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PrintableAdmiralAdama said: From the sound of some of you folks, there is not one thing Prince has done in his career that was his idea. EVERYTHING was stolen from someone else who would have been a major star had Prince not "fucked them over".
Maybe I'm reading too deep into this, but it seems anytime there is a thread regarding the Time it's about how much Prince destroyed them, how much better they were than him. I think I said it before, but has anyone forgotten that Prince gave them the FUNKIEST MATERIAL he ever recorded? Now Morris, Andre, whoever can say whatever they want, and for some reason it is taken as gospel. Maybe one day we'll here Prince's side of the story. Until then, I look at it as Prince gave the Time their big break and when they started "turning him out" in front of crowds that had a majority of people who PREFERRED FUNK to the genre bending stuff Prince was trying at the time, things went wrong. Now Prince probably was an asshole to the boys--there's enough evidence to point in that direction--but why? Was it the drugs that Morris was shoving up his nose? Was it the fact that the Time maybe started believing their own hype? Was it the fact that he was afraid they were better than him? Who knows, but I for one refuse to take the word of Andre Cymone and Morris Day as gospel. It's truly not that serious. U have the right to refuse all kinds of shit. Damn, I sounded like a cop! SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: AdmiralAdama said: From the sound of some of you folks, there is not one thing Prince has done in his career that was his idea. EVERYTHING was stolen from someone else who would have been a major star had Prince not "fucked them over".
Maybe I'm reading too deep into this, but it seems anytime there is a thread regarding the Time it's about how much Prince destroyed them, how much better they were than him. I think I said it before, but has anyone forgotten that Prince gave them the FUNKIEST MATERIAL he ever recorded? Now Morris, Andre, whoever can say whatever they want, and for some reason it is taken as gospel. Maybe one day we'll here Prince's side of the story. Until then, I look at it as Prince gave the Time their big break and when they started "turning him out" in front of crowds that had a majority of people who PREFERRED FUNK to the genre bending stuff Prince was trying at the time, things went wrong. Now Prince probably was an asshole to the boys--there's enough evidence to point in that direction--but why? Was it the drugs that Morris was shoving up his nose? Was it the fact that the Time maybe started believing their own hype? Was it the fact that he was afraid they were better than him? Who knows, but I for one refuse to take the word of Andre Cymone and Morris Day as gospel. It's truly not that serious. U have the right to refuse all kinds of shit. Damn, I sounded like a cop! Hell it must be serious 2 u the way u topped off on this subject. I totally agree with AdmiralAdama some people r forever crying about P stealing from this person, taking from that person, a better player than this person, so fuking what.... Hell there r 2 sides 2 a story.. Let me hear Prince side then we can talk |
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pennylover said: blackguitaristz said: It's truly not that serious. U have the right to refuse all kinds of shit. Damn, I sounded like a cop! Hell it must be serious 2 u the way u topped off on this subject. I totally agree with AdmiralAdama some people r forever crying about P stealing from this person, taking from that person, a better player than this person, so fuking what.... Hell there r 2 sides 2 a story.. Let me hear Prince side then we can talk The way "I" topped off on this subject? And how did I do that? By simply telling what was told to me by two cats that not only knew P very well, but by one who was the lead singer of the band Jesse was in? Instead of getting defensive over a cat that hardly need ya'll defending him (Prince), it should be taking with just a grain of salt. Again, like I said posted earlier, it's TRULY not that serious. If u did hear P's side of the story, then what? All is right in the world? SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: pennylover said: Hell it must be serious 2 u the way u topped off on this subject. I totally agree with AdmiralAdama some people r forever crying about P stealing from this person, taking from that person, a better player than this person, so fuking what.... Hell there r 2 sides 2 a story.. Let me hear Prince side then we can talk The way "I" topped off on this subject? And how did I do that? By simply telling what was told to me by two cats that not only knew P very well, but by one who was the lead singer of the band Jesse was in? Instead of getting defensive over a cat that hardly need ya'll defending him (Prince), it should be taking with just a grain of salt. Again, like I said posted earlier, it's TRULY not that serious. If u did hear P's side of the story, then what? All is right in the world? First of all, IF I heard P’s side then I could be the judge of who I believe. Every now and then it comes up about P stealing from one of his associates. Yet they do nothing about it. But you’re right blackguitarist it's TRULY not that serious. I only commented on this because a few of u responded 2 this thread (Imo) as if P is not original and all he did was take from others. I still luv ya! and respect your knowledge on Prince.. Peace  |
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pennylover said: blackguitaristz said: The way "I" topped off on this subject? And how did I do that? By simply telling what was told to me by two cats that not only knew P very well, but by one who was the lead singer of the band Jesse was in? Instead of getting defensive over a cat that hardly need ya'll defending him (Prince), it should be taking with just a grain of salt. Again, like I said posted earlier, it's TRULY not that serious. If u did hear P's side of the story, then what? All is right in the world? First of all, IF I heard P’s side then I could be the judge of who I believe. Every now and then it comes up about P stealing from one of his associates. Yet they do nothing about it. But you’re right blackguitarist it's TRULY not that serious. I only commented on this because a few of u responded 2 this thread (Imo) as if P is not original and all he did was take from others. I still luv ya! and respect your knowledge on Prince.. Peace Don't get me wrong, I understand where everybody's coming from. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Oh My Goodiness! I didn't mean for this topic to get this far.I was just asking an question what my brother had told me about him.If it was going to be like this,I've would kept my mouth shut.  | |
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AdmiralAdama said: From the sound of some of you folks, there is not one thing Prince has done in his career that was his idea. EVERYTHING was stolen from someone else who would have been a major star had Prince not "fucked them over".
Maybe I'm reading too deep into this, but it seems anytime there is a thread regarding the Time it's about how much Prince destroyed them, how much better they were than him. I think I said it before, but has anyone forgotten that Prince gave them the FUNKIEST MATERIAL he ever recorded? Now Morris, Andre, whoever can say whatever they want, and for some reason it is taken as gospel. Maybe one day we'll here Prince's side of the story. Until then, I look at it as Prince gave the Time their big break and when they started "turning him out" in front of crowds that had a majority of people who PREFERRED FUNK to the genre bending stuff Prince was trying at the time, things went wrong. Now Prince probably was an asshole to the boys--there's enough evidence to point in that direction--but why? Was it the drugs that Morris was shoving up his nose? Was it the fact that the Time maybe started believing their own hype? Was it the fact that he was afraid they were better than him? Who knows, but I for one refuse to take the word of Andre Cymone and Morris Day as gospel. First off, I love THE TIME. Secondly, I do suspect that Prince probably had something to do with THE TIME failing to reach their full potential. However, I also believe that Prince was the main reason THE TIME was so good. The success of THE TIME is largely thanks to Prince. I just wish they had been bigger, because they were definately good enough to be the most popular band of the 1980s. THE TIME was the perfect funk band, and Prince was definately a major factor in this equation. There had never been a band like THE TIME, and there hasn't been since. | |
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i like jesse and i think he is great guitar player.
maybe prince was influanced by jesse,which is normal thing. everybody make themself from influance they colect. but to say that prince was scared of jesse's guitar playing i mean come on. on triple trit tour prince went into other sphere of his persona .he return to guitar on purple rain tour. mike scott is guitar monster compared to jesse so does that mean prince is scared of jesse. many of you don't even know thAT GUITAR SOLO ON 777-9311 IS PRINCE NOT JESSE. jesse have his guitar style but its large portion is based on improvisATION. prince guitar solos are better structured,better choice of notes because prince is better composer. if jesse was so great and prince was so pathetic then why are we here on prince .org instead of jesse org. why these days only enthusiast knows for jes se and prince is music icon. i meaN ppl be serious i know you love jesse but he cant smell prince's socket. you can compare prince to sly,jimi ,duke elington and miles. can u compare jesse to those guys. jesse was great but he is not that class | |
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thebanishedone said: i like jesse and i think he is great guitar player.
maybe prince was influanced by jesse,which is normal thing. everybody make themself from influance they colect. but to say that prince was scared of jesse's guitar playing i mean come on. on triple trit tour prince went into other sphere of his persona .he return to guitar on purple rain tour. mike scott is guitar monster compared to jesse so does that mean prince is scared of jesse. many of you don't even know thAT GUITAR SOLO ON 777-9311 IS PRINCE NOT JESSE. jesse have his guitar style but its large portion is based on improvisATION. prince guitar solos are better structured,better choice of notes because prince is better composer. if jesse was so great and prince was so pathetic then why are we here on prince .org instead of jesse org. why these days only enthusiast knows for jes se and prince is music icon. i meaN ppl be serious i know you love jesse but he cant smell prince's socket. you can compare prince to sly,jimi ,duke elington and miles. can u compare jesse to those guys. jesse was great but he is not that class In my post up above on this very thread and on other threads in the past, I've mentioned that not only is it P playing the solo on 777-9311, but that he intenionally bit off of Jesse's sound and the use of the tremlo bar (which P never used during this period) for that solo so that he could sound like Jesse. During The Time rehearsals, P walked in with 777-9311 on a tape, threw it at Jesse and said "U play a mean guitar." SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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thebanishedone said: i like jesse and i think he is great guitar player.
maybe prince was influanced by jesse,which is normal thing. everybody make themself from influance they colect. but to say that prince was scared of jesse's guitar playing i mean come on. on triple trit tour prince went into other sphere of his persona .he return to guitar on purple rain tour. mike scott is guitar monster compared to jesse so does that mean prince is scared of jesse. many of you don't even know thAT GUITAR SOLO ON 777-9311 IS PRINCE NOT JESSE. jesse have his guitar style but its large portion is based on improvisATION. prince guitar solos are better structured,better choice of notes because prince is better composer. if jesse was so great and prince was so pathetic then why are we here on prince .org instead of jesse org. why these days only enthusiast knows for jes se and prince is music icon. i meaN ppl be serious i know you love jesse but he cant smell prince's socket. you can compare prince to sly,jimi ,duke elington and miles. can u compare jesse to those guys. jesse was great but he is not that class I can picture you just sitting around trying to come up with new ways to prove that Prince is a great guitar player... Dude, there are other great guitar players besides Prince. Jesse Johnson is one of them. There's no need to keep going into the "prince plays scalar/more melodic crap over and over again every week...Prince is great. Jesse is great. We all know this. Just because it's Prince.org doesn't mean we have to talk about the purple one 24/7. My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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I was a 'lil rude in my previous post. Please excuse JesseDezz's rudeness. It's all good  My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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JesseDezz said: I was a 'lil rude in my previous post. Please excuse JesseDezz's rudeness. It's all good
Were u? I didn't read "rude". I read "accurate". SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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of course there are
better guitarplayers then prince that i like are:jimi hendrix eric johnson , ernie isley,vlatko stefanovski ,steve vai,george benson ,al dimeola, those guys are much better then prince on guitar,but jesse is not one of them. so don't try to make me like im prince obssesed freak. i only think you overrate jesse not as a guitar player but as artist. i can mention ton of better artist from that time period then jesse. also i doubt they were rivals. | |
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thebanishedone said: so don't try to make me like im prince obssesed freak. i only think you overrate jesse not as a guitar player but as artist. i can mention ton of better artist from that time period then jesse. also i doubt they were rivals. But you are a Prince-obssessed freak. And how am I overrating Jesse Johnson as an artist? What are you talking about? Oh, forget it... My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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ok so i am prince obessesed freak,but what are you jessedezz
prince opssesed freak who triest to present himself as cool non prince obssessed ?? jesse is great guitar player who cant sing who have some excelent songs(im just wanting you,can you help me,getting to know ya), some mediocrite song(*i want my girl). but in terms of popularity ,composing skills jesse just can't be in the same line as prince and you know it. jesse is maybe better guitar improvisator then prince(maybe???) but he is not better guitar player then prince. prince's solos have better structure better choice of notes then jesse. | |
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thebanishedone said: ok so i am prince obessesed freak,but what are you jessedezz
prince opssesed freak who triest to present himself as cool non prince obssessed ?? jesse is great guitar player who cant sing who have some excelent songs(im just wanting you,can you help me,getting to know ya), some mediocrite song(*i want my girl). but in terms of popularity ,composing skills jesse just can't be in the same line as prince and you know it. jesse is maybe better guitar improvisator then prince(maybe???) but he is not better guitar player then prince. prince's solos have better structure better choice of notes then jesse. I've just got one question for you. Do actually read what you've typed before you post it here? Not to be funny, but a many of your longer post leave me with the impression that your almost foaming at the mouth as you type them. You may have some valid points. However, your post read in such a disjointed fashion that any point that you attempt to make gets "lost in the sauce". If you're confident about you opinions no need to be so defensive. At the end of the day it is only just an opinion. Eh...one more question. Just what the hell does "smell his socket" mean? What kind of freaky sh** is that? LOL! |
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thebanishedone said: ok so i am prince obessesed freak,but what are you jessedezz
prince opssesed freak who triest to present himself as cool non prince obssessed ?? jesse is great guitar player who cant sing who have some excelent songs(im just wanting you,can you help me,getting to know ya), some mediocrite song(*i want my girl). but in terms of popularity ,composing skills jesse just can't be in the same line as prince and you know it. jesse is maybe better guitar improvisator then prince(maybe???) but he is not better guitar player then prince. prince's solos have better structure better choice of notes then jesse. Stop talking in absolutes, dude, as if it's a known fact that "he is not better guitar player than prince." That's your opinion, that's all it is. You can argue all you want, seven days a week, about how Prince uses more melodic scales and he practices a lot more - that's just YOUR opinion. You need to take a chill pill, banishedone - the way you respond, I can see you sitting in front of your computer in a pile of sweat, with veins bulging out of your forehead. Take it easy, guy - it's just a difference of opinion. Don't have a breakdown. And by the way, I don't try to present myself as anything - I'm just JesseDezz  My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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jessedezz i know that maybe you are a cool guy but you tend to write insulting things to me.
it doesn't matter who is better,because the best dont exist. | |
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