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I am praying for you so you can reach her. Her eyes seemed glazed over to me which means there is another issue she is not disclosing. For her not to see the contradiction is a clue to another issue (perhaps medicinal perhaps not). It's a Poplife! 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 and | |
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Rhondab said: Lastly,
the fact that you've edited your one response to Krystal four to five times IN RESPONSE to what I've said...says a WHOLE LOT. I've read all of your "edits". 
me and Ottensen and others are here.  I've read your posts Rhonda. Thank you for saying what needed to be said. I know that it comes from a place of love. To Robin, I didn't come right out and say it but I was trying steer the conversation in another direction when I asked about your art. You have yet to respond to that post. When someone has been through as much as you have, it's sometimes hard to distinguish between attention and real love. I realize that we don't know you, but I agree with the women here who don't want to see you further exploited because of your openness. By all means, you should share what is truly on your mind and in your heart. Rhonda is trying to show you a way to do that without leaving yourself vulnerable to further victimization. Do you believe you are here for a reason Robin? I'd say that God is here right now speaking to the hearts of some of your sisters on this board and guiding them to reach out to you. Please embrace that, because these ladies want to embrace you even if you never mention Prince's name again. Ya feel me??? Please know that you are in my prayers, whatever you decide to do. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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Robin,
I think you ought to listen to Rhondab. She isn't attacking you, she's honestly is trying to help you. I've been coming to .org for 5 years now and I know I come here to joke a lot, but one thing I like is that there are some very caring people here. Message boards come and go, but this place has some wonderful people which is why I'm still here after 5 years. Many of us here have gone through a rough time and I can tell stories similar to yours, but I don't anymore because I am past all that now. I know why I acted the way I did. I used to tell my story and cry out to anyone who would listen and I will tell you that the people who helped me the most were the ones who kicked me in the butt, the ones who sound like they were being insensitive to me. I hated to hear what they had to say, but after I finished getting angry at them and yelling "you don't know me", I knew I had no where else to go but back to their wisdom and I shut the heck up and listened for a change and I had to take a lot of responsibility for my choices and when you take responsibility, the victim has nowhere else to go but towards transcendense. If you truly believe in God, then trust in him. People are your mirrors and you get back what you put out there. My daughter's father stopped paying support years ago and rather than waste my time fighting through the court system and chasing him down, I let him go. I didn't get mad at him, I knew he was gonna eventually half-step anyway. God paid me child support. When I lost that $300 a month, the same month, I landed some extra work which gave me even more money than what I was getting before. Thus, the old adage "we're never given a problem without being given a gift as well." We're here for you, girl, honestly. No one wants to kick you down here. Feel blessed that people like Rhondab was able to be honest with you and tell you true because even though its not what you want to hear, it's something that will make a big difference in your life. Hugs and blessings, LQ | |
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Rhondab said: And to you Krystal: After all of that Robin said about why she finds herself dancing, your response was "What do you think of it?"
 The woman just poured out her heart about being evicted, child support issues and your response was, "what do you think of it?" It also falls inline with you asking her what prince felt about her abuse. Who cares about prince when this woman IS disclosing all of this. You are looking very transparent.
[Edited 8/28/06 16:17pm] Look girl, Robin is the type of person who feels comfortable telling others about her life obviously, if she didn't she wouldn't have awnsered our questions. And for the record I did ask her a question which she did not feel was appropriate to elaborate on and that is totally fine with me, I can definatley respect that. I was asking her about her life...I think what she wrote about dancing is 100% honest, I know because I am a dancer and alot of people judge me and judge what my life is about, they think I am a certain type of person because of what I have chosen to do...but they don't know my life and they don't know what kind of person I am and they definatly don't know all the emotions and difficulties a woman goes through when she chooses to do this...I'm not saying it is all bad, it has opened doors for me that would have never been opened to me if I had not found the courage and strength to do this..but it has taken it's own toll on me...but it is all apart of my plan to set up my security for the future. Whatever feelings/things I have to heal after I retire from this I am well aware I have address but everyone is born with certain abilities or strenghts that able them to survive. My question asking Robin what she thought about dancing was in no way trying to exploit her life, she is a grown woman and can protect herself. And Robin...you don't know how much I can relate to what you said....that is very much the life of the dancer...those feelings and thoughts we all have. It is a very rough buisness and I would in no way want my future daughters to do it but I'm glad this profession is available to those who want to use it to get to where they need to go. And for me, I know I am a good person, I believe in God, I treat others with respect, I treat myself with respect and I don't do things that make me feel bad about myself. That may not gaurantee maximum amount of money but you know what...I'm doing just fine and I know my soul is intact and I get rewarded with karma every day. Robin thank you for being honest and exposing the truth about his buisness. You have learned in a weekend the truth about it what most girls in it haven't figured out in years. You are beautiuful and talented and don't let any man, expecially a man in a gentleman's club, make you think any different. Most of them hate women anyway. Be their fantasy, take their shit, then collect your money and cleanse your soul. 
Oh and btw Rhondab I've never been sexually abused so not all girls in this buisness have been, I have my own issues with my past but I'm strong enough to deal with them. | |
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I wrote a wonderful response...and well..you know the Org 
But Krystal, this is your advice to Robin: Be their fantasy, take their shit, then collect your money and cleanse your soul.
This says a lot. Thanks Lady Q and Baby for your words. I hope that they are received as well. | |
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Rhondab said: Lastly,
the fact that you've edited your one response to Krystal four to five times IN RESPONSE to what I've said...says a WHOLE LOT. I've read all of your "edits".
me and Ottensen and others are here. Yes we are. Watching, waiting quietly, and without self-serving intention. | |
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Krystal666 said: Rhondab said: And to you Krystal: After all of that Robin said about why she finds herself dancing, your response was "What do you think of it?"
The woman just poured out her heart about being evicted, child support issues and your response was, "what do you think of it?" It also falls inline with you asking her what prince felt about her abuse. Who cares about prince when this woman IS disclosing all of this. You are looking very transparent.
[Edited 8/28/06 16:17pm] Look girl, Robin is the type of person who feels comfortable telling others about her life obviously, if she didn't she wouldn't have awnsered our questions. And for the record I did ask her a question which she did not feel was appropriate to elaborate on and that is totally fine with me, I can definatley respect that. I was asking her about her life...I think what she wrote about dancing is 100% honest, I know because I am a dancer and alot of people judge me and judge what my life is about, they think I am a certain type of person because of what I have chosen to do...but they don't know my life and they don't know what kind of person I am and they definatly don't know all the emotions and difficulties a woman goes through when she chooses to do this...I'm not saying it is all bad, it has opened doors for me that would have never been opened to me if I had not found the courage and strength to do this..but it has taken it's own toll on me...but it is all apart of my plan to set up my security for the future. Whatever feelings/things I have to heal after I retire from this I am well aware I have address but everyone is born with certain abilities or strenghts that able them to survive. My question asking Robin what she thought about dancing was in no way trying to exploit her life, she is a grown woman and can protect herself. And Robin...you don't know how much I can relate to what you said....that is very much the life of the dancer...those feelings and thoughts we all have. It is a very rough buisness and I would in no way want my future daughters to do it but I'm glad this profession is available to those who want to use it to get to where they need to go. And for me, I know I am a good person, I believe in God, I treat others with respect, I treat myself with respect and I don't do things that make me feel bad about myself. That may not gaurantee maximum amount of money but you know what...I'm doing just fine and I know my soul is intact and I get rewarded with karma every day. Robin thank you for being honest and exposing the truth about his buisness. You have learned in a weekend the truth about it what most girls in it haven't figured out in years. You are beautiuful and talented and don't let any man, expecially a man in a gentleman's club, make you think any different. Most of them hate women anyway. Be their fantasy, take their shit, then collect your money and cleanse your soul.
Oh and btw Rhondab I've never been sexually abused so not all girls in this buisness have been, I have my own issues with my past but I'm strong enough to deal with them. OKAY. THAT'S IT. My motto in this life generally is to walk softly through it and carry a big stick, but there are some points I feel should be addressed here without whitewashing or euphemism. Please understand that I am speaking from passionate conviction, yes, but with an honest and heartfelt desire to understand what's happening here. Your response to Rhondab's post make it most abundantly clear that either everything she said somehow went over your head  , young woman, OR you have tried, rather clumsily I might add, to sidewind your way around the point that you have an obsessive and transparent tendency to bring everything discussed here back around to Prince to get to him or feel closer to him or God knows what. My question is, which is it, Krystal? Do you not clearly see how probing into what Prince's opinion was of a woman's harrowing life journey while she's laying her life bare before our eyes is inapproriate at most and tactless at the least? Or do you not care because you have ulterior motives to begin with? Your posts, and empty compliments no matter how sugar coated you make them, certainly give one pause  | |
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Krystal666 said: Rhondab said: And to you Krystal: After all of that Robin said about why she finds herself dancing, your response was "What do you think of it?"
The woman just poured out her heart about being evicted, child support issues and your response was, "what do you think of it?" It also falls inline with you asking her what prince felt about her abuse. Who cares about prince when this woman IS disclosing all of this. You are looking very transparent.
[Edited 8/28/06 16:17pm] Look girl, Robin is the type of person who feels comfortable telling others about her life obviously, if she didn't she wouldn't have awnsered our questions. And for the record I did ask her a question which she did not feel was appropriate to elaborate on and that is totally fine with me, I can definatley respect that. I was asking her about her life...I think what she wrote about dancing is 100% honest, I know because I am a dancer and alot of people judge me and judge what my life is about, they think I am a certain type of person because of what I have chosen to do...but they don't know my life and they don't know what kind of person I am and they definatly don't know all the emotions and difficulties a woman goes through when she chooses to do this...I'm not saying it is all bad, it has opened doors for me that would have never been opened to me if I had not found the courage and strength to do this..but it has taken it's own toll on me...but it is all apart of my plan to set up my security for the future. Whatever feelings/things I have to heal after I retire from this I am well aware I have address but everyone is born with certain abilities or strenghts that able them to survive. My question asking Robin what she thought about dancing was in no way trying to exploit her life, she is a grown woman and can protect herself. And Robin...you don't know how much I can relate to what you said....that is very much the life of the dancer...those feelings and thoughts we all have. It is a very rough buisness and I would in no way want my future daughters to do it but I'm glad this profession is available to those who want to use it to get to where they need to go. And for me, I know I am a good person, I believe in God, I treat others with respect, I treat myself with respect and I don't do things that make me feel bad about myself. That may not gaurantee maximum amount of money but you know what...I'm doing just fine and I know my soul is intact and I get rewarded with karma every day. Robin thank you for being honest and exposing the truth about his buisness. You have learned in a weekend the truth about it what most girls in it haven't figured out in years. You are beautiuful and talented and don't let any man, expecially a man in a gentleman's club, make you think any different. Most of them hate women anyway. Be their fantasy, take their shit, then collect your money and cleanse your soul.
Oh and btw Rhondab I've never been sexually abused so not all girls in this buisness have been, I have my own issues with my past but I'm strong enough to deal with them. Do not think for one second that I am done  .
You were open enough to share the fact that you have not been sexually abused despite being a stripper. I say that you should count your blessings and be thankful. However, this is not a thread about you. And more specifically, from having heard Robin's stories, it appears that we have moved forward in the vein of discussion, dear...of how abuse in the past can affect our choices in womanhood with how we see ourselves and present our partial selves to the world. Where did you not see or understand that in Rhondab's posts? I don't think she meant to imply that all hypersexual females are abuse victims. If it doesn't apply to you then why waste the typing space? Krystal, this has the potentional to be a progressive, educational, and spiritually beneficial discussion, do try to stay on board and on point 
Additionally, you mentioned that Robin "is the type of person that feels comfortable in telling others about her life obviously"... that she is a grown woman who can take care of herself. Again, I say to you that you either did not comprehend the posts that addressed those very points heretofore, or you are suspect in egging her on to pursue this self destructrive path. In my eyes, one thing is absolutely certain: fourteen years of working closely with celebrities and A-list models has shown me that there will always be hangers on who will say any sweet nothing to get one step closer to the "Pop Life"... and having firm grounding and sound judgment has taught me, in the words of one of my favorite teleplay writers that "growing up near a rural environment, I 've seen compost all my life, and before now, never have I seen it in quite so neat, and tidy , and pretty a package...but you know what? it's STILL compost"... ...so now that you've made some very transparent moves with the infinitive Prince probing, the very Freudian slip that "thanked" Robin for "exposing the truth about HIS business", and of course some rather true nature revelations that would advise a woman to be a man's "fantasy, take their shit, collect their money, then cleanse your soul"??? (As if these actions are mutually exclusive to begin with) think about how to dig yourself out of the compost mound, dearest, and remember by your very own foretelling, if you are not pure of heart with your intentions here, that you indeed will "get rewarded with Karma everyday". ...this is the first and the last time I will speak on this portion of the topic. Punkt. [Edited 8/29/06 6:42am] | |
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Ottensen said: Krystal666 said: Look girl, Robin is the type of person who feels comfortable telling others about her life obviously, if she didn't she wouldn't have awnsered our questions. And for the record I did ask her a question which she did not feel was appropriate to elaborate on and that is totally fine with me, I can definatley respect that. I was asking her about her life...I think what she wrote about dancing is 100% honest, I know because I am a dancer and alot of people judge me and judge what my life is about, they think I am a certain type of person because of what I have chosen to do...but they don't know my life and they don't know what kind of person I am and they definatly don't know all the emotions and difficulties a woman goes through when she chooses to do this...I'm not saying it is all bad, it has opened doors for me that would have never been opened to me if I had not found the courage and strength to do this..but it has taken it's own toll on me...but it is all apart of my plan to set up my security for the future. Whatever feelings/things I have to heal after I retire from this I am well aware I have address but everyone is born with certain abilities or strenghts that able them to survive. My question asking Robin what she thought about dancing was in no way trying to exploit her life, she is a grown woman and can protect herself. And Robin...you don't know how much I can relate to what you said....that is very much the life of the dancer...those feelings and thoughts we all have. It is a very rough buisness and I would in no way want my future daughters to do it but I'm glad this profession is available to those who want to use it to get to where they need to go. And for me, I know I am a good person, I believe in God, I treat others with respect, I treat myself with respect and I don't do things that make me feel bad about myself. That may not gaurantee maximum amount of money but you know what...I'm doing just fine and I know my soul is intact and I get rewarded with karma every day. Robin thank you for being honest and exposing the truth about his buisness. You have learned in a weekend the truth about it what most girls in it haven't figured out in years. You are beautiuful and talented and don't let any man, expecially a man in a gentleman's club, make you think any different. Most of them hate women anyway. Be their fantasy, take their shit, then collect your money and cleanse your soul.
Oh and btw Rhondab I've never been sexually abused so not all girls in this buisness have been, I have my own issues with my past but I'm strong enough to deal with them. Do not think for one second that I am done .
You were open enough to share the fact that you have not been sexually abused despite being a stripper. I say that you should count your blessings and be thankful. However, this is not a thread about you. And more specifically, from having heard Robin's stories, it appears that we have moved forward in the vein of discussion, dear...of how abuse in the past can affect our choices in womanhood with how we see ourselves and present our partial selves to the world. Where did you not see or understand that in Rhondab's posts? I don't think she meant to imply that all hypersexual females are abuse victims. If it doesn't apply to you then why waste the typing space? Krystal, this has the potentional to be a progressive, educational, and spiritually beneficial discussion, do try to stay on board and on point
Additionally, you mentioned that Robin "is the type of person that feels comfortable in telling others about her life obviously"... that she is a grown woman who can take care of herself. Again, I say to you that you either did not comprehend the posts that addressed those very points heretofore, or you are suspect in egging her on to pursue this self destructrive path. In my eyes, one thing is absolutely certain: fourteen years of working closely with celebrities and A-list models has shown me that there will always be hangers on who will say any sweet nothing to get one step closer to the "Pop Life"... and having firm grounding and sound judgment has taught me, in the words of one of my favorite teleplay writers that "growing up near a rural environment, I 've seen compost all my life, and before now, never have I seen it in quite so neat, and tidy , and pretty a package...but you know what? it's STILL compost"... ...so now that you've made some very transparent moves with the infinitive Prince probing, the very Freudian slip that "thanked" Robin for "exposing the truth about HIS business", and of course some rather true nature revelations that would advise a woman to be a man's "fantasy, take their shit, collect their money, then cleanse your soul"??? (As if these actions are mutually exclusive to begin with) think about how to dig yourself out of the compost mound, dearest, and remember by your very own foretelling, if you are not pure of heart with your intentions here, that you indeed will "get rewarded with Karma everyday". ...this is the first and the last time I will speak on this portion of the topic. Punkt. [Edited 8/29/06 6:42am] Look, hun, you have made your mind up about me already so anything I say will not change your mind. That is ok. I don't know Robin, I don't know Prince, I never felt like I tried to expose them or anything. I don't feel like anything she has said has brought me closer to him or whatever, but if that is your perception of me, ok. I just felt like her bringing it up that she WANTED to talk about it so I was just showing her the proper respect by asking her a question about it, because I feel like she wanted to express herself. I don't want to invade her privacy or Prince's or whoever. That was never my intention. I have never asked about their sex life or anything like that because I honestly felt like it was non of my business...I didn't think asking about Prince's opinion about her childhood was in any way in violation or his privacy. And if it came off this way then I apologize. By the way I never remember asking Robin if she ever danced exotically, but if she says I did then I guess I did. When I said I orgnoted her I asked her to please send me her email address again because my computer crashed and I lost it and I wanted to send her my picture so she could see who I was. That is what my orgnote was about. But honestly I think I should stop posting here because it has been getting to the point where I feel like I am not welcomed being a part of your community. But I had fun and learned alot so...I wish all of you good luck.  | |
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Number23 said: Jesus Christ. SO DO I  ONLY LOVE! | |
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dustysgirl said: Rhondab said: ALSO, with Chocolatetiger and your vision for empowering women of color through their sexuality.....What is your plan to provide this as a means of "empowerment" without objectifying women and exploiting them yourself? It would seem that there's more opportunity for empowerment through your personal story of healing and overcoming (if you're there at this point) vs seeking so-called "empowerment through sexuality". I'm glad someone else said this. But I've been wondering the same thing. And also, I'm just going to say this, which will probably make Robin mad, but the overtly sexual behaviour, pictures, videos, etc. really do seem to be contradictory to the Bible, which she herself quotes all the time. And to defend myself before someone jumps all over me, she is the one who chose to make her childhood and her current beliefs public and therefore up for discussion. MAKING LOVE IN MY EYES YOU NOR I WOULD BE HERE!!! THERE WAS A TIME WHEN MY PEOPLE WERE FREE! IN PARADISE! NO CLOTHES NO CHAINS! NOT SLAVES TO THE AMERICAN WAY OF THINKING  A YOUNG WOMAN WOULD DANCE NAKED! IN ALL HER GLORY AND HER KING WOULD CHOSE HER AS HIS QUEEN HIS WIFE HIS MATE MY SPIRIT HAS ALWAYS BEEN & WILL ALWAYS BE FREE! MY SPIRIT REMEMBERS WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE IN THIS PARADISE! IN ZION IN HEAVEN! I HAVE THAT RIGHT! I HAVE THAT CHOICE! AND NO ONE CAN JUDGE ME IT'S MY FREEDOM TO EXPRESS MYSELF! AND THERE ARE SO MANY GIRLS OUT THERE WHO ARE JUDGED EVERY DAY FOR JUST WANTING TO BE SAFE TO BE FREE SPIRITS! I AM HERE FOR THEM!!! I WILL CHANGE IT AND I WILL PROTECT THEM! | |
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Rhondab said: Ottensen said: Little mama, he has so little to do with this  Girl...lol...yanno That comment was self-serving but anyway..... I do understand Prince's response, even though it was insensitive and if that's what he did state. There's a difference of sharing a story vs reliving the past. Your past ISN'T the REAL YOU unless you still living it. Yes the experiences shape you but its not YOU. Robin, I'm wondering, by reading your responses and comments throughout this thread, have you sought traditional/alternative therapy for your healing? I'm just curious how you've gone about healing yourself from all of the hurts. ALSO, with Chocolatetiger and your vision for empowering women of color through their sexuality.....What is your plan to provide this as a means of "empowerment" without objectifying women and exploiting them yourself? It would seem that there's more opportunity for empowerment through your personal story of healing and overcoming (if you're there at this point) vs seeking so-called "empowerment through sexuality". Thanks for your response in advance. | |
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Rhondab said: Lastly,
OK BABYGIRL! #1 MY EDITS ARE BECAUSE MY SPELLING SUCKS the fact that you've edited your one response to Krystal four to five times IN RESPONSE to what I've said...says a WHOLE LOT. I've read all of your "edits".
me and Ottensen and others are here. SO WHEN I SEE THAT I HAVE MISS-SPELLED SOMTHING I GO BACK TO FIX IT #2 I AM AT THE LIBRARY SO I GET KICKED OFF THE COMPUTER AND I HAVE TO GET BACK ON TO FINISH! NO AS FOR A MIRROR! I HAVE MANY ALL AROUND NY HOUSE GOD TELLS ME TO TELL THE WORLD! WHAT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH & WHAT I AM GOING THROUGH! BECAUSE IF IT CAN HELP ONE CHILD OF GOD UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE NOT ALONE THAN I AM DOING MY JOB! AND HEAVENS WORK!!! I WILL BE JUST FINE GOD TAKES GOOD CARE OF ME! BUT WE ALL GET SCARED SOMETIMES! DON'T YOU? | |
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Ottensen said: Krystal666 said: Look girl, Robin is the type of person who feels comfortable telling others about her life obviously, if she didn't she wouldn't have awnsered our questions. And for the record I did ask her a question which she did not feel was appropriate to elaborate on and that is totally fine with me, I can definatley respect that. I was asking her about her life...I think what she wrote about dancing is 100% honest, I know because I am a dancer and alot of people judge me and judge what my life is about, they think I am a certain type of person because of what I have chosen to do...but they don't know my life and they don't know what kind of person I am and they definatly don't know all the emotions and difficulties a woman goes through when she chooses to do this...I'm not saying it is all bad, it has opened doors for me that would have never been opened to me if I had not found the courage and strength to do this..but it has taken it's own toll on me...but it is all apart of my plan to set up my security for the future. Whatever feelings/things I have to heal after I retire from this I am well aware I have address but everyone is born with certain abilities or strenghts that able them to survive. My question asking Robin what she thought about dancing was in no way trying to exploit her life, she is a grown woman and can protect herself. And Robin...you don't know how much I can relate to what you said....that is very much the life of the dancer...those feelings and thoughts we all have. It is a very rough buisness and I would in no way want my future daughters to do it but I'm glad this profession is available to those who want to use it to get to where they need to go. And for me, I know I am a good person, I believe in God, I treat others with respect, I treat myself with respect and I don't do things that make me feel bad about myself. That may not gaurantee maximum amount of money but you know what...I'm doing just fine and I know my soul is intact and I get rewarded with karma every day. Robin thank you for being honest and exposing the truth about his buisness. You have learned in a weekend the truth about it what most girls in it haven't figured out in years. You are beautiuful and talented and don't let any man, expecially a man in a gentleman's club, make you think any different. Most of them hate women anyway. Be their fantasy, take their shit, then collect your money and cleanse your soul.
Oh and btw Rhondab I've never been sexually abused so not all girls in this buisness have been, I have my own issues with my past but I'm strong enough to deal with them. Do not think for one second that I am done .
...so now that you've made some very transparent moves with the infinitive Prince probing, the very Freudian slip that "thanked" Robin for "exposing the truth about HIS business", [Edited 8/29/06 6:42am] OMG! I just read this again and I can't believe this! Dude, it's just a typo! I just ment THIS buisness as in exotic dancing! Not Prince's buisness as in HIS!!! hahahha....well wow...I really resent this picture you are trying to paint of me. But just to clarify it was just mispell but I know you are not going to believe me anyway...so uhhh yeah whatever...peace out. | |
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Krystal666 said: Rhondab said: And to you Krystal: After all of that Robin said about why she finds herself dancing, your response was "What do you think of it?"
The woman just poured out her heart about being evicted, child support issues and your response was, "what do you think of it?" It also falls inline with you asking her what prince felt about her abuse. Who cares about prince when this woman IS disclosing all of this. You are looking very transparent.
[Edited 8/28/06 16:17pm] Look girl, Robin is the type of person who feels comfortable telling others about her life obviously, if she didn't she wouldn't have awnsered our questions. And for the record I did ask her a question which she did not feel was appropriate to elaborate on and that is totally fine with me, I can definatley respect that. I was asking her about her life...I think what she wrote about dancing is 100% honest, I know because I am a dancer and alot of people judge me and judge what my life is about, they think I am a certain type of person because of what I have chosen to do...but they don't know my life and they don't know what kind of person I am and they definatly don't know all the emotions and difficulties a woman goes through when she chooses to do this...I'm not saying it is all bad, it has opened doors for me that would have never been opened to me if I had not found the courage and strength to do this..but it has taken it's own toll on me...but it is all apart of my plan to set up my security for the future. Whatever feelings/things I have to heal after I retire from this I am well aware I have address but everyone is born with certain abilities or strenghts that able them to survive. My question asking Robin what she thought about dancing was in no way trying to exploit her life, she is a grown woman and can protect herself. And Robin...you don't know how much I can relate to what you said....that is very much the life of the dancer...those feelings and thoughts we all have. It is a very rough buisness and I would in no way want my future daughters to do it but I'm glad this profession is available to those who want to use it to get to where they need to go. And for me, I know I am a good person, I believe in God, I treat others with respect, I treat myself with respect and I don't do things that make me feel bad about myself. That may not gaurantee maximum amount of money but you know what...I'm doing just fine and I know my soul is intact and I get rewarded with karma every day. Robin thank you for being honest and exposing the truth about his buisness. You have learned in a weekend the truth about it what most girls in it haven't figured out in years. You are beautiuful and talented and don't let any man, expecially a man in a gentleman's club, make you think any different. Most of them hate women anyway. Be their fantasy, take their shit, then collect your money and cleanse your soul.
Oh and btw Rhondab I've never been sexually abused so not all girls in this buisness have been, I have my own issues with my past but I'm strong enough to deal with them. YOU SEE & UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY! SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME, IF I WAS OR IF I HAD EVER BEEN AN EXOTIC DANCER! WELL I HAVE ALWAYS DANCED IN AN EXOTIC WAY JUST NEVER IN A MEN'S CLUB ONLY ON T.V., IN MOVIES & IN VIDEOS! YOU ALWAYS HEAR THAT THE MONEY IS GOOD! SO WHEN I THOUGHT MY BACK WAS UP AGAINST THE WALL THIS WEEK I TRIED IT IT'S NOT FOR ME! AND NOW I SEE WHAT THE GIRLS HAVE TO GO THROUGH! IT'S HARD AND NO PLACE FOR GOD'S BABY GIRLS THIS ONE GUY KEPT SAYING TO ME" THAT STAGE IS YOURS YOU OWN IT!! POWER" HE KEPT SAYING IT OVER AND OVER! WELL MAYBE HE IS RT! BECAUSE WHEN I LEFT THE CLUB I SAW MYSELF OWNING THE ENTIRE CLUB! I WOULD LOVE TO OWN THAT CLUB AND ALLOW THE BEAUTIFUL FREE SPIRITS! LIKE MYSELF TO DANCE & PREFORM IN A EXOTIC & BEAUTIFUL WAY WITH THE FREEDOM OF KNOWING THAT THERE BILLS WILL GET PAID & THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO WALK UP TO ANY MAN TO ASK FOR ANYTHING! THEY CAN JUST ENTERTAIN THE WORLD LIKE THEY WANT TO IN A SAFE PLACE WHERE THERE IS A MOTHER WHO CARES ABOUT THEM! I AM A MOTHER FIRST AND THE BABY GIRLS NEED TO BE UNDRESTOOD & PROTECTED NOT JUDGED! AND IF YOU ARE NOT FREE LIKE ME & KRYSTAL YOU WOULD NEVER UNDERSTAND! KRYSTAL YOU ARE VERY STRONG TO DO WHAT YOU DO I KISS THE GROUND YOU WALK ON! BUT I PROMISE THAT I WILL CHANGE YOUR WORLD FOR YOU! JUST HOLD ON I'M COMING [Edited 8/29/06 12:22pm] | |
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Ottensen said: Krystal666 said: Look girl, Robin is the type of person who feels comfortable telling others about her life obviously, if she didn't she wouldn't have awnsered our questions. And for the record I did ask her a question which she did not feel was appropriate to elaborate on and that is totally fine with me, I can definatley respect that. I was asking her about her life...I think what she wrote about dancing is 100% honest, I know because I am a dancer and alot of people judge me and judge what my life is about, they think I am a certain type of person because of what I have chosen to do...but they don't know my life and they don't know what kind of person I am and they definatly don't know all the emotions and difficulties a woman goes through when she chooses to do this...I'm not saying it is all bad, it has opened doors for me that would have never been opened to me if I had not found the courage and strength to do this..but it has taken it's own toll on me...but it is all apart of my plan to set up my security for the future. Whatever feelings/things I have to heal after I retire from this I am well aware I have address but everyone is born with certain abilities or strenghts that able them to survive. My question asking Robin what she thought about dancing was in no way trying to exploit her life, she is a grown woman and can protect herself. And Robin...you don't know how much I can relate to what you said....that is very much the life of the dancer...those feelings and thoughts we all have. It is a very rough buisness and I would in no way want my future daughters to do it but I'm glad this profession is available to those who want to use it to get to where they need to go. And for me, I know I am a good person, I believe in God, I treat others with respect, I treat myself with respect and I don't do things that make me feel bad about myself. That may not gaurantee maximum amount of money but you know what...I'm doing just fine and I know my soul is intact and I get rewarded with karma every day. Robin thank you for being honest and exposing the truth about his buisness. You have learned in a weekend the truth about it what most girls in it haven't figured out in years. You are beautiuful and talented and don't let any man, expecially a man in a gentleman's club, make you think any different. Most of them hate women anyway. Be their fantasy, take their shit, then collect your money and cleanse your soul.
Oh and btw Rhondab I've never been sexually abused so not all girls in this buisness have been, I have my own issues with my past but I'm strong enough to deal with them. OKAY. THAT'S IT. My motto in this life generally is to walk softly through it and carry a big stick, but there are some points I feel should be addressed here without whitewashing or euphemism. Please understand that I am speaking from passionate conviction, yes, but with an honest and heartfelt desire to understand what's happening here. Your response to Rhondab's post make it most abundantly clear that either everything she said somehow went over your head , young woman, OR you have tried, rather clumsily I might add, to sidewind your way around the point that you have an obsessive and transparent tendency to bring everything discussed here back around to Prince to get to him or feel closer to him or God knows what. My question is, which is it, Krystal? Do you not clearly see how probing into what Prince's opinion was of a woman's harrowing life journey while she's laying her life bare before our eyes is inapproriate at most and tactless at the least? Or do you not care because you have ulterior motives to begin with? Your posts, and empty compliments no matter how sugar coated you make them, certainly give one pause | |
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 Thanks alot Miss Power. That means alot coming from you. You are such a strong woman. | |
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RHONDAB THIS IS FOR YOU! PLEASE DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME I AM BLESSED IN EVERY WAY! I LOVE MY FREE SPIRIT THAT IS WHAT MAKES ME ROBIN POWER ROYAL ALL THREE OF ME! & YES THERE ARE THREE JESUS HAD THE FATHER SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT! I KNOW THAT I AM ALLOWED AT LEAST THREE! THE MOTHER THE FATHER AND THE BABY GIRL! I READ YOUR ORG NOTE! SEE I COME FROM WHAT YOU! ALL CALL THE WRONG SIDE OF THE TRACKS!!! THE LITTLE GHETTO GIRL WITH NO DADDY & A DRUG ADDICTED MOTHER! NO SUPERVISION....NO ONE WHO CARES! BUT YET I STAND HERE A WHOLE BEING! NO THREE WHOLE BEINGS! WITH THE UNDRESTANDING THAT IN ORDER TO FIX IT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO LIVE IT! JESUS HAD MARY & A MAN NAME JOE! I HAVE AND HAVE ALWAYS HAD GOD!!!! AND MY ANGELS ALL MY DREAMS HAVE ALWAYS COME TRUE! & THEY ALWAYS WILL! I SPEND MORE TIME WITH GOD THAN ANYONE I HAVE EVER KNOWN BECAUSE GOD IS WHO I SPEAK FOR GOD TELLS ME WHAT TO TELL ALL OF YOU! THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO ME! YOU WOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO BEGAIN TO UNDERSTAND! YOU AND NO ONE ELSE WILL EVER WALK IN MY SHOES! CRY MY TEARS! OVER COME MY FEARS! EXPERENCES MY EXPERENCES! MAKE LOVE THE WAY I DO! DANCE THE WAY THAT I DANCE! OR HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE WITH GOD! MY PARENTS MY ANGELS OR MY ANCESTORS THAT I HAVE! SO PLEASE STOP TRYING TO FIGURE ME OUT I AM NOT LIKE ANY ONE YOU HAVE EVER OR WILL EVER MEET! THERE IS ONLY ONE POWER! I AM THE HOLY SPIRIT! THE BABY GIRL OF GOD! AND JUST LIKE JESUS I HAVE MY OWN STORY!!!!! | |
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powerbaby said: RHONDAB THIS IS FOR YOU! PLEASE DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME I AM BLESSED IN EVERY WAY! I LOVE MY FREE SPIRIT THAT IS WHAT MAKES ME ROBIN POWER ROYAL ALL THREE OF ME! & YES THERE ARE THREE
JESUS HAD THE FATHER SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT! I KNOW THAT I AM ALLOWED AT LEAST THREE! THE MOTHER THE FATHER AND THE BABY GIRL! I READ YOUR ORG NOTE! SEE I COME FROM WHAT YOU! ALL CALL THE WRONG SIDE OF THE TRACKS!!! THE LITTLE GHETTO GIRL WITH NO DADDY & A DRUG ADDICTED MOTHER! NO SUPERVISION....NO ONE WHO CARES! BUT YET I STAND HERE A WHOLE BEING! NO THREE WHOLE BEINGS! WITH THE UNDRESTANDING THAT IN ORDER TO FIX IT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO LIVE IT! JESUS HAD MARY & A MAN NAME JOE! I HAVE AND HAVE ALWAYS HAD GOD!!!! AND MY ANGELS ALL MY DREAMS HAVE ALWAYS COME TRUE! & THEY ALWAYS WILL! I SPEND MORE TIME WITH GOD THAN ANYONE I HAVE EVER KNOWN BECAUSE GOD IS WHO I SPEAK FOR GOD TELLS ME WHAT TO TELL ALL OF YOU! THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO ME! YOU WOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO BEGAIN TO UNDERSTAND! YOU AND NO ONE ELSE WILL EVER WALK IN MY SHOES! CRY MY TEARS! OVER COME MY FEARS! EXPERENCES MY EXPERENCES! MAKE LOVE THE WAY I DO! DANCE THE WAY THAT I DANCE! OR HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE WITH GOD! MY PARENTS MY ANGELS OR MY ANCESTORS THAT I HAVE! SO PLEASE STOP TRYING TO FIGURE ME OUT I AM NOT LIKE ANY ONE YOU HAVE EVER OR WILL EVER MEET! THERE IS ONLY ONE POWER! I AM THE HOLY SPIRIT! THE BABY GIRL OF GOD! AND JUST LIKE JESUS I HAVE MY OWN STORY!!!!!God bless you Robin. That's all that's left to say. Peace be unto you sista. [Edited 8/29/06 19:21pm] | |
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With all do respect...There are many in the world just like you and hopefully they can overcome the cards life has dealt them too ....
We can only pray ..... Peace 2 U ... | |
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You know, when your back is up against the wall, there are other ways to make money that won't make you feel terrible. Don't they have temp services in Chicago that place you in jobs? Aren't there community action agencies in Chicago that will help people when they are in financial dire straights?
Pretty much everyone has a story to tell. I've had cars repossessed, a house nearly foreclosed on, utilities shut off here and there and have had to get food at times from food closets--and I have three kids! I can dance real good too and have a smokin' body, but I would never go dance at my local strip club. I'm too fabulous and worth more to let just any man ogle me. During those hard times, I had to realize that following my dreams of working only part-time for the school system (lame dream, I know), were hurting my family, and I had to go and get a real 40 hr/wk job. | |
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PleasurePrinciple said: @threadThis thread needs an enema! "Don't hate me cos I'm beautiful" | |
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babynoz said: Rhondab said: Lastly,
the fact that you've edited your one response to Krystal four to five times IN RESPONSE to what I've said...says a WHOLE LOT. I've read all of your "edits".
me and Ottensen and others are here. I've read your posts Rhonda. Thank you for saying what needed to be said. I know that it comes from a place of love. To Robin, I didn't come right out and say it but I was trying steer the conversation in another direction when I asked about your art. You have yet to respond to that post. When someone has been through as much as you have, it's sometimes hard to distinguish between attention and real love. I realize that we don't know you, but I agree with the women here who don't want to see you further exploited because of your openness. By all means, you should share what is truly on your mind and in your heart. Rhonda is trying to show you a way to do that without leaving yourself vulnerable to further victimization. Do you believe you are here for a reason Robin? I'd say that God is here right now speaking to the hearts of some of your sisters on this board and guiding them to reach out to you. Please embrace that, because these ladies want to embrace you even if you never mention Prince's name again. Ya feel me??? Please know that you are in my prayers, whatever you decide to do. Agreed. You are in a lot of people's prayers here. You are clearly here for a reason, with something important to share. No matter how it twists and turns, there are people here who can see your gentleness and the light in your heart. And, it has nothing to do with your outer beauty, or sexuality, or past accomplishments or associations good or bad. | |
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First, why did all of us stop to read this thread? Were we not just a bit intriqued as to what Robin had to say about her time with Prince? Admit it, we were/are being a little voyeuristic here. However, after reading through this entire thread, I have come to the conclusion that perhaps Rhonda, Otten and Babynoz have valid points here. I am a bit confused, but I am not going to pass judgement. I just hope that Robin gets things in order for her daughter's wellbeing. Peace. | |
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SDNafka said: PleasurePrinciple said: @threadThis thread needs an enema! Why. Folks are just expressing things that maybe others had on their mind but didn't want to say it.  | |
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Rhondab said: powerbaby said: RHONDAB THIS IS FOR YOU! PLEASE DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME I AM BLESSED IN EVERY WAY! I LOVE MY FREE SPIRIT THAT IS WHAT MAKES ME ROBIN POWER ROYAL ALL THREE OF ME! & YES THERE ARE THREE
JESUS HAD THE FATHER SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT! I KNOW THAT I AM ALLOWED AT LEAST THREE! THE MOTHER THE FATHER AND THE BABY GIRL! I READ YOUR ORG NOTE! SEE I COME FROM WHAT YOU! ALL CALL THE WRONG SIDE OF THE TRACKS!!! THE LITTLE GHETTO GIRL WITH NO DADDY & A DRUG ADDICTED MOTHER! NO SUPERVISION....NO ONE WHO CARES! BUT YET I STAND HERE A WHOLE BEING! NO THREE WHOLE BEINGS! WITH THE UNDRESTANDING THAT IN ORDER TO FIX IT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO LIVE IT! JESUS HAD MARY & A MAN NAME JOE! I HAVE AND HAVE ALWAYS HAD GOD!!!! AND MY ANGELS ALL MY DREAMS HAVE ALWAYS COME TRUE! & THEY ALWAYS WILL! I SPEND MORE TIME WITH GOD THAN ANYONE I HAVE EVER KNOWN BECAUSE GOD IS WHO I SPEAK FOR GOD TELLS ME WHAT TO TELL ALL OF YOU! THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO ME! YOU WOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO BEGAIN TO UNDERSTAND! YOU AND NO ONE ELSE WILL EVER WALK IN MY SHOES! CRY MY TEARS! OVER COME MY FEARS! EXPERENCES MY EXPERENCES! MAKE LOVE THE WAY I DO! DANCE THE WAY THAT I DANCE! OR HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE WITH GOD! MY PARENTS MY ANGELS OR MY ANCESTORS THAT I HAVE! SO PLEASE STOP TRYING TO FIGURE ME OUT I AM NOT LIKE ANY ONE YOU HAVE EVER OR WILL EVER MEET! THERE IS ONLY ONE POWER! I AM THE HOLY SPIRIT! THE BABY GIRL OF GOD! AND JUST LIKE JESUS I HAVE MY OWN STORY!!!!!God bless you Robin. That's all that's left to say. Peace be unto you sista. [Edited 8/29/06 19:21pm] BUT I HAVE TO DO THIS GOD'S WAY OR NO WAY AT ALL! I LOVE YA POWERBABY! | |
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evatorres said: With all do respect...There are many in the world just like you and hopefully they can overcome the cards life has dealt them too ....
PRAYER WORKS! I AM LIVING PROOF OF THAT We can only pray ..... Peace 2 U ... | |
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SDNafka said: PleasurePrinciple said: @threadThis thread needs an enema! | |
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dustysgirl said: You know, when your back is up against the wall, there are other ways to make money that won't make you feel terrible. Don't they have temp services in Chicago that place you in jobs? Aren't there community action agencies in Chicago that will help people when they are in financial dire straights?
WHEN YOU OWE $1,250.00 AND YOU HAVE TO PAY IT ALL AT ONCE! PLUS GO TO COURT! A TEMP JOB WAS THE LAST THING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT!!!! PLUS I HATE PAPERWORK Pretty much everyone has a story to tell. I've had cars repossessed, a house nearly foreclosed on, utilities shut off here and there and have had to get food at times from food closets--and I have three kids! I can dance real good too and have a smokin' body, but I would never go dance at my local strip club. I'm too fabulous and worth more to let just any man ogle me. During those hard times, I had to realize that following my dreams of working only part-time for the school system (lame dream, I know), were hurting my family, and I had to go and get a real 40 hr/wk job. I LOVE TO DANCE & I THOUGHT THAT I MIGHT LIKE DOING IT IN A MEN'S CLUB I WAS WRONG BUT MY MOTHER IN HEAVEN TOLD ME " HOW DO YOU KNOW UNTIL YOU TRY" IT WAS GOD'S WAY TO SHOW ME THAT I DON'T HAVE TO BE AFRADE OF ANYTHING! THAT WAS MY ONLY FEARFACTOR IN LIFE! & NOW I HAVE OVER COME THEM ALL! I AM VERY PROUD OF THAT! PLUS NOW I KNOW TRULY HOW THESE BABYGIRL'S ARE BEING TREATED AND HOW SLOWLY BUT SURLY THEIR SPIRITS ARE BEING BROKEN! THE MONEY IS NOT WORTH BEING BROKEN!!!! IN ANY WAY! SO NOW I AM TRYING TO SELL MY ART & I AM LOOKING FOR A JOB AS A GO-GO DANCER! IN SOME OF THE CLUBS I MUST KEEP DANCING!!! IT'S WHAT KEEPS ME YOUNG & FREE TO BE ME! | |
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