I JUST PULLED THIS CD OUTTA MY CAR AFTER LISTENING 2 IT 4 2 WEEKS STRAIGHT!!!!
EVERYONE SAYS IT'S THEIR "WEAKEST" LP. THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT IT IS BY FAR THEIR BEST-SELLING LP!!!!! IT'S JUST A SHAME THAT THERE WAS NO TOUR BEHIND IT. BUT BY THEN THE BAND WAS DONE. CAN U IMAGINE THE TIME ON THE "PURPLE RAIN" TOUR??? AGAIN THEY WOULDA WHOOPED PRINCE'S ASS ON STAGE!!!!! LOL!!!! BUT....THEN AGAIN MAYBE NOT!!!! THEIR HEART & SOUL (JIMMY JAM, TERRY & MONTE) WAS GONE. AND EVEN IF THEY WERE STILL TOGETHER, I DON'T THINK PRINCE WOULDA RISKED BEING UPSTAGED AT THAT POINT!!!!! I'M EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED 2 THIS LP AS WELL: I JUST PERFORMED IT AS PART OF A TRIBUTE TO THE TIME LAST FRIDAY!!!!! I WILL GO OUT ON A LIMB HERE: I LISTEN TO "ICC" MORE THAN I DO "THE TIME" OR "PANDEMONIUM"!!!!! I LOVE THE WHOLE LP, BUT MY ABSOLUTE FAVES ARE "ICC", "MY DRAWERS" & "JUNGLE LOVE"!!!! IT WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTING TO HEAR THE UNCUT VERSION OF "JUNGLE LOVE" I HEARD PRINCE BUTCHERED JESSE'S SOLO IN THE EDITING PROCESS!!!!! | |
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I have to admit, the albums grown on me since starting this thread. I don't know what it is about Chilli Sauce but I can't stop listening to it. I love Morris Day's arrogant persona... so humourous. And the instrumentation in the background is gorgeous! | |
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Imagine this - seeing The Jungle Love, The Bird and Ice Cream Castles videos and Purple Rain when it came out. As a teen, I didn't know all about the drama that went on with Jam and Lewis and about Prince playing most of the stuff on the records - all I knew was the cats I'd seen on screen were cool as hell. Now, I did know that the songs were different than 777-9311 - which I loved - but I still dug the album just the same.
Also, that whole time period - where I also discovered the Dirty Mind album - converted me from a Michael Jackson fanatic to a full-fledged, wannabe Minneapolis funk child My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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blackguitaristz said: SoulAlive said: I never cared much for this album.I like "My Drawers" and "Jungle Love" but the other songs don't do much for me.It's a disappointing follow-up to the excellent 'What Time Is It' album.
The first two Time albums are essential.The other two,I can take or leave. I agree with this. It's their weakest album hands down. The band had basically broken up by the time the album was released. It was a lot of mess going on during the recording of the album. P held back many cuts knowing that the group was finished. So there are many throwaway cuts on there. Cuts like Mutiny and High Fashion were tailored for The Time but know way was he going to waste cuts like that on a band that was done. Similar thing with Apples6 album. He knew that project was a one album thing so he yanked hits like The Glamourous Life and Manic Monday. I LOVE the title cut "Ice Cream Castles". Always have. The lyrics don't fit Morris singing though. Morris told me that it's truly a Prince subject matter song. He said "Prince and his white girls." "High Fashion" would have been perfect for this album.In fact,it should have been the lead-off song,instead of "Ice Cream Castles",which Morris didn't even care for. | |
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After reading & participating in this discussion.....
COULDN"T U HEAR PERRY COMO'S VERSION OF "ICE CREAM CASTLES"????? THAT'S PROBABLY WHY MORRIS LOOKS SO PISSED ON THE ALBUM COVER!!!!! HE DIDN'T LIKE JONI MITCHELL.....PRINCE DID!!!! THAT IS WHERE THE "ICE CREAM CASTLES" LINE CAME FROM....A JONI MITCHELL SONG!!!!! | |
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woogiebear said: After reading & participating in this discussion.....
COULDN"T U HEAR PERRY COMO'S VERSION OF "ICE CREAM CASTLES"????? THAT'S PROBABLY WHY MORRIS LOOKS SO PISSED ON THE ALBUM COVER!!!!! HE DIDN'T LIKE JONI MITCHELL.....PRINCE DID!!!! THAT IS WHERE THE "ICE CREAM CASTLES" LINE CAME FROM....A JONI MITCHELL SONG!!!!! Exactly."Ice Cream Castles" is a Prince song that really doesn't fit the Time's image.It's silly hearing the pimp-like Morris go on and on about an interracial relationship He's too cool to try to analyze something like that,lol. | |
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I think it was one of their last great albums...
Now Pandemonium??? | |
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funkpill said: I think it was one of their last great albums...
Now Pandemonium??? Now Pandemonium has even more great songs on it than ICC. Blondie, Skillet, Pandemonium, Jerk Out... where do I begin? All of those are classic and would fill up one side of their greatest hits CD. The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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madhouseman said: funkpill said: I think it was one of their last great albums...
Now Pandemonium??? Now Pandemonium has even more great songs on it than ICC. Blondie, Skillet, Pandemonium, Jerk Out... where do I begin? All of those are classic and would fill up one side of their greatest hits CD. | |
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DarkSideOfBeauty said: madhouseman said: Now Pandemonium has even more great songs on it than ICC. Blondie, Skillet, Pandemonium, Jerk Out... where do I begin? All of those are classic and would fill up one side of their greatest hits CD. I totally agree. I am going to start a thread that asks what tracks would be on a TIME greatest hits CD The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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madhouseman said: DarkSideOfBeauty said: I totally agree. I am going to start a thread that asks what tracks would be on a TIME greatest hits CD Can give you mines now The Bird 777-9311 Ice Cream Castles Cool Gigolo's Get Lonely Too Tricky (bonus track) The Walk Get It Up Wild And Loose The Stick Jungle Love Grace (bonus track) Nothing from Pandemonium Like a few tunes, but not as a whole | |
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funkpill said: madhouseman said: I totally agree. I am going to start a thread that asks what tracks would be on a TIME greatest hits CD Can give you mines now The Bird 777-9311 Ice Cream Castles Cool Gigolo's Get Lonely Too Tricky (bonus track) The Walk Get It Up Wild And Loose The Stick Jungle Love Grace (bonus track) Nothing from Pandemonium Like a few tunes, but not as a whole Harsh! No Skillet? No Jerk Out? No Release It? No Blondie? sounds incomplete! Maybe on the bonus disk or something. YOUNT! The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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That album is fire. My brother, who is exactly Ps age went w/ me through the whole PR ride but he was always in my ear like "you know that Time album is funkier than this for real dont you?" If theyd have done My Drawers in PR, P might have been sitting w/ Morris at the academy awards. Its a real, true, funk album. In fact before PR, even though P wrote most of the material, the Time gave ol boy a run for his money many a night. When it was sort of underground, they were raw. | |
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madhouseman said: funkpill said: Can give you mines now The Bird 777-9311 Ice Cream Castles Cool Gigolo's Get Lonely Too Tricky (bonus track) The Walk Get It Up Wild And Loose The Stick Jungle Love Grace (bonus track) Nothing from Pandemonium Like a few tunes, but not as a whole Harsh! No Skillet? No Jerk Out? No Release It? No Blondie? sounds incomplete! Maybe on the bonus disk or something. YOUNT! I can see where both of ya'll are coming from. Really, I always considered Pandemonium a Jesse album with some old ass P cuts thrown in for good measure. I like Blondie and Skillet and I 've always liked Jerk Out. But the o.g version. Not The Time's version. When I think of this album, I think of Jesse turning it loose a bit on guitar. It's not a tailored sound like the first two albums were. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: madhouseman said: Harsh! No Skillet? No Jerk Out? No Release It? No Blondie? sounds incomplete! Maybe on the bonus disk or something. YOUNT! I can see where both of ya'll are coming from. Really, I always considered Pandemonium a Jesse album with some old ass P cuts thrown in for good measure. I like Blondie and Skillet and I 've always liked Jerk Out. But the o.g version. Not The Time's version. When I think of this album, I think of Jesse turning it loose a bit on guitar. It's not a tailored sound like the first two albums were. I think that is what makes it great. I love the fact that there are more than 6 songs on it! Whats up with only putting out 6 songs on an album? That is one side of music? Sure the albums were good but 6 songs? Wha tha fa? The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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madhouseman said: blackguitaristz said: I can see where both of ya'll are coming from. Really, I always considered Pandemonium a Jesse album with some old ass P cuts thrown in for good measure. I like Blondie and Skillet and I 've always liked Jerk Out. But the o.g version. Not The Time's version. When I think of this album, I think of Jesse turning it loose a bit on guitar. It's not a tailored sound like the first two albums were. I think that is what makes it great. I love the fact that there are more than 6 songs on it! Whats up with only putting out 6 songs on an album? That is one side of music? Sure the albums were good but 6 songs? Wha tha fa? I agree. It always appeared that P didn't have enough material for The Time albums. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: madhouseman said: I think that is what makes it great. I love the fact that there are more than 6 songs on it! Whats up with only putting out 6 songs on an album? That is one side of music? Sure the albums were good but 6 songs? Wha tha fa? I agree. It always appeared that P didn't have enough material for The Time albums. That was always my beef. That is why I wish that Prince would have not put International Lover on 1999 and kept Morris' vocals on it, and placed it on the 2nd album by The Time. If he'd have been more excited about this, he'd have added some of the additional Time tracks on the albums (Bold Generation, Dance 2 the Beat, Movie Star, etc.) to fill them out. The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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madhouseman said: blackguitaristz said: I agree. It always appeared that P didn't have enough material for The Time albums. That was always my beef. That is why I wish that Prince would have not put International Lover on 1999 and kept Morris' vocals on it, and placed it on the 2nd album by The Time. If he'd have been more excited about this, he'd have added some of the additional Time tracks on the albums (Bold Generation, Dance 2 the Beat, Movie Star, etc.) to fill them out. I beg the differ my friends I loved the six long jams on each album... It became traditional Maybe that's why I'm not feeling Pandemonium that much. Overproduced and way too many interludes and such.. I tried to chop it down to six extended tunes to no avail. Can't listen to it long enough | |
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funkpill said: madhouseman said: That was always my beef. That is why I wish that Prince would have not put International Lover on 1999 and kept Morris' vocals on it, and placed it on the 2nd album by The Time. If he'd have been more excited about this, he'd have added some of the additional Time tracks on the albums (Bold Generation, Dance 2 the Beat, Movie Star, etc.) to fill them out. I beg the differ my friends I loved the six long jams on each album... It became traditional Maybe that's why I'm not feeling Pandemonium that much. Overproduced and way too many interludes and such.. I tried to chop it down to six extended tunes to no avail. Can't listen to it long enough At first, when the debut came out, I vividly remember thinking how cool it was that only 6 songs were on there for some reason. It just worked some how. When the second album came out, I thought pretty much the same thing. But when Ice Cream hit, I thought he should have had a few more cuts on there. Probably because of the film. I did think that this was a special situation and deserved to be treated as such. Their album cover was much fancier and almost regal. Just seeing 6 cuts on there seemed to cheapen the vibe somehow. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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I like the idea of putting only 6 songs on the Time albums.That way,we got those amazing LONG versions.Come on....the full-length version of "777-9311" with that lengthy guitar solo...the full-length version of "I Don't Wanna Leave You" with that cool electronic piano and that weird,abrupt ending...the full-length version of "The Walk" with that hilarious skit at the end? We never would have gotten these things if the albums were the typical,10-song,45-minute album (remember,this was in the days of vinyl albums).
When Prince saw how well this concept worked,he wanted to make an album featuring his own long,extended versions.Thus,the '1999' album was born . [Edited 9/17/07 1:01am] | |
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funkpill said: madhouseman said: That was always my beef. That is why I wish that Prince would have not put International Lover on 1999 and kept Morris' vocals on it, and placed it on the 2nd album by The Time. If he'd have been more excited about this, he'd have added some of the additional Time tracks on the albums (Bold Generation, Dance 2 the Beat, Movie Star, etc.) to fill them out. I beg the differ my friends I loved the six long jams on each album... It became traditional Maybe that's why I'm not feeling Pandemonium that much. Overproduced and way too many interludes and such.. I tried to chop it down to six extended tunes to no avail. Can't listen to it long enough I agree! 'Pandemonium' would have worked better as a 6-song album.There are too many interludes and filler tracks.Imagine if this was the tracklist (the songs would be much longer): Pandemonium Jerkout Donald Trump (Black Version) It's Your World Sometimes I Get Lonely Chocolate That would have been a tigher,more focused Time album. | |
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SoulAlive said: funkpill said: I beg the differ my friends I loved the six long jams on each album... It became traditional Maybe that's why I'm not feeling Pandemonium that much. Overproduced and way too many interludes and such.. I tried to chop it down to six extended tunes to no avail. Can't listen to it long enough I agree! 'Pandemonium' would have worked better as a 6-song album.There are too many interludes and filler tracks.Imagine if this was the tracklist (the songs would be much longer): Pandemonium Jerkout Donald Trump (Black Version) It's Your World Sometimes I Get Lonely Chocolate That would have been a tigher,more focused Time album. My Summertime Thang should've been on that list.. Donald Trump (Black Version)??? | |
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SoulAlive said: I like the idea of putting only 6 songs on the Time albums.That way,we got those amazing LONG versions.Come on....the full-length version of "777-9311" with that lengthy guitar solo...the full-length version of "I Don't Wanna Leave You" with that cool electronic piano and that weird,abrupt ending...the full-length version of "The Walk" with that hilarious skit at the end? We never would have gotten these things if the albums were the typical,10-song,45-minute album (remember,this was in the days of vinyl albums).
When Prince saw how well this concept worked,he wanted to make an album featuring his own long,extended versions.Thus,the '1999' album was born . [Edited 9/17/07 1:01am] yup He did it on side one of Controversy too | |
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funkpill said: SoulAlive said: I like the idea of putting only 6 songs on the Time albums.That way,we got those amazing LONG versions.Come on....the full-length version of "777-9311" with that lengthy guitar solo...the full-length version of "I Don't Wanna Leave You" with that cool electronic piano and that weird,abrupt ending...the full-length version of "The Walk" with that hilarious skit at the end? We never would have gotten these things if the albums were the typical,10-song,45-minute album (remember,this was in the days of vinyl albums).
When Prince saw how well this concept worked,he wanted to make an album featuring his own long,extended versions.Thus,the '1999' album was born . yup He did it on side one of Controversy too | |
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funkpill said: SoulAlive said: I agree! 'Pandemonium' would have worked better as a 6-song album.There are too many interludes and filler tracks.Imagine if this was the tracklist (the songs would be much longer): Pandemonium Jerkout Donald Trump (Black Version) It's Your World Sometimes I Get Lonely Chocolate That would have been a tigher,more focused Time album. My Summertime Thang should've been on that list.. Donald Trump (Black Version)??? I like the idea of two slowjams and four uptempo tracks,like on the first album | |
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funkpill said: SoulAlive said: I agree! 'Pandemonium' would have worked better as a 6-song album.There are too many interludes and filler tracks.Imagine if this was the tracklist (the songs would be much longer): Pandemonium Jerkout Donald Trump (Black Version) It's Your World Sometimes I Get Lonely Chocolate That would have been a tigher,more focused Time album. My Summertime Thang should've been on that list.. Donald Trump (Black Version)??? My Summertime Thang? Don't you mean The Latest Fashion? “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: funkpill said: My Summertime Thang should've been on that list.. Donald Trump (Black Version)??? My Summertime Thang? Don't you mean The Latest Fashion? I have to listen to this cd again | |
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"The Latest Fashion" (on Prince's 'Graffiti Bridge' album) uses the same music as "Summertime Thing".That's why fans get those two songs confused | |
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