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Reply #2 posted 08/09/09 2:22pm

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Jesse. Hands down. C'mon, Dez can't hold a candle to Jesse's six-string prowess.
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Reply #3 posted 08/09/09 3:58pm

EroticDreamer

Dez has more presence and personality on stage and is a good musician.
Jesse is as dull as powder but can do more with his guitar.
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Reply #4 posted 08/09/09 5:31pm

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Well hell, let me go ahead and post NOW before I get an avalanche of orgnotes saying "C'mon bgz! You HAVE to post on this one!" biggrin Many of u all have already read my posts and or threads dealing with both Jesse and Dez. I don't usually like to compare people who are great at what they do. It's all subjective anyways because it's always based on who someone "prefers". And that's always going to ring different depending on each person. I thought the thread on Stevie Ray vs Jesse was more fitting because both of their styles are more blues based and there are some similar aspects to their playing. In this case though, TOTALLY seperate TYPES of players. I once ran a thread on here a long time ago about how Prince, Dez and Jesse ALL were influenced musically as well as visually by Hendrix. And I asked, out of the 3, which were the MOST Hendrix-like? My point is that's the ONLY similarity between the 3 is their love for Hendrix and being influnced by Hendrix. Now this thread is about just 2 of the 3 that I was talking about but my opinion is STILL the same. Other than Dez and Jesse both digging and emulating Hendrix, their totally two different types of players. Dez obviously is more rock oriented and all of his lead playing echoes this fact. Jesse, who definately is a rock guitarist, is more blues based so that gives him a different sound. So besides Hendrix, they have totally different influences. So therefore, THAT dictates their style of playing. Now as far as technique and skill, as a lead guitarist, to me, I have to say Jesse. I have seen both Dez and Jesse live many times in the early 80's when they played with P and The Time. And I have seen Dez and Jesse live as solo artists later in the mid 80's and in Jesse's case, the late 80's & mid 90's. As MUCH as I LOVE Dez as a player and his image, to me, in my opinion, seeing them in a live setting as guitarists in those situations, Jesse is the more skilled as a guitarist. As good and as cool as Dez is, Jesse absoulutely BLAZES on the axe. But I love them both and both of them have been an influence on me.
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Reply #5 posted 08/09/09 6:01pm

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MoneyMade said:

As the best Prince guitarist...Wendy is not in the same category.
so that was a bad joke whoever made the Dez vs. Wendy comparison.



1 Vote for Dez.
headbang


Regards,
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I think I was the one who started that thread.lol biggrin
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Reply #6 posted 08/09/09 6:02pm

TiMix

I vote for Jesse.

See "Skillet."
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Reply #7 posted 08/09/09 7:46pm

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Dez 4 me
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Reply #8 posted 08/09/09 8:21pm

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I haven't heard much of Dez's stuff. I really liked his solo on "Too Long" and his snippet with him and the long players that was up on youtube until it was taken down like immediately lol. Jesse however, i got his ultimate collection, BMNS, and this blues aftershow he did and going by that I have to give the nod to Jesse.
chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #9 posted 08/09/09 8:23pm

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MajesticOne89 said:

I haven't heard much of Dez's stuff. I really liked his solo on "Too Long" and his snippet with him and the long players that was up on youtube until it was taken down like immediately lol. Jesse however, i got his ultimate collection, BMNS, and this blues aftershow he did and going by that I have to give the nod to Jesse.


chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #10 posted 08/09/09 8:32pm

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MajesticOne89 said:

MajesticOne89 said:

I haven't heard much of Dez's stuff. I really liked his solo on "Too Long" and his snippet with him and the long players that was up on youtube until it was taken down like immediately lol. Jesse however, i got his ultimate collection, BMNS, and this blues aftershow he did and going by that I have to give the nod to Jesse.



Yep, I saw Jesse during 94. Jesse's Bare My Naked Soul is a guitarist's album. I hate that it didn't get major distribution because it sure in the hell deserved it. Jesse is killin' it on that album. Definately his best album, to me.
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Reply #11 posted 08/09/09 8:37pm

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jesse.kicks.ass


dont get me wrong dez is cool but he has very little solo meterial and jesse is more skilled with the axe no contest

i really dont see how anyone could say dez is better, he just doesnt have the credentials.
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Reply #12 posted 08/09/09 8:47pm

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blackguitaristz said:

MajesticOne89 said:




Yep, I saw Jesse during 94. Jesse's Bare My Naked Soul is a guitarist's album. I hate that it didn't get major distribution because it sure in the hell deserved it. Jesse is killin' it on that album. Definately his best album, to me.


This thread got me listening to it right now. It definitely is a great album. Im really excited for his new release. Hopefully I'll get to see him when he goes on tour cool
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Reply #13 posted 08/09/09 8:55pm

blackguitarist
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minneapolisFunq said:



i really dont see how anyone could say dez is better, he just doesnt have the credentials.

That's why I stated that people are going to pick who they like regardless of who is better. wink
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Reply #14 posted 08/09/09 9:24pm

ThreadBare

Jesssseeee....
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Reply #15 posted 08/10/09 12:45am

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ThreadBare said:

Jesssseeee....

What it is, Thread?
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Reply #16 posted 08/10/09 5:49am

ThreadBare

blackguitaristz said:

ThreadBare said:

Jesssseeee....

What it is, Thread?

Chillin', man. Getting the #1 Strat worked on today.
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Reply #17 posted 08/10/09 8:06am

MoneyMade

blackguitaristz said:

Well hell, let me go ahead and post NOW before I get an avalanche of orgnotes saying "C'mon bgz! You HAVE to post on this one!" biggrin Many of u all have already read my posts and or threads dealing with both Jesse and Dez. I don't usually like to compare people who are great at what they do. It's all subjective anyways because it's always based on who someone "prefers". And that's always going to ring different depending on each person. I thought the thread on Stevie Ray vs Jesse was more fitting because both of their styles are more blues based and there are some similar aspects to their playing. In this case though, TOTALLY seperate TYPES of players. I once ran a thread on here a long time ago about how Prince, Dez and Jesse ALL were influenced musically as well as visually by Hendrix. And I asked, out of the 3, which were the MOST Hendrix-like? My point is that's the ONLY similarity between the 3 is their love for Hendrix and being influnced by Hendrix. Now this thread is about just 2 of the 3 that I was talking about but my opinion is STILL the same. Other than Dez and Jesse both digging and emulating Hendrix, their totally two different types of players. Dez obviously is more rock oriented and all of his lead playing echoes this fact. Jesse, who definately is a rock guitarist, is more blues based so that gives him a different sound. So besides Hendrix, they have totally different influences. So therefore, THAT dictates their style of playing. Now as far as technique and skill, as a lead guitarist, to me, I have to say Jesse. I have seen both Dez and Jesse live many times in the early 80's when they played with P and The Time. And I have seen Dez and Jesse live as solo artists later in the mid 80's and in Jesse's case, the late 80's & mid 90's. As MUCH as I LOVE Dez as a player and his image, to me, in my opinion, seeing them in a live setting as guitarists in those situations, Jesse is the more skilled as a guitarist. As good and as cool as Dez is, Jesse absoulutely BLAZES on the axe. But I love them both and both of them have been an influence on me.
[Edited 8/9/09 17:57pm]



Really????!!!!! Name one major rock star jesse johnson was called to perform with as tour guitarist?????

The room goes silent....Dez is the man!!!

It's all in this brother's headband where he gets his powers!




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Reply #18 posted 08/10/09 10:08am

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oh shit...that's a TIE dammit!! they are both masters and equally skilled in rock, jazz, with some blues for addes flavor. cloud9


but uh...why is that they always get compared to Hendrix? I mean every guitarist has probably been influenced by Hendrix among other artist and they have admitted such but dayum is this a tad racial or sumthin'? Like they couldn't have also been influenced by Peter Frampton, Santana. Eric Clapton or BB King? Jus askin'
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Reply #19 posted 08/10/09 10:50am

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I love Dez, but Jesse is the man, hands down cool
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Reply #20 posted 08/10/09 12:58pm

Splanknasty

The answer is Jesse Johnson.

He's the more skilled, productive, prolific and UTTERLY SICK, EVIL AND DANGEROUS guitar player.

No, really. He's one of the great unsung, under-rated heroes of the axe.

Dez Dickerson's that guy who was in Purple Rain.

I kid. I kiiiiid.

But it's true.
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Reply #21 posted 08/10/09 1:00pm

Splanknasty

DesireeNevermind said:

oh shit...that's a TIE dammit!! they are both masters and equally skilled in rock, jazz, with some blues for addes flavor. cloud9


but uh...why is that they always get compared to Hendrix? I mean every guitarist has probably been influenced by Hendrix among other artist and they have admitted such but dayum is this a tad racial or sumthin'? Like they couldn't have also been influenced by Peter Frampton, Santana. Eric Clapton or BB King? Jus askin'


Wait, you think Jesse's not influenced by Hendrix?

He kinda sorta... really is.
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Reply #22 posted 08/10/09 1:10pm

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Splanknasty said:

DesireeNevermind said:

oh shit...that's a TIE dammit!! they are both masters and equally skilled in rock, jazz, with some blues for addes flavor. cloud9


but uh...why is that they always get compared to Hendrix? I mean every guitarist has probably been influenced by Hendrix among other artist and they have admitted such but dayum is this a tad racial or sumthin'? Like they couldn't have also been influenced by Peter Frampton, Santana. Eric Clapton or BB King? Jus askin'


Wait, you think Jesse's not influenced by Hendrix?

He kinda sorta... really is.



I do...he's said so but I thought he's mentioned clapton and King and I just wonder why Hendrix is the only guitarist referred to as an influence in these type threads. there were/are so many great guitarists that have become icons. Bringing up Hendrix all the gatdang time is...i dunno...suspect.
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Reply #23 posted 08/10/09 1:43pm

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MoneyMade said:

blackguitaristz said:

Well hell, let me go ahead and post NOW before I get an avalanche of orgnotes saying "C'mon bgz! You HAVE to post on this one!" biggrin Many of u all have already read my posts and or threads dealing with both Jesse and Dez. I don't usually like to compare people who are great at what they do. It's all subjective anyways because it's always based on who someone "prefers". And that's always going to ring different depending on each person. I thought the thread on Stevie Ray vs Jesse was more fitting because both of their styles are more blues based and there are some similar aspects to their playing. In this case though, TOTALLY seperate TYPES of players. I once ran a thread on here a long time ago about how Prince, Dez and Jesse ALL were influenced musically as well as visually by Hendrix. And I asked, out of the 3, which were the MOST Hendrix-like? My point is that's the ONLY similarity between the 3 is their love for Hendrix and being influnced by Hendrix. Now this thread is about just 2 of the 3 that I was talking about but my opinion is STILL the same. Other than Dez and Jesse both digging and emulating Hendrix, their totally two different types of players. Dez obviously is more rock oriented and all of his lead playing echoes this fact. Jesse, who definately is a rock guitarist, is more blues based so that gives him a different sound. So besides Hendrix, they have totally different influences. So therefore, THAT dictates their style of playing. Now as far as technique and skill, as a lead guitarist, to me, I have to say Jesse. I have seen both Dez and Jesse live many times in the early 80's when they played with P and The Time. And I have seen Dez and Jesse live as solo artists later in the mid 80's and in Jesse's case, the late 80's & mid 90's. As MUCH as I LOVE Dez as a player and his image, to me, in my opinion, seeing them in a live setting as guitarists in those situations, Jesse is the more skilled as a guitarist. As good and as cool as Dez is, Jesse absoulutely BLAZES on the axe. But I love them both and both of them have been an influence on me.
[Edited 8/9/09 17:57pm]



Really????!!!!! Name one major rock star jesse johnson was called to perform with as tour guitarist?????

The room goes silent....Dez is the man!!!

It's all in this brother's headband where he gets his powers!






evillol You're funny. That's your argument?
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Reply #24 posted 08/10/09 3:03pm

Jeffiner

MoneyMade said:

blackguitaristz said:

Well hell, let me go ahead and post NOW before I get an avalanche of orgnotes saying "C'mon bgz! You HAVE to post on this one!" biggrin Many of u all have already read my posts and or threads dealing with both Jesse and Dez. I don't usually like to compare people who are great at what they do. It's all subjective anyways because it's always based on who someone "prefers". And that's always going to ring different depending on each person. I thought the thread on Stevie Ray vs Jesse was more fitting because both of their styles are more blues based and there are some similar aspects to their playing. In this case though, TOTALLY seperate TYPES of players. I once ran a thread on here a long time ago about how Prince, Dez and Jesse ALL were influenced musically as well as visually by Hendrix. And I asked, out of the 3, which were the MOST Hendrix-like? My point is that's the ONLY similarity between the 3 is their love for Hendrix and being influnced by Hendrix. Now this thread is about just 2 of the 3 that I was talking about but my opinion is STILL the same. Other than Dez and Jesse both digging and emulating Hendrix, their totally two different types of players. Dez obviously is more rock oriented and all of his lead playing echoes this fact. Jesse, who definately is a rock guitarist, is more blues based so that gives him a different sound. So besides Hendrix, they have totally different influences. So therefore, THAT dictates their style of playing. Now as far as technique and skill, as a lead guitarist, to me, I have to say Jesse. I have seen both Dez and Jesse live many times in the early 80's when they played with P and The Time. And I have seen Dez and Jesse live as solo artists later in the mid 80's and in Jesse's case, the late 80's & mid 90's. As MUCH as I LOVE Dez as a player and his image, to me, in my opinion, seeing them in a live setting as guitarists in those situations, Jesse is the more skilled as a guitarist. As good and as cool as Dez is, Jesse absoulutely BLAZES on the axe. But I love them both and both of them have been an influence on me.
[Edited 8/9/09 17:57pm]



Really????!!!!! Name one major rock star jesse johnson was called to perform with as tour guitarist?????

The room goes silent....Dez is the man!!!

It's all in this brother's headband where he gets his powers!







lol That's funny! I think you'll find BGZ knows ALL about THAT (with the headband) wink
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Reply #25 posted 08/10/09 7:21pm

LollyPopLife

TIE. Well... Except Dez seems nicer off stage and has infinite stage presence.
Plus, the cut Modernaire... ermmmn, ok. Almost a tie.
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Reply #26 posted 08/10/09 7:25pm

LollyPopLife

(in Dez's favor, I mean).
xxx
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Reply #27 posted 08/10/09 8:41pm

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I always wondered what people thought but I didn't want to ask since they are both great.
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Reply #28 posted 08/10/09 9:01pm

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squirrelgrease said:

MoneyMade said:




Really????!!!!! Name one major rock star jesse johnson was called to perform with as tour guitarist?????

The room goes silent....Dez is the man!!!

It's all in this brother's headband where he gets his powers!






evillol You're funny. That's your argument?


falloff falloff falloff
chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #29 posted 08/10/09 9:07pm

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Jessaaaay!
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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