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Reply #30 posted 07/05/07 2:29pm

FarrahMoan

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They are alright. I think Prince praises them just a little to much, but I like em.

You gotta kinda blame that on the people/actual fans and fanatics of "Prince" that gave them a pretty exceptional reception, especially during "The 1999 Tour".
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Reply #31 posted 07/05/07 2:34pm

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Bringing a 'sore object' into here, knowing how much The Time is praised by devotees of the Minneapolis sound and people who are sentimental about the Purple Rain years.

But, to be clear, IMO The Time are the most overrated band to come out of the Prince camp. Why?

At first, especially on their first two albums allmost all the music was composed, written, arranged and played by Prince, with Morris on vocals. So why praise "The Time" for those albums?

The ballads released by The Time were toe-curlingy bad. Morris Day can spice up a catchy, cocky funk-riff, but when it comes to ballads he just sounds like a parody of a soul-singer.

The production on some of their songs sounds really cheesy. When you look at some of the older video's of the Time on Youtube, its almost painfull to see how dated they often sound.

Jam and Lewis might have been succesfull with their commercial branche of the Minneapolis sound but they sure didnt ad something substantial or classic to popular music is. Its probably their fault that they influenced some swedish producers, terrorising our charts with the likes of Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys.

No single member of The Time has outgrown himself. Morris day did get into coke and played roles in irritating B-movies, Nobody outside Minneapolis knows who Jesse Johnson is (and it better stays that way), Paul Petersons idea of a comeback is the reunion of The Family, a band that has no interest at all, apart from some die-hard Prince fans, Jerome is someone who can hold up a mirror and act goofy, so?

To put it in short: The Time is the most overrated band ever to come out of the Minneapolis / Prince camp, and to be honest, without Prince they were and are nothing.

hmm The funny thing about that is, sex....well, "GREAT, UNREMARKABLE SEX" usually has a tendency to induce "Toe-Curling". So, I don't know how to take that quoted statement in bold. neutral
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Reply #32 posted 07/05/07 2:38pm

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i like them!
i dont think they r overrated
i remember "back in the day" getting all excited when i listened 2 american top 40 - (all the way here in Tassie) and the time (or any associated artist 4 that matter) were charting woot! it was round PR time-

Oh, and i did get a litle excited over some other guy from minneapolis, Prince i think his name is wink lol
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #33 posted 07/05/07 4:03pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

Bringing a 'sore object' into here, knowing how much The Time is praised by devotees of the Minneapolis sound and people who are sentimental about the Purple Rain years.

But, to be clear, IMO The Time are the most overrated band to come out of the Prince camp. Why?

At first, especially on their first two albums allmost all the music was composed, written, arranged and played by Prince, with Morris on vocals. So why praise "The Time" for those albums?

The ballads released by The Time were toe-curlingy bad. Morris Day can spice up a catchy, cocky funk-riff, but when it comes to ballads he just sounds like a parody of a soul-singer.

The production on some of their songs sounds really cheesy. When you look at some of the older video's of the Time on Youtube, its almost painfull to see how dated they often sound.

Jam and Lewis might have been succesfull with their commercial branche of the Minneapolis sound but they sure didnt ad something substantial or classic to popular music is. Its probably their fault that they influenced some swedish producers, terrorising our charts with the likes of Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys.

No single member of The Time has outgrown himself. Morris day did get into coke and played roles in irritating B-movies, Nobody outside Minneapolis knows who Jesse Johnson is (and it better stays that way), Paul Petersons idea of a comeback is the reunion of The Family, a band that has no interest at all, apart from some die-hard Prince fans, Jerome is someone who can hold up a mirror and act goofy, so?

To put it in short: The Time is the most overrated band ever to come out of the Minneapolis / Prince camp, and to be honest, without Prince they were and are nothing.

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Reply #34 posted 07/05/07 6:04pm

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Riverpoet31, you still have not answered the question as to weather or not you've seen these guys live. Prince, being the control freak that he is, had them on lock down in the studio, but on stage in was pure raw talent. I saw these guys live for the first time opening for Prince during his Controversy Tour. Second time opening for Prince (along with Sheila E) during the Purple Rain Tour; once on their own and the last time as a suprise opening act on Princes Musicology Tour. In each case, the Time "nearly"...just nearly kicked Princes ass on stage. This wasn't just my opinion, but based on crowd reaction and word of mouth among others in attendance, it was a fact. Prince has even admitted this in many interviews as someone mentioned above. he felt that the Time was a great live band. Say what U want about Morris, but he knows how to get a crowd going..that's called having good showmanship which is a part of being a good band.Until you see them live, U don't have a leg to stand on with you comments!!!
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Reply #35 posted 07/05/07 6:15pm

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Outside of the Prince world, are they even rated that highly at all?

Think about it: the first 3 The Time albums came out during Prince's breakthrough era (1980-1984). He was on fire then, and anything associated with him was too - regardless of how good they were.

Also, think about this: their entire catalog would fit onto a 2-CD release. Not much of a "legacy" IMO.

They're enjoyable, but only because I know Prince is behind-the-scenes. Take Prince out of the equation, and they wouldn't hold up.
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Reply #36 posted 07/05/07 6:30pm

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Se7en said:

Outside of the Prince world, are they even rated that highly at all?

Think about it: the first 3 The Time albums came out during Prince's breakthrough era (1980-1984). He was on fire then, and anything associated with him was too - regardless of how good they were.

Also, think about this: their entire catalog would fit onto a 2-CD release. Not much of a "legacy" IMO.

They're enjoyable, but only because I know Prince is behind-the-scenes. Take Prince out of the equation, and they wouldn't hold up.

They R still touring today WITHOUT Prince. I saw them 2 years ago at a summer music festivel and they headlined the event (Great show). They were in my area again this year as headliner of another music fesival...without Prince!!! I don't think anyone here is saying these guys are some prolific band that will make some significant mark in musical history...just saying that they are a GREAT live band. Especially the origional line-up. You didn't mention that you ever saw them live...which tells me that your comments don't have a leg to stand on either! wink
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Reply #37 posted 07/05/07 6:36pm

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Reply #38 posted 07/05/07 6:48pm

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Why has this nonsense topic not yet been banished to the associated artists area?
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Reply #39 posted 07/05/07 6:53pm

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I first saw the time, in invetibly, Purple Rain.

I then and still find them 'old-fashioned', and 'out of date'.

I mean they had 2 hits, well not even 'chart hits'.

'The Bird' and 'Jungle Love'.

In 1984 they played them in Purple Rain, and then over 10 years later, the same shit in Rave 2000.

Exactly.

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Reply #40 posted 07/05/07 6:54pm

VonMarie

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runningbear said:

Why has this nonsense topic not yet been banished to the associated artists area?

As annoying as it is...it got you to read...and then post on top of that lol lol lol Go figure!!
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Reply #41 posted 07/05/07 8:13pm

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sambluedolphin said:

I first saw the time, in invetibly, Purple Rain.

I then and still find them 'old-fashioned', and 'out of date'.

I mean they had 2 hits, well not even 'chart hits'.

'The Bird' and 'Jungle Love'.

In 1984 they played them in Purple Rain, and then over 10 years later, the same shit in Rave 2000.

Exactly.

Sam 8)


And we all know that "hit songs" are the true and only barometer of music quality.
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Reply #42 posted 07/05/07 8:29pm

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Time = underrated.
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Reply #43 posted 07/05/07 8:33pm

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Reply #44 posted 07/05/07 8:45pm

datdude

I respect your opinion. However, you come off as some sort of troll in the belittling tone of your post. Are you deliberately trying to get folks riled up as a thread troll often does?


a thread troll, is THAT what they're called?! lol I LOVE the org!

its obvious he's never seen the Magnificent Seven live! the performaces in PR and even Rave don't do them justice. they like many talented artists didn't have a long career RECORDING wise, but don't get it twisted they WERE/ARE talented. you're probably one of those funk haters on the org too.
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Reply #45 posted 07/05/07 8:46pm

Sdldawn

they came to our fair a few years back.. i didn't even see them, and i think i was there!

so, that tells u how i give a flying flip about that act.
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Reply #46 posted 07/05/07 8:53pm

VonMarie

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Sdldawn said:

they came to our fair a few years back.. i didn't even see them, and i think i was there!

so, that tells u how i give a flying flip about that act.

Nope...it tells me you probably missed a "flying flippin" good show lol lol lol
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Reply #47 posted 07/05/07 8:56pm

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They're definitely the Milli Vanilli of bands, as far as their releases go.



But they do make up for it by being great live, when they're playing their instruments themselves.
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Reply #48 posted 07/05/07 9:35pm

thedoorkeeper

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Reply #49 posted 07/05/07 9:45pm

morningsong

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Riverpoet31 said:

Bringing a 'sore object' into here, knowing how much The Time is praised by devotees of the Minneapolis sound and people who are sentimental about the Purple Rain years.

But, to be clear, IMO The Time are the most overrated band to come out of the Prince camp. Why?

At first, especially on their first two albums allmost all the music was composed, written, arranged and played by Prince, with Morris on vocals. So why praise "The Time" for those albums?

The ballads released by The Time were toe-curlingy bad. Morris Day can spice up a catchy, cocky funk-riff, but when it comes to ballads he just sounds like a parody of a soul-singer.

The production on some of their songs sounds really cheesy. When you look at some of the older video's of the Time on Youtube, its almost painfull to see how dated they often sound.

Jam and Lewis might have been succesfull with their commercial branche of the Minneapolis sound but they sure didnt ad something substantial or classic to popular music is. Its probably their fault that they influenced some swedish producers, terrorising our charts with the likes of Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys.

No single member of The Time has outgrown himself. Morris day did get into coke and played roles in irritating B-movies, Nobody outside Minneapolis knows who Jesse Johnson is (and it better stays that way), Paul Petersons idea of a comeback is the reunion of The Family, a band that has no interest at all, apart from some die-hard Prince fans, Jerome is someone who can hold up a mirror and act goofy, so?

To put it in short: The Time is the most overrated band ever to come out of the Minneapolis / Prince camp, and to be honest, without Prince they were and are nothing.


u must have never seen them live
[Edited 7/5/07 11:52am]


They give a heckava concert don't they?
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Reply #50 posted 07/05/07 10:04pm

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Are you out of your bleeping mind. That drug you took must've derailed your brain. Not only is The Time one of the best funk bands of all time, they're one of the greatest bands of all time period! And with only a handful of albums to their credit, it makes them more legendary. So what if Prince had a hand in their career. Who hasn't had someone backing them up. Can you imagine? Bootsy without George? Janet without Jimmy and Terry? Eminem without Dre? Elvis without the Col.? Rock & Roll without American Bandstand? So the point is simple. Everybody needs a stepping stone to start off and the Time rocks. Nuff' said!
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Reply #51 posted 07/05/07 10:07pm

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LoDog said:

Are you out of your bleeping mind. That drug you took must've derailed your brain. Not only is The Time one of the best funk bands of all time, they're one of the greatest bands of all time period! And with only a handful of albums to their credit, it makes them more legendary. So what if Prince had a hand in their career. Who hasn't had someone backing them up. Can you imagine? Bootsy without George? Janet without Jimmy and Terry? Eminem without Dre? Elvis without the Col.? Rock & Roll without American Bandstand? So the point is simple. Everybody needs a steppint stone to start off and the Time rocks. Nuff' said!


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Reply #52 posted 07/05/07 10:38pm

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LoDog said:

Are you out of your bleeping mind. That drug you took must've derailed your brain. Not only is The Time one of the best funk bands of all time, they're one of the greatest bands of all time period! And with only a handful of albums to their credit, it makes them more legendary. So what if Prince had a hand in their career. Who hasn't had someone backing them up. Can you imagine? Bootsy without George? Janet without Jimmy and Terry? Eminem without Dre? Elvis without the Col.? Rock & Roll without American Bandstand? So the point is simple. Everybody needs a stepping stone to start off and the Time rocks. Nuff' said!
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considering Prince wrote and recorded almost everything on their albums himself, I'd say it goes beyond "a hand in their career." He brought Morris in to re-record the lead vocal, and in most cases that was the only involvement "the band" had in their own albums (until Pandemonium).
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Reply #53 posted 07/05/07 10:56pm

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sambluedolphin said:

I first saw the time, in invetibly, Purple Rain.

I then and still find them 'old-fashioned', and 'out of date'.

I mean they had 2 hits, well not even 'chart hits'.

'The Bird' and 'Jungle Love'.

In 1984 they played them in Purple Rain, and then over 10 years later, the same shit in Rave 2000.

Exactly.

Sam 8)

Only 2 hits??? Man, U need to get out more. Either that or do a little more homework. The Time had a string of R&B hits back in the day: Get It Up; Cool; 777-9311; Wild & Loose; Giggilos Get Lonely Too; Ice Cream Castles; Jungle Love and The Bird just to name a few. The fact that U think they only had 2 hits shows that your comments R razz chair
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Reply #54 posted 07/06/07 12:46am

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Damn...I CAN'T even respond to this nonsense...Oh, ..I just did.
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Reply #55 posted 07/06/07 1:24am

Jochem

FuNkeNsteiN said:

hmmm
Overrated? Perhaps.
A crappy band? Hell no.

Exactly, They are great performers, but without Prince I think they wouldn't have gotten very far in the buisiness.
Personally I like artists that write a substantial part of their songs.
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Reply #56 posted 07/06/07 2:20am

SoulAlive

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Damn...I CAN'T even respond to this nonsense...Oh, ..I just did.


lol I know what you mean,bro.I was gonna type up an angry response,but why even bother?
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Reply #57 posted 07/06/07 11:25am

Riverpoet31

To give an answer: No, i did never see them live, so i cant judge them on that level.

Second: i did write down my thoughts in a troll-like manner purposely because i think some people here tend to give The Time more praise then they really deserve, and they write that down in a way that often makes me think... umm, really?

To put it clear: The Time are of course no crappy band, i was exeggerating purposely. They were okay, released some nice funk tracks in the eigthies, their ballads, as i said, are too cheesy and bad for me.

But, just as with most other former Prince protegees it seems like most members off the Time didnt succeed in 'getting a career' for themself. And with that i dont mean, selling millions of albums even, but creating their own style, delivering quality music without the help of Prince. I mean: what happened to Taja Sevelle? to Appolonia? to Mazzerati? to Kirk Johnson?

The simple fact that The Time (or Morris day and some other musicians) are still touring with old material, mostly written by Prince tells something.
And look at Jesse Johnson or Paul Peterson. Of course, i was exeggerating when i said they are just known in Minneapolis, but the truth is also: Jesse didnt released a (good album) in years and years, and Paul Peterson is also maintainig a career built on 'old fame' (one album, produced, written and played by Prince) by performing in, yes, Minneapolis with 'the Truth'.

So, to put it short: No, the Time arent really crappy, but they are often way overrated. People are praising them like they are the next big thing in funk after Parliament or Funkadelic, and sorry, but no, they are not in that range.
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Reply #58 posted 07/06/07 11:28am

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VonMarie said:

Se7en said:

Outside of the Prince world, are they even rated that highly at all?

Think about it: the first 3 The Time albums came out during Prince's breakthrough era (1980-1984). He was on fire then, and anything associated with him was too - regardless of how good they were.

Also, think about this: their entire catalog would fit onto a 2-CD release. Not much of a "legacy" IMO.

They're enjoyable, but only because I know Prince is behind-the-scenes. Take Prince out of the equation, and they wouldn't hold up.

They R still touring today WITHOUT Prince. I saw them 2 years ago at a summer music festivel and they headlined the event (Great show). They were in my area again this year as headliner of another music fesival...without Prince!!! I don't think anyone here is saying these guys are some prolific band that will make some significant mark in musical history...just saying that they are a GREAT live band. Especially the origional line-up. You didn't mention that you ever saw them live...which tells me that your comments don't have a leg to stand on either! wink
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Nope, I've never seen them live. You got me there. rolleyes

But I have all 4 original albums and it's just not a lot of material to keep touring with over and over.
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Reply #59 posted 07/06/07 12:24pm

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The Time are definately the best group to ever come from the Prince camp. They are definately the hardest and funkiest.

While you are talking about people not remembering folks like Jesse Johnson, there are many R&B fans that weren't even into Prince that loved Jesse Johnson's music and they still remember the songs. Everyone remembers The Time's songs when they hear them also. The Time is THE most remembered group to ever come from the Prince camp. No, the pop fans won't remember them because they only knew "The Bird" or "Jungle Love" because of the "Purple Rain" movie. However.....the R&B fans will definately remember all the jams like "Cool", "777-9311", "The Stick", "The Walk" because they were a huge part of R&B radio back in the day. As far as the pop fans remembering, hell no they wouldn't because these jams weren't played on pop radio.
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