natful said: Hi Michael. Thanks for sharing with the fans. What are your thoughts on Prince's new album?
i honestly haven't heard it in it's entirety, and don't really plan on it.. i try to stay as uninformed as possible, so as not to seem negative or critical, when asked.. which is also why i didn't see the musicology tour, and tend to not buy new prince albums.. michael b. | |
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: natful said: Hi Michael. Thanks for sharing with the fans. What are your thoughts on Prince's new album?
i honestly haven't heard it in it's entirety, and don't really plan on it.. i try to stay as uninformed as possible, so as not to seem negative or critical, when asked.. which is also why i didn't see the musicology tour, and tend to not buy new prince albums.. Why? | |
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: natful said: Hi Michael. Thanks for sharing with the fans. What are your thoughts on Prince's new album?
i honestly haven't heard it in it's entirety, and don't really plan on it.. i try to stay as uninformed as possible, so as not to seem negative or critical, when asked.. which is also why i didn't see the musicology tour, and tend to not buy new prince albums.. michael b. Why? It's funny that all former Prince band members say the same thing. Is there anyway you could get Sonny to come on here? | |
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workingupahiyellasweat said: ebonyrhythmbuddha said: i honestly haven't heard it in it's entirety, and don't really plan on it.. i try to stay as uninformed as possible, so as not to seem negative or critical, when asked.. which is also why i didn't see the musicology tour, and tend to not buy new prince albums.. michael b. Why? It's funny that all former Prince band members say the same thing. Is there anyway you could get Sonny to come on here? yup. that's true. we all say the same thing, because the fans, in general, have alot of utopian ideas about where we come from, and how we should feel about what's transpired since we left there. and i think we all feel that if we disagreed with any direction prince has taken artistically, post our involvement, that the fans would interpret that as us being vindictive or callous or just plain haters.. which is why i just avoid the whole thing. sonny? nope.. probably not.. sonny isn't anti-social, but this sort of thing doesn't pique his interest.. michael b. | |
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: workingupahiyellasweat said: Why? It's funny that all former Prince band members say the same thing. Is there anyway you could get Sonny to come on here? yup. that's true. we all say the same thing, because the fans, in general, have alot of utopian ideas about where we come from, and how we should feel about what's transpired since we left there. and i think we all feel that if we disagreed with any direction prince has taken artistically, post our involvement, that the fans would interpret that as us being vindictive or callous or just plain haters.. which is why i just avoid the whole thing. sonny? nope.. probably not.. sonny isn't anti-social, but this sort of thing doesn't pique his interest.. michael b. Yeah, I can feel where you coming from. | |
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: workingupahiyellasweat said: Why? It's funny that all former Prince band members say the same thing. Is there anyway you could get Sonny to come on here? yup. that's true. we all say the same thing, because the fans, in general, have alot of utopian ideas about where we come from, and how we should feel about what's transpired since we left there. and i think we all feel that if we disagreed with any direction prince has taken artistically, post our involvement, that the fans would interpret that as us being vindictive or callous or just plain haters.. which is why i just avoid the whole thing. sonny? nope.. probably not.. sonny isn't anti-social, but this sort of thing doesn't pique his interest.. michael b. Heck, that even happens to us fans, if we may not like something Prince did, and we post it, we get flammed by some. So I can imagine it is magnified greatly for someone who actually played and recorded with him. To bad you cannot share with us all your opinions, I am really enjoying all this insight you are providing us. People may not realize it, but you (or others in the band) might not have even liked some of the music/stuff that was recorded/played when you were actually there. "Always blessings, never losses......"
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What is the toughest/most difficult gig you ever had? What was the easiest? What was the most enjoyable? "Always blessings, never losses......"
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Michael,
Have you even been on stage, had a brain-fart and forget where you were at on a song or what song was next and if so, how did you handle it? "Always blessings, never losses......"
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mister bland musicology and 3121 maybe aren't prince's greatest works,
but album like "the rainbow children" is the most amazing piece of music i ever heard on any album. if i want to hear where prince is in the sence of maturity and complexonin his music i go to that album -the raibow children- rarely some prince album caused that much contraversy as the rainbow children did.either you love it or hate it. production of the album is amazing ,the best production prince ever did. every sound is meaningful,full of joy , music is direct tribute to his heroes such as sly stone,jimi hendrix,santana ,james brown,miles davies... just check last december song starts like a balad then goes into guitar and drums madness which describes the way things go in life fast ,slower then very calm peaceful...sorry for to much bla bla,i just felt inspired | |
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Now that we are only a few weeks away from Soul Asylum shows my question is.... Who is the bass player going to be? Tommy was so good with you guys and I know he had Karls blessing. It is hard to imagine who else could step in. What are the plans? Thanks! | |
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Hi Mike
Prince always had his own sense of style. Which of Prince's outfit will you always remember because A. It was so cool. B. You thought the dude lost his mind. No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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sonicfreak said: Now that we are only a few weeks away from Soul Asylum shows my question is.... Who is the bass player going to be? Tommy was so good with you guys and I know he had Karls blessing. It is hard to imagine who else could step in. What are the plans? Thanks!
john fields will play with us, until mid-august, or so.. he produced the new album, and played bass on some cuts. i love playing with john, but he's gotta return to making rock, after the 10th of august, or so. we're hoping that axl has a meltdown, and tommy returns to us. we'll see.. michael b. | |
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Sowhat said: What is the toughest/most difficult gig you ever had? What was the easiest? What was the most enjoyable?
tough, in terms of endurance and proficiency? prince. tough, in terms of making music from a subjective standpoint, and having to be inventive, constantly? michel portal easiest? maxwell.. we did what was asked of us.. the show never really changed from night to night.. i still had a good time, but it was the first time i realized that i had been conditioned by my experience with prince, to want more happening all the time.. that wasn't what that gig was about. most enjoyable? anytime i get to play with jef lee johnson.. michael b. | |
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Sowhat said: Michael,
Have you even been on stage, had a brain-fart and forget where you were at on a song or what song was next and if so, how did you handle it? once, at wembley, we came out for an encore, and prince started talking like he wanted us to go into "call the law". BUT, my setlist said that"1999" was next. so, i had the dilemma of deciding to go with what appeared to be happening, versus what was supposed to happen.. i decided to ignore prince's verbal set up, and start "america".. he was visibly pissed off..LOL BUT.. he didn't come over and start screaming. he just asked me, later at the afterparty, "the next time you hear me say the words 'call the law' onstage, what'cha gonna do, michael b.?" and i said, "start 'call the law'..." he said, "cool..." and that was it.. the rest of the band was stunned that i didn't get cussed out.. LOL michael b. | |
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littlemissG said: Hi Mike
Prince always had his own sense of style. Which of Prince's outfit will you always remember because A. It was so cool. B. You thought the dude lost his mind. green outfit with navy pinstripes, everywhere.. including the boots.. michael b. [Edited 6/12/06 3:25am] | |
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: littlemissG said: Hi Mike
Prince always had his own sense of style. Which of Prince's outfit will you always remember because A. It was so cool. B. You thought the dude lost his mind. green outfit with navy pinstripes, everywhere.. including the boots.. michael b. [Edited 6/12/06 3:25am] Does that fall in catergory A or B? No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: Sowhat said: Michael,
Have you even been on stage, had a brain-fart and forget where you were at on a song or what song was next and if so, how did you handle it? once, at wembley, we came out for an encore, and prince started talking like he wanted us to go into "call the law". BUT, my setlist said that"1999" was next. so, i had the dilemma of deciding to go with what appeared to be happening, versus what was supposed to happen.. i decided to ignore prince's verbal set up, and start "america".. he was visibly pissed off..LOL BUT.. he didn't come over and start screaming. he just asked me, later at the afterparty, "the next time you hear me say the words 'call the law' onstage, what'cha gonna do, michael b.?" and i said, "start 'call the law'..." he said, "cool..." and that was it.. the rest of the band was stunned that i didn't get cussed out.. LOL michael b. Michael, So let me get this straight.... The original setlist was calling out for "1999", Prince was calling out for "Call the Law" and you started playing "America". Then you did not even get cussed out! I actually laughed out loud when I read that. Michael you are awesome! "Always blessings, never losses......"
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: Sowhat said: What is the toughest/most difficult gig you ever had? What was the easiest? What was the most enjoyable?
tough, in terms of endurance and proficiency? prince. tough, in terms of making music from a subjective standpoint, and having to be inventive, constantly? michel portal easiest? maxwell.. we did what was asked of us.. the show never really changed from night to night.. i still had a good time, but it was the first time i realized that i had been conditioned by my experience with prince, to want more happening all the time.. that wasn't what that gig was about. most enjoyable? anytime i get to play with jef lee johnson.. michael b. "Always blessings, never losses......"
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Hi Michael,
Prince takes the "job" very seriously, certainly when you guys played live. You already told us he was no prankster. Can you then explain why he shaved Morris Hayes during "days of wild" as seen in the beautiful experience film? Was Morris aware this was going to happen? How did the rest of the band reacted? And I surely want to know how Barbarella felt... He had long hair at the time, did he go into the "Sh*t, I'll be the next one to get shaved" nightmare? Thanks for clarifying this event. | |
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Michael,
another one for you. Since you have been in contact with the french culture during your career (many french gigs with NPG, france gall's tour, collaboration with Michel Portal), I was wondering if you speak some french, or if you are interested by french philosophers? Thanks. | |
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Hi Michael
What do you think of Prince's use of drum machines? Do you think they suit the songs, or do you think he might be better served with real drums all the time? My Legacy
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mangoust2004 said: Michael,
oui, petit peux..
another one for you. Since you have been in contact with the french culture during your career (many french gigs with NPG, france gall's tour, collaboration with Michel Portal), I was wondering if you speak some french, or if you are interested by french philosophers? Thanks. but since i started spending more time in italy, a few years ago, my french started to suck.. the french philosophers never really did it for me, personally.. i did read some jean-paul sartre, on my way into college. but i don't think that "nausea" counts as philosophy.. LOL really, the cat that got to me was nietzsche.. not so much that i agreed with him, but his use of language was just so formidable.. he wrote a book, before he became a published philosopher, so to speak, on the origin of language. i guess that was part of his major, in college. that book really reflects the fact that he was always a great thinker, but just wasn't writing about things that had to do with social structure, religion,feminism, atheism, and wagner being an anti-semite.. still, he's totally entertaining when he's simply writing about how to construct a proper argument, or how when you say the word "red", some people see fire engine red.. others see blood red, and still other see violet, and how it's the exact same when someone says "funny".. anyway, i'm done gushing.. michael b. | |
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mangoust2004 said: Hi Michael,
Prince takes the "job" very seriously, certainly when you guys played live. You already told us he was no prankster. Can you then explain why he shaved Morris Hayes during "days of wild" as seen in the beautiful experience film? Was Morris aware this was going to happen? How did the rest of the band reacted? And I surely want to know how Barbarella felt... He had long hair at the time, did he go into the "Sh*t, I'll be the next one to get shaved" nightmare? Thanks for clarifying this event. it was staged.. so, none of us were surprised, or feared being next.. michael b. | |
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littlemissG said: ebonyrhythmbuddha said: green outfit with navy pinstripes, everywhere.. including the boots.. michael b. [Edited 6/12/06 3:25am] Does that fall in catergory A or B? i didn't find it particularly flattering on him.. but my wardrobe was pretty silly. so, what do i care? michael b. | |
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NDRU said: Hi Michael
What do you think of Prince's use of drum machines? Do you think they suit the songs, or do you think he might be better served with real drums all the time? I'd like to add to this question, if I may. Prince has always used the latest in musical gear, across the board, and seems to freely mix between live drummers and programmed drums. In a relatively short period of time, Prince went from having your virtuosic pounding to having Kirk Johnson's (very cool but still) programmed rhythms. I guess my only question here is whether or not you can shed any light on the choices Prince was making. I mean, it seems clear to me that a live drummer of your calibre would be the preferable way to go; do you think Prince was going for a different vibe with the programmed drums, or what? And do you have any feelings on the issue that you'd care to share? Again, thanks so much for your time and for participating in this forum! -G | |
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griffinw said: NDRU said: Hi Michael
What do you think of Prince's use of drum machines? Do you think they suit the songs, or do you think he might be better served with real drums all the time? I'd like to add to this question, if I may. Prince has always used the latest in musical gear, across the board, and seems to freely mix between live drummers and programmed drums. In a relatively short period of time, Prince went from having your virtuosic pounding to having Kirk Johnson's (very cool but still) programmed rhythms. I guess my only question here is whether or not you can shed any light on the choices Prince was making. I mean, it seems clear to me that a live drummer of your calibre would be the preferable way to go; do you think Prince was going for a different vibe with the programmed drums, or what? And do you have any feelings on the issue that you'd care to share? Again, thanks so much for your time and for participating in this forum! -G from what i've witnessed, there's no exact science, and sometimes, no rhyme or super significant reason for why prince chooses what he chooses.. he doesn't have any hard fast rules about music. it comes down to what's available to him, or how long he'll have to wait, or just getting the idea down. prince works impulsively. he has an idea, and needs for it to come to it's fruition asap, usually. which means sometimes he doesn't wanna wait for an engineer to get good drum sounds.. especially if the linn machine is just sitting there, and the sounds are fat, coming directly out of it. also, some things are meant to sound organic, and others are not. real drums invoke a different feeling than programmed ones. it depends on the subject matter, what the other instruments are intended to do, but mostly just what sounds good. sometimes prince reworks a track from electronic to organic, sometimes vice-versa. we recorded a version of 319 that was pretty rocking, but prince didn't like it. so, another version was constructed from that one, which had no bass, and the drums were programmed. in my opinion, it was more effective this way.. there's also the harmonic angle.. i remember when we were working on material for rosie's solo album. i overheard prince telling her that she had the kind of voice that belonged in a more organic environment, musically. he didn't like the way she sounded, as much, when she was singing with machines. she has a classic sound, vocally.. which is why most of her stuff was recorded with a rhythm section, and not pieced together with loops, and keyboards with sequencers, and drum machines.. michael b. [Edited 6/13/06 1:59am] | |
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: griffinw said: I'd like to add to this question, if I may. Prince has always used the latest in musical gear, across the board, and seems to freely mix between live drummers and programmed drums. In a relatively short period of time, Prince went from having your virtuosic pounding to having Kirk Johnson's (very cool but still) programmed rhythms. I guess my only question here is whether or not you can shed any light on the choices Prince was making. I mean, it seems clear to me that a live drummer of your calibre would be the preferable way to go; do you think Prince was going for a different vibe with the programmed drums, or what? And do you have any feelings on the issue that you'd care to share? Again, thanks so much for your time and for participating in this forum! -G from what i've witnessed, there's no exact science, and sometimes, no rhyme or super significant reason for why prince chooses what he chooses.. he doesn't have any hard fast rules about music. it comes down to what's available to him, or how long he'll have to wait, or just getting the idea down. prince works impulsively. he has an idea, and needs for it to come to it's fruition asap, usually. which means sometimes he doesn't wanna wait for an engineer to get good drum sounds.. especially if the linn machine is just sitting there, and the sounds are fat, coming directly out of it. also, some things are meant to sound organic, and others are not. real drums invoke a different feeling than programmed ones. it depends on the subject matter, what the other instruments are intended to do, but mostly just what sounds good. sometimes prince reworks a track from electronic to organic, sometimes vice-versa. we recorded a version of 319 that was pretty rocking, but prince didn't like it. so, another version was constructed from that one, which had no bass, and the drums were programmed. in my opinion, it was more effective this way.. there's also the harmonic angle.. i remember when we were working on material for rosie's solo album. i overheard prince telling her that she had the kind of voice that belonged in a more organic environment, musically. he didn't like the way she sounded, as much, when she was singing with machines. she has a classic sound, vocally.. which is why most of her stuff was recorded with a rhythm section, and not pieced together with loops, and keyboards with sequencers, and drum machines.. michael b. [Edited 6/13/06 1:59am] Thanks so much for all of your interesting and sometimes hilarious insights Michael. Best org thread ever. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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Michael, as I remember, the '92-'93 live NPG used few loops and samples, and relied heavily on organic horns. The '94-'95 live NPG (my favorite era, in case I haven't said so before) used significantly more loops and samples, often to great effect (especially on, say, Race, Now, and Days Of Wild). At the same time, though, Prince and the NPG were saying in interviews that music should be played live, and get rid of all the sequencers etc. - "who's gonna play music when the bomb drops and all the electronic equipment stops working?" [paraphrase] (I remember something about that in the Sunday Show interview where the man wore the Tora Tora outfit and gave all his answers through Mayte).
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: griffinw said: I'd like to add to this question, if I may. Prince has always used the latest in musical gear, across the board, and seems to freely mix between live drummers and programmed drums. In a relatively short period of time, Prince went from having your virtuosic pounding to having Kirk Johnson's (very cool but still) programmed rhythms. I guess my only question here is whether or not you can shed any light on the choices Prince was making. I mean, it seems clear to me that a live drummer of your calibre would be the preferable way to go; do you think Prince was going for a different vibe with the programmed drums, or what? And do you have any feelings on the issue that you'd care to share? Again, thanks so much for your time and for participating in this forum! -G from what i've witnessed, there's no exact science, and sometimes, no rhyme or super significant reason for why prince chooses what he chooses.. he doesn't have any hard fast rules about music. it comes down to what's available to him, or how long he'll have to wait, or just getting the idea down. prince works impulsively. he has an idea, and needs for it to come to it's fruition asap, usually. which means sometimes he doesn't wanna wait for an engineer to get good drum sounds.. especially if the linn machine is just sitting there, and the sounds are fat, coming directly out of it. also, some things are meant to sound organic, and others are not. real drums invoke a different feeling than programmed ones. it depends on the subject matter, what the other instruments are intended to do, but mostly just what sounds good. sometimes prince reworks a track from electronic to organic, sometimes vice-versa. we recorded a version of 319 that was pretty rocking, but prince didn't like it. so, another version was constructed from that one, which had no bass, and the drums were programmed. in my opinion, it was more effective this way.. there's also the harmonic angle.. i remember when we were working on material for rosie's solo album. i overheard prince telling her that she had the kind of voice that belonged in a more organic environment, musically. he didn't like the way she sounded, as much, when she was singing with machines. she has a classic sound, vocally.. which is why most of her stuff was recorded with a rhythm section, and not pieced together with loops, and keyboards with sequencers, and drum machines.. michael b. [Edited 6/13/06 1:59am] Thanks Michael. It sounds like you're most concerned with the big picture. Whatever works for the song is what's appropriate. I think that's what seperates amateur musicians from the greats. Amateurs are concerned that their parts aren't big enough, and tend to overplay--at least that's what happens in my band. I don't think my drummer would be too pleased to hear we were going to use a drum machine, even if the end result was 1999 and he'd still be in the video! My Legacy
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booyah said: Michael, as I remember, the '92-'93 live NPG used few loops and samples, and relied heavily on organic horns. The '94-'95 live NPG (my favorite era, in case I haven't said so before) used significantly more loops and samples, often to great effect (especially on, say, Race, Now, and Days Of Wild). At the same time, though, Prince and the NPG were saying in interviews that music should be played live, and get rid of all the sequencers etc. - "who's gonna play music when the bomb drops and all the electronic equipment stops working?" [paraphrase] (I remember something about that in the Sunday Show interview where the man wore the Tora Tora outfit and gave all his answers through Mayte).
Did these two aspects seem at odds to you at the time, or looking back now? yes, they did. but, i wasn't running the ship, and it was not my job to blow the whistle on contradicting statements, and whatnot... michael b. | |
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