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Why was Moderniare never released? Another Q for the experts. I know that most of the Purple Rain material in one form or another was made made available. But poor Dez was left behind on the Purple Rain boat. Why was this? | |
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Dez was never signed by a record label. A few showed interest, but none came through in the end. So no "Modernaire" for us. 
Now Dez has since lost the master tapes and had to copy "Modernaire" onto disc from an old cassette tape for his Retrospective 2CD a few years ago. | |
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sextonseven said: Dez was never signed by a record label. A few showed interest, but none came through in the end. So no "Modernaire" for us.
Now Dez has since lost the master tapes and had to copy "Modernaire" onto disc from an old cassette tape for his Retrospective 2CD a few years ago. I heard some way out shit about what actually had happen. That was one of the reasons I bought Dez's book, to see if this was in there. It wasn't. I heard about 12, 13 years ago from someone who used to work in the A&R department at Warners that P went to Mo Ostin, who he was tight with, and asked if Dez's release could be put off untill later that year, in 84. His reason was because he felt Dez's album would pull sales from his, A6, The Time, Sheila's, etc. Which I couldn't see that happening. Dez's album was slated to be released by WB in early summer. Right along with everybody's else from the Purple Rain film. Then after it was pushed back, WB decided not to release it at all. This is what I had heard. This was from a cat that worked at WB from 1980 to 86. Don't know if this cat was bullshiting or not. Dez's album was sure ready for release. He had a song in the film, where he was featured with his band. I saw Dez later that year opening up for Billy Idol. He got such a great reception. Billy's fans KNEW who Dez was. He was far from an unknown.It's a stone mystery why WB wouldn't have released his album. Dez was the MOST recognized member in P's band. EVERYBODY who was a fan of P at that point knew who Dez was. It would have been more money made for Warner's to release Dez's album. It would have sold well. U would have had folks bought Dez's album that wouldn't have bought A6. I say the majority of people who were P fans dug Dez as well. No way they wouldn't have bought that album. It doesn't make any sense. I know what Dez said went down in his book. I don't have any reason to doubt the man. But it was crazy as hell for WB to not release his album. That's why my mind always drifts back to what that cat who worked for Warners said. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: sextonseven said: Dez was never signed by a record label. A few showed interest, but none came through in the end. So no "Modernaire" for us.
Now Dez has since lost the master tapes and had to copy "Modernaire" onto disc from an old cassette tape for his Retrospective 2CD a few years ago. I heard some way out shit about what actually had happen. That was one of the reasons I bought Dez's book, to see if this was in there. It wasn't. I heard about 12, 13 years ago from someone who used to work in the A&R department at Warners that P went to Mo Ostin, who he was tight with, and asked if Dez's release could be put off untill later that year, in 84. His reason was because he felt Dez's album would pull sales from his, A6, The Time, Sheila's, etc. Which I couldn't see that happening. Dez's album was slated to be released by WB in early summer. Right along with everybody's else from the Purple Rain film. Then after it was pushed back, WB decided not to release it at all. This is what I had heard. This was from a cat that worked at WB from 1980 to 86. Don't know if this cat was bullshiting or not. Dez's album was sure ready for release. He had a song in the film, where he was featured with his band. I saw Dez later that year opening up for Billy Idol. He got such a great reception. Billy's fans KNEW who Dez was. He was far from an unknown.It's a stone mystery why WB wouldn't have released his album. Dez was the MOST recognized member in P's band. EVERYBODY who was a fan of P at that point knew who Dez was. It would have been more money made for Warner's to release Dez's album. It would have sold well. U would have had folks bought Dez's album that wouldn't have bought A6. I say the majority of people who were P fans dug Dez as well. No way they wouldn't have bought that album. It doesn't make any sense. I know what Dez said went down in his book. I don't have any reason to doubt the man. But it was crazy as hell for WB to not release his album. That's why my mind always drifts back to what that cat who worked for Warners said.  | |
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blackguitaristz said: sextonseven said: Dez was never signed by a record label. A few showed interest, but none came through in the end. So no "Modernaire" for us.
Now Dez has since lost the master tapes and had to copy "Modernaire" onto disc from an old cassette tape for his Retrospective 2CD a few years ago. I heard some way out shit about what actually had happen. That was one of the reasons I bought Dez's book, to see if this was in there. It wasn't. I heard about 12, 13 years ago from someone who used to work in the A&R department at Warners that P went to Mo Ostin, who he was tight with, and asked if Dez's release could be put off untill later that year, in 84. His reason was because he felt Dez's album would pull sales from his, A6, The Time, Sheila's, etc. Which I couldn't see that happening. Dez's album was slated to be released by WB in early summer. Right along with everybody's else from the Purple Rain film. Then after it was pushed back, WB decided not to release it at all. This is what I had heard. This was from a cat that worked at WB from 1980 to 86. Don't know if this cat was bullshiting or not. Dez's album was sure ready for release. He had a song in the film, where he was featured with his band. I saw Dez later that year opening up for Billy Idol. He got such a great reception. Billy's fans KNEW who Dez was. He was far from an unknown.It's a stone mystery why WB wouldn't have released his album. Dez was the MOST recognized member in P's band. EVERYBODY who was a fan of P at that point knew who Dez was. It would have been more money made for Warner's to release Dez's album. It would have sold well. U would have had folks bought Dez's album that wouldn't have bought A6. I say the majority of people who were P fans dug Dez as well. No way they wouldn't have bought that album. It doesn't make any sense. I know what Dez said went down in his book. I don't have any reason to doubt the man. But it was crazy as hell for WB to not release his album. That's why my mind always drifts back to what that cat who worked for Warners said. WOW!!!!! WHAT A "BITCH MOVE" ON P'S PART!!!! IT WOULD'VE BEEN A GOOD LOOK FOR HIM AS WELL IF WB RELEASED DEZ' SOLO P. I'VE HEARD THE 2-DISC RETROSPECTIVE, AND IT'S SO LEFT FIELD OF P BUT A DIRECT INFLUENCE ON P AS WELL. IT WAS PRICELESS ALONE TO HEAR THE OG VERSION OF "AFTER HI SCHOOL", WHICH WOULD'VE WORKED WELL IN THE "FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH" MOVIE AND ON THE SDTK!! I ALSO HEARD A STORY THAT PURPLE RAIN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DOUBLE ALBUM LIKE GRAFFITI BRIDGE AND WOULD'VE FEATURED NOT ONLY PRINCE, BUT ALL THE ARTISTS INCLUDING DEZ. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A GOOD LOOK AS WELL!!!!! HATERADE!!!!! PURE HATERADE!!!!!  | |
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blackguitaristz said: sextonseven said: Dez was never signed by a record label. A few showed interest, but none came through in the end. So no "Modernaire" for us.
Now Dez has since lost the master tapes and had to copy "Modernaire" onto disc from an old cassette tape for his Retrospective 2CD a few years ago. I heard some way out shit about what actually had happen. That was one of the reasons I bought Dez's book, to see if this was in there. It wasn't. I heard about 12, 13 years ago from someone who used to work in the A&R department at Warners that P went to Mo Ostin, who he was tight with, and asked if Dez's release could be put off untill later that year, in 84. His reason was because he felt Dez's album would pull sales from his, A6, The Time, Sheila's, etc. Which I couldn't see that happening. Dez's album was slated to be released by WB in early summer. Right along with everybody's else from the Purple Rain film. Then after it was pushed back, WB decided not to release it at all. This is what I had heard. This was from a cat that worked at WB from 1980 to 86. Don't know if this cat was bullshiting or not. Dez's album was sure ready for release. He had a song in the film, where he was featured with his band. I saw Dez later that year opening up for Billy Idol. He got such a great reception. Billy's fans KNEW who Dez was. He was far from an unknown.It's a stone mystery why WB wouldn't have released his album. Dez was the MOST recognized member in P's band. EVERYBODY who was a fan of P at that point knew who Dez was. It would have been more money made for Warner's to release Dez's album. It would have sold well. U would have had folks bought Dez's album that wouldn't have bought A6. I say the majority of people who were P fans dug Dez as well. No way they wouldn't have bought that album. It doesn't make any sense. I know what Dez said went down in his book. I don't have any reason to doubt the man. But it was crazy as hell for WB to not release his album. That's why my mind always drifts back to what that cat who worked for Warners said. Wow,that's interesting.Do you know if the album was produced (or co-produced) by Prince? I would kill to hear it,if it really exists. | |
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blackguitaristz said: sextonseven said: Dez was never signed by a record label. A few showed interest, but none came through in the end. So no "Modernaire" for us.
Now Dez has since lost the master tapes and had to copy "Modernaire" onto disc from an old cassette tape for his Retrospective 2CD a few years ago. I heard some way out shit about what actually had happen. That was one of the reasons I bought Dez's book, to see if this was in there. It wasn't. I heard about 12, 13 years ago from someone who used to work in the A&R department at Warners that P went to Mo Ostin, who he was tight with, and asked if Dez's release could be put off untill later that year, in 84. His reason was because he felt Dez's album would pull sales from his, A6, The Time, Sheila's, etc. Which I couldn't see that happening. Dez's album was slated to be released by WB in early summer. Right along with everybody's else from the Purple Rain film. Then after it was pushed back, WB decided not to release it at all. This is what I had heard. This was from a cat that worked at WB from 1980 to 86. Don't know if this cat was bullshiting or not. Dez's album was sure ready for release. He had a song in the film, where he was featured with his band. I saw Dez later that year opening up for Billy Idol. He got such a great reception. Billy's fans KNEW who Dez was. He was far from an unknown.It's a stone mystery why WB wouldn't have released his album. Dez was the MOST recognized member in P's band. EVERYBODY who was a fan of P at that point knew who Dez was. It would have been more money made for Warner's to release Dez's album. It would have sold well. U would have had folks bought Dez's album that wouldn't have bought A6. I say the majority of people who were P fans dug Dez as well. No way they wouldn't have bought that album. It doesn't make any sense. I know what Dez said went down in his book. I don't have any reason to doubt the man. But it was crazy as hell for WB to not release his album. That's why my mind always drifts back to what that cat who worked for Warners said. True or not, the length that munchkin in heels will go is so laughable  
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It was released. I have it.....but 99% of the other songs STINK. | |
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from what I remember WB didn't want a Dez album, they wanted Dez to do a "Prince" album (meaning something that sounded like Prince, not the more rock/new wave based sound that Dez wanted)..
after Dez standing his ground, time passed and the moment to cash in on Purple Rain's buzz had passed and so WB passed on the release of it. but that's off the top of my head, don't remember the source for this post.. | |
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Graycap23 said: It was released. I have it.....but 99% of the other songs STINK.
the other songs don't stink  LOL | |
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woogiebear said: blackguitaristz said: I heard some way out shit about what actually had happen. That was one of the reasons I bought Dez's book, to see if this was in there. It wasn't. I heard about 12, 13 years ago from someone who used to work in the A&R department at Warners that P went to Mo Ostin, who he was tight with, and asked if Dez's release could be put off untill later that year, in 84. His reason was because he felt Dez's album would pull sales from his, A6, The Time, Sheila's, etc. Which I couldn't see that happening. Dez's album was slated to be released by WB in early summer. Right along with everybody's else from the Purple Rain film. Then after it was pushed back, WB decided not to release it at all. This is what I had heard. This was from a cat that worked at WB from 1980 to 86. Don't know if this cat was bullshiting or not. Dez's album was sure ready for release. He had a song in the film, where he was featured with his band. I saw Dez later that year opening up for Billy Idol. He got such a great reception. Billy's fans KNEW who Dez was. He was far from an unknown.It's a stone mystery why WB wouldn't have released his album. Dez was the MOST recognized member in P's band. EVERYBODY who was a fan of P at that point knew who Dez was. It would have been more money made for Warner's to release Dez's album. It would have sold well. U would have had folks bought Dez's album that wouldn't have bought A6. I say the majority of people who were P fans dug Dez as well. No way they wouldn't have bought that album. It doesn't make any sense. I know what Dez said went down in his book. I don't have any reason to doubt the man. But it was crazy as hell for WB to not release his album. That's why my mind always drifts back to what that cat who worked for Warners said. WOW!!!!! WHAT A "BITCH MOVE" ON P'S PART!!!! IT WOULD'VE BEEN A GOOD LOOK FOR HIM AS WELL IF WB RELEASED DEZ' SOLO P. I'VE HEARD THE 2-DISC RETROSPECTIVE, AND IT'S SO LEFT FIELD OF P BUT A DIRECT INFLUENCE ON P AS WELL. IT WAS PRICELESS ALONE TO HEAR THE OG VERSION OF "AFTER HI SCHOOL", WHICH WOULD'VE WORKED WELL IN THE "FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH" MOVIE AND ON THE SDTK!! I ALSO HEARD A STORY THAT PURPLE RAIN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DOUBLE ALBUM LIKE GRAFFITI BRIDGE AND WOULD'VE FEATURED NOT ONLY PRINCE, BUT ALL THE ARTISTS INCLUDING DEZ. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A GOOD LOOK AS WELL!!!!! HATERADE!!!!! PURE HATERADE!!!!! yes, the double album would have been very cool.. | |
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SoulAlive said: blackguitaristz said: I heard some way out shit about what actually had happen. That was one of the reasons I bought Dez's book, to see if this was in there. It wasn't. I heard about 12, 13 years ago from someone who used to work in the A&R department at Warners that P went to Mo Ostin, who he was tight with, and asked if Dez's release could be put off untill later that year, in 84. His reason was because he felt Dez's album would pull sales from his, A6, The Time, Sheila's, etc. Which I couldn't see that happening. Dez's album was slated to be released by WB in early summer. Right along with everybody's else from the Purple Rain film. Then after it was pushed back, WB decided not to release it at all. This is what I had heard. This was from a cat that worked at WB from 1980 to 86. Don't know if this cat was bullshiting or not. Dez's album was sure ready for release. He had a song in the film, where he was featured with his band. I saw Dez later that year opening up for Billy Idol. He got such a great reception. Billy's fans KNEW who Dez was. He was far from an unknown.It's a stone mystery why WB wouldn't have released his album. Dez was the MOST recognized member in P's band. EVERYBODY who was a fan of P at that point knew who Dez was. It would have been more money made for Warner's to release Dez's album. It would have sold well. U would have had folks bought Dez's album that wouldn't have bought A6. I say the majority of people who were P fans dug Dez as well. No way they wouldn't have bought that album. It doesn't make any sense. I know what Dez said went down in his book. I don't have any reason to doubt the man. But it was crazy as hell for WB to not release his album. That's why my mind always drifts back to what that cat who worked for Warners said. Wow,that's interesting.Do you know if the album was produced (or co-produced) by Prince? I would kill to hear it,if it really exists. The version of the album that was finally put out by Dez, I don't believe is the same one that Warners was slated to release in 84. Before the movie was even released, I remember seeing MTV veejay Martha Quinn (a Prince fanatic) reporting about news of Dez's solo album. And that Prince was helping Dez produce some of the songs. Sure, Dez would have wanted to have his own sound but Dez wasn't a stupid cat. He knew that having P on board on some of the songs or production was going to be a feather in his hat with WB. I think Warner's just assumed that P was going to be involved. A no brainer. But....something went down, that's for damn sure. And it didn't benifit Dez. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: SoulAlive said: Wow,that's interesting.Do you know if the album was produced (or co-produced) by Prince? I would kill to hear it,if it really exists. The version of the album that was finally put out by Dez, I don't believe is the same one that Warners was slated to release in 84. Before the movie was even released, I remember seeing MTV veejay Martha Quinn (a Prince fanatic) reporting about news of Dez's solo album. And that Prince was helping Dez produce some of the songs. Sure, Dez would have wanted to have his own sound but Dez wasn't a stupid cat. He knew that having P on board on some of the songs or production was going to be a feather in his hat with WB. I think Warner's just assumed that P was going to be involved. A no brainer. But....something went down, that's for damn sure. And it didn't benifit Dez. True. | |
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blackguitaristz said: SoulAlive said: Wow,that's interesting.Do you know if the album was produced (or co-produced) by Prince? I would kill to hear it,if it really exists. The version of the album that was finally put out by Dez, I don't believe is the same one that Warners was slated to release in 84. Before the movie was even released, I remember seeing MTV veejay Martha Quinn (a Prince fanatic) reporting about news of Dez's solo album. And that Prince was helping Dez produce some of the songs. Sure, Dez would have wanted to have his own sound but Dez wasn't a stupid cat. He knew that having P on board on some of the songs or production was going to be a feather in his hat with WB. I think Warner's just assumed that P was going to be involved. A no brainer. But....something went down, that's for damn sure. And it didn't benifit Dez.  | |
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blackguitaristz said: sextonseven said: Dez was never signed by a record label. A few showed interest, but none came through in the end. So no "Modernaire" for us.
Now Dez has since lost the master tapes and had to copy "Modernaire" onto disc from an old cassette tape for his Retrospective 2CD a few years ago. I heard some way out shit about what actually had happen. That was one of the reasons I bought Dez's book, to see if this was in there. It wasn't. I heard about 12, 13 years ago from someone who used to work in the A&R department at Warners that P went to Mo Ostin, who he was tight with, and asked if Dez's release could be put off untill later that year, in 84. His reason was because he felt Dez's album would pull sales from his, A6, The Time, Sheila's, etc. Which I couldn't see that happening. Dez's album was slated to be released by WB in early summer. Right along with everybody's else from the Purple Rain film. Then after it was pushed back, WB decided not to release it at all. This is what I had heard. This was from a cat that worked at WB from 1980 to 86. Don't know if this cat was bullshiting or not. Dez's album was sure ready for release. He had a song in the film, where he was featured with his band. I saw Dez later that year opening up for Billy Idol. He got such a great reception. Billy's fans KNEW who Dez was. He was far from an unknown.It's a stone mystery why WB wouldn't have released his album. Dez was the MOST recognized member in P's band. EVERYBODY who was a fan of P at that point knew who Dez was. It would have been more money made for Warner's to release Dez's album. It would have sold well. U would have had folks bought Dez's album that wouldn't have bought A6. I say the majority of people who were P fans dug Dez as well. No way they wouldn't have bought that album. It doesn't make any sense. I know what Dez said went down in his book. I don't have any reason to doubt the man. But it was crazy as hell for WB to not release his album. That's why my mind always drifts back to what that cat who worked for Warners said. That's crazy if it's true. Especially after Prince worked with Dez on "Modernaire" (according to Dez). | |
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sextonseven said: blackguitaristz said: I heard some way out shit about what actually had happen. That was one of the reasons I bought Dez's book, to see if this was in there. It wasn't. I heard about 12, 13 years ago from someone who used to work in the A&R department at Warners that P went to Mo Ostin, who he was tight with, and asked if Dez's release could be put off untill later that year, in 84. His reason was because he felt Dez's album would pull sales from his, A6, The Time, Sheila's, etc. Which I couldn't see that happening. Dez's album was slated to be released by WB in early summer. Right along with everybody's else from the Purple Rain film. Then after it was pushed back, WB decided not to release it at all. This is what I had heard. This was from a cat that worked at WB from 1980 to 86. Don't know if this cat was bullshiting or not. Dez's album was sure ready for release. He had a song in the film, where he was featured with his band. I saw Dez later that year opening up for Billy Idol. He got such a great reception. Billy's fans KNEW who Dez was. He was far from an unknown.It's a stone mystery why WB wouldn't have released his album. Dez was the MOST recognized member in P's band. EVERYBODY who was a fan of P at that point knew who Dez was. It would have been more money made for Warner's to release Dez's album. It would have sold well. U would have had folks bought Dez's album that wouldn't have bought A6. I say the majority of people who were P fans dug Dez as well. No way they wouldn't have bought that album. It doesn't make any sense. I know what Dez said went down in his book. I don't have any reason to doubt the man. But it was crazy as hell for WB to not release his album. That's why my mind always drifts back to what that cat who worked for Warners said. That's crazy if it's true. Especially after Prince worked with Dez on "Modernaire" (according to Dez). That's exactly what I'm saying....The track "Modernaire" sounds like a P production. I think the song would have been a hit single. If it had a cool as video too? Hell, MTV would have worn that out. Dez was a good looking cat,cool ass image. Many girls dug Dez when their weren't even into P. So the single would have worked. Things had a funny way of working out for Prince. Even though Morris and Jerome killed it in the film, stole the show from P. STILL, P didn't have to trip on getting upstaged by The Time on the PR tour cuz Morris quit. So that worked out for P. Dez decided to leave the band BEFORE they did the film. Which I always found to be odd. That worked out for P. The film would have been TOTALLY different if Dez was still in the band. P would have had a harder time selling the Hendrix angle like he did if Dez was in the band. P didn't have any visual compettition with Dez gone. Who was going to do it? Wendy? Some girl nobody knew? Mark? Hell, Mark was barely even in the movie. With no lines. Not one. So P had clear sailing. He could vamp and echo Hendrix till the cows came home. Ever since I was a kid, I ALWAYS thought it was strange timing that Dez left when he did. Totally different with Vanity. V wasn't going to be stuck up under P's control. She was getting offers from left and right that didn't have jack to do with P's ass. So, even though P based Purple Rain around V, V knew she had to bounce when she did. She went on and released other albums without P. Actually doing some cool shit with Jesse. They really should have done a whole album together. V went and did movies, u know. Dez, on the other hand, how in the hell is he not going to capitalize from being the most charismatic member in P's band? How does that happen? Very strange. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: How does that happen? Very strange.
Not strange at all.....he said he got a calling from God. | |
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Graycap23 said: blackguitaristz said: How does that happen? Very strange.
Not strange at all.....he said he got a calling from God. Yeah I know what Dez said. Like I mentioned earlier, I'm hip to what Dez said went down. I just wonder did he get a call from God AFTER he saw WB wasn't going to release his album? SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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In the Dez book does it say he or P produced that joint? Either way I love it bump it all the time | |
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DecaturStone said: In the Dez book does it say he or P produced that joint? Either way I love it bump it all the time
Well, P came up with the title "Modernaire" and he produced that track. So therefore, he's probably playing some shit on it. Especially the keys. Another hint that P had his hand in the production of that song; Are ya'll aware that there is a backward track on the song? All the way through it, a girl is saying "Can u help me?" but it's in reverse. That's some P shit all the way. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Graycap23 said: blackguitaristz said: How does that happen? Very strange.
Not strange at all.....he said he got a calling from God. And the calling was "Where the heck is the 2CD package and book I ordered from you 9 months ago, Dez?" | |
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blackguitaristz said:[quote] DecaturStone said: Are ya'll aware that there is a backward track on the song? All the way through it, a girl is saying "Can u help me?" but it's in reverse. That's some P shit all the way.
Lol.....I'll have 2 check that out. | |
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blackguitaristz said: Graycap23 said: Not strange at all.....he said he got a calling from God. Yeah I know what Dez said. Like I mentioned earlier, I'm hip to what Dez said went down. I just wonder did he get a call from God AFTER he saw WB wasn't going to release his album? After.....u know the deal. | |
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Mong said: Graycap23 said: Not strange at all.....he said he got a calling from God. And the calling was "Where the heck is the 2CD package and book I ordered from you 9 months ago, Dez?" It took me quite a long time 2 receive mind as well. $55 for one song was not cool. Never again. | |
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Graycap23 said: Mong said: And the calling was "Where the heck is the 2CD package and book I ordered from you 9 months ago, Dez?" It took me quite a long time 2 receive mind as well. $55 for one song was not cool. Never again. I hear ya. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: DecaturStone said: In the Dez book does it say he or P produced that joint? Either way I love it bump it all the time
Well, P came up with the title "Modernaire" and he produced that track. So therefore, he's probably playing some shit on it. Especially the keys. Another hint that P had his hand in the production of that song; Are ya'll aware that there is a backward track on the song? All the way through it, a girl is saying "Can u help me?" but it's in reverse. That's some P shit all the way. yeah, he and prince did that track together... | |
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After the 2 CD set was released, Dez stated on his website that he had found an extended version of "Modernaire", as well as his demo of "He's so dull", and mentioned that they may be released in the future. [Edited 3/19/08 22:19pm] | |
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Prince should've put him on Paisley Park.... Maybe we can go to the movies and cry together | |
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JEDINATION said: blackguitaristz said: Well, P came up with the title "Modernaire" and he produced that track. So therefore, he's probably playing some shit on it. Especially the keys. Another hint that P had his hand in the production of that song; Are ya'll aware that there is a backward track on the song? All the way through it, a girl is saying "Can u help me?" but it's in reverse. That's some P shit all the way. yeah, he and prince did that track together... yep, Dez of course had his original version... Prince then produced his version so that it could be used in the movie with that "Purple Rain" kinda sound. still would've loved to hear Dez's own version. hope he finds one to share someday. [Edited 3/21/08 1:51am] | |
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GoActive said: blackguitaristz said: I heard some way out shit about what actually had happen. That was one of the reasons I bought Dez's book, to see if this was in there. It wasn't. I heard about 12, 13 years ago from someone who used to work in the A&R department at Warners that P went to Mo Ostin, who he was tight with, and asked if Dez's release could be put off untill later that year, in 84. His reason was because he felt Dez's album would pull sales from his, A6, The Time, Sheila's, etc. Which I couldn't see that happening. Dez's album was slated to be released by WB in early summer. Right along with everybody's else from the Purple Rain film. Then after it was pushed back, WB decided not to release it at all. This is what I had heard. This was from a cat that worked at WB from 1980 to 86. Don't know if this cat was bullshiting or not. Dez's album was sure ready for release. He had a song in the film, where he was featured with his band. I saw Dez later that year opening up for Billy Idol. He got such a great reception. Billy's fans KNEW who Dez was. He was far from an unknown.It's a stone mystery why WB wouldn't have released his album. Dez was the MOST recognized member in P's band. EVERYBODY who was a fan of P at that point knew who Dez was. It would have been more money made for Warner's to release Dez's album. It would have sold well. U would have had folks bought Dez's album that wouldn't have bought A6. I say the majority of people who were P fans dug Dez as well. No way they wouldn't have bought that album. It doesn't make any sense. I know what Dez said went down in his book. I don't have any reason to doubt the man. But it was crazy as hell for WB to not release his album. That's why my mind always drifts back to what that cat who worked for Warners said. True or not, the length that munchkin in heels will go is so laughable ----- You don't know what the munchkin did because you do not know if the story is true. Dez said he could not get a deal. Now you guys are doubting what Dez is saying and making up shit. | |
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