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blackguitaristz said: Strawberry Lover. Yes, he wrote that. Jill is actually singing backup on that. This was the one song I couldn't get enough of... used to play it over and over and over. P would make these facial expressions while he was performing that was like.....odd. he wouldn't look human at times. Like something would come over him.
A few years back, I was very close to someone who was VERY high up in satanism, underground politics, etc. She'd seen and been a part of a lot of crazy stuff. She never said she knew of anything Prince was involved in, but she swore he was a shape-shifter. P would probably do all kinds of weird shit with his women. Play them crazy sounding music with backwards shit on it. Tell them shit like he can see things that other people can't. Just mind control shit. And it probably worked.
I bet Vanity has some "king kong" stories to tell -- those two seemed to click on that freaky shit. Not to mention herself messing around with backward masking on her very first solo song (on the album). But she probably wouldn't want anyone to think she's crazier than what she is (as much as i LOVE her) so she probably won't. | |
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bellanoche said: kaptainkrunk said: its ironic how everybody complain about how prince was and how he treated people when if prince was 2 come 2 any of u and say move in 2 paisley park and let me produce u u would leave like no 2morrow princ is no different than any other artist they make mistake and cant satisfy everybody some leave and some stay beyond
Thank you KK. These threads are seriously depressing. These people talk as if they know Prince intimately. Unless you were there or in his head, how do you know? How do you separate fact from fiction? It's all speculation and conjecture. People just roll with whatever they want to roll, typically without verification because some of these myths and legends are unverifiable. He's a man plain and simple - no one is infallible. What's funny is that I have met some of the people mentioned on this board and they had nothing but positive things to say about Prince. So who knows what the truth is. People are rehashing alleged incidents from two decades ago. People mature, they move on. At least people outside of the Org seem to. Prince went ike turner on her ass. I dare not say more  | |
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blackguitaristz said: Strawberry Lover. Yes, he wrote that. Jill is actually singing backup on that. This was the one song I couldn't get enough of... used to play it over and over and over. A few years back, I was very close to someone who was VERY high up in satanism, underground politics, etc. She'd seen and been a part of a lot of crazy stuff. She never said she knew of anything Prince was involved in, but she swore he was a shape-shifter. P would probably do all kinds of weird shit with his women. Play them crazy sounding music with backwards shit on it. Tell them shit like he can see things that other people can't. Just mind control shit. And it probably worked.
I bet Vanity has some "king kong" stories to tell -- those two seemed to click on that freaky shit. Not to mention herself messing around with backward masking on her very first solo song (on the album). But she probably wouldn't want anyone to think she's crazier than what she is (as much as i LOVE her) so she probably won't. what? 
Are you saying Prince is a reptilian shape shifting, blood drinking demon? I doubt that. I don't think many reptilians can rip a mean guitar solo. He's just a troubled human who treats other like he was treated a s kid. He is from an abusive household and we know how that goes. The behaviour continues but prince is not as physically violent as his dad was. | |
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fcukthepolice said: Prince went ike turner on her ass. I dare not say more i have heard these rumors before... but I really find this one and the one about him getting physical with Sinead O'connor, really hard to believe. He comes across as someone who can be verbal, and mentally cruel... but physical??? as Calhoun Square says from time to time... ?rince looks like he needs a sammich and a bag of chips from time to time. Defintely a fly light weight... I think Jill could have held her own with ?prince...  "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: fcukthepolice said: Prince went ike turner on her ass. I dare not say more i have heard these rumors before... but I really find this one and the one about him getting physical with Sinead O'connor, really hard to believe. He comes across as someone who can be verbal, and mentally cruel... but physical??? as Calhoun Square says from time to time... ?rince looks like he needs a sammich and a bag of chips from time to time. Defintely a fly light weight... I think Jill could have held her own with ?prince... Here we go again. Even Wendy said she was sometimes scared of him. He had a really bad temper. The interview where she says that is somewhere online. I don;t believe Prince would ever ssystematically beat any women BUT a moment of anger; certainly. Prince sues his fans for any little thing. You don;t think he would of sued sinead o'connor if she lied? Being accused of attacking or at least threatening to beat her? HE WOULD OF SUED STRAIGHT away but he knew it was true. Think about that one. Defamation of character! Scarlotte johansson is suing a mag for saying she had surgery. Prince would of sued sinead and rolling stone if he didn;t know she was being truthful | |
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How could Jill let prince get away treating her like the way he did? I heard some horrible stuff.
Who is to say the Jill is only in the minority of his ex's or former acquaintces w/a perspective to tell. And why is she inspired to speak now. Interesting how the tides turn. [Edited 12/8/07 12:17pm] | |
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fcukthepolice said: prodigalfan said: i have heard these rumors before... but I really find this one and the one about him getting physical with Sinead O'connor, really hard to believe. He comes across as someone who can be verbal, and mentally cruel... but physical??? as Calhoun Square says from time to time... ?rince looks like he needs a sammich and a bag of chips from time to time. Defintely a fly light weight... I think Jill could have held her own with ?prince... Here we go again. Even Wendy said she was sometimes scared of him. He had a really bad temper. The interview where she says that is somewhere online. I don;t believe Prince would ever ssystematically beat any women BUT a moment of anger; certainly. Prince sues his fans for any little thing. You don;t think he would of sued sinead o'connor if she lied? Being accused of attacking or at least threatening to beat her? HE WOULD OF SUED STRAIGHT away but he knew it was true. Think about that one. Defamation of character! Scarlotte johansson is suing a mag for saying she had surgery. Prince would of sued sinead and rolling stone if he didn;t know she was being truthful Alrighty then! you do have a point!  "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: fcukthepolice said: Prince went ike turner on her ass. I dare not say more i have heard these rumors before... but I really find this one and the one about him getting physical with Sinead O'connor, really hard to believe. He comes across as someone who can be verbal, and mentally cruel... but physical??? as Calhoun Square says from time to time... ?rince looks like he needs a sammich and a bag of chips from time to time. Defintely a fly light weight... I think Jill could have held her own with ?prince... Yeah,I agree  Many of these women could have kicked Prince's ass,if they had to.Come on now...Prince is a skinny,5'2 man with high heels on! Most of his ladies were taller and bigger than he was. | |
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SoulAlive said: prodigalfan said: i have heard these rumors before... but I really find this one and the one about him getting physical with Sinead O'connor, really hard to believe. He comes across as someone who can be verbal, and mentally cruel... but physical??? as Calhoun Square says from time to time... ?rince looks like he needs a sammich and a bag of chips from time to time. Defintely a fly light weight... I think Jill could have held her own with ?prince... Yeah,I agree Many of these women could have kicked Prince's ass,if they had to.Come on now...Prince is a skinny,5'2 man with high heels on! Most of his ladies were taller and bigger than he was.BULLSHIT! Prince is strong and uesd to be in great shape. Check out PR the mocie where he's in his vest; he's cut and built for his size. The women who stand their own with him get **** **** | |
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fcukthepolice said: Snap said: Sorry if this appears twice -- org ate my last one, apparently.
I bet Vanity has some "king kong" stories to tell -- those two seemed to click on that freaky shit. Not to mention herself messing around with backward masking on her very first solo song (on the album). But she probably wouldn't want anyone to think she's crazier than what she is (as much as i LOVE her) so she probably won't. what?
Are you saying Prince is a reptilian shape shifting, blood drinking demon? I doubt that. I don't think many reptilians can rip a mean guitar solo. He's just a troubled human who treats other like he was treated a s kid. He is from an abusive household and we know how that goes. The behaviour continues but prince is not as physically violent as his dad was. ----- I am pleasantly surprised that you realize Prince is not the product of Satan but, I guy who came from a fucked up home. No, I am not making excuses for him. If he has had an Ike Turner moment he should have been punished just like anyone else. | |
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"Prince sues his fans" Prince has not sued any fans.
In addtion, no reason to sued Sinead since no one takes are seriously. She back tracked on her story. Not that I am saying it could not be true but if you sue you draw more attention to the story. fcukthepolice said: prodigalfan said: i have heard these rumors before... but I really find this one and the one about him getting physical with Sinead O'connor, really hard to believe. He comes across as someone who can be verbal, and mentally cruel... but physical??? as Calhoun Square says from time to time... ?rince looks like he needs a sammich and a bag of chips from time to time. Defintely a fly light weight... I think Jill could have held her own with ?prince... Here we go again. Even Wendy said she was sometimes scared of him. He had a really bad temper. The interview where she says that is somewhere online. I don;t believe Prince would ever ssystematically beat any women BUT a moment of anger; certainly. Prince sues his fans for any little thing. You don;t think he would of sued sinead o'connor if she lied? Being accused of attacking or at least threatening to beat her? HE WOULD OF SUED STRAIGHT away but he knew it was true. Think about that one. Defamation of character! Scarlotte johansson is suing a mag for saying she had surgery. Prince would of sued sinead and rolling stone if he didn;t know she was being truthful | |
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SoulAlive said: I agree!! Jill's album definitely should have come out sooner.Late '84 or early '85.She should have been allowed to ride the 'Purple Rain' wave along with Sheila E,The Time and the others.Her album would have been HUGE if it had come out around that time.Radio would not have ignored it.I agree with you about BrownMark producing.One reason why the Mazarati album is so good is because Prince didn't take over the production.He allowed BrownMark to handle the production and to keep it funky,sounding like the "Minneapolis Sound".If Prince had been totally in charge,he probably would have brought in violins and an orchestra,making it sound like the Family Prince should have contributed one or two songs to Jill's album....something really catchy and commercial,like "Sugar Walls",to be a single.I always wondered why he gave that song away when his own female proteges at the time (Apollonia 6,Jill Jones) could have used a hot groove like that.
That's probably why it was not released at that time. Prince was possibly not to fond of the idea of one of his "underlings" being as successful (or maybe more successful even?) than him. I think he tried to make his "side projects" one hit wonders on purpose. | |
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fcukthepolice said: Snap said: Sorry if this appears twice -- org ate my last one, apparently.
I bet Vanity has some "king kong" stories to tell -- those two seemed to click on that freaky shit. Not to mention herself messing around with backward masking on her very first solo song (on the album). But she probably wouldn't want anyone to think she's crazier than what she is (as much as i LOVE her) so she probably won't. what?
Are you saying Prince is a reptilian shape shifting, blood drinking demon? I doubt that. I don't think many reptilians can rip a mean guitar solo. He's just a troubled human who treats other like he was treated a s kid. He is from an abusive household and we know how that goes. The behaviour continues but prince is not as physically violent as his dad was. ALIEN reptilians can  | |
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XxAxX said: fcukthepolice said: what?
Are you saying Prince is a reptilian shape shifting, blood drinking demon? I doubt that. I don't think many reptilians can rip a mean guitar solo. He's just a troubled human who treats other like he was treated a s kid. He is from an abusive household and we know how that goes. The behaviour continues but prince is not as physically violent as his dad was. ALIEN reptilians can Maybe 
i think they're more interested in eating children than practising their scales and chords MILLIONS go missing every year; where do they go? | |
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Nikster said: SoulAlive said: I agree!! Jill's album definitely should have come out sooner.Late '84 or early '85.She should have been allowed to ride the 'Purple Rain' wave along with Sheila E,The Time and the others.Her album would have been HUGE if it had come out around that time.Radio would not have ignored it.I agree with you about BrownMark producing.One reason why the Mazarati album is so good is because Prince didn't take over the production.He allowed BrownMark to handle the production and to keep it funky,sounding like the "Minneapolis Sound".If Prince had been totally in charge,he probably would have brought in violins and an orchestra,making it sound like the Family Prince should have contributed one or two songs to Jill's album....something really catchy and commercial,like "Sugar Walls",to be a single.I always wondered why he gave that song away when his own female proteges at the time (Apollonia 6,Jill Jones) could have used a hot groove like that.
That's probably why it was not released at that time. Prince was possibly not to fond of the idea of one of his "underlings" being as successful (or maybe more successful even?) than him. I think he tried to make his "side projects" one hit wonders on purpose. Agreed. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Not to say these stories aren't true.....but like a coin there is another side. I don't condone hitting a woman.....an I don't know if that's true or not....but people 4get Prince was 24 or 25 with a lot of responsibility on his shoulders at that time. His career, the Time's, Vanity 6's not to mention his band and etc. At that age was he making the best decisions probably not. What 24 -25 yr old is.
In terms of his relationships with these women....what guy in his position at that time wouldn't try to get with those women if the could. Who's gonna say no Jill is enough when Susan is there..... Hey maybe dude will pull a Miles Davis and in 10yrs write his autobiography and answers a crap load of ????'s | |
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JQuad said: Not to say these stories aren't true.....but like a coin there is another side. I don't condone hitting a woman.....an I don't know if that's true or not....but people 4get Prince was 24 or 25 with a lot of responsibility on his shoulders at that time. His career, the Time's, Vanity 6's not to mention his band and etc. At that age was he making the best decisions probably not. What 24 -25 yr old is.
In terms of his relationships with these women....what guy in his position at that time wouldn't try to get with those women if the could. Who's gonna say no Jill is enough when Susan is there..... Hey maybe dude will pull a Miles Davis and in 10yrs write his autobiography and answers a crap load of ????'s Yeah right Prince will NEVER admit his wrongs He cares about 2 things; GOD AND MUSIC; that's it. His age is irrelevant. | |
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fcukthepolice said: JQuad said: Not to say these stories aren't true.....but like a coin there is another side. I don't condone hitting a woman.....an I don't know if that's true or not....but people 4get Prince was 24 or 25 with a lot of responsibility on his shoulders at that time. His career, the Time's, Vanity 6's not to mention his band and etc. At that age was he making the best decisions probably not. What 24 -25 yr old is.
In terms of his relationships with these women....what guy in his position at that time wouldn't try to get with those women if the could. Who's gonna say no Jill is enough when Susan is there..... Hey maybe dude will pull a Miles Davis and in 10yrs write his autobiography and answers a crap load of ????'s Yeah right Prince will NEVER admit his wrongs He cares about 2 things; GOD AND MUSIC; that's it. His age is irrelevant. Valid point. One never fully answers to their wrong until its time to meet their maker/death. Ego can be the undoing of some while on Earth. [Edited 12/15/07 11:17am] | |
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MsLegs said: fcukthepolice said: Yeah right Prince will NEVER admit his wrongs He cares about 2 things; GOD AND MUSIC; that's it. His age is irrelevant. Valid point. One never fully answers to their wrong until its time to meet their maker/death. Ego can be the undoing of some while on Earth. [Edited 12/15/07 11:17am] The problem is he's surrounded by ass kissers. Just ask shawn michaels. He was an arrogant, cocky prick and he got his ass beat BADLY; he said it taught him a lesson about respecting others. PRINCE ARE YOU LISTENING? | |
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If Prince was so evil So why the f*ck did she accept to play in Graffiti Bridge? | |
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jn2 said: If Prince was so evil So why the f*ck did she accept to play in Graffiti Bridge?
Things turned sour AFTER that i believe. Prince has had many people love him | |
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fcukthepolice said: MsLegs said: Valid point. One never fully answers to their wrong until its time to meet their maker/death. Ego can be the undoing of some while on Earth. [Edited 12/15/07 11:17am] The problem is he's surrounded by ass kissers. Just ask shawn michaels. He was an arrogant, cocky prick and he got his ass beat BADLY; he said it taught him a lesson about respecting others. PRINCE ARE YOU LISTENING?  | |
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JQuad said: Not to say these stories aren't true.....but like a coin there is another side. I don't condone hitting a woman.....an I don't know if that's true or not....but people 4get Prince was 24 or 25 with a lot of responsibility on his shoulders at that time. His career, the Time's, Vanity 6's not to mention his band and etc. At that age was he making the best decisions probably not. What 24 -25 yr old is.
In terms of his relationships with these women....what guy in his position at that time wouldn't try to get with those women if the could. Who's gonna say no Jill is enough when Susan is there..... Hey maybe dude will pull a Miles Davis and in 10yrs write his autobiography and answers a crap load of ????'s It would be great if he would. He would be the best person to answer any question but I don't think we should hold our breaths. Shelia E would be another great source but I don't think she would write a book becasue of her loyalty. She is the only one who has remained friends with him for the longest. | |
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khoskhal said: Shelia E would be another great source but I don't think she would write a book becasue of her loyalty.
 Not only loyalty. But it boils down to not wanting to opening a bad memories which are hurtful, sometimes certain things are better left alone when you're heart has already taken all it can stand (perhaps this is the case) from being hurt and betrayed time and time again by someone you thought you could trust and love. However, when one forgives, you forgive but you can't forget. Her faith, friends, and family support is what keeps her strong.[Edited 12/15/07 14:48pm] | |
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MsLegs said: khoskhal said: Shelia E would be another great source but I don't think she would write a book becasue of her loyalty.
Not only loyalty. But it boils down to not wanting to opening a bad memories which are hurtful, sometimes certain things are better left alone when you're heart has already taken all it can stand (perhaps this is the case) from being hurt and betrayed time and time again by someone you thought you could trust and love. However, when one forgives, you forgive but you can't forget. Her faith, friends, and family support is what keeps her strong.
[Edited 12/15/07 14:48pm] Yes, your right. She is such a special person and as you can see very forgiving. (A great friend) | |
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khoskhal said: MsLegs said: Not only loyalty. But it boils down to not wanting to opening a bad memories which are hurtful, sometimes certain things are better left alone when you're heart has already taken all it can stand (perhaps this is the case) from being hurt and betrayed time and time again by someone you thought you could trust and love. However, when one forgives, you forgive but you can't forget. Her faith, friends, and family support is what keeps her strong.
[Edited 12/15/07 14:48pm] Yes, your right. She is such a special person and as you can see very forgiving. (A great friend) | |
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jn2 said: If Prince was so evil So why the f*ck did she accept to play in Graffiti Bridge?
I think the GB movie was part of the diss. She was promised a much larger role, she probably BELIEVED in Prince, thinking he really loved her and wanted to help his "Boo" (Jill). So she followed her heart. She found out her part was cut to a very minor role on the plane going to the shoot. Rumor was that she lost it on the plane, very pissed. Maybe she had a signed contract that she could not get out of... who knows. But it seems to me that GB was the final straw. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Second that.
I love JJ- awesome that she's happy! | |
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Hang on...
I just noticed this topic to be 3 pages long! Yea- I think Prince would never let anyone rival him, and so he downplayed everybody else around him. She did need guidance and if she had been given more of it, things could have been so different. BUT THERE IS TODAY. AND SHE'S DOING IT TODAY. SO LETS SUPPORT HER AND SPREAD THE WORD. | |
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