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Printable The Extended Revolution was great, so glad I saw them back in 1986 in Rotterdam. And I admired Dr. Fink - I still have the Nude Tour Book he threw into the crown in Heerenveen a few years later. I love Prince and chocolate - in that order | |
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Gotta read this later. Looks interesting. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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Can someone not write a 100 word summary. http://www.goldiesparade.co.uk/ - Prince discography, tour history, news and more. | |
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GoldiesParade said: Can someone not write a 100 word summary.
I don't understand what you mean? Are you refering to the interview? | |
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GoldiesParade said: Can someone not write a 100 word summary.
kinda lazy...dontcha think? What- you only watch movies, never read books?  |
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GoldiesParade said: Can someone not write a 100 word summary.
Summary: Prince ran the show and stories of great influence from certain band members is highly overblown. | |
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Very enjoyable read, thank you.
Alan's very articulate & seems to take to analyzing the issues. Matt's well spoken, too. I did not realize that he left Prince's service willingly. If he'd been on D&P, he would have extended his record as the longest tenured Prince band member. Every now and then
There comes a time you must defend Your right to die and live again -- And again, and again... | |
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Nice ya'll thanks!  | |
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Great interview and read. Alan is on point on serveral topics. It was good to read an honest interview without the dumping on and tearing Prince down. Prince's Sarah | |
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OldFriends4Sale said: twistee said: I thought Leeds hit it dead-on when he said:
Sure - Michael B & Sonny T are tight together, and they make a great power trio with Prince... And I guess NPG music is more "traditional" (soul, R&B) than the Revolution was... But I can see how The Revolution was more "interesting". So I'm curious - anybody prefer the NPG? Might be his best 'RnB' section but that isn't Prince music Prince was Uptown, Purple Music, Rock Funk Psychedelic Jazz I prefere the Revolution over the NPG I prefere the noituloveR over the NPG I prefere the SOTT/Lovesexy NewPower band over the NPG the Revolution members were also the DirtyMind/Controversy band too give or take:Wendy, Dez, Andre, Gayle ----- Having listened to a wide vary of live recordings over the years. I think some of P's NPG line ups were better live. Just my opinion. | |
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Nice Read! |
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I actually liked the NPG FUNK much better than the Revolution but I like the Revolution's creativity and diversity in their music. But, the NPG was about pure old fashion FUNK and bless them for it!
Two different bands and two different sides of Prince. Get the funk up! | |
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Graycap23 said: GoldiesParade said: Can someone not write a 100 word summary.
Summary: Prince ran the show and stories of great influence from certain band members is highly overblown. um...not. |
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NouveauDance said: Great read.
"But I never felt he got everything he could have out of players with such diverse vocabularies as Sheila and Eric." -- So true. Alan hits the nail on the head every time. I deeply respect Alan Leeds, obviously he's a living encyclopedia and has worked so hard for so many great artists... But I can't help but feel that statement about Sheila and Eric is just because he was around back then and Eric's his brother. I mean, I sense he's being just too partial to his interests on the matter. Can't blame him for that, but the way I see it, it's more about "space and time" than anything else. What I mean is it all depend on the current times, age, background and all. What was on fire way back in 1987, and under THOSE circumstances (personal or social) doesn't mean to make the same sense in any other period. |
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FINK:Later on down the road, 10 years after leaving Prince and then reconnecting with him again, expressed my interest in working with him again, but he really did not seem to care about that at that time and did not really want to go there. Other members of the Revolution have also tried to see if he’d be interested in a reunion of sorts—and not necessarily usurp his current band members, but just to do a separate side-project or possible live dates with the Revolution or a side-album as a reunion effort—but so far, with several of those offers being made to him by each band member, he’s those them down, pretty much—or totally—since about 2000 and then other points during this current decade. There’s been overtures made to him. So, that I regret. I have some regrets about that and wish that he would work with us again in some capacity, because the desire is there on the part of the band members.
C'mon Prince. Throw 'em a bone. Do some shows. Don't make 'em beg, fer cryin' out loud. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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NouveauDance said: Great read.
"But I never felt he got everything he could have out of players with such diverse vocabularies as Sheila and Eric." -- So true. Alan hits the nail on the head every time. I was hoping for another Madhouse of sorts after the three killed it on "Everlasting Now" at Leno. Oh well.  [Edited 6/9/09 6:22am] | |
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psyche2 said: NouveauDance said: Great read.
"But I never felt he got everything he could have out of players with such diverse vocabularies as Sheila and Eric." -- So true. Alan hits the nail on the head every time. I deeply respect Alan Leeds, obviously he's a living encyclopedia and has worked so hard for so many great artists... But I can't help but feel that statement about Sheila and Eric is just because he was around back then and Eric's his brother. I mean, I sense he's being just too partial to his interests on the matter. Can't blame him for that, but the way I see it, it's more about "space and time" than anything else. What I mean is it all depend on the current times, age, background and all. What was on fire way back in 1987, and under THOSE circumstances (personal or social) doesn't mean to make the same sense in any other period. I love Sheila & Erics contribution I don't think they had the song writing/composition chemistry that Prince had with Wendy & Lisa / Susannah. I love Sheila as a protege and definately as a assistant frontman on percussion. As much as I loved her on the drums during SOTT/Lovesexy I prefer her on the percussion. Eric brought a good sound to Purple Music via sax/flute Eddie M's sound was very Prince like too but a different style. Temptation the Ladder, America live | |
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N2Spontaneity said: I actually liked the NPG FUNK much better than the Revolution but I like the Revolution's creativity and diversity in their music. But, the NPG was about pure old fashion FUNK and bless them for it!
Two different bands and two different sides of Prince. True it's the creativity & diversity in my opinion that represents Prince, the Revolution live with that creativity & diversity is a very Prince sounding show I think that is why even in the last 5 years Prince's shows include more and more covers and old school soul, I don't think he would get away with that with the 1980-1986 band. the NPG doesn't help Prince expand, the way the Revolution did. | |
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laurarichardson said: OldFriends4Sale said: Might be his best 'RnB' section but that isn't Prince music Prince was Uptown, Purple Music, Rock Funk Psychedelic Jazz I prefere the Revolution over the NPG I prefere the noituloveR over the NPG I prefere the SOTT/Lovesexy NewPower band over the NPG the Revolution members were also the DirtyMind/Controversy band too give or take:Wendy, Dez, Andre, Gayle ----- Having listened to a wide vary of live recordings over the years. I think some of P's NPG line ups were better live. Just my opinion. Possibly But your dealing with a comparison of hearing a band of musicians that played up to 1986-the Revolution versus NPG bands who played up to 2009 Now if Prince had the Revolution & the NPG from 1980-1986 then you could compare them live or both band continually playing up till 2009 I'd have to say that Revolution/SOTT musicians continued to hone their craft and get better yet we don't hear them as a band | |
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People just care about the Revolution because they were Prince's backing band during the PR and Parade tours, which are two of his most classic. And because they are in the PR movie and had a higher profile.
There's no reason for Prince to do a "reunion" album or tour with them because they really didn't add or change much as this interviews reminds everyone (of the obvious). It would be ONLY for purposes of nostalgia if he did a tour with them and Prince likes to move forward not backwards. | |
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Graycap23 said: GoldiesParade said: Can someone not write a 100 word summary.
Summary: Prince ran the show and stories of great influence from certain band members is highly overblown.  "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Interesting that Dr Fink confirms here that 'Around the World in a Day' and 'Parade' were nearly ALL Prince.
He did the same type of over generous credits (full band) with 'Lovesexy', as well, which we know was mostly all P. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Giovanni777 said: Interesting that Dr Fink confirms here that 'Around the World in a Day' and 'Parade' were nearly ALL Prince.
He did the same type of over generous credits (full band) with 'Lovesexy', as well, which we know was mostly all P. He did not need 2 confirm it.....it is OBVIOUS. | |
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Giovanni777 said: Interesting that Dr Fink confirms here that 'Around the World in a Day' and 'Parade' were nearly ALL Prince.
He did the same type of over generous credits (full band) with 'Lovesexy', as well, which we know was mostly all P. I think that's as in writing of songs but Around the World in a Day(song) was a composition by David Coleman and America was a Revolution composition Like Matt said, a lot of the songs came about thru extended rehearsals/jam sessions and a band member might create a rhythm, or through one on one or band with Prince talks, and Wendy & Lisa did do a lot of song writing with Prince much more than the rest of the band. Parade was mostly with Wendy Lisa & Prince Mountains was a Revolution composition but Prince wrote the lyrics Kiss was a Brown Mark Mazarati Prince composition New Position was written during Controversy and Wendy & Lisa pulled it out the vault for a remake. according to Wendy & Lisa in a recent interview Sometimes It Snows in April came about with them hanging out in Prince's home studio and it was made that way | |
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FunkiestOne said: People just care about the Revolution because they were Prince's backing band during the PR and Parade tours, which are two of his most classic. And because they are in the PR movie and had a higher profile.
There's no reason for Prince to do a "reunion" album or tour with them because they really didn't add or change much as this interviews reminds everyone (of the obvious). It would be ONLY for purposes of nostalgia if he did a tour with them and Prince likes to move forward not backwards. Everyone like to move forward and not backwards But didn't he call up older band members for the 3 nights of Jay Leno? Doesn't he call up Sheila Wendy & Lisa to do shows/performances? Is that really moving backwards? I don't think so It's one thing to try to recapture something, but another when you dealing with relationships with people Is he moving backwards when on Tavis Smiley 2009 he called Andre Cymone one of his best friends? Is he moving backwards or is Susannah moving backwards since they have been talking more, talking more about the music the Family 2.0 is making | |
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OldFriends4Sale said: FunkiestOne said: People just care about the Revolution because they were Prince's backing band during the PR and Parade tours, which are two of his most classic. And because they are in the PR movie and had a higher profile.
There's no reason for Prince to do a "reunion" album or tour with them because they really didn't add or change much as this interviews reminds everyone (of the obvious). It would be ONLY for purposes of nostalgia if he did a tour with them and Prince likes to move forward not backwards. Everyone like to move forward and not backwards But didn't he call up older band members for the 3 nights of Jay Leno? Doesn't he call up Sheila Wendy & Lisa to do shows/performances? Is that really moving backwards? I don't think so It's one thing to try to recapture something, but another when you dealing with relationships with people Is he moving backwards when on Tavis Smiley 2009 he called Andre Cymone one of his best friends? Is he moving backwards or is Susannah moving backwards since they have been talking more, talking more about the music the Family 2.0 is making ??? They played NEW music on Leno..... | |
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Graycap23 said: OldFriends4Sale said: Everyone like to move forward and not backwards But didn't he call up older band members for the 3 nights of Jay Leno? Doesn't he call up Sheila Wendy & Lisa to do shows/performances? Is that really moving backwards? I don't think so It's one thing to try to recapture something, but another when you dealing with relationships with people Is he moving backwards when on Tavis Smiley 2009 he called Andre Cymone one of his best friends? Is he moving backwards or is Susannah moving backwards since they have been talking more, talking more about the music the Family 2.0 is making ??? They played NEW music on Leno..... what does that have to do with it? I'm talking about working with old(no longer) band members, who also played mostly songs that were not new at the LA shows When Sheila is on stage with him they play old and new When Wendy played with him on the Tavis Smiley show 2004 they played Reflections When Wendy Lisa & Sheila joined him with the band & the Twinz on the Brit show they did old and new, songs whose renditions were played with while W&L Sheila & Prince were hanging out at his house Wendy joined him in Minneapolis 7.7.07 (Lisa couldn't make it) for the Target Show & 1st Avenue after show, song that ranged from the Prince album 2 the Planet Earth album Sheila at the Macy's & 1st Avenue aftershow [Edited 6/9/09 8:21am] | |
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Prince has worked with Eric Leeds alot since P.R.-Alan is a diffent story,after 1989.
Eric Leeds is a Very cool guy I met him once!At a show. | |
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OldFriends4Sale said: Everyone like to move forward and not backwards But didn't he call up older band members for the 3 nights of Jay Leno? Doesn't he call up Sheila Wendy & Lisa to do shows/performances? Is that really moving backwards? I don't think so It's one thing to try to recapture something, but another when you dealing with relationships with people Is he moving backwards when on Tavis Smiley 2009 he called Andre Cymone one of his best friends? Is he moving backwards or is Susannah moving backwards since they have been talking more, talking more about the music the Family 2.0 is making I don't think using different band members at different times is the same as re-forming the Revolution and performing under that moniker, which would make it a nostalgia act. These people are/were his friends and he admires their talents. That doesn't mean he's living in the past just because he likes performing with them. | |
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Serena said: OldFriends4Sale said: Everyone like to move forward and not backwards But didn't he call up older band members for the 3 nights of Jay Leno? Doesn't he call up Sheila Wendy & Lisa to do shows/performances? Is that really moving backwards? I don't think so It's one thing to try to recapture something, but another when you dealing with relationships with people Is he moving backwards when on Tavis Smiley 2009 he called Andre Cymone one of his best friends? Is he moving backwards or is Susannah moving backwards since they have been talking more, talking more about the music the Family 2.0 is making I don't think using different band members at different times is the same as re-forming the Revolution and performing under that moniker, which would make it a nostalgia act. These people are/were his friends and he admires their talents. That doesn't mean he's living in the past just because he likes performing with them. I agree, but didn't even Prince call for a reunion somewhere around the Rave period, or was that just 4 the show, Wendy & Lisa didn't make it. And he did want to put out the Roadhouse Garden album around that time too... which is a P & the Revolution album or would be Do you think if he did that it would necissarily be called P & the Revolution? | |
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