stanleylieber said:

Virgo said:

Oh yeah,I forgot about that! That entire scene was an embarrassment for Jill.Why didn't he give her a kickass song to perform in the movie?? A song with her OWN VOCALS on it?? It seems like he always put Jill on the backburner,treating her like an insignificant stepchild.

Someone on this thread mentioned that Jill might have done better if she had been a part of the Rick James/Teena Marie/Stone City Band camp and I agree.She would have signed with Motown and released several albums and hit singles.Like Teena Marie,she could have built a lasting career.Let's face it,most of Prince's female proteges didn't have long-lasting careers.He tried to mold them into his image but when the records didn't sell,he lost interest altogether.Prince is a musical genuis,but he's never been very good at nurturing the talent of others.Jill follows a long line of female proteges who only got to do one album before disappearing.

Gav said:

That's correct.Because of a clause in her Paisley Park Records contract,she wasn't allowed to record new music on any other label for a 7-year period.

SoulAlive said:

Just a minor correction about the scene in the film. It's Ingrid Chavez lipsynching to Elisa's vocal track rather than Jill herself. Jill's only "major scene" is the pantie removal one isn't it?

KeithyT said:

Actually,Jill starts off "lipsyncing" the vocals (by Elisa) but then Ingrid Chavez "takes over" the song,and she starts lipsyncing Elisa's vocals It's a ridiculous scene.Jill should have kicked Prince's ass for that,lol.

SoulAlive said:

That reminds me - I must look on the credits for "You Do Me" to see if it says "by permission of PP"

SoulAlive said:

She does? Oh blummin ell what a mess!

Interview from 1999

Neil B: While filming Graffiti Bridge, didn't you feel akward miming to the vocals on Love Machine, when the album credits them to Elisa?
Given that you were playing the part of Prince's girlfriend,in the movie, surely it would've made more sense to have featured a song or two on your own?

Jill :"I did record that song too. However for whatever reasons, either politically or emotionally, Prince made the decision to use Elisa Fiorello's voice".

Prodigalfan said:

Stanleylieber said:

His own "slaveperiod" started not too long after he had declined to release at least two artist signed to him/PP. Both Jill and Rosie Gaines have said that he wouldn't release them from contracts they wanted out off, in the early nineties.
So I guess what goes around really do come around

Quote from Rosie Gaines:
"I was asking 'Why didn't you put out my solo album? Why am I seeing all these other girls, who aren't talented at all releasing material?' In the end it got so that I started thinking ; I was here first and just cause I didn't sleep with you!' So I figured let me go. He didn't take to it well and wouldn't release me of my contract, so we went through a period of being very angry with one another"
[Edited 3/30/09 8:04am]

SoulAlive said:

Did not Warner Brothers have something to say about that contract as well?

Warner was the "Parent Company".

I'm pretty sure that she was not just being held-down by Prince.

She could've sued Prince, and publically accuse him of holding her back when he was angry at "WB".

Nothing from Jill then..


YHWH is Elohim and Yahoshua is King

Linn4days said:

we're all making assumptions.

I like Jill Jones. She a cool person. That being said, she has make comments about Prince in the past and most of them are negative. She is very bitter about the past.

Prince is very relevant. Period.

SoulAlive said:

Yeah I was the one who mentioned that Jill would have did better under Rick James/Teena Marie guidance. But by mid 80s Rick was facing legal troubles and Teena Marie's singing career was starting to wane off while Prince started to rise so I guess Jill who appeared on the 1999 videos want to ride on the Prince's bandwagon as much as she can. Still she would been established artist at her own right and would have more opportinuties came to ehr way if she was under Rick James and Teena Marie. She had the look and she can sing very soulful she was with the wrong mentor that what the problem the same mentor who had an attention span of a five year old and admittted he get bored very easily.

I am attempting to join Jill's facebook and email her about this but after someone blast her business on here I am not sure she will respond to that question.

Purplestar88 said:

I would be bitter too if my hands were tied for seven years due to some contract and unable to work for another label who might had opportinities waiting for you. She had to do modeling just to pay the bills instead but I am sure at the time she would rather continued on her musicial journey. The same happened to one of my fav rappers Lady of Rage my she was stuck on some Death Row contract for seven years too and she had to turn work down and she supposed to appear with Lil Kim and Angie Martinez in Ladies Night song but Suge Knight refused to release her and she couldn't work for another label. That is why it is very important for novice artists to make sure they seek legal advice before they sign.

But still I wondered did Jill even had legal representation when she signed the contract because the written of contracts can be complicated as hell. She might understood it but she thought that Prince would release her out of loyality if she didn't feel satisifed as his former artist and he could have but he paid her back due to their fallout or whatever. Prince is pain in the ass though for what he did to her but on the other hand she wasnt force to sign the contract.

p4life said:

Chasing said:

Maybe this is who Prince wrote "Feel Good...Better...Wonderful" for?

p4life said:

Yes Im curious as 2 where she s coming from with those kinds of statements,If indeed she made them. However I don t really give a fuck what she thinks. If you can t say something nice about P shut the fuck up!!!! .....anywho it s not that serious

MissDeeDeeDee said:

Does that apply to just Prince or Jill too ?

Gav said:

or even the people misdeedeedee is talking to
[Edited 3/31/09 14:11pm]

Considering Jill's close relationship to both Rick and Prince at the height of their careers, a book would be a fab idea, no? She could vent her little heart out.

RodeoSchro said:

HAHA No he ain't. He's talked trash too. He doesn't have a free pass for dissing folks, and expect others to not talk trash about him. He's not been the greatest boss in the past. He and Boni Boyer used to yell at each other and fight on the way to the stage on the Lovesexy show. They'd walk through the audience in the dark to the stage, and they'd be yelling "Fuck you!" "no, fuck YOU man!" Prince all but ignored Wendy and Lisa after they left camp, yet they never had a bad word about him, and even talked great about him on "Song About". Morris Hayes left the band partly because of the JW thing the first time around, although no bad blood remained between him and Prince. Prince is notorious for name checkin' people in songs too. What comes around goes around.

ernestsewell said:

Absolutely - Jughead was hardly class ?

Chasing said:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaah that statement made me come out of my lurk state


P+ JJ =

ernestsewell said:

?????

I've never heard of Prince "name-checking" anyone in songs or print.

In the past, fans have given insight and assumptions on who he may have been talking about in the lyrics..

Name-Checking = Lawsuit 101.

He has mentioned Missy, but that was hardly a shot.. I thought that line was hilarious though "I'm gonna put her on a diet that Misst went on.."

None of these songs mention anyone by name..

YHWH is Elohin and Yahoshua is King

Linn4days said:

One word - Jughead (which did result in a lawsuit btw)

If he's "class" and "above" things like this - why the Ozzy Ozborne impersonations on the ONA tour ?

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[Edited 4/3/09 7:36am]

Dred said:

Anxiety said:

Well said tricky99!

Here is my opinion, she is an ungrateful, talentless, bitch like tricky99 said. Prince did a lot for her, gave her roles in his movies, wrote songs for her and she still feels the need to diss him..... very sad!
[Edited 4/10/09 15:27pm]

pplrain said:

Talentless? Homegirl could sing laps around 80% of his other female proteges.

you're calling her out of her name because of what someone else said she said. You don't really know what's gone on between them, so it's not cool to call her ungrateful and a bitch. That was real disrespectful
[Edited 4/10/09 18:41pm]

bboy87 said:

No.

If she was talented she would have made it. Secondly no one would know her if it was not for Prince giving her movie roles and songs. She should be grateful.
[Edited 4/10/09 19:55pm]