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Reply #30 posted 05/11/08 6:02pm

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madhouseman said:

blackguitaristz said:


Now that, I don't know.


I seem to remember that they had just seen Clinton perform a few nights earlier. I have posted the following before, but this might help with some questions about this session:
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From my notes, the song was recorded at Sunset Sound on Wednesday February 1, 1984 (drifting into the morning of Feb. 2), during a rare break from working on the Apollonia 6 album. The rumor was that they were returning from a George Clinton concert, but the session started at 7 PM, so that is doubtful. For 6 hours, Prince, Morris (I think you can also hear Jerome) and a few others goofed off in the studio. Prince was playing the bass (supposedly while wearing gloves) and keyboards, while Morris played the drums. They were supposedly singing about George Clinton, but since both of them respected his music, I don’t know why, other than they were still young and cocky. It is obvious that Prince and Morris were having fun, so some of the tension they had during the recording of ICE CREAM CASTLE was behind them. That album was finished (having been mixed on Jan. 18/19th).

The funny thing is they were using studio 2, so they had to take a microphone down thru the main recording area, down the hall to the bathroom where the toilet flush had to be cued for the end of the song.

A side note about this session: this was the last “new” recording of “The Time” for years. Technically, there was additional work done on the album in early May (a few tracks were edited down), but for the most part, it would be Morris’ last time recording with Prince until they got together for the unreleased Time album “Corporate World”.

This is from a very early draft of Prince: The Studio Sessions. I've left of a lot of details and have streamlined the story for this post.

This documentary seems like it'd make quite the read!
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Reply #31 posted 05/11/08 6:53pm

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GoActive said:

madhouseman said:



I seem to remember that they had just seen Clinton perform a few nights earlier. I have posted the following before, but this might help with some questions about this session:
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From my notes, the song was recorded at Sunset Sound on Wednesday February 1, 1984 (drifting into the morning of Feb. 2), during a rare break from working on the Apollonia 6 album. The rumor was that they were returning from a George Clinton concert, but the session started at 7 PM, so that is doubtful. For 6 hours, Prince, Morris (I think you can also hear Jerome) and a few others goofed off in the studio. Prince was playing the bass (supposedly while wearing gloves) and keyboards, while Morris played the drums. They were supposedly singing about George Clinton, but since both of them respected his music, I don’t know why, other than they were still young and cocky. It is obvious that Prince and Morris were having fun, so some of the tension they had during the recording of ICE CREAM CASTLE was behind them. That album was finished (having been mixed on Jan. 18/19th).

The funny thing is they were using studio 2, so they had to take a microphone down thru the main recording area, down the hall to the bathroom where the toilet flush had to be cued for the end of the song.

A side note about this session: this was the last “new” recording of “The Time” for years. Technically, there was additional work done on the album in early May (a few tracks were edited down), but for the most part, it would be Morris’ last time recording with Prince until they got together for the unreleased Time album “Corporate World”.

This is from a very early draft of Prince: The Studio Sessions. I've left of a lot of details and have streamlined the story for this post.

This documentary seems like it'd make quite the read!


Thank you.
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Reply #32 posted 05/11/08 8:25pm

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lol u a bad man blackguitarist.. nicely done! u almost got me fooled there..
thats probly why the song is called tricky right?

why the hell did p diss george clinton on the song?

Now that, I don't know.

eek hmmm Maybe, that explains why George didn't stay around Paisley Park Records to long. Perhaps, he sensed a subliminal vibe.
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Reply #33 posted 05/15/08 5:21pm

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madhouseman said:

blackguitaristz said:


Now that, I don't know.


I seem to remember that they had just seen Clinton perform a few nights earlier. I have posted the following before, but this might help with some questions about this session:
---
From my notes, the song was recorded at Sunset Sound on Wednesday February 1, 1984 (drifting into the morning of Feb. 2), during a rare break from working on the Apollonia 6 album. The rumor was that they were returning from a George Clinton concert, but the session started at 7 PM, so that is doubtful. For 6 hours, Prince, Morris (I think you can also hear Jerome) and a few others goofed off in the studio. Prince was playing the bass (supposedly while wearing gloves) and keyboards, while Morris played the drums. They were supposedly singing about George Clinton, but since both of them respected his music, I don’t know why, other than they were still young and cocky. It is obvious that Prince and Morris were having fun, so some of the tension they had during the recording of ICE CREAM CASTLE was behind them. That album was finished (having been mixed on Jan. 18/19th).

The funny thing is they were using studio 2, so they had to take a microphone down thru the main recording area, down the hall to the bathroom where the toilet flush had to be cued for the end of the song.

A side note about this session: this was the last “new” recording of “The Time” for years. Technically, there was additional work done on the album in early May (a few tracks were edited down), but for the most part, it would be Morris’ last time recording with Prince until they got together for the unreleased Time album “Corporate World”.

This is from a very early draft of Prince: The Studio Sessions. I've left of a lot of details and have streamlined the story for this post.


Wow you have a great memory, thanks for the details. George Clinton performed on The Scene in '84 the same time Tricky came out. He was coked out of his head and freaking on those teenage girls. lol
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Reply #34 posted 05/17/08 12:51am

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madhouseman said:

blackguitaristz said:


Now that, I don't know.


I seem to remember that they had just seen Clinton perform a few nights earlier. I have posted the following before, but this might help with some questions about this session:
---
From my notes, the song was recorded at Sunset Sound on Wednesday February 1, 1984 (drifting into the morning of Feb. 2), during a rare break from working on the Apollonia 6 album. The rumor was that they were returning from a George Clinton concert, but the session started at 7 PM, so that is doubtful. For 6 hours, Prince, Morris (I think you can also hear Jerome) and a few others goofed off in the studio. Prince was playing the bass (supposedly while wearing gloves) and keyboards, while Morris played the drums. They were supposedly singing about George Clinton, but since both of them respected his music, I don’t know why, other than they were still young and cocky. It is obvious that Prince and Morris were having fun, so some of the tension they had during the recording of ICE CREAM CASTLE was behind them. That album was finished (having been mixed on Jan. 18/19th).

The funny thing is they were using studio 2, so they had to take a microphone down thru the main recording area, down the hall to the bathroom where the toilet flush had to be cued for the end of the song.

A side note about this session: this was the last “new” recording of “The Time” for years. Technically, there was additional work done on the album in early May (a few tracks were edited down), but for the most part, it would be Morris’ last time recording with Prince until they got together for the unreleased Time album “Corporate World”.

This is from a very early draft of Prince: The Studio Sessions. I've left of a lot of details and have streamlined the story for this post.


Great information! thank you
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Reply #35 posted 05/17/08 10:48am

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I just found this thread and I was like "there's no way the vocals on Grace and Tricky were reversed!". smile


In terms of P playing bass and keyboards, and singing.... he wasn't doing all 3 at the same time was he??? I know you can technically play bass 1 handed but there are some spots it's seems like he must've overdubbed the synth stabs.... right? (Blackguitarist help me out here)

As for the woman on Grace, I thought it was Vanity but it kinda sounds too "reporter like". Is it Kim? I think her name is Kim Porter. The girl Morris puts in the trash can in Purple Rain??
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Reply #36 posted 05/17/08 6:40pm

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GaryMF said:

I just found this thread and I was like "there's no way the vocals on Grace and Tricky were reversed!". smile


In terms of P playing bass and keyboards, and singing.... he wasn't doing all 3 at the same time was he??? I know you can technically play bass 1 handed but there are some spots it's seems like he must've overdubbed the synth stabs.... right? (Blackguitarist help me out here)

As for the woman on Grace, I thought it was Vanity but it kinda sounds too "reporter like". Is it Kim? I think her name is Kim Porter. The girl Morris puts in the trash can in Purple Rain??

Nah, he overdubbed the keys.
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Reply #37 posted 05/18/08 12:37pm

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blackguitaristz said:

GaryMF said:

I just found this thread and I was like "there's no way the vocals on Grace and Tricky were reversed!". smile


In terms of P playing bass and keyboards, and singing.... he wasn't doing all 3 at the same time was he??? I know you can technically play bass 1 handed but there are some spots it's seems like he must've overdubbed the synth stabs.... right? (Blackguitarist help me out here)

As for the woman on Grace, I thought it was Vanity but it kinda sounds too "reporter like". Is it Kim? I think her name is Kim Porter. The girl Morris puts in the trash can in Purple Rain??

Nah, he overdubbed the keys.

OK good. Cuz that would be to SICK! Playing bass with gloves, singing, and doing synth all at once! smile

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