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Thread started 11/25/07 1:18pm

fcukthepolice

Did ANDRE really write these songs?(BLACKGUITARIST PLEASE CONFIRM)

this is what i heard

controversy
uptown
feel for you; andre said he worked on early version. I presume he came up with the bassline
do me baby; originally derived from eddie hazel and bootsy

also; played bass on, i'm yours and why you wanna?

any thoughts please
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Reply #1 posted 11/25/07 1:48pm

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fcukthepolice said:

this is what i heard

controversy
uptown
feel for you; andre said he worked on early version. I presume he came up with the bassline
do me baby; originally derived from eddie hazel and bootsy

also; played bass on, i'm yours and why you wanna?

any thoughts please

Andre wrote Do Me, Baby. Words and Music. Andre wrote the bassline to Uptown. He wrote the bassline and recorded the bass on I'm Yours. He wrote and recorded the bassline on Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad.
Wasn't hip to him having anything to do with I Feel For You. And definately not Controversy. I never heard that nor was I told that by Cymone. I'm believe I Feel For You and Controversy are all P.
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Reply #2 posted 11/25/07 6:58pm

Ronny

blackguitaristz said:

fcukthepolice said:

this is what i heard

controversy
uptown
feel for you; andre said he worked on early version. I presume he came up with the bassline
do me baby; originally derived from eddie hazel and bootsy

also; played bass on, i'm yours and why you wanna?

any thoughts please

Andre wrote Do Me, Baby. Words and Music. Andre wrote the bassline to Uptown. He wrote the bassline and recorded the bass on I'm Yours. He wrote and recorded the bassline on Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad.
Wasn't hip to him having anything to do with I Feel For You. And definately not Controversy. I never heard that nor was I told that by Cymone. I'm believe I Feel For You and Controversy are all P.



I have heard this for years...that AC wrote "do me baby' but I still can't believe it. P champions that song...I mean, he's done it over the yeas on nearly every tour which obviously means he considers it a jewel in his crown. He did in on Oprah! I can't believce he'd do that one all the while never having written it. I thinmk that is the reason why you never hear him do the Little Red guitar solo...b/c he did not play it. The man has some scruples!
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Reply #3 posted 11/25/07 7:15pm

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Ronny said:

blackguitaristz said:


Andre wrote Do Me, Baby. Words and Music. Andre wrote the bassline to Uptown. He wrote the bassline and recorded the bass on I'm Yours. He wrote and recorded the bassline on Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad.
Wasn't hip to him having anything to do with I Feel For You. And definately not Controversy. I never heard that nor was I told that by Cymone. I'm believe I Feel For You and Controversy are all P.



I have heard this for years...that AC wrote "do me baby' but I still can't believe it. P champions that song...I mean, he's done it over the yeas on nearly every tour which obviously means he considers it a jewel in his crown. He did in on Oprah! I can't believce he'd do that one all the while never having written it. I thinmk that is the reason why you never hear him do the Little Red guitar solo...b/c he did not play it. The man has some scruples!

I can dig it that u believe P wrote it. Most of the folks on this site, I believe, think P wrote it. If P went on t.v. and said himself that he didn't write it, folks STILL wouldn't believe it. That said, he plays it a lot cuz he likes the song and it's always been a crowd fave. So u will hear P perform this song. Doesn't mean that he wrote it. p had been begging Cymone to stay in the band. Offereing him a lot more money, etc. Dre was still bouncing. So as soon as Dre left, P cut Do Me, Baby. And then told Dre "So sue me."
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Reply #4 posted 11/25/07 7:59pm

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blackguitaristz said:

Ronny said:




I have heard this for years...that AC wrote "do me baby' but I still can't believe it. P champions that song...I mean, he's done it over the yeas on nearly every tour which obviously means he considers it a jewel in his crown. He did in on Oprah! I can't believce he'd do that one all the while never having written it. I thinmk that is the reason why you never hear him do the Little Red guitar solo...b/c he did not play it. The man has some scruples!

I can dig it that u believe P wrote it. Most of the folks on this site, I believe, think P wrote it. If P went on t.v. and said himself that he didn't write it, folks STILL wouldn't believe it. That said, he plays it a lot cuz he likes the song and it's always been a crowd fave. So u will hear P perform this song. Doesn't mean that he wrote it. p had been begging Cymone to stay in the band. Offereing him a lot more money, etc. Dre was still bouncing. So as soon as Dre left, P cut Do Me, Baby. And then told Dre "So sue me."


So Prince didn't write that song? I am one who thought that he did. confuse
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Reply #5 posted 11/26/07 2:32am

SoulAlive

Ronny said:

blackguitaristz said:


Andre wrote Do Me, Baby. Words and Music. Andre wrote the bassline to Uptown. He wrote the bassline and recorded the bass on I'm Yours. He wrote and recorded the bassline on Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad.
Wasn't hip to him having anything to do with I Feel For You. And definately not Controversy. I never heard that nor was I told that by Cymone. I'm believe I Feel For You and Controversy are all P.



I have heard this for years...that AC wrote "do me baby' but I still can't believe it. P champions that song...I mean, he's done it over the yeas on nearly every tour which obviously means he considers it a jewel in his crown. He did in on Oprah! I can't believce he'd do that one all the while never having written it. I thinmk that is the reason why you never hear him do the Little Red guitar solo...b/c he did not play it. The man has some scruples!


Pepe Willie confirms that Andre did indeed write "Do Me Baby".In 1977,when he hired Prince and Andre to record demos with his band 94 East,he saw Andre playing the song on a piano.Then in 1981,he heard the song on Prince's 'Controversy' album.He recognized the melody from Andre's 1977 composition.It's possible that Andre came up with the music/melody,while Prince wrote most or all of the lyrics.
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Reply #6 posted 11/26/07 3:38am

fcukthepolice

SoulAlive said:

Ronny said:




I have heard this for years...that AC wrote "do me baby' but I still can't believe it. P champions that song...I mean, he's done it over the yeas on nearly every tour which obviously means he considers it a jewel in his crown. He did in on Oprah! I can't believce he'd do that one all the while never having written it. I thinmk that is the reason why you never hear him do the Little Red guitar solo...b/c he did not play it. The man has some scruples!


Pepe Willie confirms that Andre did indeed write "Do Me Baby".In 1977,when he hired Prince and Andre to record demos with his band 94 East,he saw Andre playing the song on a piano.Then in 1981,he heard the song on Prince's 'Controversy' album.He recognized the melody from Andre's 1977 composition.It's possible that Andre came up with the music/melody,while Prince wrote most or all of the lyrics.


Eddie hazel came up with that or maybe bootsy. It's from a song eddie and bootsy wrote on eddie's album.



Damn prince has no morals whatsoever. The more i hear about him the less i like him.

Blackguitarist; did Prince ever apologise? How can he still perform a song he didn't write yet claimed to? Was andre impressed with how Prince performed/produced it though biggrin
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Reply #7 posted 11/26/07 3:44am

SoulAlive

fcukthepolice said:

SoulAlive said:



Pepe Willie confirms that Andre did indeed write "Do Me Baby".In 1977,when he hired Prince and Andre to record demos with his band 94 East,he saw Andre playing the song on a piano.Then in 1981,he heard the song on Prince's 'Controversy' album.He recognized the melody from Andre's 1977 composition.It's possible that Andre came up with the music/melody,while Prince wrote most or all of the lyrics.


Eddie hazel came up with that or maybe bootsy. It's from a song eddie and bootsy wrote on eddie's album.



Damn prince has no morals whatsoever. The more i hear about him the less i like him.

Blackguitarist; did Prince ever apologise? How can he still perform a song he didn't write yet claimed to? Was andre impressed with how Prince performed/produced it though biggrin



In 1985,Prince gave Andre a hot song called "The Dance Electric".Maybe this was his way of "apologizing"? hmmm
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Reply #8 posted 11/26/07 3:47am

fcukthepolice

SoulAlive said:

fcukthepolice said:



Eddie hazel came up with that or maybe bootsy. It's from a song eddie and bootsy wrote on eddie's album.



Damn prince has no morals whatsoever. The more i hear about him the less i like him.

Blackguitarist; did Prince ever apologise? How can he still perform a song he didn't write yet claimed to? Was andre impressed with how Prince performed/produced it though biggrin



In 1985,Prince gave Andre a hot song called "The Dance Electric".Maybe this was his way of "apologizing"? hmmm


yeah maybe?

where's the integrity though? I wouldn;t even want to claim a song i didn;t write; then perform it for 25 years as my own
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Reply #9 posted 11/26/07 9:18am

kaptainkrunk

yall bitches lieing somewhere cuz morris day said he wrote uptown in exchange for his record deal i mean andre cymone claim he wrote a few shits back in the early days none of which prince is famous for and he never sued or nothing so fuck anre if it meant that much he would do like prince and fight 4 his rights
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Reply #10 posted 11/26/07 10:26am

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I know what you are trying to say. If Andre wrote why did he not sue over this.
Why talk about something you can't prove? Then you have people on this board screming he stole the music from Eddie Hazel.

Did Prince still the music from Eddie or did Andre?

If Andre took a song in exchange for "Do Me Baby" does that make the whole thing can of over?


You don't hear of Morris Day bitching about " Party Up"
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kaptainkrunk said:

yall bitches lieing somewhere cuz morris day said he wrote uptown in exchange for his record deal i mean andre cymone claim he wrote a few shits back in the early days none of which prince is famous for and he never sued or nothing so fuck anre if it meant that much he would do like prince and fight 4 his rights
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Reply #11 posted 11/26/07 12:05pm

fcukthepolice

laurarichardson said:

I know what you are trying to say. If Andre wrote why did he not sue over this.
Why talk about something you can't prove? Then you have people on this board screming he stole the music from Eddie Hazel.

Did Prince still the music from Eddie or did Andre?


If Andre took a song in exchange for "Do Me Baby" does that make the whole thing can of over?


You don't hear of Morris Day bitching about " Party Up"
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kaptainkrunk said:

yall bitches lieing somewhere cuz morris day said he wrote uptown in exchange for his record deal i mean andre cymone claim he wrote a few shits back in the early days none of which prince is famous for and he never sued or nothing so fuck anre if it meant that much he would do like prince and fight 4 his rights


This is a messgae board TO TALK.

IT IS EDDIE'S MUSIC; FACT! that was established long ago.

Even a genius asks questions. He who doesn't ask questions is left in the dark.
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Reply #12 posted 11/26/07 7:00pm

Ronny

blackguitaristz said:[quote]

Ronny said:


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I can dig it that u believe P wrote it. Most of the folks on this site, I believe, think P wrote it. If P went on t.v. and said himself that he didn't write it, folks STILL wouldn't believe it. That said, he plays it a lot cuz he likes the song and it's always been a crowd fave. So u will hear P perform this song. Doesn't mean that he wrote it. p had been begging Cymone to stay in the band. Offereing him a lot more money, etc. Dre was still bouncing. So as soon as Dre left, P cut Do Me, Baby. And then told Dre "So sue me."



OK, I guess I cAn believe it. P was pretty strong minded to get to the top. I mean, All that I heard about how he ripped off Rick james blatantly is enough to convince me that this guy was in overdrivec to get to the top. Anyhow, tell us more...why would P dare Andre to sue him? More than that, how could he do that to andre after getting so much help from he and his family?

Do P and Andre stay in touch?
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Reply #13 posted 11/26/07 7:47pm

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kaptainkrunk said:

yall bitches lieing somewhere cuz morris day said he wrote uptown in exchange for his record deal i mean andre cymone claim he wrote a few shits back in the early days none of which prince is famous for and he never sued or nothing so fuck anre if it meant that much he would do like prince and fight 4 his rights

Uh kaptainkrunk, next time u decide to call folks names like bitches, dig, PLEASE get your info straight. Morris didn't say he wrote "Uptown". He said he wrote "Party Up" and P offered to buy the song or give him a record deal.
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Reply #14 posted 11/26/07 7:59pm

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Ronny said:[quote]

blackguitaristz said:

Ronny said:


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I can dig it that u believe P wrote it. Most of the folks on this site, I believe, think P wrote it. If P went on t.v. and said himself that he didn't write it, folks STILL wouldn't believe it. That said, he plays it a lot cuz he likes the song and it's always been a crowd fave. So u will hear P perform this song. Doesn't mean that he wrote it. p had been begging Cymone to stay in the band. Offereing him a lot more money, etc. Dre was still bouncing. So as soon as Dre left, P cut Do Me, Baby. And then told Dre "So sue me."



OK, I guess I cAn believe it. P was pretty strong minded to get to the top. I mean, All that I heard about how he ripped off Rick james blatantly is enough to convince me that this guy was in overdrivec to get to the top. Anyhow, tell us more...why would P dare Andre to sue him? More than that, how could he do that to andre after getting so much help from he and his family?

P dared Cymone probably cuz he knew that Andre didn't have the bread that he was going to need to go up against P's lawyers. I always said that I thought it was extra fucked up cuz Andre's mom not only took P in but she kept P from being out on the street.
Do P and Andre stay in touch?

I never asked Dre if he kept in touch with P. I was always careful on what I asked Dre when it came to shit like that. I didn't want to pry. All of the stuff Dre and Morris told me was all on their own. But the impression I got from Dre was that they did still talk from time to time.
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Reply #15 posted 11/27/07 12:21am

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wow great thread!

blkgurtst gets props for being in the know! cool
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Reply #16 posted 11/27/07 3:28am

fcukthepolice

Christopher said:

wow great thread!

blkgurtst gets props for being in the know! cool


co-sign biggrin
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Reply #17 posted 11/27/07 8:56am

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First if it is Eddie Hazel's music and if Prince stole it from Andre.Then I guess Andre stole the music from Eddie.


It would be nice sometimes if you guys dug a little deeper instead of sitting around dreaming up your conspiracies that Prince is Satan personified.

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fcukthepolice said:

laurarichardson said:

I know what you are trying to say. If Andre wrote why did he not sue over this.
Why talk about something you can't prove? Then you have people on this board screming he stole the music from Eddie Hazel.

Did Prince still the music from Eddie or did Andre?


If Andre took a song in exchange for "Do Me Baby" does that make the whole thing can of over?


You don't hear of Morris Day bitching about " Party Up"
-----




This is a messgae board TO TALK.

IT IS EDDIE'S MUSIC; FACT! that was established long ago.

Even a genius asks questions. He who doesn't ask questions is left in the dark.
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Reply #18 posted 11/27/07 9:24am

sexxydancer

If Andre could write songz like those,he'd still b relevant 2day.I seriously doubt that. lol
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Reply #19 posted 11/27/07 2:59pm

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kaptainkrunk said:

yall bitches lieing somewhere cuz morris day said he wrote uptown in exchange for his record deal i mean andre cymone claim he wrote a few shits back in the early days none of which prince is famous for and he never sued or nothing so fuck anre if it meant that much he would do like prince and fight 4 his rights

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Reply #20 posted 11/27/07 7:06pm

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SoulAlive said:

fcukthepolice said:



Eddie hazel came up with that or maybe bootsy. It's from a song eddie and bootsy wrote on eddie's album.



Damn prince has no morals whatsoever. The more i hear about him the less i like him.

Blackguitarist; did Prince ever apologise? How can he still perform a song he didn't write yet claimed to? Was andre impressed with how Prince performed/produced it though biggrin



In 1985,Prince gave Andre a hot song called "The Dance Electric".Maybe this was his way of "apologizing"? hmmm



That was my favorite Andre Cymone song and it was the reason I bought the tape.

Whatever happened to Andre?
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Reply #21 posted 11/28/07 3:24am

fcukthepolice

Alasseon said:

SoulAlive said:




In 1985,Prince gave Andre a hot song called "The Dance Electric".Maybe this was his way of "apologizing"? hmmm



That was my favorite Andre Cymone song and it was the reason I bought the tape.

Whatever happened to Andre?



I think he's dead?
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Reply #22 posted 11/28/07 8:44am

Graycap23

lol.....Andre could not sue Prince cause he got the music from Hazel. Prince knew that and so did Andre.
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Reply #23 posted 11/28/07 12:30pm

fcukthepolice

Graycap23 said:

lol.....Andre could not sue Prince cause he got the music from Hazel. Prince knew that and so did Andre.


yes indeed
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Reply #24 posted 11/29/07 10:55pm

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Graycap23 said:

lol.....Andre could not sue Prince cause he got the music from Hazel. Prince knew that and so did Andre.

Hella point.
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