BlaqueKnight said: sosgemini said: I am flattered that you think i am straight...but i am not. thats how a real man responds. "I don't know you well enough to be discussing my personal life" is an even better response. People always feel they are entitled to know personal things about celebrities' sexual lives. You can't get mad if the answer isn't what you'd want it to be. In truth, people should never ask in the first place...unless they are porn stars. I think its okay then. i would have dug that...and your right, he (and all celebrities) have a right to a certain level of privacy...i was never asking for clarification from the man....in fact, i didnt care *until* he responded...and it was the responce that turned me off. anyone know where that thread went? or was it hidden? Space for sale... | |
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BlaqueKnight said: sosgemini said: I am flattered that you think i am straight...but i am not. thats how a real man responds. "I don't know you well enough to be discussing my personal life" is an even better response. People always feel they are entitled to know personal things about celebrities' sexual lives. You can't get mad if the answer isn't what you'd want it to be. In truth, people should never ask in the first place...unless they are porn stars. I think its okay then. Get up, come on, let's do something... | |
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DMSR1671 said: BlaqueKnight said: "I don't know you well enough to be discussing my personal life" is an even better response. People always feel they are entitled to know personal things about celebrities' sexual lives. You can't get mad if the answer isn't what you'd want it to be. In truth, people should never ask in the first place...unless they are porn stars. I think its okay then. please note that blaqueknights responce was 100X more tactful then Jeromes. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: SoulAlive said: Jerome Benton also visits this site.He actually got pissed at something he read here last year. yeah...which was downright stupid and childish. i lost all respect for the man when i found out how childish he got over his sexuallity being questioned... i will never buy anything that benefits that punk ass b*tch again. hope he reads this... I missed that one, but I do remember him bitching us out at the Brooklyn screening of PR last spring, which I thought was pretty tacky. See this thread: http://www.prince.org/msg/5/175831 I totally lost any respect for him after that--a lot of people went to show their love for The Time and he scolded us (e.g. Orgers); which, coming from a guy who made a career (if you want to call it that) by following someone around holding a mirror was pretty arrogant, imho. | |
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Straight men don't like to have our sexuality questioned. While some of us have experience in addressing the issue and expressing ourselves without offending too many people, some people will always react negatively and be arrogant about it. Honestly though, the org can be pretty hard on the Prince camp. Its no surprise that some people would get upset. IF he's a rational thinker, he'll know that most of the org has love for him and the Time and will in the future, concern himself less with the negative and more with the positive. | |
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DevotedPuppy said: I missed that one, but I do remember him bitching us out at the Brooklyn screening of PR last spring, which I thought was pretty tacky. See this thread: http://www.prince.org/msg/5/175831 thats the same one...and get a hold of this classic back and forth: laurarichardson said: sosgemini said: why is he offended that people think he is gay? he should be happy folks are thinking about his arse at all.. j/k seriously though....people questioning your sexuality isnt a negative..well at least not anymore..he should feel flattered, clarify and go on living his life. postively. ----- I do not know of any hetrosexual brothers who think people questioning their sexuality is a positive. What world are you on? sosgemini said: one without medication...and you? Space for sale... | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Straight men don't like to have our sexuality questioned. While some of us have experience in addressing the issue and expressing ourselves without offending too many people, some people will always react negatively and be arrogant about it. Honestly though, the org can be pretty hard on the Prince camp. Its no surprise that some people would get upset. IF he's a rational thinker, he'll know that most of the org has love for him and the Time and will in the future, concern himself less with the negative and more with the positive.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! KUDOS! U STEP ON A LAND MINE U GET YOUR LEG BLOWN OFF!!! Get up, come on, let's do something... | |
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DMSR1671 said: BlaqueKnight said: Straight men don't like to have our sexuality questioned. While some of us have experience in addressing the issue and expressing ourselves without offending too many people, some people will always react negatively and be arrogant about it. Honestly though, the org can be pretty hard on the Prince camp. Its no surprise that some people would get upset. IF he's a rational thinker, he'll know that most of the org has love for him and the Time and will in the future, concern himself less with the negative and more with the positive.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! KUDOS! U STEP ON A LAND MINE U GET YOUR LEG BLOWN OFF!!! wait a minute...so you think its okay to act like a jerk just because a couple idiots were getting personal? its not like i or any other gay person on the org asked jerome if he were gay...in fact, i bet the majority of folks forgot about the thread in question. *he* made it an issue. there should never be justification for homophobia. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: DMSR1671 said: YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! KUDOS! U STEP ON A LAND MINE U GET YOUR LEG BLOWN OFF!!! wait a minute...so you think its okay to act like a jerk just because a couple idiots were getting personal? its not like i or any other gay person on the org asked jerome if he were gay...in fact, i bet the majority of folks forgot about the thread in question. *he* made it an issue. there should never be justification for homophobia. Homophobia? Fear of gays? Since I don't know exactly what was said, I can't comment directly but why would he get an attitude about it if his sexuality wasn't being questioned? How exactly did he "flip out"? Oh, and some people do view homosexuality as negative, you know? This is a primarily Christian country and its not surprising when there is a negative reaction to homosexuality. Its not fear as the misnomer "homophobic" implies; its people acting on what they believe in - the words of the Bible. Why are you acting like this is some new thing? Did he attack people personally or did he attack homosexuality? What exactly was his offense? With the way the org dogs the Prince camp, its still not surprising that he was pissed about something written here. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: sosgemini said: wait a minute...so you think its okay to act like a jerk just because a couple idiots were getting personal? its not like i or any other gay person on the org asked jerome if he were gay...in fact, i bet the majority of folks forgot about the thread in question. *he* made it an issue. there should never be justification for homophobia. Homophobia? Fear of gays? Since I don't know exactly what was said, I can't comment directly but why would he get an attitude about it if his sexuality wasn't being questioned? How exactly did he "flip out"? Oh, and some people do view homosexuality as negative, you know? This is a primarily Christian country and its not surprising when there is a negative reaction to homosexuality. Its not fear as the misnomer "homophobic" implies; its people acting on what they believe in - the words of the Bible. Why are you acting like this is some new thing? Did he attack people personally or did he attack homosexuality? What exactly was his offense? With the way the org dogs the Prince camp, its still not surprising that he was pissed about something written here. yeah...and if folks view homosexuality as a negative i have every right not to support them. economics 101. and his office was judging an entire website based on a simple question and publicly chastising folks for being a part of the site based on the very few. it was childish, immature and IMHO slightly homophobic. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: BlaqueKnight said: Homophobia? Fear of gays? Since I don't know exactly what was said, I can't comment directly but why would he get an attitude about it if his sexuality wasn't being questioned? How exactly did he "flip out"? Oh, and some people do view homosexuality as negative, you know? This is a primarily Christian country and its not surprising when there is a negative reaction to homosexuality. Its not fear as the misnomer "homophobic" implies; its people acting on what they believe in - the words of the Bible. Why are you acting like this is some new thing? Did he attack people personally or did he attack homosexuality? What exactly was his offense? With the way the org dogs the Prince camp, its still not surprising that he was pissed about something written here. yeah...and if folks view homosexuality as a negative i have every right not to support them. economics 101. and his office was judging an entire website based on a simple question and publicly chastising folks for being a part of the site based on the very few. it was childish, immature and IMHO slightly homophobic. You have every right not to support whomever you don't want for whatever reason you choose. Its your money. I still think our society has become so voyeuristic that we feel that we need to know every little thing about artists and we need to connect with them on many levels so badly that we are overly judgemental, and misguidedly so. (I'm not trying to imply that this is one of those cases; I'm just making a point). I know some of the artists that I like probably don't like black people but if I spend time trying to eliminate everybody I don't agree with from my playlist, I won't have any music that I like. I think people should learn to separate what people do from who they are unless its life threatening. (You of course wouldn't want a child molester for a babysitter) A redneck does my plumbing. He's a self-professed "good ol' boy" and probably doesn't care for me that much but he likes money and I like running water. We don't talk. he does his job; I pay him. Back to Jerome. As I stated, he should focus on the positives rather than the few negative but like most self-absorbed people, he chose to have issue with the few rather than the masses of fans who like him. That's on him. I still don't understand how he "flipped out" but I wasn't there. | |
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And at this point this subject should probably cease discussion. Unless Jerome or any other associated artist can speak their side to any situation, its really not fair to demonize anyone. It's especially not cool to use a public website to villanize any person, celebrity or not. Whatever the exchange was or wasn't it was in the past. And yeah there are more than a few people within that organization that come here, read and respond to whats posted.
Imagine if someone picked apart your personal life or posted private pictures of your kids or a sick relative. Wouldn't you feel violated? Stage time and performance time is just that, for stage and perfomance. When the lights go out, they are normal people that should be given the same luxuries we have as everyday people. Everyone should move on to something more positive to discuss and be productive. We spend too much time tearing down people and trying to prove why they are the scum of the Earth instead of trying to love people as children of God. Life is waaaay too short and too precious for that. Why You Jive Turkey You.... | |
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sosgemini said: SoulAlive said: Jerome Benton also visits this site.He actually got pissed at something he read here last year. yeah...which was downright stupid and childish. i lost all respect for the man when i found out how childish he got over his sexuallity being questioned... i will never buy anything that benefits that punk ass b*tch again. hope he reads this... How do you guys actually know it was him? It could be some poser. ANYONE can become a member on this site and claim they are Jerome or any other person associated with Prince for that matter. How did any of these people (Jerome, Jesse, Wendy etc) prove themselves? | |
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I always figured some body in the camp was reading threads. That's why a looong time ago when people were hating on Tamar, I posted my first thread 'sending Tamar some positivity.' I thought she was nice and a great performer, so I wanted her to see something nice.
I also have met a lot of folks now (one or two degrees from P, it's laughable how close I am without actually speaking to the brotha), who have very convincing info about the people you are curious about reading around here. That's why I wouldn't name drop as often as some folks do (not speaking of anyone in particular...it's a generalization). Especially when you have had just a one time encounter. People love to say who they met and are cool with. Unless ya'll meet up, talk on the phone or at least email each other...you are just another person the celebrity or the celebrity's people were nice to. Although, if you didn't exchange contact info...if, at the next encounter the celeb sees you and calls you over to speak to him/her or s/he walks up to you, you are down. [Edited 5/13/07 6:43am] | |
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lizlampkin said: I also have met a lot of folks now (one or two degrees from P, it's laughable how close I am without actually speaking to the brotha), who have very convincing info about the people you are curious about reading around here. What that said...Jesse, I have always had a crush on you!!! I love a brotha with the confidence to wear head to toe pink. Plus your guitar playing is sick! But don't try to holla at me because I am married "Little cute guitar player make your momma proud..." | |
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Tonylover said: sosgemini said: yeah...which was downright stupid and childish. i lost all respect for the man when i found out how childish he got over his sexuallity being questioned... i will never buy anything that benefits that punk ass b*tch again. hope he reads this... How do you guys actually know it was him? It could be some poser. ANYONE can become a member on this site and claim they are Jerome or any other person associated with Prince for that matter. How did any of these people (Jerome, Jesse, Wendy etc) prove themselves? wendy laughed about a thread to a crowd after one of their shows...see folks, thats how you handle false rumors...SHE LAUGHED IT OFF!!! so thats how we know wendy has at least seen one thread here. and check the above linked thread to see jerome's tacky ass self address the org phenom. and then michael bland had a series of org threads last year... those are the only ones i am willing to attest to. Space for sale... | |
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DJJillMonroe said: And at this point this subject should probably cease discussion. Unless Jerome or any other associated artist can speak their side to any situation, its really not fair to demonize anyone. It's especially not cool to use a public website to villanize any person, celebrity or not. Whatever the exchange was or wasn't it was in the past. And yeah there are more than a few people within that organization that come here, read and respond to whats posted.
Imagine if someone picked apart your personal life or posted private pictures of your kids or a sick relative. Wouldn't you feel violated? Stage time and performance time is just that, for stage and perfomance. When the lights go out, they are normal people that should be given the same luxuries we have as everyday people. Everyone should move on to something more positive to discuss and be productive. We spend too much time tearing down people and trying to prove why they are the scum of the Earth instead of trying to love people as children of God. Life is waaaay too short and too precious for that. | |
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I went back and read the posts that were in question and I could understand Jerome's feelings. I don't think he got upset so much that people questioned his sexuality, but the fact that there was so much conviction behind what was said from some of the people. There were people believing they "knew" he was gay or he acted "gay" in UTCM, even going on to speak about how crappy his performance was in UTCM and that he's just a "yes man" to Prince and Morris. I think anyone, celebrity or not, would get mad and have something to say if people were saying a bunch of harsh stuff. I'm sure Jerome had to deal with a lot being a member of the Prince camp, so he's most likely not going to allow people to diss him and not have something to say about it. May not have been very professional of him, but hey, that's how he chose to respond.
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LadyQ said: I went back and read the posts that were in question and I could understand Jerome's feelings. I don't think he got upset so much that people questioned his sexuality, but the fact that there was so much conviction behind what was said from some of the people. There were people believing they "knew" he was gay or he acted "gay" in UTCM, even going on to speak about how crappy his performance was in UTCM and that he's just a "yes man" to Prince and Morris. I think anyone, celebrity or not, would get mad and have something to say if people were saying a bunch of harsh stuff. I'm sure Jerome had to deal with a lot being a member of the Prince camp, so he's most likely not going to allow people to diss him and not have something to say about it. May not have been very professional of him, but hey, that's how he chose to respond.
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lizlampkin said: I always figured some body in the camp was reading threads. That's why a looong time ago when people were hating on Tamar, I posted my first thread 'sending Tamar some positivity.' I thought she was nice and a great performer, so I wanted her to see something nice.
I also have met a lot of folks now (one or two degrees from P, it's laughable how close I am without actually speaking to the brotha), who have very convincing info about the people you are curious about reading around here. That's why I wouldn't name drop as often as some folks do (not speaking of anyone in particular...it's a generalization). Especially when you have had just a one time encounter. People love to say who they met and are cool with. Unless ya'll meet up, talk on the phone or at least email each other...you are just another person the celebrity or the celebrity's people were nice to. Although, if you didn't exchange contact info...if, at the next encounter the celeb sees you and calls you over to speak to him/her or s/he walks up to you, you are down. [Edited 5/13/07 6:43am] Sometimes it's not about whether or not the people themselves are on here... we don't know who is friends with whom and shares info with them... "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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