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Thread started 05/13/09 7:52pm

zoetruluv

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Was Tamar's talent too much for Prince?

I really dont see how
he could let someone with this kind of talent
get away.
I dont care how many of you
dont like her "style" or whatever,
this woman has undeniable talent.
Its scary to realize that
people who dont even have 1/2 the talent
she has are at the top
or being pushed into the limelight.
maybe prince is just incapable
of handling such great talent.
...then he turned to me and said "I dare you".
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Reply #1 posted 05/13/09 8:25pm

utopia7

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There are two sides to the story .....lets stop bashing the guy over his head
you ever think maybe the record company set to distribute didn't want to go ahead.

and obviously it appears Tamar went a total different direction with the producer she worked with after Prince.


Milk & Honey made it's way out anyway did Tamar and Prince get paid, who knows
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Reply #2 posted 05/13/09 9:41pm

zoetruluv

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utopia7 said:

There are two sides to the story .....lets stop bashing the guy over his head
you ever think maybe the record company set to distribute didn't want to go ahead.

and obviously it appears Tamar went a total different direction with the producer she worked with after Prince.


Milk & Honey made it's way out anyway did Tamar and Prince get paid, who knows

whos bashing?
it was a question.
...then he turned to me and said "I dare you".
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Reply #3 posted 05/14/09 9:22am

utopia7

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zoetruluv said:

utopia7 said:

There are two sides to the story .....lets stop bashing the guy over his head
you ever think maybe the record company set to distribute didn't want to go ahead.

and obviously it appears Tamar went a total different direction with the producer she worked with after Prince.


Milk & Honey made it's way out anyway did Tamar and Prince get paid, who knows

whos bashing?
it was a question.



The majority of thread regarding Tamar are in the vein of Prince-did-her-wrong
or victimizing her. I would think if anything one-sided occurred she would be smart enough to get legal guidance.Perhaps she should be interviewed to lay this 2 year old grievance to rest.

With the multitude of musicians/singers Prince has worked with Tamar is not above his musical comprehension.If anything he was in her corner.
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Reply #4 posted 05/14/09 1:54pm

zoetruluv

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The majority of thread regarding Tamar are in the vein of Prince-did-her-wrong
or victimizing her. I would think if anything one-sided occurred she would be smart enough to get legal guidance.Perhaps she should be interviewed to lay this 2 year old grievance to rest.

With the multitude of musicians/singers Prince has worked with Tamar is not above his musical comprehension.If anything he was in her corner.


I believe that Prince
was headed the right way with Tamar
but something went wrong.
Id like to blame everything on the record company.
but Prince is 2 smart 4 that.
why not distribute her record on his own?
why did he NEED a major record label?
and Prince knows how record labels can be.
i would think he knew that there
could be some screw ups in the process.
why would he still bargain with her talent?
and you talk about all these great talents
hes been with before.
when are their records coming out?
and what i said is true!
no one is victimizing her.
if anything,im giving her props.
does that upset you?
no one said prince is shallow and only
puts effort forth
when it comes to maintaining
a sexual realtionship with
the new protegee
but i could have easily said it.
i know you may like to think of prince
as some dude always looking out
for the people he works with,
but in reality...
if they go along with his current style,
good.
when hes done with them,
he only looks out for himself.
...then he turned to me and said "I dare you".
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Reply #5 posted 05/14/09 3:06pm

pplrain

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She did not want to go with Prince's organic way of distributing her album...?
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Reply #6 posted 05/14/09 4:00pm

zoetruluv

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pplrain said:

She did not want to go with Prince's organic way of distributing her album...?

is that a question? lol
...then he turned to me and said "I dare you".
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Reply #7 posted 05/14/09 5:23pm

motherfunka

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Funny. I felt the same way about Rosie Gaines after her departure from the NPG. Although looking back now I don't think it is Prince's fault that she didn't succeed. He gave her the "spotlight" but she didn't deliver. People just weren't into "her" style of music. She could tear the hell out of some Aretha songs though, and she really sounded good with Prince.
TRUE BLUE
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Reply #8 posted 05/14/09 6:24pm

zoetruluv

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motherfunka said:

Funny. I felt the same way about Rosie Gaines after her departure from the NPG. Although looking back now I don't think it is Prince's fault that she didn't succeed. He gave her the "spotlight" but she didn't deliver. People just weren't into "her" style of music. She could tear the hell out of some Aretha songs though, and she really sounded good with Prince.

i love rosie!

but with tamar,i saw actual interest.
i remember people i knew
asking me about the girl in prince's
"fury" video.
im thinking they were reerring to the twins
but they were talking about tamar.
and then after gma,i got a whole lot of questions
concerning tamar.
i think prince could have manipulated this curiousity
like he usually does.
...then he turned to me and said "I dare you".
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Reply #9 posted 05/14/09 7:34pm

utopia7

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I don't lose sleep over what should or should not have occurred 2 years ago...
there is music to be heard now whether or not it's received well or not.
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Reply #10 posted 05/14/09 7:37pm

nurseV

I think he genuinely supported Tamar-it just wasn't meant to be.
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Reply #11 posted 05/14/09 8:05pm

zoetruluv

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utopia7 said:

I don't lose sleep over what should or should not have occurred 2 years ago...
there is music to be heard now whether or not it's received well or not.

you dont lose sleep over it
but you do choose to
drop your 2 cent
more than once on a thread about it.
biggrin
...then he turned to me and said "I dare you".
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Reply #12 posted 05/14/09 8:39pm

utopia7

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zoetruluv said:

utopia7 said:

I don't lose sleep over what should or should not have occurred 2 years ago...
there is music to be heard now whether or not it's received well or not.

you dont lose sleep over it
but you do choose to
drop your 2 cent
more than once on a thread about it.
biggrin



because it's tired and it should be known just like you took the time to create another thread on top of the thousands of others threads with the same topic.You made a thread. You got a response.

The End
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Reply #13 posted 05/14/09 10:37pm

zoetruluv

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utopia7 said:

zoetruluv said:


you dont lose sleep over it
but you do choose to
drop your 2 cent
more than once on a thread about it.
biggrin



because it's tired and it should be known just like you took the time to create another thread on top of the thousands of others threads with the same topic.You made a thread. You got a response.

The End

and only a couple people responded.
i guess many people feel the same
way you do.
only you have no self-control.
thanks for letting me know
how much power i have over you.
cool
...then he turned to me and said "I dare you".
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Reply #14 posted 05/14/09 10:58pm

DesireeNevermi
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They broke up and so Tamar didn't get the support she needed from Prince. His love comes at a price. I don't care if it was 2 or 10 years ago. Past is prologue. Prince neva gonna learn. confused
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Reply #15 posted 05/15/09 5:44am

SoulAlive

These days,is Prince really capable of making anybody a star? We're not in the 80s anymore.Sure,Bria's CD was released but let's face it...she will be forgotten in a few months from now.I doubt that she will have a long,successful career.
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Reply #16 posted 05/15/09 10:07am

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SoulAlive said:

These days,is Prince really capable of making anybody a star? We're not in the 80s anymore.Sure,Bria's CD was released but let's face it...she will be forgotten in a few months from now.I doubt that she will have a long,successful career.



You are speaking the absolute truth.
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Reply #17 posted 05/15/09 4:33pm

motherfunka

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SoulAlive said:

These days,is Prince really capable of making anybody a star? We're not in the 80s anymore.Sure,Bria's CD was released but let's face it...she will be forgotten in a few months from now.I doubt that she will have a long,successful career.

Was he ever capable, except for Sheila E? Most of the people I can think of dropped one album that didn't sell and then that was it.
TRUE BLUE
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Reply #18 posted 05/16/09 3:50pm

4bjb

zoetruluv said:

I really dont see how
he could let someone with this kind of talent
get away.
I dont care how many of you
dont like her "style" or whatever,
this woman has undeniable talent.
Its scary to realize that
people who dont even have 1/2 the talent
she has are at the top
or being pushed into the limelight.
maybe prince is just incapable
of handling such great talent.


absolutely not!!! Tamar recent cd did not even make the top 200. so what does that tell you?
Lemme
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Reply #19 posted 05/16/09 4:01pm

zoetruluv

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4bjb said:

zoetruluv said:

I really dont see how
he could let someone with this kind of talent
get away.
I dont care how many of you
dont like her "style" or whatever,
this woman has undeniable talent.
Its scary to realize that
people who dont even have 1/2 the talent
she has are at the top
or being pushed into the limelight.
maybe prince is just incapable
of handling such great talent.


absolutely not!!! Tamar recent cd did not even make the top 200. so what does that tell you?

it tells me the state
of music is shitty.
who was in the top 200?
britney?
give me a fuckin break with
that type of argument.
and i didnt even know tamar's cd was
out already.
ill cop that b4 any other corny ass protegee's.
...then he turned to me and said "I dare you".
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Reply #20 posted 05/16/09 7:10pm

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SoulAlive said:

These days,is Prince really capable of making anybody a star? We're not in the 80s anymore.Sure,Bria's CD was released but let's face it...she will be forgotten in a few months from now.I doubt that she will have a long,successful career.


clapping

It could be that Tamar is better off without him. boxed

Once again, I point to Alexander Oneal, Jam and Lewis, the 3 tony's.

Sure several of these acts got exposure through Prince but if they had linger on, he would have stifled their style, and we would not have:

the Control album by Janet, or

If you were here tonight (an old school RB slow jam classic) or

It never Rains in California.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #21 posted 05/17/09 8:18am

lezama

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zoetruluv said:

I really dont see how
he could let someone with this kind of talent
get away.
I dont care how many of you
dont like her "style" or whatever,
this woman has undeniable talent.
Its scary to realize that
people who dont even have 1/2 the talent
she has are at the top
or being pushed into the limelight.
maybe prince is just incapable
of handling such great talent


Ummm... the man tried to get her album picked up... its not his fault no body wanted her.

Was it Prince's fault her next album didn't get picked up either???
Change it one more time..
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Reply #22 posted 05/17/09 8:20am

lezama

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motherfunka said:

SoulAlive said:

These days,is Prince really capable of making anybody a star? We're not in the 80s anymore.Sure,Bria's CD was released but let's face it...she will be forgotten in a few months from now.I doubt that she will have a long,successful career.

Was he ever capable, except for Sheila E? Most of the people I can think of dropped one album that didn't sell and then that was it.


Its not up to Prince to keep people in the spotlight. If they really want it, they'll do what it takes to stay there. There's people affilitated with P that did nothing after him and there's people that continued to work in the industry and made meager livings. The only people who ultimately determine their fates are the people themselves!
Change it one more time..
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Reply #23 posted 05/17/09 11:55am

4bjb

lezama said:

zoetruluv said:

I really dont see how
he could let someone with this kind of talent
get away.
I dont care how many of you
dont like her "style" or whatever,
this woman has undeniable talent.
Its scary to realize that
people who dont even have 1/2 the talent
she has are at the top
or being pushed into the limelight.
maybe prince is just incapable
of handling such great talent





Ummm... the man tried to get her album picked up... its not his fault no body wanted her.

Was it Prince's fault her next album didn't get picked up either???


u said it!!!that's just what i'm talking bout.
Lemme
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Reply #24 posted 05/17/09 2:28pm

motherfunka

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lezama said:

motherfunka said:


Was he ever capable, except for Sheila E? Most of the people I can think of dropped one album that didn't sell and then that was it.


Its not up to Prince to keep people in the spotlight. If they really want it, they'll do what it takes to stay there. There's people affilitated with P that did nothing after him and there's people that continued to work in the industry and made meager livings. The only people who ultimately determine their fates are the people themselves!

I didn't say it was up to him to keep them in the spotlight. The question was "Is he still capable"? I asked "Was he ever"?
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Reply #25 posted 05/17/09 5:30pm

zoetruluv

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lezama said:

zoetruluv said:

I really dont see how
he could let someone with this kind of talent
get away.
I dont care how many of you
dont like her "style" or whatever,
this woman has undeniable talent.
Its scary to realize that
people who dont even have 1/2 the talent
she has are at the top
or being pushed into the limelight.
maybe prince is just incapable
of handling such great talent


Ummm... the man tried to get her album picked up... its not his fault no body wanted her.

Was it Prince's fault her next album didn't get picked up either???

and why do you think he packaged bria's
album with his own?
nobody wanted that shit either.
he couldve done the same for tamar.
only her album would have been surprisingly endearing
for a first timer.
and 4bjb aka bria...relax.
you are sooo damn obvious,
its not even funny anymore.
...then he turned to me and said "I dare you".
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Reply #26 posted 05/17/09 5:39pm

salaciousV

zoetruluv said:

lezama said:



Ummm... the man tried to get her album picked up... its not his fault no body wanted her.

Was it Prince's fault her next album didn't get picked up either???

and why do you think he packaged bria's
album with his own?
nobody wanted that shit either.
he couldve done the same for tamar.
only her album would have been surprisingly endearing
for a first timer.
and 4bjb aka bria...relax.
you are sooo damn obvious,
its not even funny anymore.



falloff

dont think 4bjb is B..lol but maybe its one of her other sisters?

spit
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Reply #27 posted 05/18/09 3:54pm

nikkihugh

4bjb said:

zoetruluv said:

I really dont see how
he could let someone with this kind of talent
get away.
I dont care how many of you
dont like her "style" or whatever,
this woman has undeniable talent.
Its scary to realize that
people who dont even have 1/2 the talent
she has are at the top
or being pushed into the limelight.
maybe prince is just incapable
of handling such great talent.


absolutely not!!! Tamar recent cd did not even make the top 200. so what does that tell you?


Tamar has a new CD out? When did this happen?
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Reply #28 posted 05/19/09 12:47am

angelface22

disbelief lol

As an observer, im just going to say the obvious. the only people that would honestly care about bria or her music SO much are her friends or family. be smart, think about it, no one knows the girl and everyone on here signed up to read about prince and his music. 4bjb, wunderlandmine, warhol etc are on a constant parade with bria banners. you diss anyone who says anything disagreeable to what they see with her or hear. to make it even more noticeable, there are some who try to make her look innocent and holy and also take it upon themselves to think they wear a halo as well... then they play themselves when they go hate on other women like TAMAR or any other girl associated with prince. "your" words dont hold any value or worthiness of respect the moment you become a hypocrite to what youre preachin sista.

i show love where its due and from the get-go i never thought bria to be a "prince" type. her music bored me but i didnt form an opinion of like or dislike to her i just didnt 'notice' her.

however, that woman, lisa is beautiful, i also thought mani was too and i realize this is off topic, but after seeing certain users exhaustingly drag out how 'great' bria is, then coming on other forums to diss others, i dont think they realize they are trying too hard and its obvious to everyone outside looking in.

just sayin

get a grip

tamar definitely had a lovely voice to me. if you got it, you got it. if you dont, you just dont.



shrug

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Reply #29 posted 05/19/09 4:14am

Virgo

Motherfunka said:
Funny. I felt the same way about Rosie Gaines after her departure from the NPG. Although looking back now I don't think it is Prince's fault that she didn't succeed. He gave her the "spotlight" but she didn't deliver. People just weren't into "her" style of music. She could tear the hell out of some Aretha songs though, and she really sounded good with Prince.


Rosie had 3 quite big hitsingles in the UK and in Europe, so some people were into her music. "Closer than close" made it to no. 4 in the UK, and that song as well as "I surrender" were all over the place in 1997. She also did a duet with Gary Barlow, can't remember the title, which was also very succesful.
Personally, I wasn't particularly into any of these songs, but I remember thinking how remarkable it was that someone actually did this well, post- Prince. Couldn't think of anyone else that got this much radioplay and such chart positions.
(For that matter very few, if any, got it while still at Paisley).
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