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Reply #30 posted 09/25/08 9:31am

LinnLM1

This song would have been a top 10 hit in 1984. No question about it.
the music knows what your motives are when you are making it

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Reply #31 posted 09/25/08 9:36am

JEDINATION

LinnLM1 said:

This song would have been a top 10 hit in 1984. No question about it.


yes, considering that "Jungle Love" and "Sex Shooter" were both Top 10 Hits, it's a good bet "Modernaire" would have been too
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Reply #32 posted 09/25/08 9:53am

ltd022002

Had This one 4 a while now. One of the best songs on the movie! everybody I knew back then looked 4 this cut but couldn't find it cause it didn't release back then. A shame 2, cause it was way better than Dance Electric! That my opinion!
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Reply #33 posted 09/25/08 1:30pm

ThomasBjj

I have ALWAYS wanted this song!! I think it's great. I also think it would have been a hit in '84.

Glad to finally have it. It always eluded me even in boot form... until now
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Reply #34 posted 09/25/08 9:59pm

dolorespark

ThomasBjj said:

I have ALWAYS wanted this song!! I think it's great. I also think it would have been a hit in '84.

Glad to finally have it. It always eluded me even in boot form... until now

Hopefully Prince sneaks into the set of one of his shows. Can you feel it, him singin as a more rockin version than the movie version. Could Crystal Ball Pt. 2 be around the corner. Come on Prince give Dez a musiciology lesson how funky...all do respect. I loved your cut also Dez. We miss you Dez, you were there when everything was still raw and rude. Always remembered and always thankful for the music you helped be a part of DEZ.
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Reply #35 posted 09/26/08 3:20am

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SoulAlive said:


Wow, I wish I wouldn't of read the lyrics. All these years I thought that instead of the line that comes in at 1:48 "... breathe of cold despair..", that he sings ".. sperms got cold as spam". Oh well.
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Reply #36 posted 09/26/08 3:28am

SoulAlive

bigben07 said:

SoulAlive said:


Wow, I wish I wouldn't of read the lyrics. All these years I thought that instead of the line that comes in at 1:48 "... breathe of cold despair..", that he sings ".. sperms got cold as spam". Oh well.


evillol the lyrics are the weakest thing about the song.The groove is hot!
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Reply #37 posted 09/26/08 6:17am

steve4key

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About bloody time
Reality is an illusion
Caused by a lack of ALCOHOL
Fact
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Reply #38 posted 09/26/08 9:49am

Anxiety

dolorespark said:

ThomasBjj said:

I have ALWAYS wanted this song!! I think it's great. I also think it would have been a hit in '84.

Glad to finally have it. It always eluded me even in boot form... until now

Hopefully Prince sneaks into the set of one of his shows. Can you feel it, him singin as a more rockin version than the movie version. Could Crystal Ball Pt. 2 be around the corner. Come on Prince give Dez a musiciology lesson how funky...all do respect. I loved your cut also Dez. We miss you Dez, you were there when everything was still raw and rude. Always remembered and always thankful for the music you helped be a part of DEZ.


i got to see dez perform it over the summer with a bunch of other prince veterans - the crowd went nuts!
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Reply #39 posted 09/26/08 4:17pm

blackguitarist
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ElCapitan said:

SoulAlive said:



I agree.I can't believe that they didn't see the hit potential in this song....or was it Prince who cancelled the release?


It's fun to hear given it's history. However, as a single it's got "Prince reject" written all over it. This woulda tanked, even in 1984.

I don't agree with that at all.
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Reply #40 posted 09/26/08 7:42pm

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JEDINATION said:

LinnLM1 said:

This song would have been a top 10 hit in 1984. No question about it.


yes, considering that "Jungle Love" and "Sex Shooter" were both Top 10 Hits, it's a good bet "Modernaire" would have been too


If André Cymone could have a top ten R&B hit with "The Dance Electric" a year later then I don't see why "Modernaire" couldn't have done just as well riding the coattails of the Purple Rain movie.

But "Sex Shooter" was not a top ten hit.
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Reply #41 posted 09/27/08 2:05pm

wasitgood4u

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bigben07 said:

SoulAlive said:


Wow, I wish I wouldn't of read the lyrics. All these years I thought that instead of the line that comes in at 1:48 "... breathe of cold despair..", that he sings ".. sperms got cold as spam". Oh well.


From the movie I thought for a long time that he wanted to be a Mountaineer!.. lol
"We've never been able to pull off a funk number"

"That's becuase we're soulless auttomatons"
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Reply #42 posted 09/27/08 2:11pm

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ANd it's actually way better than I remembered (and as a full song...)...
"We've never been able to pull off a funk number"

"That's becuase we're soulless auttomatons"
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Reply #43 posted 09/27/08 6:47pm

DMSR

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Mary Sweet Mutha GEZUS// where has this been...
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Reply #44 posted 09/28/08 12:40am

blackguitarist
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I take it that all of ya'll caught the backward female track on the song right?
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him."
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Reply #45 posted 09/28/08 12:54am

blackguitarist
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It has some cool ass lyrics too:

I want to be a paper junkie
I want to make long green
I'd never steal to sell my body
Unless I stole a limousine
I want to swim in the water
Want to breath Moderaire
Want to surface a new human being
Breath of cold despair

And I love this line:

pessimistic attitudes
Never will I wear

This track always makes me think of that scene in the film where this song is played. I always see Jerome's smiling ass standing at the bar and the crowd doing that dip dance they were doing in unison. And I can't leave out my man in Dez's band. U know that motherfucker in the red suit next to Dez who was having a straight seizure while he was playing. I laugh hard as hell everytime I see that cat. I'm always like "What in the fuck is homeboy supposed to be doing?!"
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him."
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Reply #46 posted 09/28/08 12:59am

blackguitarist
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blackguitaristz said:



And I love this line:

pessimistic attitudes
Never will I wear

You can hear Prince on backing vocals all over this phrase too.
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him."
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Reply #47 posted 09/28/08 12:18pm

mimi2

I really like this song. Too bad it wasn't released as a single back in the day...
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Reply #48 posted 09/28/08 1:47pm

nayroo2002

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This is actually a great find!!!
Thanks for sharing the link!
I know it was released on a limited edition compilation from Dez, himself, but it's nice to get a download.
To be honest, I've never heard the full version.
I'm gonna jam it right now...

PROST!


update

So, what is that chick saying in the background???
Interesting guitar effects. The keyboards are also without boundries at times. To me, this was a strange musical tangent for Prince. I could say he should try more boldness, but I guess it depends on his collaborator?

Nice to have the song, finally.
Thanks, again for the link!

PROSIT!
[Edited 9/28/08 13:59pm]
"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #49 posted 09/29/08 8:50pm

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nayroo2002 said:

So, what is that chick saying in the background???


Its backwords . shes saying something about the dawn
Realy hard to make out biggrin
Love Life,
Love God,
And Only Do Drugs You Need
smoker

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Reply #50 posted 10/01/08 11:12am

JEDINATION

sextonseven said:

JEDINATION said:



yes, considering that "Jungle Love" and "Sex Shooter" were both Top 10 Hits, it's a good bet "Modernaire" would have been too


If André Cymone could have a top ten R&B hit with "The Dance Electric" a year later then I don't see why "Modernaire" couldn't have done just as well riding the coattails of the Purple Rain movie.

But "Sex Shooter" was not a top ten hit.



ohhh? I thought it was Top Ten on the R&B chart? oh well, maybe not?

smile
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Reply #51 posted 10/01/08 12:44pm

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JEDINATION said:

sextonseven said:



If André Cymone could have a top ten R&B hit with "The Dance Electric" a year later then I don't see why "Modernaire" couldn't have done just as well riding the coattails of the Purple Rain movie.

But "Sex Shooter" was not a top ten hit.



ohhh? I thought it was Top Ten on the R&B chart? oh well, maybe not?

smile


Don't believe what it says in Wikipedia. Those chart numbers are wrong. I'll look in my Billboard books when I get home, but I know for sure that "Sex Shooter" didn't even break the top 20 on the R&B chart. #85 on the Hot 100 sounds correct, though.
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Reply #52 posted 10/01/08 1:04pm

DecaturStone

blackguitaristz said:

It has some cool ass lyrics too:

I want to be a paper junkie
I want to make long green
I'd never steal to sell my body
Unless I stole a limousine
I want to swim in the water
Want to breath Moderaire
Want to surface a new human being
Breath of cold despair

And I love this line:

pessimistic attitudes
Never will I wear

This track always makes me think of that scene in the film where this song is played. I always see Jerome's smiling ass standing at the bar and the crowd doing that dip dance they were doing in unison. And I can't leave out my man in Dez's band. U know that motherfucker in the red suit next to Dez who was having a straight seizure while he was playing. I laugh hard as hell everytime I see that cat. I'm always like "What in the fuck is homeboy supposed to be doing?!"

Even as a lil kid I used to laugh at that moment! That dude was in his own world. He was not moving to the music nor the words. I am thinking he had Let's GO Crazy in his head while he was filming that one.
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Reply #53 posted 10/01/08 11:40pm

blackguitarist
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DecaturStone said:

blackguitaristz said:

And I can't leave out my man in Dez's band. U know that motherfucker in the red suit next to Dez who was having a straight seizure while he was playing. I laugh hard as hell everytime I see that cat. I'm always like "What in the fuck is homeboy supposed to be doing?!"

Even as a lil kid I used to laugh at that moment! That dude was in his own world. He was not moving to the music nor the words. I am thinking he had Let's GO Crazy in his head while he was filming that one.

Exactly.
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him."
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Reply #54 posted 10/02/08 12:32am

SoulAlive

sextonseven said:

JEDINATION said:




ohhh? I thought it was Top Ten on the R&B chart? oh well, maybe not?

smile


Don't believe what it says in Wikipedia. Those chart numbers are wrong. I'll look in my Billboard books when I get home, but I know for sure that "Sex Shooter" didn't even break the top 20 on the R&B chart. #85 on the Hot 100 sounds correct, though.


That's correct."Sex Shooter" was far from being a hit record.It got alot of airplay on R&B stations but it never became a big hit and it didn't reach the Top 20 on the R&B charts.(By comparison,"Nasty Girl" went Top 10 R&B).Similarly,Vanity's solo single from this period,"Pretty Mess",was bombing as well.
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Reply #55 posted 10/03/08 10:01am

DecaturStone

SoulAlive said:

sextonseven said:



Don't believe what it says in Wikipedia. Those chart numbers are wrong. I'll look in my Billboard books when I get home, but I know for sure that "Sex Shooter" didn't even break the top 20 on the R&B chart. #85 on the Hot 100 sounds correct, though.


That's correct."Sex Shooter" was far from being a hit record.It got alot of airplay on R&B stations but it never became a big hit and it didn't reach the Top 20 on the R&B charts.(By comparison,"Nasty Girl" went Top 10 R&B).Similarly,Vanity's solo single from this period,"Pretty Mess",was bombing as well.

Sex Shooter is tight but not Nasty Girl tight. Nasty Girl can rock a club right now. Sex shooter not so much. I love both.
Back on topic.
I wish they would do a 'Revolution - where are they now' Dez needs some screen time for sure. I think after him Prince went to generic looking musicians. Dez was a favorite of the ladies
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Reply #56 posted 10/06/08 4:14am

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I downloaded the Dez Dickerson Original version from www.bleep.com. It's great to finally get this track, but I would probably have appreciated it even more 24 years ago. (Gosh, has it been that long already?) biggrin
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Reply #57 posted 10/06/08 4:38am

SoulAlive

DecaturStone said:

SoulAlive said:



That's correct."Sex Shooter" was far from being a hit record.It got alot of airplay on R&B stations but it never became a big hit and it didn't reach the Top 20 on the R&B charts.(By comparison,"Nasty Girl" went Top 10 R&B).Similarly,Vanity's solo single from this period,"Pretty Mess",was bombing as well.

Sex Shooter is tight but not Nasty Girl tight. Nasty Girl can rock a club right now. Sex shooter not so much. I love both.


Yeah,"Sex Shooter" is okay,but it's real gimmick-y with silly lyrics."Nasty Girl" is a stone-cold Minneapolis funk jam.To this day,I still hear it in clubs.It's an extremely funky dance track that still sounds nasty and aggressive.
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Reply #58 posted 10/16/08 2:58am

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SoulAlive said:

DecaturStone said:


Sex Shooter is tight but not Nasty Girl tight. Nasty Girl can rock a club right now. Sex shooter not so much. I love both.


Yeah,"Sex Shooter" is okay,but it's real gimmick-y with silly lyrics."Nasty Girl" is a stone-cold Minneapolis funk jam.To this day,I still hear it in clubs.It's an extremely funky dance track that still sounds nasty and aggressive.


INAYA DAY did a nice updated version of Nasty Girl with Remixes, very dance friendly, it came out in Australia only.

It's a shame Modernaire wasn't also put out on CD, I guess its a download world these days - nice vinyl though. If you want the vinyl and you are in the UK - email info@madhousemusic.co.uk and you will get FREE shipping (quote PRINCE Org 161008).http://www.madhousemusic....#139191%22
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Reply #59 posted 10/16/08 6:54am

jerkout

^ it's still cheaper at http://www.juno.co.uk
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