fcukthepolice said: Jeffiner said: Personally, I wouldn't judge ANYONE unless I had actually, at least MET them! and spoken to them once. You do not KNOW that Prince is not a nice person. You've read all the literature etc. but it seems to me that a lot of the people in the list above all have some axe to grind, or grudge against Prince. For instance, I read on another post here (from someone's experience first hand) that Michael B is definitely NOT a nice person, and a bit of a low life. Sinead O'Connor (I love some of her music) but she's allegedly completely nuts!! Nona Gaye - isn't she unfortunately out of her head on drugs, or was? I'm sure in anyone's life if you asked the many people they'd come into contact with along the way, there would be people who would say that you're not a nice person. And there would then be others who would say that you were a very nice person. It's all subjective and has to be put into perspective. We're only hearing one side of the story after all. I'm sure Prince is stern and a hard task master, but what else would you expect? Also, he's a very shy person (still) although he seems to have improved in that respect over the last few years. This can often come across as being 'aloof' or 'unfriendly', when it may just be lack of social skills and feeling uncomfortable. I think people underestimate how shy he actually is! [Edited 11/27/07 14:00pm] wrong. I personally know people who have met him and dealt with him stop worshipping prince Nona gaye said it wa sthree years of mind games; she was not a complete addict at the time. Sinead o connor is far from nuts. She is very courageous and strong; plus she has always been totally honest. So his engineer who recorded him for 2 years is wrong? He said Prince treated people like shit. Mayte's minders said he totalled controlled her. Carmen electra's friends said the same thing. When MULTIPLE independant witnesses say the exact same thing there is pattern that emerges and only a blind fanatic would deny it. Wendy said that she was sometimes scared of Prince due to his temper. The interview is somewhere on the net. She has no axe to grind and as always been careful what she is saying about him and never really criticised him even though he dropped her and lisa like a hot potato. I will say no more now. That's it. Let's focus on the art becuase that is beautiful unlike the artist. How can beautiful music and art come from someone who has no heart and isn't beautiful in some way? | |
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fcukthepolice said:[quote] Christopher said: fcukthepolice said: The fanatics won't accept that Prince is a bad person. i dont think hes a "bad person" at all. but its true sum ppl are maybe focusing on the side of him thats this little cosmic spiritual man whos sensitive and passionate.which he is.....but hes human just like anyone else and his not so nice side is documented in many books and ppl's personal accounts.[/quote] Please wake up and smell the bs. We are all human. I have never treated anyone like has prince has done. I would never steal a friend's song and say it was mine. I would never tell my gf/wife NOT to phone me. I would never never tell a women what to wear and do. etc etc. Out of all the artists i know alot about he is one of the worse people. He blatently ignores those that try to speak to him; e.gs elton john, stevie ray vaughan, boy george, pharrell and many normal no celebs He's only passionate about himself and god. I know people who have met him. He is not nice! Just as MANY people who worked/ been involved with him have said including andre cymone, w &l, his engineers, michael b, morris day, jesse johnson, mika, sinead o connor, nona gaye, ex managers, bodyguards, publicist and so on. I am not hating on Prince; just being honest. I have read evry bio, interview and litrature on him as well as knowing people who have met him. The picture painted is not pretty. I respect people more for who they are than how successful or talented they are. My personal philsophy is: how one treats waitstaff, housekeepers, service people, etc. says more about one's character, than any other interactions. Politeness and civility should dictate behavior. I read on one website, the restaurant staff weren't allowed to make "eye contact" with Prince, when he ate there. If I owned the place, I'd make sure of it, by banning him. He could eat someplace else, where abuse of employees is tolerated. sp chk edit [Edited 11/28/07 19:45pm] | |
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xplnyrslf said: fcukthepolice said: i dont think hes a "bad person" at all. but its true sum ppl are maybe focusing on the side of him thats this little cosmic spiritual man whos sensitive and passionate.which he is.....but hes human just like anyone else and his not so nice side is documented in many books and ppl's personal accounts.[/quote] Please wake up and smell the bs. We are all human. I have never treated anyone like has prince has done. I would never steal a friend's song and say it was mine. I would never tell my gf/wife NOT to phone me. I would never never tell a women what to wear and do. etc etc. Out of all the artists i know alot about he is one of the worse people. He blatently ignores those that try to speak to him; e.gs elton john, stevie ray vaughan, boy george, pharrell and many normal no celebs He's only passionate about himself and god. I know people who have met him. He is not nice! Just as MANY people who worked/ been involved with him have said including andre cymone, w &l, his engineers, michael b, morris day, jesse johnson, mika, sinead o connor, nona gaye, ex managers, bodyguards, publicist and so on. I am not hating on Prince; just being honest. I have read evry bio, interview and litrature on him as well as knowing people who have met him. The picture painted is not pretty. I respect people more for who they are than how successful or talented they are. My personal philsophy is: how one treats waitstaff, housekeepers, service people, etc. says more about one's character, than any other interactions. Politeness and civility should dictate behavior. I read on one website, the resturant staff weren't allowed to make "eye contact" with Prince, when he ate there. If I owned the place, I'd make sure of it, by banning him. He could eat someplace else, where abuse of employees is tolerated. sp chk edit [Edited 11/28/07 8:13am] Exactly; manners cost nothing. Shyness is no excuse for rudeness | |
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1KissAtATyme said: L4OATheOriginal said: if memory serves me correct, it's in that interview with scary spice Thanks! ...I wish all those videos on Youtube...and alike sites were still up..that way I could try and check it out ur welcome ..but u have 2 seen my reaction 2 that answer when i first heard it man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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prodigalfan said: L4OATheOriginal said: yeah that interview with bryant gumbel proved that [Edited 11/27/07 7:56am] cause there is no way I could have sat there straight faced and listen to him lie like that. My face would have cracked. Actually I think her faced did crumble a bit and then she caught herself. {{poor Mayte}} I hope she is happy today. i don't think any man or woman could sit through that interview and have a straight face no matter how much u may love that person. do ya think she used 2 curse him out in spanish or german? and prince would have had that xpression 4 the kiss video when she did man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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fcukthepolice said: xplnyrslf said: My personal philsophy is: how one treats waitstaff, housekeepers, service people, etc. says more about one's character, than any other interactions. Politeness and civility should dictate behavior. I read on one website, the resturant staff weren't allowed to make "eye contact" with Prince, when he ate there. If I owned the place, I'd make sure of it, by banning him. He could eat someplace else, where abuse of employees is tolerated. sp chk edit [Edited 11/28/07 8:13am] Exactly; manners cost nothing. Shyness is no excuse for rudeness That's funny, I read a post recently from a couple who met him as he walked through the adjoining bar to the aftershow in London. He stopped and chatted to the bar staff, and to the couple. Apparently he was really friendly and down to earth! Maybe he behaves differently when he's in the UK????? Stories, stories.... | |
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Oh No! Wait! I also read an account from a former employee at Glam Slam, He was always really friendly and nice..... and that's in the USA isn't it... | |
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fcukthepolice said: xplnyrslf said: My personal philsophy is: how one treats waitstaff, housekeepers, service people, etc. says more about one's character, than any other interactions. Politeness and civility should dictate behavior. I read on one website, the resturant staff weren't allowed to make "eye contact" with Prince, when he ate there. If I owned the place, I'd make sure of it, by banning him. He could eat someplace else, where abuse of employees is tolerated. sp chk edit [Edited 11/28/07 8:13am] Exactly; manners cost nothing. Shyness is no excuse for rudeness If it really is shyness, then it isn't rudeness, right? It would only appear that way. Anyway, the eye contact one isn't so bad. It's kind of funny and weird but it's not rude. Especially, if that's the only way he felt he could be comfortable while eating. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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Imago said: I really hate this thread.
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Jeffiner said: fcukthepolice said: Exactly; manners cost nothing. Shyness is no excuse for rudeness That's funny, I read a post recently from a couple who met him as he walked through the adjoining bar to the aftershow in London. He stopped and chatted to the bar staff, and to the couple. Apparently he was really friendly and down to earth! Maybe he behaves differently when he's in the UK????? Stories, stories.... He changed when larry told him the truth; so he says Ted bundy was a very charming, smart and articulate man; so what? Even serial killers can occasionally be nice when it suits them | |
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anon said: fcukthepolice said: Exactly; manners cost nothing. Shyness is no excuse for rudeness If it really is shyness, then it isn't rudeness, right? It would only appear that way. Anyway, the eye contact one isn't so bad. It's kind of funny and weird but it's not rude. Especially, if that's the only way he felt he could be comfortable while eating. telling your minders TO TELL all the staff NOT to look at you is arrogant, rude and down right obsurd. Obviously nobody wants strangers staring at them Prince once fired a pregnant lady at paisley park for falling asleep | |
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fcukthepolice said: anon said: If it really is shyness, then it isn't rudeness, right? It would only appear that way. Anyway, the eye contact one isn't so bad. It's kind of funny and weird but it's not rude. Especially, if that's the only way he felt he could be comfortable while eating. telling your minders TO TELL all the staff NOT to look at you is arrogant, rude and down right obsurd. Obviously nobody wants strangers staring at them Prince once fired a pregnant lady at paisley park for falling asleep But in the case of not having someone watch you eat, wouldn't motive determine if it was actually arrogance? If it's because you're shy, then it's because you're shy. No one was harmed in that one. I don't know any of the Prince stories, outside of what is posted here, so I couldn't say, and I haven't seen the interviews mentioned and don't know the details of the pregnant woman. If it's as simple as that, it would be wrong, though. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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Imago said: I really hate this thread.
Yes. I do too. surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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fcukthepolice said: Jeffiner said: That's funny, I read a post recently from a couple who met him as he walked through the adjoining bar to the aftershow in London. He stopped and chatted to the bar staff, and to the couple. Apparently he was really friendly and down to earth! Maybe he behaves differently when he's in the UK????? Stories, stories.... He changed when larry told him the truth; so he says SO, he's nice now right? Ted bundy was a very charming, smart and articulate man; so what? Even serial killers can occasionally be nice when it suits them OH COME ON!! Now you're comparing Prince to a serial killer | |
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Imago said: I really hate this thread.
HATER! Why are you here?? If you don't love Prince, you need to go back to GD, and discuss.....WHATEVA you discuss..... And if you say anything bad about my idol, your ass is getting kicked to the curb....right back to the forum you came from!!! You're nothing to me! Pfftt! (did I spell that right, you know I'm a stickler) | |
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fcukthepolice said: Jeffiner said: Personally, I wouldn't judge ANYONE unless I had actually, at least MET them! and spoken to them once. You do not KNOW that Prince is not a nice person. You've read all the literature etc. but it seems to me that a lot of the people in the list above all have some axe to grind, or grudge against Prince. For instance, I read on another post here (from someone's experience first hand) that Michael B is definitely NOT a nice person, and a bit of a low life. Sinead O'Connor (I love some of her music) but she's allegedly completely nuts!! Nona Gaye - isn't she unfortunately out of her head on drugs, or was? I'm sure in anyone's life if you asked the many people they'd come into contact with along the way, there would be people who would say that you're not a nice person. And there would then be others who would say that you were a very nice person. It's all subjective and has to be put into perspective. We're only hearing one side of the story after all. I'm sure Prince is stern and a hard task master, but what else would you expect? Also, he's a very shy person (still) although he seems to have improved in that respect over the last few years. This can often come across as being 'aloof' or 'unfriendly', when it may just be lack of social skills and feeling uncomfortable. I think people underestimate how shy he actually is! [Edited 11/27/07 14:00pm] wrong. I personally know people who have met him and dealt with him stop worshipping prince Nona gaye said it wa sthree years of mind games; she was not a complete addict at the time. Sinead o connor is far from nuts. She is very courageous and strong; plus she has always been totally honest. So his engineer who recorded him for 2 years is wrong? He said Prince treated people like shit. Mayte's minders said he totalled controlled her. Carmen electra's friends said the same thing. When MULTIPLE independant witnesses say the exact same thing there is pattern that emerges and only a blind fanatic would deny it. Wendy said that she was sometimes scared of Prince due to his temper. The interview is somewhere on the net. She has no axe to grind and as always been careful what she is saying about him and never really criticised him even though he dropped her and lisa like a hot potato. I will say no more now. That's it. Let's focus on the art becuase that is beautiful unlike the artist. I will say no more now. That's it. Let's focus on the art becuase that is beautiful unlike the artist.[/quote] Yes that is one of the best things that u have said! Focus on the positive. U want to know the secreat of love and happiness? Love GOD with all your heart, mind soul and strength. And love your neighboor as yourself. | |
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prodigalfan said: L4OATheOriginal said: yeah that interview with bryant gumbel proved that [Edited 11/27/07 7:56am] cause there is no way I could have sat there straight faced and listen to him lie like that. My face would have cracked. Actually I think her faced did crumble a bit and then she caught herself. {{poor Mayte}} I hope she is happy today. Maybe Im in left field somewhere but what did Prince say in that interview that was so hurtful to Mayte? I missed that 1. U want to know the secreat of love and happiness? Love GOD with all your heart, mind soul and strength. And love your neighboor as yourself. | |
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this thread is full of passion and emotion and it started with such a simple old played out subject..... bravo Imago To Sir, with Love | |
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fcukthepolice said: anon said: If it really is shyness, then it isn't rudeness, right? It would only appear that way. Anyway, the eye contact one isn't so bad. It's kind of funny and weird but it's not rude. Especially, if that's the only way he felt he could be comfortable while eating. telling your minders TO TELL all the staff NOT to look at you is arrogant, rude and down right obsurd. Obviously nobody wants strangers staring at them Prince once fired a pregnant lady at paisley park for falling asleep Hmmm.... Im thinking I would have to see the WHOLE story on the pregnant woman because I've been pregnant b4 and never fell asleep on the job. Yes, u are more tierd when ur pregnant but u know ur on the job..and get it done "GET R' DUN!". I would look down on Prince if he fired or yelled at her for putting her swollen feet up or had to go to the bathroom many times b/c the baby pressing against her bladder. But if she is falling asleep on the job?? Um, thats reason to fire ANYBODY from a job they are not doing. Now if she was diebetic and pregnant and didnt get insulin or enough sugar...okay. But if she's just pregnant...c'mon..woman have had babies in the fields still workin the crops until there water broke. All Im sayin is with that 1 I would have to hear the entire story. U want to know the secreat of love and happiness? Love GOD with all your heart, mind soul and strength. And love your neighboor as yourself. | |
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PEJ said: this thread is full of passion and emotion and it started with such a simple old played out subject..... bravo Imago
You're so bad | |
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xplnyrslf said: Imago said: I really hate this thread.
HATER! Why are you here?? If you don't love Prince, you need to go back to GD, and discuss.....WHATEVA you discuss..... And if you say anything bad about my idol, your ass is getting kicked to the curb....right back to the forum you came from!!! You're nothing to me! Pfftt! (did I spell that right, you know I'm a stickler) Well, it all started with flowerz's post about thinking Tommy's worth hooking up with. That fascinated me beyond belief, and I kept scratching my head and saying to myself, "Is she seeing the same person I see when we look at his pictures? . You know its like when we all agree that the color blue is blue. But is what I see as blue, REALLY what you see as blue? Flowers may be looking at my version of Tyson Beckford, while I'm seeing Yoda covered in tattoos. " Its like girls who want to fuck Prince. I basically see Mrs Huckstable(sp?) from the Cosby show, but with big deformed hands. There's just no accounting for tastes. It's just all too shocking. | |
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Imago said: xplnyrslf said: HATER! Why are you here?? If you don't love Prince, you need to go back to GD, and discuss.....WHATEVA you discuss..... And if you say anything bad about my idol, your ass is getting kicked to the curb....right back to the forum you came from!!! You're nothing to me! Pfftt! (did I spell that right, you know I'm a stickler) Well, it all started with flowerz's post about thinking Tommy's worth hooking up with. That fascinated me beyond belief, and I kept scratching my head and saying to myself, "Is she seeing the same person I see when we look at his pictures? . You know its like when we all agree that the color blue is blue. But is what I see as blue, REALLY what you see as blue? Flowers may be looking at my version of Tyson Beckford, while I'm seeing Yoda covered in tattoos. " Its like girls who want to fuck Prince. I basically see Mrs Huckstable(sp?) from the Cosby show, but with big deformed hands. There's just no accounting for tastes. It's just all too shocking. You're on the entire wrong track. Hint: bank account. If Tommy Lee were a janitor at the local factory,..... or Prince, a chimney sweep, ..... sp chk chimney with "ey" [Edited 11/28/07 19:39pm] | |
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fcukthepolice said: xplnyrslf said: My personal philsophy is: how one treats waitstaff, housekeepers, service people, etc. says more about one's character, than any other interactions. Politeness and civility should dictate behavior. I read on one website, the resturant staff weren't allowed to make "eye contact" with Prince, when he ate there. If I owned the place, I'd make sure of it, by banning him. He could eat someplace else, where abuse of employees is tolerated. sp chk edit [Edited 11/28/07 8:13am] Exactly; manners cost nothing. Shyness is no excuse for rudeness Word! "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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1KissAtATyme said: prodigalfan said: cause there is no way I could have sat there straight faced and listen to him lie like that. My face would have cracked. Actually I think her faced did crumble a bit and then she caught herself. {{poor Mayte}} I hope she is happy today. Maybe Im in left field somewhere but what did Prince say in that interview that was so hurtful to Mayte? I missed that 1. One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned from his own mouth answered in an indirect way that the baby was fine... when in fact the baby was dead. On the other hand Mayte around that same time did actually acknowledge that their son was gone; and that they missed their little boy and someday welcome more children. (can't remember the exact wording). So when One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned was gave interviews to Oprah, and in particular the Gumble interview... (which I was actually referring to), One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned did all the talking/lying while Mayte sat there with a smile frozen on her face... when her heart had to be breaking. I don't fault One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned, but I do have deep sympathy for Mayte in that situation. Why do you think having sympathy for Mayte mean automatic criticism for One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned? "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: fcukthepolice said: Exactly; manners cost nothing. Shyness is no excuse for rudeness Word! The website I was referring to, is Bitterwaitress. This was about a year ago, and the site has changed. The woman posting, was disgusted. The food had to be handed to a bodyguard, who then put it on the table, besides the "no eye contact" rule. I trust the judgement of the waitstaff, who have a sense of when they're treated poorly. It's easy for some with power, fame, $$$, to disregard others. Leona Helmsley comes to mind as an extreme example. "It's the 'little people' who pay taxes"! | |
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xplnyrslf said: prodigalfan said: Word! The website I was referring to, is Bitterwaitress. This was about a year ago, and the site has changed. The woman posting, was disgusted. The food had to be handed to a bodyguard, who then put it on the table, besides the "no eye contact" rule. I trust the judgement of the waitstaff, who have a sense of when they're treated poorly. It's easy for some with power, fame, $$$, to disregard others. Leona Helmsley comes to mind as an extreme example. "It's the 'little people' who pay taxes"! Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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Imago said: xplnyrslf said: HATER! Why are you here?? If you don't love Prince, you need to go back to GD, and discuss.....WHATEVA you discuss..... And if you say anything bad about my idol, your ass is getting kicked to the curb....right back to the forum you came from!!! You're nothing to me! Pfftt! (did I spell that right, you know I'm a stickler) Well, it all started with flowerz's post about thinking Tommy's worth hooking up with. That fascinated me beyond belief, and I kept scratching my head and saying to myself, "Is she seeing the same person I see when we look at his pictures? . You know its like when we all agree that the color blue is blue. But is what I see as blue, REALLY what you see as blue? Flowers may be looking at my version of Tyson Beckford, while I'm seeing Yoda covered in tattoos. " Its like girls who want to fuck Prince. I basically see Mrs Huckstable(sp?) from the Cosby show, but with big deformed hands. There's just no accounting for tastes. It's just all too shocking. it's my fault lol.. | |
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prodigalfan said: 1KissAtATyme said: Maybe Im in left field somewhere but what did Prince say in that interview that was so hurtful to Mayte? I missed that 1. One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned from his own mouth answered in an indirect way that the baby was fine... when in fact the baby was dead. On the other hand Mayte around that same time did actually acknowledge that their son was gone; and that they missed their little boy and someday welcome more children. (can't remember the exact wording). So when One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned was gave interviews to Oprah, and in particular the Gumble interview... (which I was actually referring to), One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned did all the talking/lying while Mayte sat there with a smile frozen on her face... when her heart had to be breaking. I don't fault One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned, but I do have deep sympathy for Mayte in that situation. Why do you think having sympathy for Mayte mean automatic criticism for One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned? Mayte has said in an interview since, that they were both in denial. The Oprah i/v was only a week after the baby's death, (which Mayte enouraged Prince to continue with) and P had convinced himself that the baby's soul would come back etc. He didn't want to talk about it. I wish everyone would be more understanding on this subject. As I've said in another post, hopefully none of us have experienced anything like this, because who knows how we would react in such heartbreaking and devasting circumstances. There can't be anything much worse. Rant over | |
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1KissAtATyme said: fcukthepolice said: telling your minders TO TELL all the staff NOT to look at you is arrogant, rude and down right obsurd. Obviously nobody wants strangers staring at them Prince once fired a pregnant lady at paisley park for falling asleep Hmmm.... Im thinking I would have to see the WHOLE story on the pregnant woman because I've been pregnant b4 and never fell asleep on the job. Yes, u are more tierd when ur pregnant but u know ur on the job..and get it done "GET R' DUN!". I would look down on Prince if he fired or yelled at her for putting her swollen feet up or had to go to the bathroom many times b/c the baby pressing against her bladder. But if she is falling asleep on the job?? Um, thats reason to fire ANYBODY from a job they are not doing. Now if she was diebetic and pregnant and didnt get insulin or enough sugar...okay. But if she's just pregnant...c'mon..woman have had babies in the fields still workin the crops until there water broke. All Im sayin is with that 1 I would have to hear the entire story. Yeah, say she was 'security' or something... that's not acceptable.... just saying.... don't know the circumstances! BTW Help! I need some back up in this place..... | |
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