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Thread started 04/07/09 1:45pm

Brofie

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Does Prince get enough credit for making Carmen Electra?

She is done now but everything she got came from her good forune of being chosen and invented by Prince. She was just another stank midwest white chick who thought she could sex her way into Hollywood before he blessed her.
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Reply #1 posted 04/07/09 2:17pm

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There's a lot of truth in what you say but at this point in time no one even mentions or acknowledges her association with Prince. We know there was one, she still uses the name he came up with, but enough guys who jacked off to PLAYBOY or Baywatch could care less where she came from.
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Reply #2 posted 04/07/09 2:18pm

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I don't think she got her part in Baywatch or her Playboy editorials because of her connection to Prince.
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Reply #3 posted 04/07/09 3:11pm

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why bring her colour into it? what relevance is her being white?
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Reply #4 posted 04/07/09 3:14pm

Brofie

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moussemaker said:

I don't think she got her part in Baywatch or her Playboy editorials because of her connection to Prince.


People knew who she was to consider her for those jobs because of her connection with Prince. Her first professional jobs came from Prince. You dont think she told every producer she auditioned for that she toured and recorded an album with Prince? You dont think that name that Prince gave her didnt make them remember her? She was begging Prince for work after he moved on to Mayte. He let her do the floor show in Glam Slam where hundreds of Hollywood types saw her.
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Reply #5 posted 04/07/09 3:16pm

Brofie

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jpd said:

why bring her colour into it? what relevance is her being white?


The same relevance that she was stank has. Because the majority of stanks in Hollywood are white and the majority that get anywhere that way are white - I know from first hand experience. Or just turn on your TV or radio.
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Reply #6 posted 04/07/09 3:30pm

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He promoted her in 1992-93, and she only started Baywatch four years later.


I just listened to the D&P tour intro tonight...
On Carmen
This is our future. She is the scariest female on the planet. She is inevitable. She is addictive. To listen to her music on a loud system is to come a thousand times..."lol Wtf?
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Reply #7 posted 04/07/09 4:44pm

Brofie

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moussemaker said:

He promoted her in 1992-93, and she only started Baywatch four years later.


I just listened to the D&P tour intro tonight...
On Carmen
This is our future. She is the scariest female on the planet. She is inevitable. She is addictive. To listen to her music on a loud system is to come a thousand times..."lol Wtf?

So what? She had a resume and a name because of Prince. You cant seperate the most substantial work she had done with the most famous aratist she was connected with just because that lightweight TV show was 4 years later. Get smart. Her career is where it is now because her 15 minute sof fame is over. In fact, if she wasnt acting a fool with Dennis Rodman, she would have been forgotten earlier than she was. Smell the coffee
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Reply #8 posted 04/07/09 6:44pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

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why bring her colour into it? what relevance is her being white?



Sorry 2 disappoint U. But Carmen Elektra is not white...She is of mix heritage.With dyed hair.....
eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #9 posted 04/07/09 10:42pm

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I don't think he does and it's because of the way it ended. Hefner did say that she got the Pictorial because of her Connection to PRINCE and it sold because of that,but Carmen got the acting jobs by following in Pam Anderson and JennyMCCARTHEY'S FOOTSTEPS. Didn't Vanity get where she did because of PRINCE? But, Vanity always mentioned and talked about him , I really think what killed her most was that after she left PRINCE he NEVER PROBABLY TALKED TO HER. SHE didn't give him a CHANCE and couldn't wait for PURPLE RAIN to make her FAMOUS. PLUS she wanted MORE MONEY and wanted MOTOWN. Prince Owns her Name so what does this Mean?
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Reply #10 posted 04/07/09 10:52pm

MRGee

All of these girls used SEX to get PRINCE and what did he DO? NOTHING WORKED. NOT for ROBIN,CARMEN,SHELIA or MAYTE.....BECAUSE as APPOLONIA said.....he is MARRIED to his MUSIC.....AND RELIGION..... I read he filmed CARMEN and I also remember some guest on Howard Stern's E show state that Carmen was getting it on with some guy at the Mansion. Rodmen said Carmen is WILD IN BED. Carmen in my opinion is WILD PERIOD. She has been in alot of comedies and some commercials. She went to a Performing Arts School. Carmen has done Great for Herself. I think she's very ENTERPRISING.
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Reply #11 posted 04/08/09 12:12am

SoulAlive

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I just listened to the D&P tour intro tonight...
On Carmen
This is our future. She is the scariest female on the planet. She is inevitable. She is addictive. To listen to her music on a loud system is to come a thousand times..."lol Wtf?


falloff yeah,I remember that.The promotion for Carmen was insane (lol).They were acting as if she was the next Madonna.It's sad that Prince felt the need to promote her so heavily,but didn't do the same for Rosie Gaines,who was trying to get her solo career/album off the ground.
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Reply #12 posted 04/08/09 1:47am

mimi2

lol I think only real Prince fans like us know. It's hardly ever mentioned these days, unless someone asks her a "how'd you get your start question" lol


Most people only know her for playboy, her brief stint on Baywatch and all those lame movies she's been in.
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Reply #13 posted 04/08/09 7:04am

SoulAlive

Brofie said:

She is done now but everything she got came from her good forune of being chosen and invented by Prince. She was just another stank midwest white chick who thought she could sex her way into Hollywood before he blessed her.


I'm not a huge fan of hers,but why do you have to be negative? no no no! I think she is smart.She proved that there is life after Prince lol
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Reply #14 posted 04/08/09 9:34am

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Carmen is REAL SMART! In a SAVEY WAY. She knows how to SELL and make money. She also has put up with alot in her life and SHOWBIZ. She fell in VEGAS and got right back-Up and you know she took a bad fall. Carmen is TOUGH and it's because her parents were KARATE INSTRUCTORS and she knows how to FIGHT. She always won COMPETITIONS in SCHOOL and AWARDS they said.
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Reply #15 posted 04/08/09 7:15pm

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SoulAlive said:

Brofie said:

She is done now but everything she got came from her good forune of being chosen and invented by Prince. She was just another stank midwest white chick who thought she could sex her way into Hollywood before he blessed her.


I'm not a huge fan of hers,but why do you have to be negative? no no no! I think she is smart.She proved that there is life after Prince lol


no dude you have this all wrong. it's only bad to be negative when it's about prince (or in this case if it's about dez dickerson biggrin).

everybody complains about 'prince haters' but man there's a lot of racist shit going down at the org.

funny (or not-so-funny) story: my avatar (this avatar) was rejected three times and when i finally got an explanation i was told it was because it was racist.

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Reply #16 posted 04/08/09 7:15pm

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Reply #17 posted 04/08/09 8:11pm

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Brofie said:

moussemaker said:

He promoted her in 1992-93, and she only started Baywatch four years later.


I just listened to the D&P tour intro tonight...
On Carmen
This is our future. She is the scariest female on the planet. She is inevitable. She is addictive. To listen to her music on a loud system is to come a thousand times..."lol Wtf?

So what? She had a resume and a name because of Prince. You cant seperate the most substantial work she had done with the most famous aratist she was connected with just because that lightweight TV show was 4 years later. Get smart. Her career is where it is now because her 15 minute sof fame is over. In fact, if she wasnt acting a fool with Dennis Rodman, she would have been forgotten earlier than she was. Smell the coffee


It IS funny because back in 1992 we were xpecting something HUGE with that Carmen Electra album which was promoted like the next big thing. Then the album came up and despite having good moments it was all in all disappointing 4 many of us & it was both a critical and commercial failure. So when u look back at that slogan "This is our future. She is the scariest female on the planet. She is inevitable. She is addictive. To listen to her music on a loud system is to come a thousand times..." it's became kind of a Prince fans' provate joke lol
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Reply #18 posted 04/08/09 8:18pm

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madcapxtc said:

Brofie said:


So what? She had a resume and a name because of Prince. You cant seperate the most substantial work she had done with the most famous aratist she was connected with just because that lightweight TV show was 4 years later. Get smart. Her career is where it is now because her 15 minute sof fame is over. In fact, if she wasnt acting a fool with Dennis Rodman, she would have been forgotten earlier than she was. Smell the coffee


It IS funny because back in 1992 we were xpecting something HUGE with that Carmen Electra album which was promoted like the next big thing. Then the album came up and despite having good moments it was all in all disappointing 4 many of us & it was both a critical and commercial failure. So when u look back at that slogan "This is our future. She is the scariest female on the planet. She is inevitable. She is addictive. To listen to her music on a loud system is to come a thousand times..." it's became kind of a Prince fans' provate joke lol


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there was a little video advertisement clip on the 'sexy mf' vhs featuring carmen that had the blurb mentioned above. 'scariest female on the planet...', 'inevitable...' with carmen dancing around a stripper pole.
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Reply #19 posted 04/08/09 8:28pm

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stanleylieber said:

everyone hug now please

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Reply #20 posted 04/08/09 11:39pm

bellanoche

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falloff yeah,I remember that.The promotion for Carmen was insane (lol).They were acting as if she was the next Madonna.It's sad that Prince felt the need to promote her so heavily,but didn't do the same for Rosie Gaines,who was trying to get her solo career/album off the ground.


It is crazy how Prince tries to put this spin out there like these talentless hacks are so amazing. I wonder if he is laughing inside when he creates this buzz and hype about these projects.

However, it was very sad to see him spend so much time promoting her when he had an incredible talent in Rosie Gaines right there waiting for her opportunity. At that time, she still had a chance to make a wave in the ocean because of her association with Prince and the exposure she was getting. There was still a little window during that time where a non-barbie type with talent like Rosie could make a little way for herself in the R&B world, but once the Prince tie was severed that was it. Rosie still remained active in music, but never on that level.

What is most tragic about it is that she was a real musician who wasn't trying to parlay her time with P into acting, self-exploitation or whatever other vehicle would drive her to fame. All that time and money was wasted on a non-musician who more than likely had no plans of making a career in music.

Now that I think about it, it doesn't just make me sad. It angers me. mad
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Reply #21 posted 04/09/09 5:19am

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Carmen's pretty amazing, if you ask me. She owes whatever she has to herself and not at all to Prince. All he did was give her a rather awful album. She could have easily been relegated to the ninth circle of vault hell, where most of his side project artists go, but she managed to get out and make herself famous. Is she talented? I guess that's kind of beside the point.
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Reply #22 posted 04/09/09 7:21am

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Brofie said:

jpd said:

why bring her colour into it? what relevance is her being white?


The same relevance that she was stank has. Because the majority of stanks in Hollywood are white and the majority that get anywhere that way are white - I know from first hand experience. Or just turn on your TV or radio.


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Reply #23 posted 04/09/09 10:42am

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Carmen herself certainly credits him. She said this just last year:

Q: You had the opportunity to start working with Prince, who at the time was hitting his creative prime. What was it like being immersed in that environment?

CE: Well, I was 18 turning 19 and I felt like I was living in a dream. You know? I don’t know, I couldn’t believe how much my life had changed within a week. I mean, I still can’t. I still look back and think, wow, thank God for this person, this powerful person that’s so admired and listened to, who believed in me and gave me that much self-confidence to try and do this on my own.

Q: Do you ever draw inspiration from those experiences, to help with projects you’re working on today?

CE: Yeah, I feel really lucky and blessed to have had that situation. It was great because I got to dance. I mean, he’s a genius, a musical genius, so to have someone make music that you can dance to and feel good is really cool and creative and fun and exciting and new. It was a completely different time in my life. I mean, he gave me my name and, I don’t know. I guess, in a way, I can look back at that time and if I ever feel insecure or doubt myself, I can say, Prince believed in me. Why am I not believing in me? You know? And that’s kind of an interesting way of looking at things and it does help me. And definitely, at times when I feel uncertain, it gives me a little boost.

Q: Has he connected with you at other points in your career?

CE: We were just at Coachella and I was hosting a T-Mobile party and he headlined, so it was actually going on at the same time and I didn’t get a chance to see him.


Q: Do you still talk to Prince?

CE:I haven’t talked to him in years! But I think he’s amazing and I adore him, and I’m really grateful to have that experience.
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Reply #24 posted 04/09/09 12:34pm

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Efan said:

Carmen's pretty amazing, if you ask me. She owes whatever she has to herself and not at all to Prince. All he did was give her a rather awful album. She could have easily been relegated to the ninth circle of vault hell, where most of his side project artists go, but she managed to get out and make herself famous. Is she talented? I guess that's kind of beside the point.


I do not agree with this. Girls like Carmen are basically a dime a dozen, and if not a dime at least a nickel. Either way, her connection with Prince was the launching pad for her career. The exposure she received from that association along with the portfolio/resume that she got from the "rather awful album" and the boatload of promotion that accompanied it opened doors for her and put her in contact with people in places that she would not have been able to do on her own at 18/19 as a "go-go dancer." She owes a lot to Prince. You do not know who she met as a result of her time with him.

Does Carmen have more drive and tenacity than some of the others who fell by the wayside, maybe so. I see her like Vanity in that sense. They both parlayed their time with Prince into successful "Hollywood" careers despite their limited talents. However, the fact remains that their time with Prince put them into a better position to parlay than most.
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Reply #25 posted 04/09/09 1:00pm

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bellanoche said:

Efan said:

Carmen's pretty amazing, if you ask me. She owes whatever she has to herself and not at all to Prince. All he did was give her a rather awful album. She could have easily been relegated to the ninth circle of vault hell, where most of his side project artists go, but she managed to get out and make herself famous. Is she talented? I guess that's kind of beside the point.


I do not agree with this. Girls like Carmen are basically a dime a dozen, and if not a dime at least a nickel. Either way, her connection with Prince was the launching pad for her career. The exposure she received from that association along with the portfolio/resume that she got from the "rather awful album" and the boatload of promotion that accompanied it opened doors for her and put her in contact with people in places that she would not have been able to do on her own at 18/19 as a "go-go dancer." She owes a lot to Prince. You do not know who she met as a result of her time with him.

Does Carmen have more drive and tenacity than some of the others who fell by the wayside, maybe so. I see her like Vanity in that sense. They both parlayed their time with Prince into successful "Hollywood" careers despite their limited talents. However, the fact remains that their time with Prince put them into a better position to parlay than most.


I think the connections she made through B-Real probably helped her just as much if not more so than Prince's. Look, I know Prince launched her, but what I'm saying is that having Prince launch your career doesn't mean anything, and I'm not trying to be overly critical of Prince. I'm just saying he's not a starmaker. She had a modicum of fame. The only difference between her and TC Ellis in 1993 was that she was a hot chick and she could pose for Playboy. Prince got her a very little, teeny-tiny snippet of the spotlight. The fact that she managed to get firmly in the spotlight--and remain there for more than 15 years--is all because of her work, her need for attention, and the fact that she will appear in ANYTHING. Any commercial, any place there's a camera at all. ANYWHERE. But be that as it may, it really doesn't have anything to do with Prince.
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Reply #26 posted 04/09/09 1:20pm

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bellanoche said:

Girls like Carmen are basically a dime a dozen, and if not a dime at least a nickel.


Speaking of nickels, check out Carmen at Zac Efron's pool party. Zac's uncle has a great line: "If I had a nickel for every time you gave me a boner, I would have $400. Oops. And five cents." falloff

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Reply #27 posted 04/09/09 2:32pm

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Carmen is a great beauty. She's got this thing for really, umm, untraditional men, but I have to say this much...she has a hell of a work ethic.

Look at all the folks that started the way she did. Their 15 minutes of fame disappear at minute 12. Carmen is still going out there and working because she realizes, probably more than anyone, that fame for a woman lasts one minute after you are forty.

Especially if you have average ability. Could Paula Abdul, who is a much better dancer have kept her career going without American Idol? She would probably be a dance teacher or choreographer to a younger artist. J. Lo, Janet, and pretty soon Britney will soon find out that if you don't have the pipes, looks and dancing will only go so far.
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Reply #28 posted 04/09/09 5:43pm

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Her mama deserves all the credit for making Carmen
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Reply #29 posted 04/14/09 9:16am

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I think people should stop thinking that Prince should be credited for her career.Carmen Electra's album was awful and she could not sing or rap.Carmen is a great dancer though. Once again Prince does not have nay real business savy. I will give Carmen props because out of all those that came from under Prince she is the only one that manage to keep her name out there and get work and it was not because of Prince. So i say Carmen Electra go on with your badself.
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