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Printablesallysassalot said: "representaton on all levels" means just that. she had problems with the big label (was it sony or universal or something) and problems with prince. my guess is the label wanted certain terms and prince didn't like the terms and in the end, the only person who lost out was tamar. but that's just a guess.
Yeah this is nothing more than a repeat of the "Rosie Gaines" show. I mean though Prince has worked with her here and there, he really did give up on it and focused his attention more on Carmen Electra's record. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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purplefrank said: from Tamar @ myspace.com/tamardavis
This year has been a wonderful and overwhelming year. And with each day there is always news to be shared, heard, and explored. Many of you have been asking about the "Milk & Honey" album produced by my mentor and the genius PRINCE and co-written by me. Unfortunately, that album will not be released due to representation on all levels. I have started fresh and I would like to give you some sneak peaks for you to get a feel and an understanding of what Tamar has been up to lately. Please comment and give me your feedback as I embark on a very fun and eventful journey. Until then, remain Beautiful, Loved, and Blessed.....~Tamar Davis~ P.S. For more information of the acclaimed producer of these songs visit www.myspace.com/kwamemusic and give him a few words or 2.... Oh dear!! Big halabaloo! Translation.... Universal wanted to have other producers on the album to make it more radio friendly and hip, P didn't want songs he worked on screwed with. Universal said then we're not releasing it. End of story. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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sallysassalot said: "representaton on all levels" means just that. she had problems with the big label (was it sony or universal or something) and problems with prince. my guess is the label wanted certain terms and prince didn't like the terms and in the end, the only person who lost out was tamar. but that's just a guess.
O.K., then why didn't she say, "due to MIS-representation on all levels?" The statement, as she put it, doesn't make sense to me. Or why not just say that the CD wouldn't have been the true project she would have wanted and decided to go a different route. That's ambiguous enough but a little more specific than "representation on all levels". Whatever.  I do like the new stuff, though. | |
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lastdecember said: not for anything, I love Prince, but i totally blame him for this, and this shows his lack for devoting time to projects. This album could have come out, i know they may have been looking for some big push, but if they were preaching about her talent, which she has, then the goal should have been to just release it and then let word of mouth do the rest.
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Ifsixwuz9 said: purplefrank said: from Tamar @ myspace.com/tamardavis
This year has been a wonderful and overwhelming year. And with each day there is always news to be shared, heard, and explored. Many of you have been asking about the "Milk & Honey" album produced by my mentor and the genius PRINCE and co-written by me. Unfortunately, that album will not be released due to representation on all levels. I have started fresh and I would like to give you some sneak peaks for you to get a feel and an understanding of what Tamar has been up to lately. Please comment and give me your feedback as I embark on a very fun and eventful journey. Until then, remain Beautiful, Loved, and Blessed.....~Tamar Davis~ P.S. For more information of the acclaimed producer of these songs visit www.myspace.com/kwamemusic and give him a few words or 2.... Oh dear!! Big halabaloo! Translation.... Universal wanted to have other producers on the album to make it more radio friendly and hip, P didn't want songs he worked on screwed with. Universal said then we're not releasing it. End of story. So why couldnt Prince & Tamar release it on their own? Can they since they own the masters? | |
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CalhounSq said: those fucking twins can't do nothin' but look cockeyed & scare you w/ their damn eyeshadow
 
Good to see you're still around ! Futuristic Fantasy | |
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origmnd said: Ifsixwuz9 said: Translation.... Universal wanted to have other producers on the album to make it more radio friendly and hip, P didn't want songs he worked on screwed with. Universal said then we're not releasing it. End of story. So why couldnt Prince & Tamar release it on their own? Can they since they own the masters? Maybe one co-owner doesn't want the other co-owner to be able to release it... | |
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DevotedPuppy said: lastdecember said: not for anything, I love Prince, but i totally blame him for this, and this shows his lack for devoting time to projects. This album could have come out, i know they may have been looking for some big push, but if they were preaching about her talent, which she has, then the goal should have been to just release it and then let word of mouth do the rest.
I wouldn't blame Prince completely...blame rarely belongs to one person entirely. but those times that it does, it usually belongs to Prince  "The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life. " -- Edith Massey in Female Trouble | |
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DevotedPuppy said: origmnd said: So why couldnt Prince & Tamar release it on their own? Can they since they own the masters? Maybe one co-owner doesn't want the other co-owner to be able to release it... Prince must be interfering then since she's apparantly banished completely. | |
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origmnd said: DevotedPuppy said: Maybe one co-owner doesn't want the other co-owner to be able to release it... Prince must be interfering then since she's apparantly banished completely. Banished??? What do you mean by that? | |
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KidOmega said: DevotedPuppy said: I wouldn't blame Prince completely...blame rarely belongs to one person entirely. but those times that it does, it usually belongs to Prince Still a two-way street. No one is perfect, and we all know what assuming does.  | |
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origmnd said: Ifsixwuz9 said: Translation.... Universal wanted to have other producers on the album to make it more radio friendly and hip, P didn't want songs he worked on screwed with. Universal said then we're not releasing it. End of story. So why couldnt Prince & Tamar release it on their own? Can they since they own the masters? My guess. She wants to get played on the radio. If a major label isn't releasing it the odds of her getting any airplay are little to none. Next best thing is to sound like everything else on the radio...such as the three new songs indicate. . [Edited 11/22/06 14:53pm] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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PurpleCharm said: origmnd said: Prince must be interfering then since she's apparantly banished completely. Banished??? What do you mean by that? just that she's nowhere. not being included in the vegas thing did her solo show recently with no promotion from his camp--what band did she have for the recent show? | |
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DevotedPuppy said: origmnd said: So why couldnt Prince & Tamar release it on their own? Can they since they own the masters? Maybe one co-owner doesn't want the other co-owner to be able to release it... I doubt that since some tracks have been made available for sale by Tamar via Burn Lounge. And since it seems some of the songs are owned by her SAG (I think that's what it's called) production company. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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origmnd said: PurpleCharm said: Banished??? What do you mean by that? just that she's nowhere. not being included in the vegas thing did her solo show recently with no promotion from his camp--what band did she have for the recent show? What are you talking about?? Tamar is doing her thing. Just because she not a part of the Vegas gig doesn't mean she's nowhere. She opened up for Mint Condition a few weeks ago and she has obviously been in the studio working on some new music. Not having a band is not going to make her or break her, especially considering the fact that most of her peers don't have one. Beyonce just got a band and she has been in the game for almost a decade. | |
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DevotedPuppy said: KidOmega said: but those times that it does, it usually belongs to Prince Still a two-way street. No one is perfect, and we all know what assuming does. Prince is an ass. I ASSUME you know that "The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life. " -- Edith Massey in Female Trouble | |
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PurpleCharm said: origmnd said: just that she's nowhere. not being included in the vegas thing did her solo show recently with no promotion from his camp--what band did she have for the recent show? What are you talking about?? Tamar is doing her thing. Just because she not a part of the Vegas gig doesn't mean she's nowhere. She opened up for Mint Condition a few weeks ago and she has obviously been in the studio working on some new music. Not having a band is not going to make her or break her, especially considering the fact that most of her peers don't have one. Beyonce just got a band and she has been in the game for almost a decade. i think the poster meant that she's been banished from the Prince camp. which is what we were all talking about here. "The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life. " -- Edith Massey in Female Trouble | |
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KidOmega said: DevotedPuppy said: Still a two-way street. No one is perfect, and we all know what assuming does. Prince is an ass. I ASSUME you know that I've never met Prince personally, so I wouldn't know...(and frankly, I prefer to presume not assume ). Regardless, Prince isn't the one on this thread ASSuming that he is solely to blame...so that just leaves???
All I'm proposing is that perhaps Prince isn't 100% to blame for Milk & Honey being sucked into the Paisley void. Stranger things have happened.
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KidOmega said: PurpleCharm said: What are you talking about?? Tamar is doing her thing. Just because she not a part of the Vegas gig doesn't mean she's nowhere. She opened up for Mint Condition a few weeks ago and she has obviously been in the studio working on some new music. Not having a band is not going to make her or break her, especially considering the fact that most of her peers don't have one. Beyonce just got a band and she has been in the game for almost a decade. i think the poster meant that she's been banished from the Prince camp. which is what we were all talking about here. That would make sense if the poster didn't also say she's nowhere...but whatever. | |
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PurpleCharm said: KidOmega said: i think the poster meant that she's been banished from the Prince camp. which is what we were all talking about here. That would make sense if the poster didn't also say she's nowhere...but whatever. right now she IS nowhere. she got an album out? a song? a contract? nope. that may change, but at the moment, all she's got is a page on myspace, and so do millions of other people. "The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life. " -- Edith Massey in Female Trouble | |
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KidOmega said: PurpleCharm said: That would make sense if the poster didn't also say she's nowhere...but whatever. right now she IS nowhere. she got an album out? a song? a contract? nope. that may change, but at the moment, all she's got is a page on myspace, and so do millions of other people. She is somewhere trying to start over...recording new music, working with a new producer, that's where she is. Why should I or anyone else expect her to have a song out or album out NOW when the whole M&H project has been scrapped? She's not just sitting a home boohooing about how the whole thing with Prince went down. She may not have a contract, a backing band, etc, but no longer being connected to Prince may be her blessing in disguise. [Edited 11/23/06 12:17pm] | |
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PurpleCharm said: KidOmega said: right now she IS nowhere. she got an album out? a song? a contract? nope. that may change, but at the moment, all she's got is a page on myspace, and so do millions of other people. She is somewhere trying to start over...recording new music, working with a new producer, that's where she is. right. then we agree. she's nowhere "The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life. " -- Edith Massey in Female Trouble | |
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Such a shame.I was really lokking forward to her album. | |
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KidOmega said: PurpleCharm said: She is somewhere trying to start over...recording new music, working with a new producer, that's where she is. right. then we agree. she's nowhere No. We don't agree. But I won't continue to go back and forth with you about it, as it's obvious what your intentions are. Good day | |
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CalhounSq, your comment is a hit! Actually, I'm not sure which is funnier: your description of the twinz, or your sig! "I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 |
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CalhounSq said: I knew there was some bullshit afoot when her name wasn't on the Vegas roster
And WHY did P go through all the motions of promoting this child to death just to drop her w/ an unreleased album??? I don't get it... at least she can actually SING, those fucking twins can't do nothin' but look cockeyed & scare you w/ their damn eyeshadow STOP IT!! IMMA PEE MY PANTS!!! | |
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   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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missfee said: NuPwr319 said: "...due to representation on all levels"? What the hell does that mean?
yeah, smells like bullshit. I'm thinking Prince got mad at the record company and thus her contract was nul and void. From what I heard of the tracks in working, she got it going on. _________________________________________
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So the fans have to lose out by not getting to hear the CD?
Cant believe nothing can be worked out to get it released. Foolish, eventually itll get bootlegged and NO ONE will make money off it. | |
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