Heiress, it's not a question of whether I believe. The point is that your are disclosing information as fact (which I wholly believe in your mind it is), however, that doesn't take away from the story which, if I have understood correctly, is that someone who believes they are not a liar (a JW from his congregation) has told another someone who believes they are not a liar (you) a piece of information that in today's court of law would still be considered an unsubstantiated rumour. I'm not here to change your mind or what you believe or know to be true but I do take issue with how you present such information in lieu of the audience here. | |
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Anji said: Heiress, it's not a question of whether I believe. The point is that your are disclosing information as fact (which I wholly believe in your mind it is), however, that doesn't take away from the story which, if I have understood correctly, is that someone who believes they are not a liar (a JW from his congregation) has told another someone who believes they are not a liar (you) a piece of information that in today's court of law would still be considered an unsubstantiated rumour. I'm not here to change your mind or what you believe or know to be true but I do take issue with how you present such information in lieu of the audience here.
You have the right to your opinion. | |
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And you have the right to reflect on the appropriateness of your disclosure.
This is not just about opinions; there are legal implications to everything. | |
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Anji said: And you have the right to reflect on the appropriateness of your disclosure.
This is not just about opinions; there are legal implications to everything. well, let them come sue me if it's not true then. PS. I've already mentioned this ages ago... and I'm not the only one. If anyone had wanted to sue me, they could have done it by now. But then Prince would also have to sue all the people who say that he banged Tamar, the Twinz, etc... [Edited 4/1/08 3:18am] | |
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Heiress, it's not the termination of your marriage that we are discussing.
Legal implications refer to settlement of the relevant parties i.e. not you. It would be self-absorbed of you to think otherwise. | |
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Anji said: Heiress, it's not the termination of your marriage that we are discussing.
Legal implications refer to settlement of the relevant parties i.e. not you. It would be self-absorbed of you to think otherwise. and your point is? | |
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Heiress, you yourself said that you 'probably shouldn't talk about this here'.
Read what you wrote and reflect on the appropriateness of your disclosure. You even included a symbol as if to say, hush hush. Perhaps, the point is to take your own advice. | |
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Anji said: Heiress, you yourself said that you 'probably shouldn't talk about this here'.
Read what you wrote and reflect on the appropriateness of your disclosure. You even included a symbol as if to say, hush hush. Perhaps, the point is to take your own advice. You are right; to me it's a matter of discretion or lack thereof, and not of legalities. But then again, how can telling the truth be a bad thing? Call it what you want it, I guess. | |
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CalhounSq said: I heard... & an Orger said... & she looks like... LAWD, this entire thread is fucking retarded
. [Edited 4/1/08 2:17am] MY THREAD AIN'T RETARDED!!! I MIGHT BE...A LITTLE BIT, BUT MY THREAD AIN'T RETARDED. WHY YOU ALWAYS TRYING TO TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY? I DIDN'T DO NOTHING TO YOU!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!! Just kidding. | |
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Anji said: Heiress, you yourself said that you 'probably shouldn't talk about this here'.
Read what you wrote and reflect on the appropriateness of your disclosure. You even included a symbol as if to say, hush hush. Perhaps, the point is to take your own advice. ...all of your comments sound like this is very personal for you you sure you're not "the guy" LOVE HARD. | |
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mayebelle81 said: CalhounSq said: I heard... & an Orger said... & she looks like... LAWD, this entire thread is fucking retarded
. [Edited 4/1/08 2:17am] MY THREAD AIN'T RETARDED!!! I MIGHT BE...A LITTLE BIT, BUT MY THREAD AIN'T RETARDED. WHY YOU ALWAYS TRYING TO TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY? I DIDN'T DO NOTHING TO YOU!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!! Just kidding. You know you got some goofy shit on your hands | |
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Heiress said: Anji said: Heiress, it's not a question of whether I believe. The point is that your are disclosing information as fact (which I wholly believe in your mind it is), however, that doesn't take away from the story which, if I have understood correctly, is that someone who believes they are not a liar (a JW from his congregation) has told another someone who believes they are not a liar (you) a piece of information that in today's court of law would still be considered an unsubstantiated rumour. I'm not here to change your mind or what you believe or know to be true but I do take issue with how you present such information in lieu of the audience here.
You have the right to your opinion. and so do you! talking w/ my attorney 2day as long as you say"in my opinion" you cannot get sued and call it the way u see it but he only practices in montana and arizona(where he spends my money golfing but thats just my opinion) | |
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CalhounSq said: mayebelle81 said: MY THREAD AIN'T RETARDED!!! I MIGHT BE...A LITTLE BIT, BUT MY THREAD AIN'T RETARDED. WHY YOU ALWAYS TRYING TO TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY? I DIDN'T DO NOTHING TO YOU!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!! Just kidding. You know you got some goofy shit on your hands I know, but I can't help it. | |
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Heiress said: Anji said: Heiress, you yourself said that you 'probably shouldn't talk about this here'.
Read what you wrote and reflect on the appropriateness of your disclosure. You even included a symbol as if to say, hush hush. Perhaps, the point is to take your own advice. You are right; to me it's a matter of discretion or lack thereof, and not of legalities. But then again, how can telling the truth be a bad thing? Call it what you want it, I guess. Telling the truth is not a bad thing per se. However, your "opinion" of the truth does not necessarily make it "the truth" ...even if JW's, as a rule, don't lie. | |
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CalhounSq said: [i]I heard... & an Orger said...
. [Edited 4/1/08 2:17am] Yeah, that was a foul on the play. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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misslilly said: Heiress said: You have the right to your opinion. and so do you! talking w/ my attorney 2day as long as you say"in my opinion" you cannot get sued and call it the way u see it but he only practices in montana and arizona(where he spends my money golfing but thats just my opinion) Thanks for the info, misslilly. | |
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Heiress said: Evvy said: if you divorce without fornication being the reason- then you commit adultery if you re-marry. for JWs It's possible to legally separate if you are being abused- which often leads to fornication, resulting in divorce right, that's biblical; adultery as justification for remarriage. i divorced rather than just legally separating, for reasons of abuse. but i did not plan to remarrying anyone until i had some evidence of adultery on his part (just had a suspicion). i did get the evidence of adultery later... but frankly, just getting away and severing legal ties was quite enough. suffice to say, mani cheated on prince, so their marriage was broken biblically. Now that's interesting, or whether an interesting way of putting it. Seems to clear up a lot, at least for me. | |
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I dont think Mani cheated on Prince.Im not saying she didnt.But I dont see a woman moving away from her family to become her married musical idol's personal assistant just to cheat on him in a couple of years.I see it to be more likely that Prince, who we all know has a track record of cheating on his women, to try to settle down but puts himself in tempting situations way too soon and then old Princey pops up with his cheating ways...Mani tries to 4give and go on(or maybe she doesnt) but he messes up again...and shes done.
Thats how I see it. Im an orger and thats about it so you can throw my opinion on top of all the other bullsh*t theories flying around here...but thats just how I see it playing out | |
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CalhounSq said: I heard... & an Orger said... & she looks like... LAWD, this entire thread is fucking retarded
. [Edited 4/1/08 2:17am] | |
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Heiress said: Anji said: Irrespective of who passes the information (JW from his congregation) and irrespective of whether anyone wholly believes they are telling the truth (liar or not), this information still qualifies as unsubstaintiated rumour, don't you think?
Well, believe whatever you like. | |
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Stymie said: Heiress said: Well, believe whatever you like. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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Stymie said: Heiress said: Well, believe whatever you like. Oh please... he's a well-known individual, and his business will be known in the congregation and elsewhere. There's nothing to fear, if there's nothing to hide. | |
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Heiress said: Stymie said: If a JW in his congregation did that, what does this say of Witnesses who proclaim to be the chosen ones? It says to me that some are down for gossip and no better than the rest of us.
Oh please... he's a well-known individual, and his business will be known in the congregation and elsewhere. There's nothing to fear, if there's nothing to hide. Don't you think it's a little bit sad that he can't trust his own religion? | |
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Stymie said: Heiress said: Oh please... he's a well-known individual, and his business will be known in the congregation and elsewhere. There's nothing to fear, if there's nothing to hide. Don't you think it's a little bit sad that he can't trust his own religion? those court papers, from my understanding, are sealed!!!! | |
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Stymie said: Heiress said: Oh please... he's a well-known individual, and his business will be known in the congregation and elsewhere. There's nothing to fear, if there's nothing to hide. Don't you think it's a little bit sad that he can't trust his own religion? Well, that's your point of view, because you don't trust any religions yourself. My point is just to prove that Prince is not always some kind of a pimp like he's always portrayed here. I know there's always two sides to a story; and Prince already revealed his in a video which said it all... Do you remember it? It was Fury, a version briefly released in Europe. So I suppose he doesn't mind that the truth be known? | |
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Heiress said: Stymie said: But what business is it of the congregation and now, of ours? I have no reason to doubt you lady, I really don't but I really can't imagine that Mani or Prince would have shared this information with anyone.
Don't you think it's a little bit sad that he can't trust his own religion? Well, that's your point of view, because you don't trust any religions yourself. My point is just to prove that Prince is not always some kind of a pimp like he's always portrayed here. I know there's always two sides to a story; and Prince already revealed his in a video which said it all... Do you remember it? It was Fury, a version briefly released in Europe. So I suppose he doesn't mind that the truth be known? People can portray Prince any way they want but none of them know him, do they? So anything here is rumor or secondhand and I ignore it anyway. | |
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Stymie said: Heiress said: Well, that's your point of view, because you don't trust any religions yourself. My point is just to prove that Prince is not always some kind of a pimp like he's always portrayed here. I know there's always two sides to a story; and Prince already revealed his in a video which said it all... Do you remember it? It was Fury, a version briefly released in Europe. So I suppose he doesn't mind that the truth be known? People can portray Prince any way they want but none of them know him, do they? So anything here is rumor or secondhand and I ignore it anyway. Well, the video showed more than one interpretation of the woman in question... quite long to explain. Suffice to say, as far as the congregation goes, we know if a divorce is happening that some kind of adultery has gone on... that's no mystery to us. Unless it's an example of blatant abuse like I explained above. Nobody has to know anything about what went on unless it was already known; get my drift? If it's a public scandal, the innocent party must be vindicated in some way. It's not like their name & sin are announced from the platform, you know? But a person might lose public privileges & the like. | |
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So, Mani cheated on Prince with a woman? | |
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PurpleCharm said: So, Mani cheated on Prince with a woman? | |
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