VanityFair said: Hang on...
I just noticed this topic to be 3 pages long! Yea- I think Prince would never let anyone rival him, and so he downplayed everybody else around him. She did need guidance and if she had been given more of it, things could have been so different. BUT THERE IS TODAY. AND SHE'S DOING IT TODAY. SO LETS SUPPORT HER AND SPREAD THE WORD. agreed "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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[deleted double post] [Edited 12/16/07 21:47pm] "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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kaptainkrunk said: its ironic how everybody complain about how prince was and how he treated people when if prince was 2 come 2 any of u and say move in 2 paisley park and let me produce u u would leave like no 2morrow princ is nod ifferent than any other artist they make mistake and cant satisfy everybody some leave and some stay beyond it u gotta understand every tv recording and concert deal get its off of prince name not b/c of jill jones,wendy and lisa,rosie gaines, john blackwell, nobody these people pay 4 prince name only
all except andre, dez, jam & lewis and jesse.....hell even morris went back!!!!! | |
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Everybody's playing the 'poor me I was a victim thing', you've got to be responsible for yourself in this world and stop blaming ther people for you problems. If you don't look out for YOU, nobody else will. | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: Everybody's playing the 'poor me I was a victim thing', you've got to be responsible for yourself in this world and stop blaming ther people for you problems. If you don't look out for YOU, nobody else will.
That's irrelevant. They obviously have low self esteem. The fact is Prince has treated others horribly. The way he did w& l was disgusting | |
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fcukthepolice said: wlcm2thdwn said: Everybody's playing the 'poor me I was a victim thing', you've got to be responsible for yourself in this world and stop blaming ther people for you problems. If you don't look out for YOU, nobody else will.
That's irrelevant. They obviously have low self esteem. The fact is Prince has treated others horribly. The way he did w& l was disgusting Absolutely. Case Closed. | |
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What's funny is all these people are clamining P did them wrong yet if it wasn't for P they'd be fixing slurpee's at the local 7/11 and we wouldn't be discussing them. I bet everyone of these "victims" has their tenure w/P on their musicial resume'. Everyone has been a victim @ some point in life.
Was Jill's relationship w/P so different than Shelia's? This whole P dogged W&L thing is tired now. Dude did not want to be the Beatles....accept it. He grew up liking funk. Sex Machine not Hey Jude. Stevie Wonder could see that. Just cause he didn't want to be stuck being a "rock" band doesn't mean "they" got dogged. | |
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JQuad said: What's funny is all these people are clamining P did them wrong yet if it wasn't for P they'd be fixing slurpee's at the local 7/11 and we wouldn't be discussing them. I bet everyone of these "victims" has their tenure w/P on their musicial resume'. Everyone has been a victim @ some point in life.
Was Jill's relationship w/P so different than Shelia's? This whole P dogged W&L thing is tired now. Dude did not want to be the Beatles....accept it. He grew up liking funk. Sex Machine not Hey Jude. Stevie Wonder could see that. Just cause he didn't want to be stuck being a "rock" band doesn't mean "they" got dogged. wow; what an ignorant post. P dropped w & l becuase they wanted to be paid for their production work. Everything was fine till then; as soon as they asked to be paid and credited PRINCE FIRED THEM! Prince has more victims than most; mayte anyone? | |
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fcukthepolice said: Prince has more victims than most; The trail of despise is endless. | |
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JQuad said: What's funny is all these people are clamining P did them wrong yet if it wasn't for P they'd be fixing slurpee's at the local 7/11 and we wouldn't be discussing them. I bet everyone of these "victims" has their tenure w/P on their musicial resume'. Everyone has been a victim @ some point in life.
Was Jill's relationship w/P so different than Shelia's? This whole P dogged W&L thing is tired now. Dude did not want to be the Beatles....accept it. He grew up liking funk. Sex Machine not Hey Jude. Stevie Wonder could see that. Just cause he didn't want to be stuck being a "rock" band doesn't mean "they" got dogged. Man, alot of you are sure twisting her words... Jill wrote: "and just what i have learned, is to be grateful and try to not emulate or surround myself with those that do not edify and enrich my life or spirit"... Sounds to me like she's got a positive attitude about it all. | |
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Wow..what a great mature outlook. Looks beautiful in the pic too. She looks really happy in it too. Prince always seemed to really like Jill. | |
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fcukthepolice said: JQuad said: What's funny is all these people are clamining P did them wrong yet if it wasn't for P they'd be fixing slurpee's at the local 7/11 and we wouldn't be discussing them. I bet everyone of these "victims" has their tenure w/P on their musicial resume'. Everyone has been a victim @ some point in life.
Was Jill's relationship w/P so different than Shelia's? This whole P dogged W&L thing is tired now. Dude did not want to be the Beatles....accept it. He grew up liking funk. Sex Machine not Hey Jude. Stevie Wonder could see that. Just cause he didn't want to be stuck being a "rock" band doesn't mean "they" got dogged. wow; what an ignorant post. P dropped w & l becuase they wanted to be paid for their production work. Everything was fine till then; as soon as they asked to be paid and credited PRINCE FIRED THEM! Prince has more victims than most; mayte anyone? Mayte and Nona Gaye. Both women were "befriened" at such a young age.... to dog them like that was really insult to the injury. Quit "effing" with those young girls heads ?rince. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: fcukthepolice said: wow; what an ignorant post. P dropped w & l becuase they wanted to be paid for their production work. Everything was fine till then; as soon as they asked to be paid and credited PRINCE FIRED THEM! Prince has more victims than most; mayte anyone? Mayte and Nona Gaye. Both women were "befriened" at such a young age.... to dog them like that was really insult to the injury. Quit "effing" with those young girls heads ?rince. Not to mention susanna, carmen and a bunch of others who he mentally abused. | |
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prodigalfan said: jn2 said: If Prince was so evil So why the f*ck did she accept to play in Graffiti Bridge?
I think the GB movie was part of the diss. She was promised a much larger role, she probably BELIEVED in Prince, thinking he really loved her and wanted to help his "Boo" (Jill). So she followed her heart. She found out her part was cut to a very minor role on the plane going to the shoot. Rumor was that she lost it on the plane, very pissed. Maybe she had a signed contract that she could not get out of... who knows. But it seems to me that GB was the final straw. Yeah,I heard about when she was on a plane to Minneapolis to start filming the movie.She was reading the revised script and went berserk.She started tearing it up and throwing the pages everywhere The other passengers had no idea what was going on,lol. Apparently,Prince had promised her a bigger role as his girlfriend.But he later re-wrote the script,giving Ingrid Chavez a much larger role instead.Jill's role in 'Graffiti Bridge' could have been phoned in,lol.Her character was so insignificant.The worst part of all was,during her one musical number (where she lip-syncs "Love Machine" with The Time),Ingrid quickly takes over the song Jill played second-fiddle to Apollonia in Purple Rain and now,once again,she had to play second-fiddle to another female Prince co-star. | |
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Well I'm not gonna take this post and discuss how overrated W&L are. Like Krystal666 stated Jill has displayed a very mature approach about the situations whatever they may be. | |
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fcukthepolice said: prodigalfan said: Mayte and Nona Gaye. Both women were "befriened" at such a young age.... to dog them like that was really insult to the injury. Quit "effing" with those young girls heads ?rince. Not to mention susanna, carmen and a bunch of others who he mentally abused. | |
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blah blah blah...'I know what went on with Jill and Prince cuz I was there...' and 'he treated her like shit cuz i was there' and don't forget 'Prince is an asshole for abusing Jill cuz I was there...'.
Do you guys ever read your posts, ever? You sound like idiots. Like you know who or what she's referring to. Even if it is Prince-pulling my hair out- who gives a rat's ass what went on between the two of them?...and what did happen was and IS between them and God. He is no saint and neither is she, so don't try to pretend you know otherwise. You guys all sound like bitter little computer nerds mad at the world cuz you think mom has you trapped in her basement and the man's keeping you down. Get out, breath some real air and get a life-and for God's sake, go live on your own...you won't have as much time to get on the net and that'll be good for all of us. "Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham | |
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XNY said: blah blah blah...'I know what went on with Jill and Prince cuz I was there...' and 'he treated her like shit cuz i was there' and don't forget 'Prince is an asshole for abusing Jill cuz I was there...'.
Do you guys ever read your posts, ever? You sound like idiots. Like you know who or what she's referring to. Even if it is Prince-pulling my hair out- who gives a rat's ass what went on between the two of them?...and what did happen was and IS between them and God. He is no saint and neither is she, so don't try to pretend you know otherwise. You guys all sound like bitter little computer nerds mad at the world cuz you think mom has you trapped in her basement and the man's keeping you down. Get out, breath some real air and get a life-and for God's sake, go live on your own...you won't have as much time to get on the net and that'll be good for all of us. Take's princes' hairy balls from your chin and his penis out of your mouth | |
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fcukthepolice said: Take's princes' hairy balls from your chin and his penis out of your mouth
[snip - CarrieMpls]. I'll bet you sit in the dark and daydream about how you're going to avenge Jill and W&L for what you READ Prince did to them, don't you, psycho, yeah I know you do. [Edited 12/24/07 16:53pm] Only the stupid are STILL Prince fans. | |
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Where do you get your info from? It was Alan Leeds who said they threaten to leave in the middle of some Parade shows and that even he knew they were going to fired.
If P did get rid of them because they wanted credit so be it. It is called business they were stupid if they worked for and did not get paid. You have to take some responsiblity for yourself and move on with your life. ----- fcukthepolice said: JQuad said: What's funny is all these people are clamining P did them wrong yet if it wasn't for P they'd be fixing slurpee's at the local 7/11 and we wouldn't be discussing them. I bet everyone of these "victims" has their tenure w/P on their musicial resume'. Everyone has been a victim @ some point in life.
Was Jill's relationship w/P so different than Shelia's? This whole P dogged W&L thing is tired now. Dude did not want to be the Beatles....accept it. He grew up liking funk. Sex Machine not Hey Jude. Stevie Wonder could see that. Just cause he didn't want to be stuck being a "rock" band doesn't mean "they" got dogged. wow; what an ignorant post. P dropped w & l becuase they wanted to be paid for their production work. Everything was fine till then; as soon as they asked to be paid and credited PRINCE FIRED THEM! Prince has more victims than most; mayte anyone? | |
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Co-Sign All of this handwringing over these chicks (LOL)
XNY said: blah blah blah...'I know what went on with Jill and Prince cuz I was there...' and 'he treated her like shit cuz i was there' and don't forget 'Prince is an asshole for abusing Jill cuz I was there...'.
Do you guys ever read your posts, ever? You sound like idiots. Like you know who or what she's referring to. Even if it is Prince-pulling my hair out- who gives a rat's ass what went on between the two of them?...and what did happen was and IS between them and God. He is no saint and neither is she, so don't try to pretend you know otherwise. You guys all sound like bitter little computer nerds mad at the world cuz you think mom has you trapped in her basement and the man's keeping you down. Get out, breath some real air and get a life-and for God's sake, go live on your own...you won't have as much time to get on the net and that'll be good for all of us. | |
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Jezebel said: fcukthepolice said: Take's princes' hairy balls from your chin and his penis out of your mouth
[snip - CarrieMpls] I'll bet you sit in the dark and daydream about how you're going to avenge Jill and W&L for what you READ Prince did to them, don't you, psycho, yeah I know you do. [Edited 12/24/07 16:53pm] What i read? Yeah right. Do you know how evidence works in court?When credible, multiple independant sources verify the same story and the same bahaviour pattern that is good evidence. Ask blackguitarist if he's not sick of telling what he knows. He was told from people ON THE INSIDE! Choosing to ignore disgusting behaviour only holds us back as a race(human). | |
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It is not proof it is called hearsay.
fcukthepolice said: Jezebel said: [snip - CarrieMpls] I'll bet you sit in the dark and daydream about how you're going to avenge Jill and W&L for what you READ Prince did to them, don't you, psycho, yeah I know you do. [Edited 12/24/07 16:53pm] What i read? Yeah right. Do you know how evidence works in court?When credible, multiple independant sources verify the same story and the same bahaviour pattern that is good evidence. Ask blackguitarist if he's not sick of telling what he knows. He was told from people ON THE INSIDE! Choosing to ignore disgusting behaviour only holds us back as a race(human). | |
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laurarichardson said: Where do you get your info from? It was Alan Leeds who said they threaten to leave in the middle of some Parade shows and that even he knew they were going to fired.
If P did get rid of them because they wanted credit so be it. It is called business they were stupid if they worked for and did not get paid. You have to take some responsiblity for yourself and move on with your life. ----- fcukthepolice said: wow; what an ignorant post. P dropped w & l becuase they wanted to be paid for their production work. Everything was fine till then; as soon as they asked to be paid and credited PRINCE FIRED THEM! Prince has more victims than most; mayte anyone? W & L CONFIRMED WHAT HAPPENED IN A RECENT INERVIEW! | |
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laurarichardson said: It is not nonsense it is true. All of these chicks knew that P was running around on them yet they hung around to get his help with their careers
That is the thing that is really pathetic. fcukthepolice said: nonsense Hey.. It's the internet..People spout propaganda, and run from the truth.. It hurts, especially when you may see your own mistakes in the truth.. Still, Jill may not have intended to implicate Prince with these comments. People are running with something that they have no idea what she is talking about.. And if she is hinting at Mr.Nelson, Come-out and say it! Don't do it this way. | |
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fcukthepolice said: laurarichardson said: Where do you get your info from? It was Alan Leeds who said they threaten to leave in the middle of some Parade shows and that even he knew they were going to fired.
If P did get rid of them because they wanted credit so be it. It is called business they were stupid if they worked for and did not get paid. You have to take some responsiblity for yourself and move on with your life. ----- W & L CONFIRMED WHAT HAPPENED IN A RECENT INERVIEW! Link? They were so abused, but when they needed to shine in public, they cling to him, and run when he calls? They conitnue to cash-in on their association with him? How about never performing with him again, and sticking to their guns? I bet in the common world, they would tell the average person on the street to move-on from their personal traumas and troubles without consoling them. Why don't they? Get-up! Move-on! Alot of people spout-off about their pain when it is convenient for them to do so, but don't care about anyone else's. Everybody is a selfish, self-serving victim, and not a victimizer. "This is what it sounds like...When 'Booters' Cry'" [Edited 12/26/07 8:45am] | |
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Everybody is a selfish, self-serving victim. Spoken like a true abuser trying to defend yourself. You need to stop the your current abuse pattern aimed towards me in the form of cyberterriosm before the FBI,FTC, FCC moves on in on your behind. Because, I've had it with your online foolishness and games. You can fool your fans & the public. But, you can't fool those in the industry or the authorties. | |
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fcukthepolice said: XxAxX said: ALIEN reptilians can Maybe i think they're more interested in eating children than practising their scales and chords MILLIONS go missing every year; where do they go? :gasp: :ohno!: you sayin' the misdsing children are taken to paisley park and eaten there? or, do the alien reptilian guitar-playing prince clones simply cryogenically preserve them for other reasons? like, keeping them around as a permanent audience? y'know, that is truly freaky. alls i can say is it's a good thing i check this forum now and then. how else would i know what is really going on? that prince, i mean whoo boy!!! next time i see him up close i'ma be lookin' out for his six fingers and toes. no WONDER he always wear heels!!! | |
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XxAxX said: fcukthepolice said: Maybe i think they're more interested in eating children than practising their scales and chords MILLIONS go missing every year; where do they go? :gasp: :ohno!: you sayin' the misdsing children are taken to paisley park and eaten there? or, do the alien reptilian guitar-playing prince clones simply cryogenically preserve them for other reasons? like, keeping them around as a permanent audience? y'know, that is truly freaky. alls i can say is it's a good thing i check this forum now and then. how else would i know what is really going on? that prince, i mean whoo boy!!! next time i see him up close i'ma be lookin' out for his six fingers and toes. no WONDER he always wear heels!!! | |
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fcukthepolice said: XNY said: blah blah blah...'I know what went on with Jill and Prince cuz I was there...' and 'he treated her like shit cuz i was there' and don't forget 'Prince is an asshole for abusing Jill cuz I was there...'.
Do you guys ever read your posts, ever? You sound like idiots. Like you know who or what she's referring to. Even if it is Prince-pulling my hair out- who gives a rat's ass what went on between the two of them?...and what did happen was and IS between them and God. He is no saint and neither is she, so don't try to pretend you know otherwise. You guys all sound like bitter little computer nerds mad at the world cuz you think mom has you trapped in her basement and the man's keeping you down. Get out, breath some real air and get a life-and for God's sake, go live on your own...you won't have as much time to get on the net and that'll be good for all of us. Take's princes' hairy balls from your chin and his penis out of your mouth "Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham | |
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