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Thread started 03/27/08 9:58am

southmpls

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So i was watching Andre Cymone at First Ave. in 83

Love Dog sounds alot like Private Joy

I'm wondering if thats a dig to P, like, "hey i helped you write Private Joy."

Man..... His Mr. Spock eyebrows were ummm, out there.
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Reply #1 posted 03/28/08 1:57pm

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southmpls said:

Love Dog sounds alot like Private Joy

I'm wondering if thats a dig to P, like, "hey i helped you write Private Joy."

Man..... His Mr. Spock eyebrows were ummm, out there.

Dang...I ain't seen this player!
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Reply #2 posted 03/28/08 10:42pm

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blackguitaristz said:

southmpls said:

Love Dog sounds alot like Private Joy

I'm wondering if thats a dig to P, like, "hey i helped you write Private Joy."

Man..... His Mr. Spock eyebrows were ummm, out there.

Dang...I ain't seen this player!


you gotta see it, Andre rocks it.

"the andre cynone handicap = old larry graham"
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Reply #3 posted 03/29/08 12:11pm

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southmpls said:

blackguitaristz said:


Dang...I ain't seen this player!


you gotta see it, Andre rocks it.
Well,..alright!

"the andre cynone handicap = old larry graham"

Huh?...that shit sounds funny! I know Dre digs Larry, what true musician doesn't? But I don't get the connection....Does he mentions this during the gig?
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Reply #4 posted 03/29/08 1:43pm

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blackguitaristz said:

southmpls said:



you gotta see it, Andre rocks it.
Well,..alright!

"the andre cynone handicap = old larry graham"

Huh?...that shit sounds funny! I know Dre digs Larry, what true musician doesn't? But I don't get the connection....Does he mentions this during the gig?


Z, here's the performance southmpls is making mention of:



Bam Bam, drummer of the Andre Cymone Band, has taken the liberty of uploading the entire '83 show on youtube. thumbs up!
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Reply #5 posted 03/29/08 6:17pm

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...walks into thread...
...sees Andre live...
omfg
...snatches up ALL of that Andre Live content in case a certain "sheriff" comes to town...
...apologizes for calling drummers "dummers" all of the time...
...thanks SouthMLPS for starting this thread...
...exits---stage left...
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Reply #6 posted 03/30/08 10:09am

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GoActive said:

blackguitaristz said:


Huh?...that shit sounds funny! I know Dre digs Larry, what true musician doesn't? But I don't get the connection....Does he mentions this during the gig?


Z, here's the performance southmpls is making mention of:



Bam Bam, drummer of the Andre Cymone Band, has taken the liberty of uploading the entire '83 show on youtube. thumbs up!

Damn!! Thanx Go!
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Reply #7 posted 03/30/08 10:35am

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southmpls said:

Love Dog sounds alot like Private Joy

I'm wondering if thats a dig to P, like, "hey i helped you write Private Joy."

Man..... His Mr. Spock eyebrows were ummm, out there.

I see what u mean...Hell,..Dre was doing his own thang and in P's shadow, it wasn't easy. I always give Dre praise for that. He always stayed true to his own vision. I always thought that Jesse's "Special Love" sounded like a slowed down version of Andre's "Love Dog."
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Reply #8 posted 03/30/08 10:53am

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blackguitaristz said:

southmpls said:

Love Dog sounds alot like Private Joy

I'm wondering if thats a dig to P, like, "hey i helped you write Private Joy."

Man..... His Mr. Spock eyebrows were ummm, out there.

I see what u mean...Hell,..Dre was doing his own thang and in P's shadow, it wasn't easy. I always give Dre praise for that. He always stayed true to his own vision. I always thought that Jesse's "Special Love" sounded like a slowed down version of Andre's "Love Dog."

lol The Star Trek references of Dre was coldblooded by South. Anyhoo,Interesting comparison between JJ & Dre.
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Reply #9 posted 03/30/08 1:29pm

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blackguitaristz said:

GoActive said:



Z, here's the performance southmpls is making mention of:



Bam Bam, drummer of the Andre Cymone Band, has taken the liberty of uploading the entire '83 show on youtube. thumbs up!

Damn!! Thanx Go!

Well, it appears the streaming feature isn't available for the video, but it's still viewable at this link:

http://youtube.com/watch?...re=related
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Reply #10 posted 03/30/08 1:39pm

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GoActive said:

blackguitaristz said:


Damn!! Thanx Go!

Well, it appears the streaming feature isn't available for the video, but it's still viewable at this link:

http://youtube.com/watch?...re=related

yeah, I saw it. It's cool. Andre had on some orange shit that reminded me of Devo.
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Reply #11 posted 03/30/08 1:44pm

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blackguitaristz said:

GoActive said:


Well, it appears the streaming feature isn't available for the video, but it's still viewable at this link:

http://youtube.com/watch?...re=related

yeah, I saw it. It's cool. Andre had on some orange shit that reminded me of Devo.

If his whole stage set-up and wardrobe doesn't scream 80's, I don't know what does! The coned shoulder pads are something else. lol
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GoActive said:

blackguitaristz said:


yeah, I saw it. It's cool. Andre had on some orange shit that reminded me of Devo.

If his whole stage set-up and wardrobe doesn't scream 80's, I don't know what does! The coned shoulder pads are something else. lol

Again, I give it up to Cy for him doing his own thing. Being in P's shadow, especially in 83 -85 had to be hard. Folks expected him to act just like P and when he didn't, they were let down I think. Andre was always more personable on stage than P was. And I think he was more truly into new wave than P was too.
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blackguitaristz said:

GoActive said:


If his whole stage set-up and wardrobe doesn't scream 80's, I don't know what does! The coned shoulder pads are something else. lol

Again, I give it up to Cy for him doing his own thing. Being in P's shadow, especially in 83 -85 had to be hard. Folks expected him to act just like P and when he didn't, they were let down I think. Andre was always more personable on stage than P was. And I think he was more truly into new wave than P was too.


Ungrateful bastards!

But seriously, I think the pressure came from Andre being a direct descendant of P's camp. Prince didn't build a mainstream audience until the beginning of the 1999 era. Those wanting to hear Dre adapt a Prince (or as Dre rightfully puts it, Minneapolis Sound) sound were apart of the hardcore fanbase that had been with Prince when he was strictly r&b/underground. Andre jetted towards the end of Dirty Mind, and laid low for most of the Controversy era, you would think he would've been all but forgotten.

For those who weren't getting their fix of P through Dre had PLENTY of other artist to choose from that were going around styling themselves after Prince both musically and image wise! I hope they realized by at least Survivin' In The 80's that he wasn't going to take the easy route and ride the Purple wave.
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GoActive said:

blackguitaristz said:


Again, I give it up to Cy for him doing his own thing. Being in P's shadow, especially in 83 -85 had to be hard. Folks expected him to act just like P and when he didn't, they were let down I think. Andre was always more personable on stage than P was. And I think he was more truly into new wave than P was too.


Ungrateful bastards!

But seriously, I think the pressure came from Andre being a direct descendant of P's camp. Prince didn't build a mainstream audience until the beginning of the 1999 era. Those wanting to hear Dre adapt a Prince (or as Dre rightfully puts it, Minneapolis Sound) sound were apart of the hardcore fanbase that had been with Prince when he was strictly r&b/underground. Andre jetted towards the end of Dirty Mind, and laid low for most of the Controversy era, you would think he would've been all but forgotten.

For those who weren't getting their fix of P through Dre had PLENTY of other artist to choose from that were going around styling themselves after Prince both musically and image wise! I hope they realized by at least Survivin' In The 80's that he wasn't going to take the easy route and ride the Purple wave.

Exactly. And Andre sure could have too. Hell, he did in 85 with "A.C.". Not just cuz of Dance Electric but the rest of the album as well. It was the return to that type of sound that he and P had being doing all along. That's why Dance Electric fit right in with the rest of the album. Dre told me that was an album to make him some money. He KNEW what was hot in 85 and that was P's sound and look. He could do that better than Andre himself.
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blackguitaristz said:

GoActive said:



Ungrateful bastards!

But seriously, I think the pressure came from Andre being a direct descendant of P's camp. Prince didn't build a mainstream audience until the beginning of the 1999 era. Those wanting to hear Dre adapt a Prince (or as Dre rightfully puts it, Minneapolis Sound) sound were apart of the hardcore fanbase that had been with Prince when he was strictly r&b/underground. Andre jetted towards the end of Dirty Mind, and laid low for most of the Controversy era, you would think he would've been all but forgotten.

For those who weren't getting their fix of P through Dre had PLENTY of other artist to choose from that were going around styling themselves after Prince both musically and image wise! I hope they realized by at least Survivin' In The 80's that he wasn't going to take the easy route and ride the Purple wave.

Exactly. And Andre sure could have too. Hell, he did in 85 with "A.C.". Not just cuz of Dance Electric but the rest of the album as well. It was the return to that type of sound that he and P had being doing all along. That's why Dance Electric fit right in with the rest of the album. Dre told me that was an album to make him some money. He KNEW what was hot in 85 and that was P's sound and look. He could do that better than Andre himself.

What I meant to say was "Who could that better than Andre himself?"
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blackguitaristz said:


Exactly. And Andre sure could have too. Hell, he did in 85 with "A.C.". Not just cuz of Dance Electric but the rest of the album as well. It was the return to that type of sound that he and P had being doing all along. That's why Dance Electric fit right in with the rest of the album. Dre told me that was an album to make him some money. He KNEW what was hot in 85 and that was P's sound and look. He could do that better than Andre himself.

What I meant to say was "Who could that better than Andre himself?"

You beat me to it in bringing up A.C. Dre's new wave elements were still on the album, but he pushed the Minneapolis Sound to the forefront more than he did on his previous two efforts. I don't doubt one bit Andre threw together the album to cash in on the burgeoning scene while it was at it's peak. It's almost if he went "yeah, I know I strayed away from whatever you all wanted to hear two albums ago...so as a parting gift, your wishes are granted with A.C."

He probably knew he was coming onto something big with Jody, so that was the perfect exit!
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Reply #17 posted 03/30/08 6:27pm

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that is just unbearably bad! it's no wonder andre had better luck as a producer.
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Reply #18 posted 03/30/08 7:32pm

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blackguitaristz said:

GoActive said:


Well, it appears the streaming feature isn't available for the video, but it's still viewable at this link:

http://youtube.com/watch?...re=related

yeah, I saw it. It's cool. Andre had on some orange shit that reminded me of Devo.

nod That's the first thing I thought when I saw the video.
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that is just unbearably bad! it's no wonder andre had better luck as a producer.

Well, it's obvious that Dre wasn't the performer P was or is. But in defense of my boy Dre, I thought he was cool never the less. I liked it better when he was playing bass and singing during his show. It fit him better.
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Reply #20 posted 03/30/08 9:43pm

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blackguitaristz said:

wavesofbliss said:

that is just unbearably bad! it's no wonder andre had better luck as a producer.

Well, it's obvious that Dre wasn't the performer P was or is. But in defense of my boy Dre, I thought he was cool never the less. I liked it better when he was playing bass and singing during his show. It fit him better.

nod That's where AC is more at his comfort zone.
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MsLegs said:

blackguitaristz said:


Well, it's obvious that Dre wasn't the performer P was or is. But in defense of my boy Dre, I thought he was cool never the less. I liked it better when he was playing bass and singing during his show. It fit him better.

nod That's where AC is more at his comfort zone.



So true. Go check out "Body Thang" live and you'll see that.
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Reply #22 posted 04/01/08 8:28am

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this is wy a.c. needs to record again and release some of his unreleased stuff
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Reply #23 posted 04/01/08 8:43am

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I wish he would be a little more out there! playin his old music, new music, tour?

something!!!

he could sell out first ave a couple nights if he came back
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Reply #24 posted 04/01/08 9:38am

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I like having this coz I love stuff like this,but Andre's performance was...pretty bad. It's cool to have,though.
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Reply #25 posted 04/09/08 6:58pm

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MsLegs said:[quote]

blackguitaristz said:


I see what u mean...Hell,..Dre was doing his own thang and in P's shadow, it wasn't easy. I always give Dre praise for that. He always stayed true to his own vision. I always thought that Jesse's "Special Love" sounded like a slowed down version of Andre's "Love Dog."

lol The Star Trek references of Dre was coldblooded by South. Anyhoo,Interesting comparison between JJ & Dre.
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youre right it was cold blooded, with love. I commend him on going the opposite direction of dude, i dont think he needed to, and i love his work.
Was he really new wave?
Was new wave interested in a black frontman?

And i will never listen to special love the same way again.
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Reply #26 posted 04/18/08 3:27pm

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Andre made some great tracks but Prince made epics. There is really no comparison. Andre started copying Prince's sounds in the studio
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