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Reply #60 posted 04/20/07 8:04pm

xplnyrslf

treniselove said:

xplnyrslf said:

AND with all due respect.....I firmly believe being married to Prince would be a pain in the ass. My sage perspective.
Mayte? Mani? GF's?
I also believe having a relationship with some one you work for is a bad idea. Marriage requires a level of equality. I don't think that existed in either marriage.


I fully agree with you on that note. Having relationships in the same workplace is useless. Unless you can keep it on the downlow but in some cases it doesn't work that way.


In MOST cases, no downlow about it. And if there's a breakup? no taking it elsewhere....
In my environment where I've worked 25+ years, I've experienced inconveniences, and watched while extremely competent professionals have had their career on the line over a scorned co-worker.

Back to topic. I have a feeling Prince absolutely loves the women he has relationships with. However long it lasts.
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Reply #61 posted 04/21/07 12:33am

PurpleAlegria

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Too many people on here is always criticizing the women that were in Prince's life. Prince is no angel and it about time some of you realized that. People are saying mauela is a home wrecker, but remember Prince was dating Nona gaye and sneaking around with Mayte.Prince does not always practices what he preach .Prince is not some innocent person that women has taken advantage of him.He just one day just came and told Nona Gaye that he is engaed to Mayte.There who lot of other women he has slept around while he was married. There has always beeen this rumor for years that Prince only liked light skin women, not true at all. There is a certain actress who is a dark skin black american who messed around with him. To this day Prince still calls her but she screens his calls because he was just too much for (well endowed lol! and he wore her out)this actress is not a major actress but has played in a few major movies. I say all of these because too many people make out to be like he is god, in other words Prince is a hot mess( i mean that in a good way) i do not think he should marry again because he likes to get around , personally he should just do his thang with out any commitment to anyone, because he is not faithful to any one. Prince is going to be Prince regardless!


Prince and Nona were NOT married!!... but Prince and Mayte were...that is the main diffrence. Any woman who will see a man with a wife, and still go after him the way she did is not a woman at all, but a home wrecking HO. Especially after losing Gregory the way they did and knowing that there were relationship problems, it is almost predatory to take advantage of that situation. It says alot about her that she did. Disgusting!! How could she sleep at night? I sure could not. But what goes around comes around. How a woman believes a man will be faithful to her after she was cheating with him while he was with another woman is beyond me. Stupid....

Now to Prince, yes of course he is at fault as much as Mani here, and I am not excusing him at all. It just seems that he cannot be faithful, and thats fine. But if that is the case, he should not be married, and should stay single. Its just that simple. Its unfair and terrible for his poor wives. Its sad because at least what we can see through the lyrics to his music, he really wants to be a good man and a faithful husband, but he is just not there yet. Hopefully one day he will be.
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Reply #62 posted 04/21/07 12:44am

PurpleAlegria

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It has a lot to do with Prince , we do not how she really got with him. Prince is a manipulating freak so, is always going after those little young girls. If she did used him it was mutual thang .If she did then i say good for her because he has screwed over alot people in the business and other women as well.I am sure she did not put a gun to bis head and told him that he was going to marry her.You need look at the situation on the other side as well he used and fame and fortune to get her. if he was regular joe on the street do you really think he would have had her.. hell no!!!!! That is why i say if she did used him it was a mutual thang, they used each other to some point.its no more different than Britany and Kevin, she took him away from his family. A part of her had to know that he was after her money whether she wanted to beleive it or not. Karma is a mother! What comes around, goes around!!!! Who ever said being a opurtunist is a bad thing?, it all depends on the situation.I think a lot of people on here , are not even being honest with themselves. I will be totally honest if was opurtunist, good , because if it was me i would have been also.the celebrities need think more wisely who they married like Paul McCarthy I bet he has learn his lesson now after paying out all that money to his ex-wife.
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For some reason I don't think she was after his money at all, at least not a first. From what I understand, she was huge fan, and probably just wanted him at first, like most of us on here. lol Can't say that I blame her. I think after she found out that he was cheating on her (at least thats what I hear, or at least she thought he was but I could be wrong)she probably went after the money for revenge.
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Reply #63 posted 04/21/07 3:14am

kyla

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wonder505 said:

Mani has now changed her status on her mypage to single and removed "Nelson" from her gamillah page.

I started wondering if things are gonna get back to normal, bringing back fanclub, tour,shows. then I realize how awful I am...divorce is a sad process and I'm thinking about a tour. boxed


It's ok to feel that way. You're a Prince fan not a Mani fan. I like Mani very much but Prince is Prince.
He's also spotted with a new girlfriend already and will probably get bored very fast.

...So who's this new girlfriend he's been spotted with,can anyone tell me??
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Reply #64 posted 04/21/07 5:32am

malbena

kyla said:

malbena said:



It's ok to feel that way. You're a Prince fan not a Mani fan. I like Mani very much but Prince is Prince.
He's also spotted with a new girlfriend already and will probably get bored very fast.

...So who's this new girlfriend he's been spotted with,can anyone tell me??



So far, it's just rumors. At the Rio, he was having dinner with the same girlfriend that came with him to Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago. They went to Bunker's. They described her as stunning, long dark hair...
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Reply #65 posted 04/21/07 7:50pm

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malbena said:

kyla said:


...So who's this new girlfriend he's been spotted with,can anyone tell me??



So far, it's just rumors. At the Rio, he was having dinner with the same girlfriend that came with him to Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago. They went to Bunker's. They described her as stunning, long dark hair...


WOW!! He's never been with a woman that looked like THAT before. rolleyes

boxed O.K., just being petty. . .
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Reply #66 posted 04/22/07 6:59pm

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malbena said:

kyla said:


...So who's this new girlfriend he's been spotted with,can anyone tell me??



So far, it's just rumors. At the Rio, he was having dinner with the same girlfriend that came with him to Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago. They went to Bunker's. They described her as stunning, long dark hair...


Could this chick being described be Nichole S from Pussycat dolls? I saw her and thought to myself "there goes P's future wife". LOL I know that she has been seen with him a few times....
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Reply #67 posted 04/22/07 8:14pm

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PurpleAlegria said:

malbena said:




So far, it's just rumors. At the Rio, he was having dinner with the same girlfriend that came with him to Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago. They went to Bunker's. They described her as stunning, long dark hair...


Could this chick being described be Nichole S from Pussycat dolls? I saw her and thought to myself "there goes P's future wife". LOL I know that she has been seen with him a few times....


Goes to show you what I know. I thought the Pussycat Dolls were a group of transvestites.
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Reply #68 posted 04/23/07 8:49am

malbena

PurpleAlegria said:

malbena said:




So far, it's just rumors. At the Rio, he was having dinner with the same girlfriend that came with him to Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago. They went to Bunker's. They described her as stunning, long dark hair...


Could this chick being described be Nichole S from Pussycat dolls? I saw her and thought to myself "there goes P's future wife". LOL I know that she has been seen with him a few times....


When Girl66 called Bunker's to verify if he had been there last month, they said he was with his girlfriend without mentionning who she was. I'm guessing they know who Nicole from Pussycat is... not sure.
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Reply #69 posted 04/23/07 10:35am

morningsong

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I semi agree.
although, I don't care for Susannah too much. I guess I just never understood her.


I still think Susannah was the one he loved the most. (but then again, what do I know lol !) And she was the last serious relationship he was in that began before becoming massively famous (i.e. pre-Purple Rain) so I think that says something about her as well. It had to be one of the most difficult times to be in a serious relationship with a person who may not be particularly good at intimacy. I 100% believe she truly loved him. I'm not saying they were/are but all who have followed could then be questioned as an "opportunist".

as far as this argument about Manuela, I wasn't keeping up with P news regularly when they met, but from what I've gathered- she sought him out, moved to his state, knew exactly what he was about, and will now be a millionaire. That's all I'm going to say about that. (Except to point out that I think he makes it pretty clear in certain lines of both Fury and Guitar).


Ooo, which lyrics? I'm not tight on all the lyric information. It would be interesting to know.
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Reply #70 posted 04/23/07 2:38pm

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xplnyrslf said:

PurpleAlegria said:



Could this chick being described be Nichole S from Pussycat dolls? I saw her and thought to myself "there goes P's future wife". LOL I know that she has been seen with him a few times....


Goes to show you what I know. I thought the Pussycat Dolls were a group of transvestites.


falloff falloff

Hilarious.
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #71 posted 04/23/07 6:34pm

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paisley16 said:




(Except to point out that I think he makes it pretty clear in certain lines of both Fury and Guitar).


Ooo, which lyrics? I'm not tight on all the lyric information. It would be interesting to know.


well, primarily, I just think both songs point to his workaholic nature and how no woman will ever come between him and his music.
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Reply #72 posted 04/24/07 2:24pm

morningsong

paisley16 said:

morningsong said:



Ooo, which lyrics? I'm not tight on all the lyric information. It would be interesting to know.


well, primarily, I just think both songs point to his workaholic nature and how no woman will ever come between him and his music.


Yeah, I agree. He kind of said something to that fact in an interview years ago, I'm sure he tries to be honest about it.
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Reply #73 posted 04/24/07 6:46pm

paisley16

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paisley16 said:



well, primarily, I just think both songs point to his workaholic nature and how no woman will ever come between him and his music.


Yeah, I agree. He kind of said something to that fact in an interview years ago, I'm sure he tries to be honest about it.


to me the funny thing is that I don't think he ever really addressed that topic so directly before. i.e. none of his previous "break-up" period written songs covered it but you know it had to be in play. Some have said the lyrics to Guitar were "too simple", but I think maybe not. Maybe this is an issue he only recently has come to terms with.....
(okay, I'll stop armchair analyzing now, lol lol )
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Reply #74 posted 04/24/07 8:01pm

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sosgemini said:

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Oh my gosh you guys...
Manuela is just about the nicest person you could ever meet, same as Mayte!
I can understand your points of view (especially if you've never met them...), but don't forget they sometimes come here too. You're going to hurt their feelings- the same way everybody calling Jerome gay upset him. The world is a cold place as it is and everybody deserves understanding. Please be kind to each other and remember too that they are likely witnessing this conversation.



in the post 9/11 world questioning if someone is "gay" should not elicit any emotion. there are far worst things to be called and its silly that folks would get "upset" over it...

and im sorry but cha know, i don't give a rats arse how nice someone is...if they are utilizing their celebrity for personal gain then its fair use...and she needs to just deal with it...

or maybe she shouldn't have put on another woman's dress and man...she then could have avoided the assumptions and wealth.

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in the post 9/11 world questioning if someone is "gay" should not elicit any emotion. there are far worst things to be called and its silly that folks would get "upset" over it

That is how you feel. Is someone called you gay perhaps it would not upset you but, you can't speak for someone else. I also don't understand why anyone would want to be called if they are not.
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Reply #75 posted 04/27/07 6:28am

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Let's look at it this way: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A HOME-WRECKER." Not a damn soul can blame any man or woman for wrecking a home or breaking up a marriage. If the spouse did not play along with the so-called wrecker, there would be no problems. It takes TWO to tango, folks. However, I believe in human nature. Folks get curious and bored sometimes. Say a man or woman has an affair outside of the marriage; it doesn't necessarily mean that they want to continue in a serious relationship with that person. BUT, if they get caught, got to pay the Piper, baby. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Simple as that.

As far as Prince and his marriages are concerned, "tain't none my bidness." BUT, if he were to ask my humble opinion, I would give him the same advice his father gave him in the movie PR, but with a little twist, "Never get married....again."
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Reply #76 posted 04/27/07 9:05am

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or maybe she shouldn't have put on another woman's dress and man...she then could have avoided the assumptions and wealth.

lol


okay since this thread still lives, can someone please tell me what this dress story is all about? I wasn't keeping up with the news during that time period. enquiring minds have got to know! biggrin
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Reply #77 posted 04/27/07 9:35am

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paisley16 said:

sosgemini said:



or maybe she shouldn't have put on another woman's dress and man...she then could have avoided the assumptions and wealth.

lol


okay since this thread still lives, can someone please tell me what this dress story is all about? I wasn't keeping up with the news during that time period. enquiring minds have got to know! biggrin


Yeah, what's that all about?
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Reply #78 posted 04/27/07 9:53am

cole

If I am correct the dress they are referring to would be the the red dress Mayte wore I think to the NAACP Image awards. Prince actually presented an award to a gentalman that took in I think 6 or 8 foster children. I still have the show on video. I must say both Prince and Mayte looked awesome. Now right before the divorce was annouced between Prince and Mani, I am not sure where they were but Mani was wearing a red dress as well and it does kind of look like the same dress that Mayte wore, however I am sure it was not the same dress. I think both pictures are here in the gallery. Prince is in a Ivory outfit and Mayte is in the red dress. The picture with Prince and Mani they are matching he is in a black suit red shirt and Mani is wearing the red dress they are referring to. Again I think this is what they are talking about. I hope that helped.
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Reply #79 posted 04/27/07 10:02am

cole

Ok the picture of Mani and Prince is located here in the gallery. The picture is from Clive Davis Pre-Grammy Party in 2005. Trying to locate the picture of Mayte and Prince for those that are curious about the dress.
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Reply #80 posted 04/27/07 10:15am

paisley16

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cole said:

Now right before the divorce was annouced between Prince and Mani, I am not sure where they were but Mani was wearing a red dress as well and it does kind of look like the same dress that Mayte wore, however I am sure it was not the same dress. I think both pictures are here in the gallery. Prince is in a Ivory outfit and Mayte is in the red dress. The picture with Prince and Mani they are matching he is in a black suit red shirt and Mani is wearing the red dress they are referring to. Again I think this is what they are talking about. I hope that helped.


I see the one of Mani in a red dress in the gallery but not one of Mayte. confused

have to say though, I expected a "juicier" story. I was thinking it was a reference to her wearing Mayte's dress prior to him divorcing Mayte. Each of them showing up years apart in a similar dress is far less interesting. lol
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Reply #81 posted 04/27/07 10:54am

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can you post the pictures when you find them???
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Reply #82 posted 04/27/07 2:49pm

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cole said:

If I am correct the dress they are referring to would be the the red dress Mayte wore I think to the NAACP Image awards. Prince actually presented an award to a gentalman that took in I think 6 or 8 foster children. I still have the show on video. I must say both Prince and Mayte looked awesome. Now right before the divorce was annouced between Prince and Mani, I am not sure where they were but Mani was wearing a red dress as well and it does kind of look like the same dress that Mayte wore, however I am sure it was not the same dress. I think both pictures are here in the gallery. Prince is in a Ivory outfit and Mayte is in the red dress. The picture with Prince and Mani they are matching he is in a black suit red shirt and Mani is wearing the red dress they are referring to. Again I think this is what they are talking about. I hope that helped.



thats not the origin of the joke though...the origin of the joke is that mani tried on one of Mayte's dresses back when she was just an employee of Paisley Park. So then when the Mani pics popped up some of us jokingly said that was the dress and that Mani stole it.

and the joke lives on. giggle
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Reply #83 posted 04/27/07 4:31pm

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can you post the pictures when you find them???


This is the one with Mani

Prince & Manuela Nelson arrive at Clive Davis' pre-Grammy Awards party (13t...



Took me a while to realize that it was a dress and not a suit she was wearing.
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Reply #84 posted 04/27/07 6:23pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

Jiminy said:

can you post the pictures when you find them???


This is the one with Mani

Prince & Manuela Nelson arrive at Clive Davis' pre-Grammy Awards party (13t...



Took me a while to realize that it was a dress and not a suit she was wearing.



I can't find the one with Mayte in the gallery though. I went through all Mayte's pictures.
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Reply #85 posted 04/27/07 7:43pm

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thats not the origin of the joke though...the origin of the joke is that mani tried on one of Mayte's dresses back when she was just an employee of Paisley Park. So then when the Mani pics popped up some of us jokingly said that was the dress and that Mani stole it.

and the joke lives on. giggle


and its a good one lol that was just wrong!!
(although how did it get out that she tried on her dress? is this known to be true? and I can't help but think of this line..."I could tell from the moment U walked in the room, That it wasn't your dress U had on" lol lol )
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Reply #86 posted 04/28/07 4:13am

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I have heard a very different story... way back in 2004, before those pics of Mani in the red dress were taken which was after I saw Prince in Musicology concert which was June 2004.
I heard right here on the org and also on HQ that after Prince and Mayte were "separated" (meaning he left her in Spain and returned to Minnie), that Mani was now acting as the lady of the house at Paisely Park. People who went to some celebrations parties saw her wearing a dress purported to have been Mayte's dress.
I have heard it from more than one poster thru the years.
BEFORE the Mani and Prince pic shown here on this thread.

I don't know if it is true or not.... but people who have claimed to have actually met Mani in person at some of these celebrations have more or less said it was true
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Reply #87 posted 04/28/07 10:59am

xplnyrslf

Is it possible the designer made more than one red dress the same style?? Kinda like the "who wore it better" section in fashion mags.
Their body types are too different.
Not to mention the concept the dress would remind Prince of the ex.....no woman in her right mind would pull that off. Unless she's with Stevie Wonder.
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Reply #88 posted 04/28/07 11:39am

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jone70 said:

xplnyrslf said:



Goes to show you what I know. I thought the Pussycat Dolls were a group of transvestites.


falloff falloff

Hilarious.



At least I can now stop scrutinizing the crotches! I was like "Damn, these guys are good!"
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Reply #89 posted 04/29/07 1:27am

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Prince and Nona were NOT married!!... but Prince and Mayte were...that is the main diffrence. Any woman who will see a man with a wife, and still go after him the way she did is not a woman at all, but a home wrecking HO. Especially after losing Gregory the way they did and knowing that there were relationship problems, it is almost predatory to take advantage of that situation. It says alot about her that she did. Disgusting!! How could she sleep at night? I sure could not. But what goes around comes around. How a woman believes a man will be faithful to her after she was cheating with him while he was with another woman is beyond me. Stupid....
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How is one different than the other? Cheating is cheating whether a person is married or not. Either way, someone is interfering in someone else's relationship. Nona thought Prince was going to marry her, then Mayte was flashing her engagement ring onstage at a concert. Nona was devastated. So, both Mayte and Mani got involved with a man who was in a relationship. They both disrespected another woman and showed a lack of regard for the other woman's feelings. So your last statement can be applied to Mayte as equally as you apply it to Mani. I never felt bad for Mayte nor do I feel bad for Mani. Prince is not a saint, neither is either of these women. Based on the genesis of these relatioships, they all knew what game they were playing.
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