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Thread started 06/11/09 1:31pm

jeanluis

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The greatest "Black" Band ever...

Earth, Wind, and Fire? Parliment/Funkadelic? Sly Stone? The Time?

If Prince could pick from all he worked with, and form the perfect "dream team" - Who would it be?

He's stated before Morris was a great drummer, but was too flashy. What if he wasn't?

I think if he wasn't so demanding, he could have created a band that could compete with the Beatles, Zepplin, U2, or any four piece band ever.

My pick would be...

Andre Cymone on bass
Morris Day on drums
Jesse Johnson on guitar
Prince on vocals/lead guitar

Just an opinion... I know how passionate you guys are on here! lol

Sure he would have had background singers, special appearances from other folks from the Twin Cities, but the main four mentioned would have been the real "Fab Four"...
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Reply #1 posted 06/11/09 2:40pm

Giovanni777

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jeanluis said:

Earth, Wind, and Fire? Parliment/Funkadelic? Sly Stone? The Time?

If Prince could pick from all he worked with, and form the perfect "dream team" - Who would it be?

He's stated before Morris was a great drummer, but was too flashy. What if he wasn't?

I think if he wasn't so demanding, he could have created a band that could compete with the Beatles, Zeppelin, U2, or any four piece band ever.


My pick would be...

Andre Cymone on bass
Morris Day on drums
Jesse Johnson on guitar
Prince on vocals/lead guitar

Just an opinion... I know how passionate you guys are on here! lol

Sure he would have had background singers, special appearances from other folks from the Twin Cities, but the main four mentioned would have been the real "Fab Four"...


Prince's bands have by far exceeded what those bands did live, with only a possible exception of the mighty Led Zep, and even that is debatable. U2? Please.

Both of these 2 bands were essentially four piece, and they were fantastic:

Drums: John Blackwell
Bass: Rhonda Smith
Guitar: Prince
Keys: Renato Neto


Drums: Cora Dunham
Bass: Josh Dunham
Guitar: Prince
Keys: Morris Hayes

We could add:

Drums: Mike Bland
Bass: Sonny Thomson
Guitar: Prince
Keys: Morris Hayes

Also, the phrase "Black Band"? Most classic Funk bands were integrated, along with all of Prince's bands.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #2 posted 06/11/09 5:26pm

Zannaloaf

Giovanni777 said:

jeanluis said:

Earth, Wind, and Fire? Parliment/Funkadelic? Sly Stone? The Time?

If Prince could pick from all he worked with, and form the perfect "dream team" - Who would it be?

He's stated before Morris was a great drummer, but was too flashy. What if he wasn't?

I think if he wasn't so demanding, he could have created a band that could compete with the Beatles, Zeppelin, U2, or any four piece band ever.


My pick would be...

Andre Cymone on bass
Morris Day on drums
Jesse Johnson on guitar
Prince on vocals/lead guitar

Just an opinion... I know how passionate you guys are on here! lol

Sure he would have had background singers, special appearances from other folks from the Twin Cities, but the main four mentioned would have been the real "Fab Four"...


Prince's bands have by far exceeded what those bands did live, with only a possible exception of the mighty Led Zep, and even that is debatable. U2? Please.

Both of these 2 bands were essentially four piece, and they were fantastic:

Drums: John Blackwell
Bass: Rhonda Smith
Guitar: Prince
Keys: Renato Neto


Drums: Cora Dunham
Bass: Josh Dunham
Guitar: Prince
Keys: Morris Hayes

We could add:

Drums: Mike Bland
Bass: Sonny Thomson
Guitar: Prince
Keys: Morris Hayes

Also, the phrase "Black Band"? Most classic Funk bands were integrated, along with all of Prince's bands.


Clearly you never saw Earth Wind and Fire in their heyday. I would say as a band EWF kicked his bands ass up and down and all around. I'm not talking songs or anything like that - I'm just saying as a full on band.
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Reply #3 posted 06/11/09 5:39pm

lezama

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Drums: Bernard Purdie
Bass: Jaco Pastorius
Guitar: Prince
Keys: Herbie

not a complete black lineup... but when u asked about putting together the best band ever this is what came to mind.
[Edited 6/11/09 17:40pm]
Change it one more time..
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Reply #4 posted 06/11/09 7:29pm

PatricioRey

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Drums: Sheila
Bass: Bootsy
Keys: Herbie
Guitar: Eddie Hazel
Sax: Maceo
Trumpet: Miles
Trombone: Greg Boyer
Whatever: Prince & George Clinton
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Reply #5 posted 06/12/09 6:19am

Graycap23

Zannaloaf said:



Clearly you never saw Earth Wind and Fire in their heyday. I would say as a band EWF kicked his bands ass up and down and all around. I'm not talking songs or anything like that - I'm just saying as a full on band.



Songs? U mean the MOST important element?.....lol.
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Reply #6 posted 06/12/09 6:28am

Zannaloaf

Graycap23 said:

Zannaloaf said:



Clearly you never saw Earth Wind and Fire in their heyday. I would say as a band EWF kicked his bands ass up and down and all around. I'm not talking songs or anything like that - I'm just saying as a full on band.



Songs? U mean the MOST important element?.....lol.


I mean an individuals specific taste in songs. They have a huge catalogue of albums and hit songs - probably somewhat similar to Prince (I'm not taking the time to research this). I like their stuff as well as I like Princes (apples and oranges) but my point was as a BAND - no matter what it is they are playing - they kicked his bands ass. Since this thread was about bands, not songs.
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Reply #7 posted 06/12/09 6:30am

Graycap23

Zannaloaf said:

Graycap23 said:




Songs? U mean the MOST important element?.....lol.


I mean an individuals specific taste in songs. They have a huge catalogue of albums and hit songs - probably somewhat similar to Prince (I'm not taking the time to research this). I like their stuff as well as I like Princes (apples and oranges) but my point was as a BAND - no matter what it is they are playing - they kicked his bands ass. Since this thread was about bands, not songs.

EWF and definitley entertaining no question...but kicked Prince's ass? Not in my book. The ONLY band I ever saw do that was Bootsy.
[Edited 6/12/09 6:53am]
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Reply #8 posted 06/12/09 6:47am

Giovanni777

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Here's a nice lineup with a few friends of mine:

Drums: Sean Rickman
Bass: Meshell Ndegeocello
Guitar: Prince
Keys: Federico Peña

D.C. comes ALIVE!

; )
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Reply #9 posted 06/12/09 8:29pm

Zannaloaf

Graycap23 said:

Zannaloaf said:



I mean an individuals specific taste in songs. They have a huge catalogue of albums and hit songs - probably somewhat similar to Prince (I'm not taking the time to research this). I like their stuff as well as I like Princes (apples and oranges) but my point was as a BAND - no matter what it is they are playing - they kicked his bands ass. Since this thread was about bands, not songs.

EWF and definitley entertaining no question...but kicked Prince's ass? Not in my book. The ONLY band I ever saw do that was Bootsy.
[Edited 6/12/09 6:53am]


and the year that you saw EWF was?????
Cause it's true the further away you got from the 70s the less great it was. I'd love to say Parliament/Funkadelic. But I never saw a whole show where someone was clearly out of it - you know...like overly tired or **sumthin'** lol
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Reply #10 posted 06/13/09 10:19am

Graycap23

I saw them mostly from about 1975 through about 1981.
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Reply #11 posted 06/15/09 8:51am

dollwoman

Sly's band wasn't all black but the man was brilliant. He was also MESSED UP to the max. I think it pains everyone that he couldn't ever get his act together again. He came on the seen with his oven sound and that crazy pimpolicious look of his. As I kid I love to sing "Stand" and "Everyday People" and my daughter loves it now. His stuff doesn't die.
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Reply #12 posted 06/15/09 6:00pm

Zannaloaf

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I saw them mostly from about 1975 through about 1981.


78-83 for me. still think they did it best as far as a whole band.
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Reply #13 posted 06/16/09 6:04am

Graycap23

Zannaloaf said:

Graycap23 said:

I saw them mostly from about 1975 through about 1981.


78-83 for me. still think they did it best as far as a whole band.

They are great. I think it depends also on the music. I'll take Prince, P-Funk and Bootsy over anyone in that category.
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Reply #14 posted 06/16/09 7:39am

coltrane3

Not saying they're the best black band ever, but I would note Mint Condition for being an incredible band. Can't really compare to earlier eras as I never saw acts like EWF live, but I have seen MC live on multiple occasions and they're the real deal. We need more real bands.
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Reply #15 posted 06/16/09 7:42am

Graycap23

coltrane3 said:

Not saying they're the best black band ever, but I would note Mint Condition for being an incredible band. Can't really compare to earlier eras as I never saw acts like EWF live, but I have seen MC live on multiple occastions and they're the real deal. We need more real bands.

Now u know.....I'm going 2 agree with u.
Love those cats.
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Reply #16 posted 06/16/09 4:41pm

Zannaloaf

Graycap23 said:

Zannaloaf said:



78-83 for me. still think they did it best as far as a whole band.

They are great. I think it depends also on the music. I'll take Prince, P-Funk and Bootsy over anyone in that category.


I guess I saw P-Funk with half the band messed up on some kind of something. the two shows I saw were sloppy pieces of doo doo. The half that wasn't are the ones to go on to successful solo careers wink

I love Bootsy live, but I also liked the slow jams- and his never quite did it for me.
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Reply #17 posted 06/17/09 10:52am

Brofie

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Zannaloaf said:

Graycap23 said:


They are great. I think it depends also on the music. I'll take Prince, P-Funk and Bootsy over anyone in that category.


I guess I saw P-Funk with half the band messed up on some kind of something. the two shows I saw were sloppy pieces of doo doo. The half that wasn't are the ones to go on to successful solo careers wink

I love Bootsy live, but I also liked the slow jams- and his never quite did it for me.



All P Funk shows after the70s are sloppy drug and alcohol tinged affairs. I stopped going to see them in the early 90s because it simply wasnt writ the money to see 40 black dudes wondering the stage screaming and not playing anything right.
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Reply #18 posted 06/19/09 7:22am

Zannaloaf

Brofie said:

Zannaloaf said:



I guess I saw P-Funk with half the band messed up on some kind of something. the two shows I saw were sloppy pieces of doo doo. The half that wasn't are the ones to go on to successful solo careers wink

I love Bootsy live, but I also liked the slow jams- and his never quite did it for me.



All P Funk shows after the70s are sloppy drug and alcohol tinged affairs. I stopped going to see them in the early 90s because it simply wasnt writ the money to see 40 black dudes wondering the stage screaming and not playing anything right.


LOL.
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