Yeah!! A success in breaking up a marriage!!!!!

Desire2006 said:

None of us know why P and Mani are getting a divorce.

PurpleCharm said:

but we all do know she aint no success.

PurpleCharm said:

but we all do know she aint no success.

sosgemini said:

I don't think we do.We would have to ask her if she thinks she's successful.
Let's look at like this. In a span of at least a year and a half she:

-received a personal invitation to be mentored by a music icon

-performed with Prince on the NAACP Image Award Show, the Brit Awards, the BET Awards, SNL and GMA(solo performance)

-became a member of the NPG

-had her mentor help her get a record deal with Universal

-co-wrote her entire album with Prince

-sung on half the songs on 3121

-headlined her own mini-tour

-co-headlined the 2 LV concerts

-performed at P's mansion and mingled celebs

-2 singles released to radio

-an interview clip on MTV and mtv.com


All that without an album.

It possible that she may view all of the above as a success. There are plenty of talented people that will never have the opportunity to do what she has done...so even if her album isn't released, she should be proud of what she has accomplished.
[Edited 7/30/06 8:43am]

sosgemini said:

Is this fact or wishful thinking?

wonder505 said:

she hasnt even released an album yet...sure we can she was a success at getting prince to showcase her talent.

but let the girl release the album before we start declaring her *career* anything...i just feel the initial statement is a bit premature.

sosgemini said:

I don't think we do.We would have to ask her if she thinks she's successful.
Let's look at like this. In a span of at least a year and a half she:

-received a personal invitation to be mentored by a music icon

-performed with Prince on the NAACP Image Award Show, the Brit Awards, the BET Awards, SNL and GMA(solo performance)

-became a member of the NPG

-had her mentor help her get a record deal with Universal

-co-wrote her entire album with Prince

-sung on half the songs on 3121

-headlined her own mini-tour

-co-headlined the 2 LV concerts

-performed at P's mansion and mingled celebs

-2 singles released to radio

-an interview clip on MTV and mtv.com


All that without an album.

It possible that she may view all of the above as a success. There are plenty of talented people that will never have the opportunity to do what she has done...so even if her album isn't released, she should be proud of what she has accomplished.
[Edited 7/30/06 8:43am]

sosgemini said:

and I'll add that we should wait until she releases her album before we start declaring that she's unsuccessful.

sosgemini said:

and I'll add that we should wait until she releases her album before we start declaring that she's unsuccessful.

sosgemini said:

I don't think we do.We would have to ask her if she thinks she's successful.
Let's look at like this. In a span of at least a year and a half she:

-received a personal invitation to be mentored by a music icon

-performed with Prince on the NAACP Image Award Show, the Brit Awards, the BET Awards, SNL and GMA(solo performance)

-became a member of the NPG

-had her mentor help her get a record deal with Universal

-co-wrote her entire album with Prince

-sung on half the songs on 3121

-headlined her own mini-tour

-co-headlined the 2 LV concerts

-performed at P's mansion and mingled celebs

-2 singles released to radio

-an interview clip on MTV and mtv.com


All that without an album.

It possible that she may view all of the above as a success. There are plenty of talented people that will never have the opportunity to do what she has done...so even if her album isn't released, she should be proud of what she has accomplished.
[Edited 7/30/06 8:43am]

PurpleCharm said:

Terilicious said:

ya all know what? i gonna agree with you all..you all are right.

thanks.

sosgemini said:

I don't think we do.We would have to ask her if she thinks she's successful.
Let's look at like this. In a span of at least a year and a half she:

-received a personal invitation to be mentored by a music icon

-performed with Prince on the NAACP Image Award Show, the Brit Awards, the BET Awards, SNL and GMA(solo performance)

-became a member of the NPG

-had her mentor help her get a record deal with Universal

-co-wrote her entire album with Prince

-sung on half the songs on 3121

-headlined her own mini-tour

-co-headlined the 2 LV concerts

-performed at P's mansion and mingled w/celebs

-2 singles released to radio

-an interview clip on MTV and mtv.com


All that without an album.

It's possible that she may view all of the above as a success. There are plenty of talented people that will never have the opportunity to do what she has done...so even if her album isn't released, she should be proud of what she has accomplished.
[Edited 7/30/06 11:19am]

sosgemini said:

I don't think we do.We would have to ask her if she thinks she's successful.
Let's look at like this. In a span of at least a year and a half she:

-received a personal invitation to be mentored by a music icon

-performed with Prince on the NAACP Image Award Show, the Brit Awards, the BET Awards, SNL and GMA(solo performance)

-became a member of the NPG

-had her mentor help her get a record deal with Universal

-co-wrote her entire album with Prince

-sung on half the songs on 3121

-headlined her own mini-tour

-co-headlined the 2 LV concerts

-performed at P's mansion and mingled w/celebs

-2 singles released to radio

-an interview clip on MTV and mtv.com


All that without an album.

It's possible that she may view all of the above as a success. There are plenty of talented people that will never have the opportunity to do what she has done...so even if her album isn't released, she should be proud of what she has accomplished.
[Edited 7/30/06 11:19am]

to me 'success' is determined by virtues
not headlines

sosgemini said:

and I'll add that we should wait until she releases her album before we start declaring that she's unsuccessful.

Terilicious said:

ya all know what? i gonna agree with you all..you all are right.

thanks.

PurpleCharm said:

Because if we all declared that .... oh let's say ... ummmm... Wendy & Lisa were not successful because they went wood with their releases, someone would have their panties in a twist trying to convince folks otherwise based on session work and classical training...

BSK3601 said:

and just to add to my above post i have never attempted to say that they were commercial success. in fact i embrass their cult following...my initial comment was within the context of Tamar being a commercial success, which she isnt...once my fellow orgers within this thread pointed out that Tamar could indeed consider this year as a personal sucess i was "adult" enough to conceed and share in that assessment.

now, would you like to further discuss this topic with me or are you finished?

sosgemini said:

Damn hit dogs always holler don't they? I just said "someone" ... You didn't have to respond.
Lighten the fuck up...

And P.S. it's embrace their cult following...

sacredwarrior said:

I agree sacredwarrior, but were talkin about commercial success. I know it doesnt hold much weight in the grand scheme of things.

sosgemini said:

I don't think we do.We would have to ask her if she thinks she's successful.
Let's look at like this. In a span of at least a year and a half she:

-received a personal invitation to be mentored by a music icon

-performed with Prince on the NAACP Image Award Show, the Brit Awards, the BET Awards, SNL and GMA(solo performance)

-became a member of the NPG

-had her mentor help her get a record deal with Universal

-co-wrote her entire album with Prince

-sung on half the songs on 3121

-headlined her own mini-tour

-co-headlined the 2 LV concerts

-performed at P's mansion and mingled w/celebs

-2 singles released to radio

-an interview clip on MTV and mtv.com


All that without an album.

It's possible that she may view all of the above as a success. There are plenty of talented people that will never have the opportunity to do what she has done...so even if her album isn't released, she should be proud of what she has accomplished.
[Edited 7/30/06 11:19am]

PurpleCharm said:

everything you listed is in some way associated with P and that's cool, but I wouldn't consider myself a success because i got to work/sing/dance/write/get a record deal/tour with Prince. I would have to be able to say I could stand alone on my own 2 feet to feel like a success. I'm not saying Tamar can't or won't be successful just what I've seen so far is no such indicator.