independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Associated artists & people > The .org's official Bria Valente ELIXER album discussion thread
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 6 of 9 <123456789>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #150 posted 04/01/09 10:59am

L4OATheOrigina
l

avatar

CerpinTaxt said:

Diggin it. BUT the question is....Tamar or Bria version of Kept Woman? I have to go with tamar.



yeah i'm in agreement on that one ..and some of the lyrics have been changed from tamar's 2 bria's

overall i like this album


makes me think of when shelby's album drops will redhead stepchild b on there?
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #151 posted 04/01/09 2:12pm

Imago

Vanilla Ice's "Cool as Ice" was a better movie than Elixir is an album.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #152 posted 04/01/09 3:52pm

Gohi

Yeah Elixir sucks. Elixer is pretty cool though. :p
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #153 posted 04/01/09 4:36pm

worhol

I listened to this album again after seeing her interview. Awesome! It is hands down the best proedtoge release to date and Bria's voice has real depth and meaning behind it!! I think this album shows that they truly love eachother and he is definately the one she is singing about in the song Everytime. Can a love like that exist in real life, GOD i hope so!!! What a beautiful album.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #154 posted 04/01/09 6:10pm

PurpleCharm

The Good:

The arrangement, instrumentation and production is top notch.

My favorite songs are Here I Come and 2Night.

The Bad:

Bria's vocals ruin what could have been a great album. Her voice is as generic as they come. Replace Bria with Janet or Ciara or Cassie or Ashanti and you would have the same results.My God, the woman oohs and coos throughout the entire album. The seductive singing on every song is overkill, but I guess she did what she had to do to mask her weak vocals.

The Sade comparison is just ridiculous. Sade has one of the most distinctive voices in modern music and to mention her name in the same sentence as Bria has my head spinning. And since when has Sade sung about what her man does to her sexually. confused

An orger once said that instead of flowers, Prince gives his girlfriends record deals.

To end this post on a positive note, Prince hit it out of the park with the music.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #155 posted 04/01/09 6:11pm

PurpleCharm

Imago said:

Vanilla Ice's "Cool as Ice" was a better movie than Elixir is an album.


falloff
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #156 posted 04/01/09 6:21pm

emesem

PurpleCharm said:


Bria's vocals ruin what could have been a great album. Her voice is as generic as they come.


So right. I just started listening to this and the tunes are nice but her voice is a disaster for this kind of album. You need a tru chanteuse for these songs...someone with some personality and character.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #157 posted 04/01/09 7:35pm

NuPwrSoul

emesem said:

PurpleCharm said:


Bria's vocals ruin what could have been a great album. Her voice is as generic as they come.


So right. I just started listening to this and the tunes are nice but her voice is a disaster for this kind of album. You need a tru chanteuse for these songs...someone with some personality and character.


I feel the same way... Prince might as well had Ingrid Chavez reading her weird ass poetry over these tracks.
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #158 posted 04/01/09 8:11pm

Astasheiks

avatar

I'm digging her CD!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #159 posted 04/01/09 8:47pm

wildgoldenhone
y

Max said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

FIRST.

On the 3 Bria songs we've heard so far, I love the instrumentation.





Instrumentation is amazing.

smile
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #160 posted 04/01/09 8:49pm

pplrain

avatar

JamesS said:

Ok... jumped straight to the track "Elixer" as I knew it was a duet with Prince.

First chorus... "Elixer, elixer, elixer"... hmmm, that sounded a bit rude??? No stop being a perv James, Prince is past that kind of stuff now...

Second chorus "Elixer, elixer, elixer".

Stop it.

Third chorus "Elixer, elixer, elixer. YES HE DOES".

YES HE DOES!!!

Prince the perv is back!!!

As for the 4th chorus, I laughed. smile

Great stuff.

Nice album title. lol
[Edited 3/27/09 16:49pm]



lol Amen!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #161 posted 04/01/09 8:52pm

WaterInYourBat
h

avatar

NuPwrSoul said:

emesem said:



So right. I just started listening to this and the tunes are nice but her voice is a disaster for this kind of album. You need a tru chanteuse for these songs...someone with some personality and character.


I feel the same way... Prince might as well had Ingrid Chavez reading her weird ass poetry over these tracks.



I actually like Ingrid's poetic-rap style, which was very cool and unique at the time.
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #162 posted 04/01/09 8:55pm

wildgoldenhone
y

utopia7 said:

dartluv5 said:



I have to agree with this cool Maybe I'm just a sucker for violin string arrangements, but almost every song with Clare Fisher's signature touch on it I enjoy. Everytime may be a bit too sweet for some, but it's syrupy goodness to me! The more I listen to it, the more I love it lol To each is own.





Im right with ya !!! Violin is the sweetest instrument it's the sound of wood crying once the ax hits its roots smile

I love the violin too.
It's beautiful.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #163 posted 04/01/09 10:26pm

hestilllovesme

NuPwrSoul said:

emesem said:



So right. I just started listening to this and the tunes are nice but her voice is a disaster for this kind of album. You need a tru chanteuse for these songs...someone with some personality and character.


I feel the same way... Prince might as well had Ingrid Chavez reading her weird ass poetry over these tracks.


nod nod nod
I'm kind of glad that others came here to say they think this album
is a disaster lol
the instrumentation is brilliant of course but Bria's voice
isn't and this voice could be replaced by so many others. confused
Dancing helps relieve the pain. Soothes your mind, makes you happy again!!!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #164 posted 04/01/09 10:28pm

hestilllovesme

PurpleCharm said:

The Good:

The arrangement, instrumentation and production is top notch.

My favorite songs are Here I Come and 2Night.

The Bad:

Bria's vocals ruin what could have been a great album. Her voice is as generic as they come. Replace Bria with Janet or Ciara or Cassie or Ashanti and you would have the same results.My God, the woman oohs and coos throughout the entire album. The seductive singing on every song is overkill, but I guess she did what she had to do to mask her weak vocals.

The Sade comparison is just ridiculous. Sade has one of the most distinctive voices in modern music and to mention her name in the same sentence as Bria has my head spinning. And since when has Sade sung about what her man does to her sexually. confused

An orger once said that instead of flowers, Prince gives his girlfriends record deals.

To end this post on a positive note, Prince hit it out of the park with the music.


Oh yes!
what I don't like about this whole Bria story is
this weird Sade comparison. biggrin
Dancing helps relieve the pain. Soothes your mind, makes you happy again!!!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #165 posted 04/01/09 10:31pm

pplrain

avatar

Bria keep on the positive, you did a good job for your first album... don't listen to the haterz here.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #166 posted 04/02/09 3:17am

hestilllovesme

pplrain said:

Bria keep on the positive, you did a good job for your first album... don't listen to the haterz here.



Didn't you had an upper expectation
when you first saw a picture of her?
She is a tall good looking woman
and I just expected a voice that is
sexy and strong instead of a voice
that is at some parts of her songs
sometimes actually bleak. wink

And I just don't get this big hype
about her.She is pretty but don't
have a great voice.But some of you
here comparing her to a couple of
"real" vocalists.

Don't wanna hate. I'm sorry. lol
Dancing helps relieve the pain. Soothes your mind, makes you happy again!!!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #167 posted 04/02/09 12:19pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

WaterInYourBath said:

NuPwrSoul said:



I feel the same way... Prince might as well had Ingrid Chavez reading her weird ass poetry over these tracks.



I actually like Ingrid's poetic-rap style, which was very cool and unique at the time.




Hippy Blood was my favorite song on her CD.
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #168 posted 04/02/09 6:01pm

Vendetta1

pplrain said:

Bria keep on the positive, you did a good job for your first album... don't listen to the haterz here.
Praying ot the baby jesus that the word "haterz" gets retired. pray
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #169 posted 04/02/09 7:29pm

Alej

avatar

I actually ENJOY this album, be it good or bad, it's enjoyable smile

Everytime is just dreamy love mushy
The orger formerly known as theodore
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #170 posted 04/02/09 11:26pm

yeahsheis

It's cute. But it's not getting me, I doubt I'd ever crave to listen to it. I like Home. But I'm not feeling like I'm in her shoes with the songs. If that makes any sense. Feels more like it would appeal to people who would like her singing to them.
mmmm...chocolates
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #171 posted 04/03/09 12:30am

69starchild

avatar

crysball i like 2NITE & ANOTHER BOY. (trks 6&7)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #172 posted 04/03/09 3:04pm

salaciousV

I'm reposting since I made the time to actually review the music. biggrin

The Album is not terrible. Its actually ok. The songs are well constructed and it doesnt suck. It does have some great melodys becaause I was singing some later, but that doesnt mean shit cus Im always singing Womanizer and we know that song is a piece of shit.

Now because you were comparing this to Goapele and Amel I listened to them right after.

The feeling is kind of like this: if someone gives you frozen yougurt sweetened with asparateme you like, dammmmn that shit is good.

An hour later someone gives you an italian made gelato and your like fuck the youghurt!!

And thats exactly what I felt after I listened to these other artists afterwards.

Now Bria herself has a really thin voice. That is a fact. I dont think anyone would deny this if you really listen. It doesnt have depth. And that isnt a bad thing, there are plenty of successful singers that dont have that (Christina Millian, Britney, Cassie, etc)

But the music WITH the singer doesnt make for the same categories as these ladies. Especially since she mostly coos thru the music. I wouldnt call it singing to be real. Its like that talk singing.

That being said, I think ALL THIS LOVE starstarstar:* out of 5 is great. Prince really did work with her voice and maximized it to sound richer and fuller with lush backings, vocal manipulation box or whatever that is, and funky little track. Its good, I really do like this song and will be the one that rips to the ipod for the cool down mode.

HERE EYE COME (no stars): I think the lyrics and her singing are contrived. Dont like it.

HOME star: The chorus is catchy but the lyrics again, Prince you are getting cheezy on me. I think the lyrics sound thin because she doesnt give any feeling emotion behind it. And the way she "sings" DO for DOOR is aggravating. Again that fake contrived sexy feeling.

SOMETHING U ALREADY KNOW star1/2
: I love the melody and instrumentation and chorus in this but the lyrics are trying to be sexy but I feel like they sound forced. Like Prince was trying to chanel his own inner girl but making Bria sing "sho nuff kicking it" and PRINCE singing this would make this a whole different song. A BETTER SONG. This is a song about a lover telling her lover some crazy intimate things and her voice doesnt deliver. Prince should have kept this one for himself.

EVERYTIME (negative one star) If you played the music without lyrics or vocals its nice leisurely muzak you would hear at a beach resort. It sounds like Burt Baccharach or some old guy shit. Dont like it.

2NITE starstar1/2 Its the best with her cooing voice, better than All This Love. But I dont particularly like the song that much. Sounds like JLO LITE.

ANOTHER BOY
KEPT WOMAN

I skipped over these two after the first few seconds. Another Boy sounds like a dumb early 90s pop song Stacy Q would sing (dont ask how I know about her my ghetto cousin is to blame) OMG I JUST REALIZED SHE SOUNDS LIKE STACY Q!! falloff

Kept Woman, I didnt like Tamar's version and I definitely dont like Brias version.

IMMERSION. pretty trippy weird music but it sounds like Prince and her voice is over manipulated.

ELIXER starstarstarstar:*: Best song. Prince's voice in falsetto and hers barely audible is a perfect match. My personal opinion you need an obscure whisper girl voice singing with Prince so it doesnt obstruct or Rosie Gaines voice with that sound that captures and complements his .

2 out of 5 stars. biggrin

Your turn!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #173 posted 04/03/09 4:42pm

lezama

avatar

hestilllovesme said:

But some of you
here comparing her to a couple of
"real" vocalists.


You don't have to have a voice like Jennifer Hudson to sound good. She sings better than plenty of multi-plantinum selling artists (Madonna, Janet, Kylie, Britney). Thats all the reason Prince would need to make an album with her.
Change it one more time..
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #174 posted 04/03/09 4:45pm

lezama

avatar

salaciousV said:


EVERYTIME (negative one star) It sounds like Burt Baccharach or some old guy shit. Dont like it.


I guess if you've never listened to bossa music before that would make sense... wink
Change it one more time..
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #175 posted 04/03/09 4:50pm

wildgoldenhone
y

Anxiety said:

Serena said:



You make some excellent points and I'm going to give it a few more listens, paying more attention to the music rather than her.


You'll be glad you did. I like the style of this album and I'd LOVE to hear him do an album like this without it having to be a protege album.

cool
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #176 posted 04/03/09 5:58pm

salaciousV

Yeah overall this is the one of the better proteges album.

But if it wasnt attached to Prince (musically and physically as in 3rd cd) I would never buy it and it probably wouldnt sell on its on merit.

And before we throw the HATER word around, its just simple truth. Shes older, the songs and music SOUND older and she would have a following but it would be small.

If this wasnt Prince's music maybe 10 out 100 orgers would buy it. Maybe.

neutral


All the critics panned it and the fans I would say about 40 percent like it. But like I said if not attached to P, how successful would it be?

In the end it doesnt matter. Shes can claim a #1 or #2 album this week, She can claim an exclusive deal with Target and she got paid (assuming but knowing Prince spit) and has purple sperm all up in her. So go Bria bounce your plastic titties you made it!!!!
[Edited 4/3/09 18:01pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #177 posted 04/03/09 7:17pm

itsshananaok

Home is my jam! The chorus sounds like waves of water to me. I love the words and they should consider remixing this for the clubs.

I think Bria's voice sounds great in all the songs. Certain people are way too hard on her but I think she did a great job. Go girl, you and Princey made a sexy lil album! From a former quaker, 4 out of 5 stars. You done good and I cant wait to see what you all do next. clapping
Cuzzin'... when Spooky say dead, u better say died.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #178 posted 04/03/09 8:59pm

Kim69

Okay...soo I have listened to SOME.. of the Bria stuff and Tamar is much better an Artist than Bria.....she should have been on this Album...
'Love will be your Soldier' - Nikka Costa

http://ddirtyshow.podomatic.com/
hiphopwithaqueerview

if you in the ATL memorial day weekend and you are a Alt-Queer...cum here:
www.mondohomo.com
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #179 posted 04/03/09 9:01pm

Kim69

Let me be clear...TAMAR should have been on this album..


Please folks tell me why not....please...cause Tamar is so much more talented!!!
'Love will be your Soldier' - Nikka Costa

http://ddirtyshow.podomatic.com/
hiphopwithaqueerview

if you in the ATL memorial day weekend and you are a Alt-Queer...cum here:
www.mondohomo.com
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 6 of 9 <123456789>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Associated artists & people > The .org's official Bria Valente ELIXER album discussion thread