What makes Bria any less deserving of respect than Vanity, Apollonia, Jill Jones, Carmen Electra or any other woman Prince has "worked" with over the years ? It's rather cruel 2 b so harsh. I remember when Prince and Mayte broke up, like so many here @ Prince.org I was having a fit over who's fault it was, why it all happened, etc, etc. I even posted a sorted little theory as 2 why I thought it was Mayte's fault based on nothing more than Prince's song lyrics. I was young, ASSumptive and totally out of line 4 my speculatory comments. I didn't know Mayte or Prince any more than I'm sure any of u know Ms. Bria Velente. If u dont dig her cd then cool, no1's making u listen 2 it. But on a personal note, wouldn't it b best 2 respect her privacy as well as her feelings ? I never thought I'd see the day where I'd compare myself 2 Chris Crocker but "leave Bria alone" !!!! Come on guys, let's b adults instead of acting like silly high school students who have nothing better 2 do than pick on the new kid. B nice...or b nothing.

-Peace @ least,
Niko
[Edited 6/23/09 0:29am]

She's a public figure. She gave up a certain amount of privacy when she made that fateful decision to become a Prince flavor-of-the-month. Criticism and praise comes with the territory. She's not only panned here, but by just about every critic that gave her CD it's first and last spin.

That said, I kinda like most of her CD.

I'm not one that 'hates on' Bria

I feel sorry for how she was presented

When you compare her to Vanity 6 and certain others, I say no comparison

I just started a Vanity 6 8.11.82 thread
and when I love over it I see the difference
Vanity 6 was on the Times albums, Prince was on their albums there were videos, concerts, 1st Avenue appearances, character, they WERE Purple proteges

Prince didn't do much to present her, is my issue
I think we expect more from something Prince puts out especially for me in the last 3-4 years it seemed Prince was finding some kind of appreciation in his earlier work/musicians and I got really hype coming up to LotusFlow3r release

He could have presented her in a way that made her interesting, I personally like the music, I still listen to my 1976 Prince demos more and on a regular basis, I listen to my 1999 playist mixed in with the 1982 boots, What Time Is It & Vanity 6 albums cause its so interesting

squirrelgrease said:

That's true. Part of the wiki page that kept getting deleted because of THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER showed numerous links to reviews that rated her as bland, boring, "R&B Ambien" (which I loved), etc. One called it "just an average Prince album". Average is NewPowerSoul. Average is Emancipation. Elixer has less flavor than a piece of cardboard.

She's totally irrelevant to the music scene. He DID bring her out in the wrong way. Three nights on Leno, not a peep from her. A fourth night and she relegated to being a prop at the bar. She's on Tavis and people worry more about a pleat on her blouse than they do anything she said, beyond WHEN Morris actually introduced her to Prince. She has yet to sing anything live, and dollars to donuts, she never will.
[Edited 6/23/09 9:25am]

ernestsewell said:

Exactly. Honestly I think that the reason she gets bashed on here is because she IS ON HERE.

What self respecting real artist, and no John Mayer is not an example, goes online and defends themselves with alter egos? What is the point?

Create a base of hardcore "fams" and its all you trying to manipulate the rest of the prince fandom?

I think we can all make stab at truth if we say, yes Prince probably comes online and reads shit.

But does he post? I will say No. The only person that can sway the fans is the artist themselves AS themselves.

No 3rd person, alter ego bullshit unless its part of the act.

Bria is trying to manipulate us and Wiki (roflmao) and its an act of desperation and stupidity and if the internet were around back in the day of Vanity I sure as hell dont think she would be spending her days on the damn net.

She might be getting high and sexing it up, but c'mon. Really?

And as for the point of whether or not she really is on here. I know for certain she was.

But honestly does anyone care but us? And of course, her? I doubt if Prince even cares. God knows Mani was trashed to bits and you never saw some kind of "leave my wife alone" coming from the purple camp.

Dum dum stuff. Although the wiki discussion page is hilarious. Is that you Ernest?

salaciousV said:

She has become like a cartoon character. If she keeps making these foolish choices she may end up as a forever joke like Pia Zadora or Monica Lewinski.

SOmeone post the cock eyed pic!!!! I tried finding it last night but couldn't. I can't help but laugh out loud at the pic.

If you don't, I'll posted dead Prince again. And we know how much you people hate that! (I also have dead Michael Jackson too, btw.)

So let me get this st8, because she's a public figure, has allegedly posted here and some of u dont find her cd "interesting" she's undeserving of respect ? Surely there must b a better xcuse 4 ripping a person 2 shreds than that ! And who's 2 say Vanity or any1 else wouldn't have posted here if the internet were around back in the 80's ? What "artist" or person is "above" feeling a need 2 defend themselves when they're being flat out xecuted by a group of people who haven't even recorded an album (much less with Prince) @ some point in their careers ? As 4 the critics, its their job 2 offer an opinion on the music. They're not speaking about her personally, calling her a whore and a stripper and all these other derogatory terms. Most of what I've read on various posts is purely personal and 4 what...why so neagative ?
Whether its about Bria, Prince or any1 else its just plain useless 2 b a spewer of ill sentiments. I'm not here 2 preach because God knows I've had my moments in the past. I just had 2 speak my mind. @ the end of the day we all have our views but isn't life more pleasant when we choose 2 accentuate the positive ? How many've had ur plus sign 2day.....

-Peace as much as possible,
Niko
[Edited 6/24/09 9:53am]

ernestsewell said:

Hold up. I still say that was a nipple.

nikoaleczander said:

I think everyone sees where you're coming from. Yes, Bria has been the brunt of a million joke threads, but the org is a Prince fan community with a diverse cast of characters. The anonymity of the interwebosphere allows folks to really say what's on their minds without having to be politically correct. You spoke your mind in an attempt to balance the scales, and I respect that. You really can't expect people to not speak their minds - no matter how unflattering the comments may be, do you?

squirrelgrease said:

Do I xpect people 2 stop speaking their minds ? No...I pray 4 minds 2 change. Call me a dreamer.

prince.org is not the evening news or even entertainment tonight. The ONLY people that read anything on here are big P fans, not just Purple Rain fans. If a news anchor was bashing her day after day then maybe I could understand if she felt harassed. Lets not fool ourselves MOST of America has never been on this sight. If she STAYED off of this sight she wouldn't have a clue what was being said to ever get upset to begin with.

Finally, if I was pais a significant amount of money to do a CD that I never had to promote or ever really have to worry if it even sold and a bunch of people bitched about it, I WOULD JUST LAUGH MY WAY ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK!!!!

Bad publicity is better than no publicity at all; Without orgers she would have gotten absolutely no attention since maybe the second week in April. Not even in the Web.

nikoaleczander said:

I for one agree with you, but that's because I could care less about Bria so I don't waste energy on her. I did not care for the album, but I didn't care for Princes either. Doesn't make me want to bust on Prince as a person (not for that anyway). People online have different ways of entertaining themselves, which is fine. I don't get it, but I don't HAVE to. The easiest thing to do is just pass on by the comments about Bria. She's an adult, she can handle herself (did I leave a giant door open with that comment). Anyway- I feel for you, but in many ways this is the WRONG place for you if you're praying for people's minds to change about stuff like this.

nikoaleczander said:

For heaven's sake man, when you can type in English, someone might actually read what you're saying. You're not cool, or hip, or "like Prince" for doing it. Just makes you look we todd did.

Oh, by the way.....BRIA VALENTE'S ALBUM SUCKS DONKEY DICK.

nikoaleczander said:

AMEN!!!!!

well, first of all u mention Bria in th e same breath as Jill Jones...er, Jill Jones can sing. There's a difference right there.

Perhaps if Bria stepped up to the mic some of us would take her more seriously as a singer. She hasn't done that.

Zannaloaf said:

co-sign

nikoaleczander said:

well actually, there is: imo, the way she's presented herself both on the org and housequake has been less than flattering. you don't go on fansites, create several alter-egos and use them to spam the fuck outta the forums about yourself in a really horrible act of self-promotion and come off as extremely narcissistic whilst doing so. it's the online equivalent of going into a room with a paper bag on your head and yelling "OMG HAI I'M BREEUH PRINTZ LET ME DO AN ALBUM SO I'M SPESHUL AND PRETTY AND IM GONNA BE A BIG STAR PREEYONCE LEIKS ME SOOOOO MUCH IM TEH ONE LOLOLOLOLOLOL" and all sorts of stuff along those lines. over and over again. yes, we understand yer excited and it will lead one to be perhaps overzealous in their postings, but there's 2 things that the woman really hasn't grasped the concept of:

1) this is the internet. people sometimes can be incredibly crass on the internet, especially when you present yourself in such a manner.

2) this is the org. people sometimes can be incredibly crass on the org, especially when you present yourself in such a manner.

people aren't making fun of her just for the fun of it. she has more or less brought it on herself, whether people notice this or not. you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar, especially when it comes to the fanbase. any fanbase. all the in-fighting amongst bria and the various other...chicks on the side, i guess, is more sad than anything else if you look at it. it's also really fucking hilarious, in a way. yes, it does get needlessly nasty at times (a LOT of times, even), but on the whole it's hilarious. it's like being in junior high all over again, watching a couple of yer female classmates fight over the most popular boy in school. but i digress...

if bria were to present herself a bit more humble-like online, then perhaps the org masses will too. might not help with how some people view her album, y'know, but still. now if ya'll will excuse me...



...i shall await the next installment of Another Protegee.*


<---- those are mine. don't spend them all in one place.





* you see what i did there.

nikoaleczander said:

If we all took this advice, there'd be no Org.

[Edited 6/23/09 17:59pm]

BSK3478 said:

Hammer on the head!

And another thing. Respect has to be earned if you are a public figure.

Just because Prince released her album doesnt mean I need to go ooh wow ah. I dont have to like her or "her"/P music.

It has to be earned by her. She has to prove to me that she has got the goods. Just cus Prince says it I dont believe it (how many times has he flaked out on us? 10 vault my ass).

I cant stand Lady Gaga. I think shes a sad replica of Madonna and I dont think shes got the goods. But, she is out there cooking it up and earning her street cred hustling on every tv show on the continent singing live (if you can call that singing) and doing her thing. I have respect for that. I just have nothing to say about her music or her vocals.

When alter egos come up here and say the dumbest things over and over and have started fights just to say she "is so hot" and "Prince and her are so in love, you can tell they laugh alot". I mean :vomit:

If she left well enough alone eventually the jokes would subside and another chick would come in to take her place and then we can start in on her. lol.

BSK3478 said:

that's quite a post you got there. You post like an O.G. Orger...

ThreadBare said:

i'm gangsta (glam?).

BSK3478 said:

I can't hear that title without thinking of Tony M., Prince and the pool.




I gotta go cleanse my mental palate now.

ThreadBare said:

i'm sorry.

I have nothing against Bria Valente. I don't know her. I don't hate her album. I am a bit confused as to why I've never seen her sing live or why Prince is not out there on the road with her like he was with Tamar.

If she truly is here under alter accounts, that's just pretty fucking pathetic and I have zero sympathy if she gets her ass handed to her.

These threads about her are getting old Same orgers saying the same things about her on every thread with her name on it Even if she were to perform i don't think most of the orgers that comment on her threads would change their opinion of her. They would find something in her performance or her wardrobe to make fun of. Some people are closed minded and don't give people the benefit of the doubt. They are those people who read those gossip magazines and spread the news even if it wasn't confirmed. Orgers have been saying she was a stripper,,,,,not confirmed. She is crosseyed,,,,not confirmed from her optometrist She is a tranny,,,,,no confirmation from someone who has seen her naked. She has posted on here as a fellow orger,,,,i still haven't seen any proof on these threads. All i've seen is orgers who post nice things about her being told that they are bria using different author names. Come on ya'll, we can only judge by what we see of her pictures and what we hear from her music and vocals.

NibbleOnYaEar said:

Any reason to say anything nice about her,,,,not confirmed by anything she's offered so far.
[Edited 6/23/09 23:45pm]