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Reply #30 posted 06/17/09 4:32am

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I've like everybody 4 the most part...however, "The "Sex me," and the rap in "Joint 2 Joint," are just terrible. I'm sorry. cool
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Reply #31 posted 06/17/09 8:04am

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I've like everybody 4 the most part...however, "The "Sex me," and the rap in "Joint 2 Joint," are just terrible. I'm sorry. cool

Poet 99 (or who ever she was) was horrible on "Joint 2 Joint".
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Reply #32 posted 06/17/09 8:19am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

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Wow.

I would HAVE 2 say JJ (Jill Jones), because of the way she complimented those MANY records she was on.

On their own as singers, I would then mention Boni, Rosie and Shelby.

But how many recordings were they on compared 2 Jill?

With all the beating Bria has been getting here lately, I gotta say that her backgrounds were very effective on both '3121' and 'Planet Earth', as well as the recent releases. Folks didn't know it was her on 'Planet Earth', which is officially the most under-rated Prince album ever.

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Can you give me an example of Jill's skills? I don't even know if I could identify her voice without someone telling me it's her lol



To a degree that's the point, the women singer like Shelby to me are overbearing, and live to hard at times

Jill is a trained singer and you hear her breaking thru on the Ladder, the 2nd half(long version of Kiss) and of course Lady Cab Driver (her trained vocals made those Screams of Passion sound just right wink )

She's on everything from the Time Vanity 6 Prince Sheila E Mazarati & I believe the Family
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Reply #33 posted 06/17/09 8:27am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



I'm not joking. I couldn't name one song that I know her backing vox from! I assume stuff from 1999 cuz she was in the videos but pure backing vox, I couldn't name one single song boxed



OH! Well it's like trying 2 think of all the movies Gary Oldman has been in.

1999 - PRINCE (Warner Bros.) : Backing Vocals on "1999", "Automatic", "Free", featured vocal on "Lady Cab Driver".

PURPLE RAIN - PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION (Warner Bros.) : Backing Vocals.

"THE BELLE OF ST. MARK" - Sheila E(Warner Bros.) : Backing vocals.

APOLLONIA 6 - APOLLONIA 6 (Warner Bros.) : Backing Vocals on "Oo She She Wa Wa".

"MANIC MONDAY" - THE BANGLES (Columbia) : Featured Backing Vocals (uncredited).

MAZARATI - MAZARATI (Paisley Park / Warner Bros.) : Backing Vocals on "Strawberry Lover" and "I Guess It's All Over".

PRINCE - "HELLO" (Paisley Park/Warner Bros.) : Uncredited backing vocals

PRINCE - SIGN O' THE TIMES (Paisley Park / Warner Bros.) : Co-lead vocals on "It's gonna be a Beautiful Night".

"GOOD LOVE" - PRINCE (uncredited backing vocals)


I'm sure I'm missing some.
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You listed a good number there

she did a few backing vocals on ATWIAD especially the LADDER
since she was the Beautiful Friend that was there during the incident, it was fitting that she sang back up on Hello
I was sittin' pretty with a beautiful friend ("Oh darling")
When this man tries 2 get in the car

of course her own Paisley Park release

Jill did a lot of studio work for Prince and his albums
and a lot of it wasn't always credited.
She talks about it on her website/myspace
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Reply #34 posted 06/17/09 9:13am

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squirrelgrease said:

My favorites would be Wendy and Lisa. Best... I don't know, maybe Jill Jones.


Jill Jones? jeez - Marva King, Boni Boyer, Rosie Gaines all better than Jill
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Reply #35 posted 06/17/09 9:31am

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Brofie said:

squirrelgrease said:

My favorites would be Wendy and Lisa. Best... I don't know, maybe Jill Jones.


Jill Jones? jeez - Marva King, Boni Boyer, Rosie Gaines all better than Jill


Well, that's debatable. Jill's vocals on her Paisley Park LP were astonishing. Sweet mixed with a sexual vibe that Boni and Rosie could never pull off. I'm sure that Boni and Rosie could hit notes Jill could only dream of, but that doesn't make them "better". As background vox are concerned, Jill added a nice flavor to Prince's gumbo. I love Boni and Rosie's efforts (especially Boni's), but they seemed to have a hard time holding back their wailing (for lack of a better word) on some cuts. Marva? Not a fan.
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Reply #36 posted 06/17/09 9:42am

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I just love what Chanté Moore did with "Lalala Means I Love You"

Great vocal arrangement.
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Reply #37 posted 06/17/09 10:39am

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daPrettyman said:

Tame said:

I've like everybody 4 the most part...however, "The "Sex me," and the rap in "Joint 2 Joint," are just terrible. I'm sorry. cool

Poet 99 (or who ever she was) was horrible on "Joint 2 Joint".


she really wasn't "on" it cause prince just lifted some of her poetry from the tracks they had worked on and placed them on joint 2 joint
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #38 posted 06/17/09 10:51am

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squirrelgrease said:

Brofie said:



Jill Jones? jeez - Marva King, Boni Boyer, Rosie Gaines all better than Jill


Well, that's debatable. Jill's vocals on her Paisley Park LP were astonishing. Sweet mixed with a sexual vibe that Boni and Rosie could never pull off. I'm sure that Boni and Rosie could hit notes Jill could only dream of, but that doesn't make them "better". As background vox are concerned, Jill added a nice flavor to Prince's gumbo. I love Boni and Rosie's efforts (especially Boni's), but they seemed to have a hard time holding back their wailing (for lack of a better word) on some cuts. Marva? Not a fan.


You explained it really well

That's one thing I didn't care much with Bonnie but even more with Rosie is the, get down and have church belting out sounds. Not saying they can't sing, but to me it doesn't + add + to Prince's music, it begins to sound like every other new soul curcuit review

I did like Boni much better than Rosie, she stayed in good bounds with the Black Album & Lovesexy

Cat also did good background work too

but Jill has good range and much more range than was exhibited on the Purple Music she sang back up for, because it wasn't meant to be overbearing but subtle and sensual, she cut loose just a bit on the Ladder & Kiss(extended)
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Reply #39 posted 06/17/09 11:22am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

daPrettyman said:


Poet 99 (or who ever she was) was horrible on "Joint 2 Joint".


she really wasn't "on" it cause prince just lifted some of her poetry from the tracks they had worked on and placed them on joint 2 joint

Maybe so, but she still is "on" the song and the flow sucked.
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Reply #40 posted 06/17/09 11:24am

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squirrelgrease said:

Brofie said:



Jill Jones? jeez - Marva King, Boni Boyer, Rosie Gaines all better than Jill


Well, that's debatable. Jill's vocals on her Paisley Park LP were astonishing. Sweet mixed with a sexual vibe that Boni and Rosie could never pull off. I'm sure that Boni and Rosie could hit notes Jill could only dream of, but that doesn't make them "better". As background vox are concerned, Jill added a nice flavor to Prince's gumbo. I love Boni and Rosie's efforts (especially Boni's), but they seemed to have a hard time holding back their wailing (for lack of a better word) on some cuts. Marva? Not a fan.


Me either. She's my least favorite.
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Reply #41 posted 06/17/09 12:51pm

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Reply #42 posted 06/17/09 1:55pm

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Iam really surprised noone as of yet thought Sheila E to be a good back ground Vocalist.Iam the on one LOLOLOLOl
The reason iparticularly like Rosie,and Sheila is because ican actually hear their vocies on any Prince song. His vocals(which are strong/good even in falsetto)
doesnt drown theirs out.
With the other female vocalists Prince's vocals drown theirs out
Ican barely hear Wendy, Lisa or jill when they are singing.

Ido realize that musicians and song writers alreadyhave their minds made up on whois going to sing what part and how that person vocals willcome across.The question is did prince ask Rosie to sing loudly on various songs and asked Wendy,Lisa and Jill to
sing softly on various songs.That is a some thingthat remains to be answered.
Ipersonally think itwas a lil bit of both.
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Reply #43 posted 06/17/09 2:38pm

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squirrelgrease said:

My favorites would be Wendy and Lisa. Best... I don't know, maybe Jill Jones.



My 3 favorites too

Jills vocals are found in a lot of his music from 1981-Graffiti Bridge i believe

She did background on the Time, Sheila E & Mazarati too

Hello Kiss Parade, ATWIAD and many more

I don't like a female voice that's too overbearing(Shelby) or too distinct: I love songs by Rosie G(her work)
Boni I loved her voice too, and she did good in not being overbearing or much too distinct,

Lisa Wendy Jill & Susannah blended with his music well and they felt like muses, not solo artists

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Reply #44 posted 06/17/09 6:45pm

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Also, I must say that his backup vocalists on the live Leno version of "Ol Skool Company" were the best live backups I've ever heard from P.

Shelby, Elisa Fioriello, and Liv Warfield.


I love this also but my fav is Rosie. Who was singing with him on chocolate invasion, the last song, U make my sunshine? Just wondering if that was jill. Peace yall
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Reply #45 posted 06/17/09 7:50pm

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janecarol said:

Giovanni777 said:

Also, I must say that his backup vocalists on the live Leno version of "Ol Skool Company" were the best live backups I've ever heard from P.

Shelby, Elisa Fioriello, and Liv Warfield.


I love this also but my fav is Rosie. Who was singing with him on chocolate invasion, the last song, U make my sunshine? Just wondering if that was jill. Peace yall



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man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #46 posted 06/17/09 7:51pm

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Rosie.
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Reply #47 posted 06/18/09 7:15pm

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BriaVelveeta said:

daPrettyman said:


Did he have a sex change or something? I thought the topic was FEMALE? lol

lol
Well, we haven't seen him in awhile, now have we?


He was in the audience at the 7/7/7 concert. I had better seats than he did. lol
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Reply #48 posted 06/18/09 7:27pm

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but Jill has good range and much more range than was exhibited on the Purple Music she sang back up for, because it wasn't meant to be overbearing but subtle and sensual, she cut loose just a bit on the Ladder & Kiss(extended)
Saul Saul don't U touch that channel[/quote]


I think it is Susannah who is cutting loose on the Ladder. Jill isn't listed as a backup singer on this. My favorite is Rosie.
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Reply #49 posted 06/18/09 8:51pm

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Iam really surprised noone as of yet thought Sheila E to be a good back ground Vocalist.Iam the on one LOLOLOLOl
The reason iparticularly like Rosie,and Sheila is because ican actually hear their vocies on any Prince song. His vocals(which are strong/good even in falsetto)
doesnt drown theirs out.
With the other female vocalists Prince's vocals drown theirs out
Ican barely hear Wendy, Lisa or jill when they are singing.

Ido realize that musicians and song writers alreadyhave their minds made up on whois going to sing what part and how that person vocals willcome across.The question is did prince ask Rosie to sing loudly on various songs and asked Wendy,Lisa and Jill to
sing softly on various songs.That is a some thingthat remains to be answered.
Ipersonally think itwas a lil bit of both.


I was thinking about Sheila too but thought of her more as a side act/protege

I don't think she did enough to be compared as a background vocalist

Actually Wendy & Lisa's vocals are very distinct, Jills Taj Susannah would do more blending

For example, a lot of Wendys and Lisa's vocals sounded like Hello, Love or Money, Sometimes It Snows In April

I think Lisa has a strong vocal than Wendy, I've heard enough live shows prior to Wendy joining and her vocal solo on 1999 I was dreaming...

Wendy's has a nice airy touch and it sounds well when blending with other vocals

Sheila colead on Erotic City
background on Girls & Boys and I don't remember other pre sott, she was very distinct on Black Album Lovesexy and certain Graffiti Bridge songs
But I think because she was a frontman and tended to shadow Prince her voice was used on as a background plus 2
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Reply #50 posted 06/18/09 11:49pm

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Reply #51 posted 06/19/09 6:43am

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motherfunka said:

BriaVelveeta said:


lol
Well, we haven't seen him in awhile, now have we?


He was in the audience at the 7/7/7 concert. I had better seats than he did. lol

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Reply #52 posted 06/19/09 6:46am

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squirrelgrease said:

Brofie said:



Jill Jones? jeez - Marva King, Boni Boyer, Rosie Gaines all better than Jill


Well, that's debatable. Jill's vocals on her Paisley Park LP were astonishing. Sweet mixed with a sexual vibe that Boni and Rosie could never pull off. I'm sure that Boni and Rosie could hit notes Jill could only dream of, but that doesn't make them "better". As background vox are concerned, Jill added a nice flavor to Prince's gumbo. I love Boni and Rosie's efforts (especially Boni's), but they seemed to have a hard time holding back their wailing (for lack of a better word) on some cuts. Marva? Not a fan.


You not being a fan doesnt mean they arent better than Jones.
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Reply #53 posted 06/19/09 7:18am

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Brofie said:

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Well, that's debatable. Jill's vocals on her Paisley Park LP were astonishing. Sweet mixed with a sexual vibe that Boni and Rosie could never pull off. I'm sure that Boni and Rosie could hit notes Jill could only dream of, but that doesn't make them "better". As background vox are concerned, Jill added a nice flavor to Prince's gumbo. I love Boni and Rosie's efforts (especially Boni's), but they seemed to have a hard time holding back their wailing (for lack of a better word) on some cuts. Marva? Not a fan.


You not being a fan doesnt mean they arent better than Jones.

I'm not a huge fan of either, but I would pick Jill over Marva. I don't think the question is about being better. I think it's more about the favorite female vocalist that compliments P's music better.

To be fair, they both bring something different to the table. Marva being more "gospel" and raspy than Jill.
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Reply #54 posted 06/19/09 10:55am

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motherfunka said:

but Jill has good range and much more range than was exhibited on the Purple Music she sang back up for, because it wasn't meant to be overbearing but subtle and sensual, she cut loose just a bit on the Ladder & Kiss(extended)
Saul Saul don't U touch that channel



I think it is Susannah who is cutting loose on the Ladder. Jill isn't listed as a backup singer on this. My favorite is Rosie.[/quote]


it's not jill, it's not susannah ..it's taja sevelle listed as taj
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Reply #55 posted 06/19/09 11:11am

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Brofie said:

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Well, that's debatable. Jill's vocals on her Paisley Park LP were astonishing. Sweet mixed with a sexual vibe that Boni and Rosie could never pull off. I'm sure that Boni and Rosie could hit notes Jill could only dream of, but that doesn't make them "better". As background vox are concerned, Jill added a nice flavor to Prince's gumbo. I love Boni and Rosie's efforts (especially Boni's), but they seemed to have a hard time holding back their wailing (for lack of a better word) on some cuts. Marva? Not a fan.


You not being a fan doesnt mean they arent better than Jones.


Of course. But I am a fan of Boni and Rosie. I just don't care for Marva. I prefer others in Prince's camp in the role of back-up vocalist, which was the initial thread starter's question.
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Reply #56 posted 06/19/09 12:08pm

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Rosie and Shelby J are my two favorites. That may be because they contrasted with Prince's. I have listened to Planet Earth and 3121 to specifically to hear Bria's vocals and maybe I should not admit this but I can't pick her out. This may be exactly what effect he wanted for those two CD's; less of a contrast and more of a subtle blend. After hearing Rosie and Shelby J I started to look for more work that they had done.
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Reply #57 posted 06/19/09 3:55pm

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Jill Jones.


Maybe not the best, but defintely my favourite.

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Ditto. Auntie Jill is my all-time favorite female back ground vocalist.
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Reply #58 posted 06/20/09 4:18pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

motherfunka said:

but Jill has good range and much more range than was exhibited on the Purple Music she sang back up for, because it wasn't meant to be overbearing but subtle and sensual, she cut loose just a bit on the Ladder & Kiss(extended)
Saul Saul don't U touch that channel



I think it is Susannah who is cutting loose on the Ladder. Jill isn't listed as a backup singer on this. My favorite is Rosie.



it's not jill, it's not susannah ..it's taja sevelle listed as taj[/quote]


It sounds like Susannah to me.
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Reply #59 posted 06/20/09 4:52pm

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motherfunka said:

L4OATheOriginal said:




it's not jill, it's not susannah ..it's taja sevelle listed as taj



It sounds like Susannah to me.


at the end of the song u can tell it's taja if u have taja's album, her voice is easy 2 point out
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