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Thread started 03/21/08 12:58pm

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Z Cult Question?/Dez & The Horror

First, let me start this off with a question? Have any of u ever heard of a Dez song "She Loves To Video?"
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Reply #1 posted 03/21/08 12:58pm

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blackguitaristz said:

First, let me start this off with a question? Have any of u ever heard of a Dez song "She Loves To Video?"



yes, no bassline...LOL
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Reply #2 posted 03/21/08 1:06pm

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JEDINATION said:

blackguitaristz said:

First, let me start this off with a question? Have any of u ever heard of a Dez song "She Loves To Video?"



yes, no bassline...LOL

Haha....And?...Come on with it, Jedi.
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Reply #3 posted 03/21/08 1:11pm

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you've been orgnoted ..
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Reply #4 posted 03/21/08 1:15pm

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JEDINATION said:

you've been orgnoted ..

No, don't orgnote me! Post it. Obviously, I'm already hipped to it or I wouldn't have ran the thread with the title "Dez & The Horror".
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Reply #5 posted 03/21/08 1:20pm

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Let's see what the minions think first...

I actually played em back to back on my show once.... wink
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Reply #6 posted 03/21/08 1:21pm

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JEDINATION said:

blackguitaristz said:

First, let me start this off with a question? Have any of u ever heard of a Dez song "She Loves To Video?"



yes, no bassline...LOL

And what else? What makes it such, in my words, such a "horror"?
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Reply #7 posted 03/21/08 1:27pm

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JEDINATION said:

Let's see what the minions think first...

I actually played em back to back on my show once.... wink

Aaaaah,....wicked. That's some shit that I would have done if I would play P's material live. Which I would never do. Well, that's not entirely true. I've played Bambi live on a few occassions.
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Reply #8 posted 03/21/08 2:32pm

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After rockin' out to Modernaire and Dez's demo of After Hi School, I was sorely let down by She Loves To Video.

The title in itself had way too many possibilities, but there's something I can't quite put my ear to that makes the song so lackluster. confused
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Reply #9 posted 03/21/08 7:54pm

JEDINATION

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JEDINATION said:

you've been orgnoted ..

No, don't orgnote me! Post it. Obviously, I'm already hipped to it or I wouldn't have ran the thread with the title "Dez & The Horror".



Just cause Dez said it, does not make it truth, Dez has spoken on the subject but Prince has NOT officially as far as I know.
So there are "two sides to every story" and I like to hear both sides before making any judgements.
I've got too much respect for both parties to post on speculation, but after reading your post, I laughed and knew what you had to be talking about..
your posts are always very intersting z, keep em up
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Reply #10 posted 03/21/08 8:57pm

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JEDINATION said:

blackguitaristz said:


No, don't orgnote me! Post it. Obviously, I'm already hipped to it or I wouldn't have ran the thread with the title "Dez & The Horror".



Just cause Dez said it, does not make it truth, Dez has spoken on the subject but Prince has NOT officially as far as I know.
So there are "two sides to every story" and I like to hear both sides before making any judgements.
I've got too much respect for both parties to post on speculation, but after reading your post, I laughed and knew what you had to be talking about..
your posts are always very intersting z, keep em up

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Do not take these guys seriously. In their minds P never did anything original. Nevermind that Dez has never made any public comments about beefs with Prince over song credit. He even gets credit for some of the Time stuff.
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Reply #11 posted 03/21/08 11:14pm

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JEDINATION said:

blackguitaristz said:


No, don't orgnote me! Post it. Obviously, I'm already hipped to it or I wouldn't have ran the thread with the title "Dez & The Horror".



Just cause Dez said it, does not make it truth, Dez has spoken on the subject but Prince has NOT officially as far as I know.
So there are "two sides to every story" and I like to hear both sides before making any judgements.
I've got too much respect for both parties to post on speculation, but after reading your post, I laughed and knew what you had to be talking about..
your posts are always very intersting z, keep em up

Haha...thanx Jedi.
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Reply #12 posted 03/22/08 8:47am

JEDINATION

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JEDINATION said:




Just cause Dez said it, does not make it truth, Dez has spoken on the subject but Prince has NOT officially as far as I know.
So there are "two sides to every story" and I like to hear both sides before making any judgements.
I've got too much respect for both parties to post on speculation, but after reading your post, I laughed and knew what you had to be talking about..
your posts are always very intersting z, keep em up

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Do not take these guys seriously. In their minds P never did anything original. Nevermind that Dez has never made any public comments about beefs with Prince over song credit. He even gets credit for some of the Time stuff.



I TOTALLY think Prince did a MILLION things original, I don't think I'd do a 3 hour show a week dedicated to his music if I didn't have BIG LOVE for him...
come on now wink
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Reply #13 posted 03/22/08 10:18am

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blackguitaristz said:

JEDINATION said:




Just cause Dez said it, does not make it truth, Dez has spoken on the subject but Prince has NOT officially as far as I know.
So there are "two sides to every story" and I like to hear both sides before making any judgements.
I've got too much respect for both parties to post on speculation, but after reading your post, I laughed and knew what you had to be talking about..
your posts are always very intersting z, keep em up

Haha...thanx Jedi.



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So either spell it out or be quiet...both of you! fishslap
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Reply #14 posted 03/22/08 11:12am

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JEDINATION said:

blackguitaristz said:


No, don't orgnote me! Post it. Obviously, I'm already hipped to it or I wouldn't have ran the thread with the title "Dez & The Horror".



Just cause Dez said it, does not make it truth, Dez has spoken on the subject but Prince has NOT officially as far as I know.

And u know Jedi, P ISN'T going to speak on it officially. Dez has always come across as very credible to me. At least he has no track record of ever being accussed of lifting something from somebody. If Dez says publicly that something went down, I have no reason to doubt him.
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Reply #15 posted 03/22/08 12:50pm

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blackguitaristz said:

JEDINATION said:




Just cause Dez said it, does not make it truth, Dez has spoken on the subject but Prince has NOT officially as far as I know.

And u know Jedi, P ISN'T going to speak on it officially. Dez has always come across as very credible to me. At least he has no track record of ever being accussed of lifting something from somebody. If Dez says publicly that something went down, I have no reason to doubt him.

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Reply #16 posted 03/22/08 12:51pm

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JEDINATION said:

laurarichardson said:


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Do not take these guys seriously. In their minds P never did anything original. Nevermind that Dez has never made any public comments about beefs with Prince over song credit. He even gets credit for some of the Time stuff.



I TOTALLY think Prince did a MILLION things original, I don't think I'd do a 3 hour show a week dedicated to his music if I didn't have BIG LOVE for him...
come on now wink

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So much negativity about P has an artist on this board. It is hard to tell where people are coming from.
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Reply #17 posted 03/22/08 1:43pm

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GoActive said:

After rockin' out to Modernaire and Dez's demo of After Hi School, I was sorely let down by She Loves To Video.

The title in itself had way too many possibilities, but there's something I can't quite put my ear to that makes the song so lackluster. confused

hmmmmm.....
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Reply #18 posted 03/22/08 5:45pm

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blackguitaristz said:

GoActive said:

After rockin' out to Modernaire and Dez's demo of After Hi School, I was sorely let down by She Loves To Video.

The title in itself had way too many possibilities, but there's something I can't quite put my ear to that makes the song so lackluster. confused

hmmmmm.....

Ah, I see the correlation now. I was scratching my head at JD's first post, but it's clear now. Shame it took me so long to catch on, my doves are crying. lol
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GoActive said:

blackguitaristz said:


hmmmmm.....

Ah, I see the correlation now. I was scratching my head at JD's first post, but it's clear now. Shame it took me so long to catch on, my doves are crying. lol

There u go! I knew u would get it...Do u think the track is similar to When Doves Cry?
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I've stated on this site several times in the past that my all time favorite song by Prince is When Doves Cry. To this day, I think it's a masterpiece. I've written several threads about this song. I've even written threads about the guitar intro to the song....THAT'S how much love and respect I have for this song. It's one of the greatest singles in the history of pop music. So understand, when I read about Dez giving the scenerio of how in 83, LONG before the music to the Purple Rain film was even close to being finished, Dez and his new band had a show out here in L.A. And while P, Lisa and Wendy were out here recording some tracks at Sunset Sound, they went to go see Dez perform. One of the songs Dez did that night was "She Loves To Video". Which Dez claims without a shred of doubt that P lifted from for When Doves Cry. Doesn't matter...WDC is a fucking classic.
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Reply #21 posted 03/22/08 7:14pm

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blackguitaristz said:

GoActive said:


Ah, I see the correlation now. I was scratching my head at JD's first post, but it's clear now. Shame it took me so long to catch on, my doves are crying. lol

There u go! I knew u would get it...Do u think the track is similar to When Doves Cry?

A smidge of similarity is there ... although, I don't believe the casual Prince listener would be able to pick up on it. Heck, I'm devout and it took me a while to put 2 and 2 together! lol

She Loves To Video sounds a lot like Klymaxx's The Men All Pause too!
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Reply #22 posted 03/23/08 10:56am

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GoActive said:

blackguitaristz said:


There u go! I knew u would get it...Do u think the track is similar to When Doves Cry?

A smidge of similarity is there ... although, I don't believe the casual Prince listener would be able to pick up on it. Heck, I'm devout and it took me a while to put 2 and 2 together! lol

She Loves To Video sounds a lot like Klymaxx's The Men All Pause too!

I hear a little of it too but it's NO where near the song When Doves Cry is. Sure, I can see when P was riding in the car from the concert and Lisa and Wendy are talking, P was humming Dez's cut in his head. As soon as he got to a keyboard, he simply turned it out. The biggest thing I believe P took from She Loves To Video is the idea to NOT use a bass guitar track. Initially, P actually recorded a bassline for it. But in the mix, he pulled it out.
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Reply #23 posted 03/23/08 1:19pm

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Just listened to "She Loves To Video" and I'm hard pushed to find any similarity.
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Reply #24 posted 03/23/08 3:27pm

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blackguitaristz said:

I've stated on this site several times in the past that my all time favorite song by Prince is When Doves Cry. To this day, I think it's a masterpiece. I've written several threads about this song. I've even written threads about the guitar intro to the song....THAT'S how much love and respect I have for this song. It's one of the greatest singles in the history of pop music. So understand, when I read about Dez giving the scenerio of how in 83, LONG before the music to the Purple Rain film was even close to being finished, Dez and his new band had a show out here in L.A. And while P, Lisa and Wendy were out here recording some tracks at Sunset Sound, they went to go see Dez perform. One of the songs Dez did that night was "She Loves To Video". Which Dez claims without a shred of doubt that P lifted from for When Doves Cry. Doesn't matter...WDC is a fucking classic.


Thank you. Was that so hard to explain??? poke

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Mong said:

Just listened to "She Loves To Video" and I'm hard pushed to find any similarity.

Yeah, I can dig it. It's not obvious, that's for sure.
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