sosgemini said:

"Patterns,", eh? Hmmm. Y'know, I'm beginning to think age isn't the real issue you're having. I'll leave it at that.

Jezebel said:

and in english?

1sexymf said:

don't forget Nona Gaye. I read that there were whispers that she was 16 as well.

Jezebel said:

While I do agree with you that these young women made their own choices....

I have to wonder if Prince would have received the same pass regarding him developing a relationship with these girls if the girls were 16 year old sophomores in high school and Prince was just an average joe, 38 year old assistance manager at Best Buy...
would people still feel the same way about it? And then let's try this on for size...
this 38 year old average Joe does this not once, not twice but over and over again.
Would we still feel like the girls were "making their own choices" or would we begin to wonder if the man was a predator?

I am not saying this is the case with Prince because he does have extenuating circumstance,.. money and fame really does muddle the picture here... but I know if he was not Prince, or rich or famous... his azz would have been in court by now about this.

I think to deny this is ridiculous. I believe this is what SOS is pointing out.

prodigalfan said:

You could've stopped right here, because that point is more than enough.




Yes, they would. Men have always gotten a pass for dating younger women through the centuries. That is nothing new.





So? Your hypothetical sixteen year old, however foolish and unwise, still made her choice to be with the 38 year old. Like I told sosgemini, he did not put a gun to her head. Why does everyone choose to keep overlooking this obvious and glaring fact? Hmmm.




It really doesn't matter how you would feel about it, because it doesn't change the fact that these young girls made their choice. That little word "choice" is the BIG difference between consensual sex and rape. Furthermore, "predators" prey on victims to get something from them against their will. Let me repeat that. Against their will. I don't think Prince has ever been taken to court for anything like that, has he? No? That's what I thought.

Ultimately, at the end of the day, it's nobody's damned business WHO Prince dates.

sosgemini said:

FYI we are all born with a limited number of brain cells and as we grow older we actually lose them (we are unable to create anymore)
As for him dating kids that is untrue, I don't think Prince would jeopardise his career to date kids.

Jezebel said:

Actually most predators attempt to get the child to believe it is what they (the child) wants to do. In many cases, predators themselves believe this is what the child wants or that the child somehow coerced them by actions they've (the predators) misinterpreted. Also many states define a child as an individual that is UNDER the age of 18. And consensual sex doesn't make much difference if a parent wants to press the issue, it is for this reason that statuatory rape laws are on the book. A child of 16 engages in consensual sex with an 18 year old and that 18 year old can be tried for statuatory rape if the parents force the issue. However, given the definition of a child by many states, there are laws that are made to govern this situation if there is a age difference of greater than let's say 6 years. This greater age difference between the two consenting parties, when one is defined as a child, can in fact cause the older of the two to be tried for rape (not just statuatory rape). It is believed that this greater age difference creates an imbalance of power and a child (even 16 years of age) can be coerced by the older individual into thinking that what is occurring is consensual.

Just wanted to throw this information out there. However, I don't believe that Prince is a predator because there are extenuating circumstances for Prince with his fame and fortune that could actually place Prince in the role of victim if any of the parents of these girls saw an opportunity to take a "bite of the purple rock" so to speak. Also, Prince would need to engage in some kind of coercement with these girls, and his fame would almost negate that unless the court wanted to consider that his fame was coercement enough.

prodigalfan said:

Whatever happened when Mayte eventually moved to Minne I don't know. The part of the story that I always found odd was that her mother passed Prince a video tape of her teenage daughter dancing. I bring this up because I think the actions of a parent can greatly influence the "choices" a teenager makes. If I'm not mistaken Mayte has said that before that she really had no interest in Prince. So just based on what I've read, you have Mayte's mother paving her way to Minneapolis. Then you have Mani who paved her own way to Minneapolis. Personally, as a mother I would not have passed the tape to Prince. If my daughter had a dream of dancing for Prince or anyone else that would be up to her to achieve on her own and in her own time. Which I guess is what Mani did (although it did not involve dancing). I cannot comment on who loved who or who was cheating when and where. I will say that, based on photos only and even those up to the end of their relationship, Prince looks far more comfortable with Mayte and that Mayte looks more comfortable with Prince (than Mani does in any photo I've seen).

LittleRedCorvette said:

I don't either, and that's my whole point. I resented sosgemini trying to say that's what Prince was.

yeah mayte and prince were a cute couple i dont feel like it was a true love after all around the gold experience he was still messing with other women like nona gaye which was the time mayte and prince were engaged i would not like to see him with any old girlfriends someone new a real down to earth beautiful girl who TRULY loves him for him not for the fame or money and for the both of them be happy together a real "future baby mama just for him"

syrinx7 said:

I do agree that Mayte's mother's actions seem very suspect. As a mother of my own daughter now, it makes me feel a little ill to think that her mother set her up for a chance to hookup with Prince.
But there are women like that.
I just know, Prince or even the King of England..... a man in his 30s show interest in my 16 year old daughter.... my husband would kill him, and I would help him bury the body.

Jezebel said:

Actually I don't think Prince is a predator either given the extenuating circumstances as well. I just think it is psychologically and emotionally unhealthy for either Prince or these silly young underage girls to get involved. It just doesn't work.

And I do feel a little hypocritical becuase if this wasn't Prince, I would feel that his actions were predatory. I think the mere fact that Prince has fame fortune and admirations of thousands of fans makes him the exception here.
(That is my story and I am sticking to it. )

Jezebel said:

Sorry about the psycho-babble, a hazard of my career I'm afraid. I just wanted to address your comment that these girls made their "choice", because even 16 year old girls can be coerced and made to believe it was their choice, while really, deep down, screaming "no" within.

prodigalfan said:

Is it possible though that Mayte's mom passed the tape of Prince dancing only because she wanted to further her daughter's career as a dancer, not in an attempt to get her daughter "hooked up" with Prince? There are a lot of stage mom's who do everything they can to further their children's careers and can be very pushy, but I think (or like to think) they would draw the line at setting their children up in a relationship with a 'star'.

prodigalfan said:

Prince's actions do not fit the profile for a predator. I think he has a fascination with youth, and would need to address that fascination with youth and attraction to much younger women, if he were anyone else, in therapy, but he just does not fit the profile for a sexual predator.

Prince and Mayte really looked hot together.Like Elvis and Priscilla:)

After a stint with Tommy Lee, Mayte is tainted and not good enough for Prince. Vanity is crazy as hell but I always wanted to see them together. The one everybody would love to see is Sheila E since it is hard to tell if they were ever really together. Nona Gaye makes the most sense if I had to choose.

Brofie said:

you haven't been keeping up with Nona have you?

I don't think Prince should get back with any of his ex loves. He needs to move forward. What he does need to do however is have a hard long think why he picks the women he does otherwise he is just going to continue making the same bad choices.It's really in his hands if he wants a happy and healthy relationship or not. Yes he looked happy with Mayte but it wasn't true love, she was a young girl infactuated with him and he was a control freak that wanted to mould her. I hope one day Prince can have a healthy relationship that is based on equals but only time will tell.

sosgemini said:

Don't go there.

purpleoz said:

I TOTALY AGREE MY POINT EXCATLY!!!!! FORGET MAYTE AND ALL THE REST ITS TIME 2 MOVE ON!!!1

prodigalfan said:

...what's going on with Nona...I keep reading that...tried Google but came up empty handed...what's up?

Either Mayte or Susan Moonie(Vanity 6 member).