bigjohnrrt said: He's "One in a Million"
Brainwashed Prince into the JW. I'll never forgive him for that. I'm sure Larry is crushed. I guess Prince is just some brainless sucker to his fans then? No ability to control himself? I think he does what he wants. JW is a convenient way to deal with his past of treating people like crap. Instead of calling and apologizing he can go door to door witnessing to strangers. Much easier than excising your demons. | |
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garywobby said: Am I the only one that couldn't stand this man? He ruined the Rave un2 dvd, Rave un2 cd and new power soul.
I HATE him with a passion. I HATE people like him. They make me sick. Larry is sexist and homophobic. Stating that his religion is 'the truth' makes ME SICK to the stomach. When he was on sinbad with prince talking about how jesus died How the fuck does he know how jesus died? | |
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garywobby said: Am I the only one that couldn't stand this man? He ruined the Rave un2 dvd, Rave un2 cd and new power soul.
this thread is about 10 years too late! it would be like me making a thread about Y2k TODAY hahaha... | |
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goodlookingmofo said: How the fuck does he know how jesus died? you can get shunned for asking that question it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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tat2s said: garywobby said: Am I the only one that couldn't stand this man? He ruined the Rave un2 dvd, Rave un2 cd and new power soul.
this thread is about 10 years too late! it would be like me making a thread about Y2k TODAY hahaha... True..Unfortunately, It won't be the last time either. If it wasn't for Larry's 1976 "Mirror" album, there would be no SOTT!! Prince has been a GCS and Sly Stone fan for years. When I heard the "Mirror" album in 92', I couldnt believe the similarity. | |
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Never liked this cat.....he KNOWS why. | |
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Graycap23 said: Never liked this cat.....he KNOWS why.
you mean personally or as a player? If as a player- are you Louis Johnson?? | |
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Larry's music is Great. I think he's a nice guy and so is his wife Tina. I think they got bad Raps and it's UNFOUNDED. After Mayte Prince's music changed. He is following a different direction. I think he sounds Great. | |
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goodlookingmofo said: garywobby said: Am I the only one that couldn't stand this man? He ruined the Rave un2 dvd, Rave un2 cd and new power soul.
I HATE him with a passion. I HATE people like him. They make me sick. Larry is sexist and homophobic. Stating that his religion is 'the truth' makes ME SICK to the stomach. When he was on sinbad with prince talking about how jesus died How the fuck does he know how jesus died? In my experience, all Jehovah's Witnesses speak like that. All refer to their religion as 'The Truth', as does JW literature such as 'The Watchtower' etc. JW's accept the entire Bible as 'true' and infallible'; the literal word of God, so they (unfortunately) accept its pronouncements regarding homosexuality and gender roles. This is not Larry Graham specific. If George Benson is a JW in good standing he feels the same way. As to whether Larry is an extreme Homophobe, I see little evidence of that. He was quite happy to hang with Prince when he had long hair and was covered in make-up and wearing lace and PVC. Having stated that, I must make clear that I do not personally agree with the Bibles view of homosexuality at all. | |
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I was talking with a friend the other day about this and they said that they like the new stuff P is doing but it seems like something has been sucked from him( the words they used not me) I said okay but like what and all they could point to about his music being different and sounding drained is the fact that he is part of a brain washing group known as the JW's they said it's like the true gift that God gave P left him when he became a part of the JW's because of the control they have over the followers of that group. I thought it was very intresting and the friend that said this is a true Prince fan but can't litsen to the newer stuff because it makes them sad. I said I'm not sure it's all the Jw's fault but it could be that he needs to take a break and live life find a wife have some kids and than come back to music. Larry is a very nice man but when you don't know the real truth you can't hip nobody else to it. Proverbs 23:9 | |
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Not true comedian Sinbad introduce them to each other in the mid nineties. So U can blame Sinbad. But Larry is Prince musical idol. What is wrong with adding ur musical idol 2 ur own band? Prince had a lot of issues when he met Larry. He lost his father and Mother with in six months. He lost his first child. He annulled his marriage 2 Mayte. Prince needed a shoulder 2 cry on and Larry was there 4 him. Leave Larry alone he is gone now. So find something else 2 complain about. Which I know u will. SPYZFAN1 said: For the young haters that may not know, Larry and P have known each other since 1979. They were both on the same label at one time. And P has already mentioned this.
P wouldn't even play the bass the way he does if it wasn't for Larry. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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OperatingThetan said: goodlookingmofo said: I HATE him with a passion. I HATE people like him. They make me sick. Larry is sexist and homophobic. Stating that his religion is 'the truth' makes ME SICK to the stomach. When he was on sinbad with prince talking about how jesus died How the fuck does he know how jesus died? In my experience, all Jehovah's Witnesses speak like that. All refer to their religion as 'The Truth', as does JW literature such as 'The Watchtower' etc. JW's accept the entire Bible as 'true' and infallible'; the literal word of God, so they (unfortunately) accept its pronouncements regarding homosexuality and gender roles. This is not Larry Graham specific. If George Benson is a JW in good standing he feels the same way. As to whether Larry is an extreme Homophobe, I see little evidence of that. He was quite happy to hang with Prince when he had long hair and was covered in make-up and wearing lace and PVC. Having stated that, I must make clear that I do not personally agree with the Bibles view of homosexuality at all. fuck george too then | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: that's what a lot of y'all do when it comes 2 larry. y'all act like he put a gun 2 prince's head and said convert..instead of realising it was PRINCE that saught out Larry. the man is a musical genius and a very nice 2 talk 2 if u got the chance 2 meet him. without larry, bass playing would have been nowhere the way it was being played then or now. so step off haters and realize that prince was a grown ass man making his own decisions ..don't like it? 2 FUCKING BAD!! it's been 12 years since they've hooked up ..get over it thank you. | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: that's what a lot of y'all do when it comes 2 larry. y'all act like he put a gun 2 prince's head and said convert..instead of realising it was PRINCE that saught out Larry. the man is a musical genius and a very nice 2 talk 2 if u got the chance 2 meet him. without larry, bass playing would have been nowhere the way it was being played then or now. so step off haters and realize that prince was a grown ass man making his own decisions ..don't like it? 2 FUCKING BAD!! it's been 12 years since they've hooked up ..get over it It's like the people who post these threads think they will be the one to ultimately topple either the artist themselves, or the people the artist is around, or the fans that like the artist. "Energy is neither created mor destroyed, it is simply transferred."(first law of thermodynamics) In other words, this ain't the first time we've heard this, and it won't be the last. | |
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I thought Chaka's cd was the best of the 3 too. Personally, I don't like Larry performing with Prince. I think his voice is horrible. I don't remember which performance it was, but it was on tv and Prince had reworked "The Cross" and changed it to "The Christ" and Larry took over the second verse...I was HORRIFIED!!! lol TRUE BLUE | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: errant said: all of this is true. and yet... when it comes to his involvement with Prince and his work, he sucks major ass. sorry. really? without larry graham prince wouldn't have been who he was and where is he is 2day ..think about it Larry G is the baddest bass player on the planet and a cool cat. Nuff said. | |
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wunderlandmine said: L4OATheOriginal said: really? without larry graham prince wouldn't have been who he was and where is he is 2day ..think about it Larry G is the baddest bass player on the planet and a cool cat. Nuff said. flea is better and isn;t a sexist, homophobic jesus freak. | |
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wunderlandmine said: L4OATheOriginal said: really? without larry graham prince wouldn't have been who he was and where is he is 2day ..think about it Larry G is the baddest bass player on the planet and a cool cat. Nuff said. Lol.....I'll take Bootsy, Marcus Miller, Victor Wooten or Stanley Clark. | |
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Graycap23 said: wunderlandmine said: Larry G is the baddest bass player on the planet and a cool cat. Nuff said. Lol.....I'll take Bootsy, Marcus Miller, Victor Wooten or Stanley Clark. bootsy is my fav bass player ever | |
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errant said: don't forget that he ruined Prince too.
and had a part in the divorce.and every show he shows up at, taking his shoes off and his wife dancing around with that damned towel. | |
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jodi081630 said: errant said: don't forget that he ruined Prince too. :nod: and had a part in the divorce.and every show he shows up at, taking his shoes off and his wife dancing around with that damned towel. Which one?? Proverbs 23:9 | |
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Personally, I couldn't care less about all that private stuff P is doing, whatever he believes in, does private wise in terms of religion and stuff, and whatever Graham's role in it is, I don't care either.
But I noticed there is so much hating going on when in comes to Larry Graham music-wise - and this is something I just don't get. He's one of the most important bass players in history, period. Actually he was maybe the most important member of the early Family Stone, his albums with GCS are all-time classics, and HE was the one that even taught Bootsy Collins how to slap! There's no discussing the fact that he's the best bassist Prince ever had the honour to play with. I'm not too much into his recent entertainment stuff on stage with Prince either, but as a bassist, you simply cannot doubt him. | |
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jackblack said: Dayclear said: From what I've learned Larry Graham helped Prince thru a very hard time in his life and he is much more than just a musical partner with him, he is a friend so the Haters need to leave this shit alone.
I didnt know they were that close. It must be hard for Prince to read comments like "he sucks major ass" about his close friend. Fans are ruthless and so disfunctional! Sad sad sad | |
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mayrain said: jodi081630 said: and had a part in the divorce.
Which one?? | |
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jodi081630 said: jackblack said: I didnt know they were that close. It must be hard for Prince to read comments like "he sucks major ass" about his close friend. Fans are ruthless and so disfunctional! Sad sad sad I recall Prince did a Japan press tour RIGHT after that for Emancipation. Did Larry make him go? | |
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(it's not like I wanna bump an already "dead" thread, but since the other recent thread about Larry Graham is locked..... then here we go!).
These are EXCERPTS from an article that explains the relations between Prince & Larry Graham, why Prince doesn't curse no more, biblical studies between the two, etc..: from: "Notorious" (released back in 1999): Doesn't this convince you that Larry Graham is to blame for the change that happened to Prince around 1998, the whole JW thing?? My purpose by posting this, is to open (some of) your's eyes to the fact that Larry Graham is an amazing & brilliant bass player, but he is also to blame for a bad change in Prince's beliefs/ personality/ whatever that is called, In the 1980s and most of the 1990s: Prince was a wonderful "sexual revolutionary" - he was "dangerous" - critical towards the established, then he changed to become "a conservative" - a member of a sect - who changed his beautiful lyrics and wouldn't curse no more. THIS is just how I view it (and I guess most of the older Prince fans), what about YOU, how do you view this ? Don't you agree it's kind of sad what happened to Prince ? The Artist / feat. Larry Graham: [Edited 5/30/09 17:21pm] [Edited 5/30/09 17:22pm] Prince 4Ever. | |
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YALL BETTER GROOVE RIGHT NOW !
[Edited 5/30/09 18:05pm] | |
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toejam said: Enough said . That sounded good... not old, or old school nostalgia... just plain good! Larry's good... even if he is a goody 2 shoes and a really nice guy "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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funkpill said: at least Larry knew how to pick a girl singer... pretty face AND a pretty voice! "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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