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Finess said: i know but thou hast evaded my statement about Nelson Blowin' it "Purple House" was a great cover! I don't care what anyone says! Sure, he coulda done it note-fer-note like Buddy or John did, but, let Prince be "Prince," please!  "Whatever skin we're in
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: i can't tell you who was taking the survey.. michael b. Thanks for the reply, Mr. Bland! (this is a bit surreal to me) In the song "Calhoun Square," Prince has a dialogue at the beginning which reads, "Listen 2 the drummer (you, yes?), but u still wanna have fun, it shouldn't be work. two, three, babay..." Who's he talkin' to? "Whatever skin we're in
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Taurus said: 2. Wendy Melovin has stated that a lot of Prince's material in the late 80's and 90's was subpar. Mainly because the musicians he worked with during that time never questioned if the material was any good or not, they just played what they were told to play. During her tenure, she stated that she had the courage to let Prince know if something wasn't working or if sounded like sh!t she would let him know. Do you believe there's any validity to this? did she really say that? when? i know she has commented on the difference in "lyric"..but I dont recall her ever commenting the overall quality or calling out a specific timeperiod.. Space for sale... | |
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Finess said: booyah said: I think he means he doesn't recognize the title Habibi (since Machine Gun wasn't mentioned in the original post), which is probably because it was recorded somewhere around 1999-2000, years after Michael left the band, most likely with Kirky J as the drummer... But, to answer the question, there was a post on NPGOnlineLtd. somewhere around 1999-2000 that Prince had given a whole album of Hendrix covers to the Hendrix estate to do with as they wished - I would guess that this included both Habibi and Purple House, later released on the Power Of Soul Hendrix-cover compilation.  i know but thou hast evaded my statement about Nelson Blowin' it that's not a fair statement.. i've never heard a guitar player cover hendrix, and be great at it.. i hated stevie ray vaughn's playing, especially when he'd cover jimi.. michael b. | |
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nayroo2002 said: ebonyrhythmbuddha said: i can't tell you who was taking the survey.. michael b. Thanks for the reply, Mr. Bland! (this is a bit surreal to me) In the song "Calhoun Square," Prince has a dialogue at the beginning which reads, "Listen 2 the drummer (you, yes?), but u still wanna have fun, it shouldn't be work. two, three, babay..." Who's he talkin' to? i don't recall any of that... sorry. i haven't heard that song since we recorded it, or the last time we played it.. which is still at least 10 years ago.. michael b. | |
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First of all I just have to say that either I deal with a whole lot of jerks in my life, or Michael you come across as one of the most honest genuine "good" guys I've come across in a while. Who knows, you may well indeed be a jerk as well but you have the coolest vibe (well at least over the internet  ).
I'm not sure if this is too personal of a question about Prince but, many years ago in the late 70's early 80's, there was a article on Prince in "Right On" Magazine (yeah, I'm old) about him. It stated that he didn't have the ability to read music, as is the case with so many great musicians of the past and present. My question is, you mentioned he would have the music written out to you guys when you came in to work. Particularly for you as a drummer, exactly how did Prince himself write out you guys'parts? Did he learn to read music over the years and would write out musical notes? What did he do to let you guys know what he wanted. Thanks for answering our questions. I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin. | |
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sosgemini said: Taurus said: 2. Wendy Melovin has stated that a lot of Prince's material in the late 80's and 90's was subpar. Mainly because the musicians he worked with during that time never questioned if the material was any good or not, they just played what they were told to play. During her tenure, she stated that she had the courage to let Prince know if something wasn't working or if sounded like sh!t she would let him know. Do you believe there's any validity to this? did she really say that? when? i know she has commented on the difference in "lyric"..but I dont recall her ever commenting the overall quality or calling out a specific timeperiod.. Yes she did. When i get home I'll let you know which book i got it out of. There were extensive interview with Susan Rogers, Wendy and Lisa. It's the books where W&L even brought up that Prince had contacted them regarding "In This Bed I Scream", but he never got back with them. |
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Taurus said: sosgemini said: did she really say that? when? i know she has commented on the difference in "lyric"..but I dont recall her ever commenting the overall quality or calling out a specific timeperiod.. Yes she did. When i get home I'll let you know which book i got it out of. There were extensive interview with Susan Rogers, Wendy and Lisa. It's the books where W&L even brought up that Prince had contacted them regarding "In This Bed I Scream", but he never got back with them. Yes what book is this? | |
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: babynoz said: three chains o' gold is one of my all time faves! I also like Queen. The only part of 3 chains that reminds me of B.R. is the middle. So tell me once and for all Michael, did Prince have Queen in mind when he did 3 chains? If so, I say y'all wrote Queen a damn receipt on that one.... 
When you coming to Florida? edit [Edited 5/21/06 11:26am] here's the thing.. one of the aspects of prince's music that has always been astounding, is his background arrangements.. prince has some of the most imaginative ideas for background vocals i've ever heard.. "three chains o' gold" just happened to feature the vocals in a way that drew more attention to that.. i don't think he ever brought up queen, once, in the whole 7 years that i worked for him. don't know when i'll return to florida.. could be a while.. i hate the heat!! LOL michael b. Thanks Michael. I specifically asked you that question because you were actually there. I've heard so many people compare 3 chains to Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. Except for one small part, the two songs really don't remind me of one another. I suspect that a lot of people are just repeating what they heard someone else say. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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origmnd said: Taurus said: Yes she did. When i get home I'll let you know which book i got it out of. There were extensive interview with Susan Rogers, Wendy and Lisa. It's the books where W&L even brought up that Prince had contacted them regarding "In This Bed I Scream", but he never got back with them. Yes what book is this? Purple Reign by Liz Jones.... pg. 104 "....Lisa would be bold enough to say, this sounds like shit, says Wendy. She'd do that more than anyone, she would just go right up to him, absolutely fearless." pg. 193, when asked about Emancipation and other recordings Wendy states ".... I think there some great records in there and its phenomenal the output he has, there is a mad genius to it, but there are also some turds in there as well. I would prefer it he put out 11 brilliant tracks instead of every time you put one on you say that's good, that one's not so good. If you isolate yourself from other peoples opinions or adversity there's no growth. Maybe his later bands and people around him are brilliant and he just doesn't listen to them, maybe they don't know how to talk to him. we were really young and fearless when we were with him." The latter part really strengthens Michael B's. answer of my question. [Edited 5/23/06 18:12pm] |
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Taurus said: origmnd said: Yes what book is this? Purple Reign by Liz Jones.... pg. 104 "....Lisa would be bold enough to say, this sounds like shit, says Wendy. She'd do that more than anyone, she would just go right up to him, absolutely fearless." pg. 193, when asked about Emancipation and other recordings Wendy states ".... I think there some great records in there and its phenomenal the output he has, there is a mad genius to it, but there are also some turds in there as well. I would prefer it he put out 11 brilliant tracks instead of every time you put one on you say that's good, that one's not so good. If you isolate yourself from other peoples opinions or adversity there's no growth. Maybe his later bands and people around him are brilliant and he just doesn't listen to them, maybe they don't know how to talk to him. we were really young and fearless when we were with him." The latter part really strengthens Michael B's. answer of my question. [Edited 5/23/06 18:12pm] ahh..ic...yet she didnt qualify a specific timeperiod in that statement....is there another quote were she referenced the late 80's and early 90's? Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Taurus said: Purple Reign by Liz Jones.... pg. 104 "....Lisa would be bold enough to say, this sounds like shit, says Wendy. She'd do that more than anyone, she would just go right up to him, absolutely fearless." pg. 193, when asked about Emancipation and other recordings Wendy states ".... I think there some great records in there and its phenomenal the output he has, there is a mad genius to it, but there are also some turds in there as well. I would prefer it he put out 11 brilliant tracks instead of every time you put one on you say that's good, that one's not so good. If you isolate yourself from other peoples opinions or adversity there's no growth. Maybe his later bands and people around him are brilliant and he just doesn't listen to them, maybe they don't know how to talk to him. we were really young and fearless when we were with him." The latter part really strengthens Michael B's. answer of my question. [Edited 5/23/06 18:12pm] ahh..ic...yet she didnt qualify a specific timeperiod in that statement....is there another quote were she referenced the late 80's and early 90's? Nahhh, when i originally typed that question, i was going from memory from a book i read 10 years ago. As I'm looking at the book now the interviewer asked wendy about the current Emancipation cd and recordings since the revolution had disbanded. Wendy also stated in that same interview that it was very hard for her to listen to Sign o The Times because she and Lisa had lots of input on many of the songs on that album. [Edited 5/23/06 22:06pm] |
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Hey Michael,
Just a couple of questions if you're still around. 1) I know that most of the time Prince likes the drums right "in the pocket", did he ever specifically ask you to push the beat (play slightly ahead) or, conversely, lay back (play slightly behind)? Are there any examples of that on studio recordings? 2) I heard a rumor somewhere that the NPG jammed with Steve Vai at some stage....is that true? If so, how'd it go? Thanks, SDN "Don't hate me cos I'm beautiful" | |
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SDNafka said: Hey Michael,
Just a couple of questions if you're still around. 1) I know that most of the time Prince likes the drums right "in the pocket", did he ever specifically ask you to push the beat (play slightly ahead) or, conversely, lay back (play slightly behind)? Are there any examples of that on studio recordings? 2) I heard a rumor somewhere that the NPG jammed with Steve Vai at some stage....is that true? If so, how'd it go? Thanks, SDN 1. yes. as a matter of fact, "cream" is an example of such a request. prince asked me to make the snare play a little later than the kick drum and hi hat.. it's still one of my favorite tracks to listen to, that i was involved in. it really has something timeless to it. it always sounds and feels good, to me. 3. sonny and i jammed with steve vai.. his brother-in-law is sal greco, the long time studio maintenance engineer at paisley park. steve made his tour bus driver stop at paisley on his way out of town, to visit sal and hopefully meet/jam with prince. sonny was as the studio doing some recording or something when steve arrived.. so, he calls me and says, "dude, steve vai's here to jam with us.. you, me, and p!!" i live 15 minutes away from paisley, so i turn off nick at nite, and tell my wife (now, ex-wife)that i'm going out there.. i got there, and we waited around for prince to materialize.. he didn't.. so, me and sonny just started freestyling with steve.. we played a couple of feels he's used to.. the hard rock boogie type thing he does, and some kinda band of gypsies type stuff, y'know? then, sonny just turned the corner and started playing some funk!! so, i went with him.. but, steve don't really play that type of thing.. so, we just kinda knocked off, after that.. it was fun.. we played about an hour, he got on his tour bus and went to wisconsin without seeing prince, once.. the whole thing is on videotape.. somewhere.. michael b. [Edited 5/23/06 23:27pm] | |
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VelvetJ said: First of all I just have to say that either I deal with a whole lot of jerks in my life, or Michael you come across as one of the most honest genuine "good" guys I've come across in a while. Who knows, you may well indeed be a jerk as well but you have the coolest vibe (well at least over the internet as far as i know, prince still doesn't read music.. someone somewhat recently discussed this with him, and told me that he said something to the effect that, "if i learned how to read, now, it would interrupt or alter the way i work.."
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I'm not sure if this is too personal of a question about Prince but, many years ago in the late 70's early 80's, there was a article on Prince in "Right On" Magazine (yeah, I'm old) about him. It stated that he didn't have the ability to read music, as is the case with so many great musicians of the past and present. My question is, you mentioned he would have the music written out to you guys when you came in to work. Particularly for you as a drummer, exactly how did Prince himself write out you guys'parts? Did he learn to read music over the years and would write out musical notes? What did he do to let you guys know what he wanted. Thanks for answering our questions. somewhere in either this thread, or part 1, i mentioned that prince used to come to the studio, sometimes, with an old school, rectangular cassette deck. he would work out certain ideas at home, with the cassette recorder on top of the piano he had in his house.. then, he would just come to paisley and put this thing on top of the piano in studio A, lean his vocal mic over the speaker, so we could hear it in our headphones, and describe what he meant.. he would mouth drumbeats into the condenser mic of the tape recorder, while simultaneously playing the piano.. sometimes, he'd play a beat on the wooden part of the piano, with his hands, to show me what he wanted.. that's how he showed me what he had in mind for "sexy mf".. michael b. | |
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Hi Michael, thank you so much for taking the time to answering our questions.
My question is about the bluesy part at the end of "Saviour", did Prince want it in the song from the beggining or was it something that came up jamming? I also would like to know if you remember something about the session you record it. Thanx in advance | |
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[/quote].. i've never heard a guitar player cover hendrix, and be great at it.. i hated stevie ray vaughn's playing, especially when he'd cover jimi.. michael b.[/quote] WOW! That blows my mind that you feel that way. In my opinion, sometimes Stevie played Jimi better than Jimi played Jimi! His versions of Voodoo Chile and Little Wing give me the chills. | |
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newpowerboy said: Hi Michael, thank you so much for taking the time to answering our questions.
My question is about the bluesy part at the end of "Saviour", did Prince want it in the song from the beggining or was it something that came up jamming? I also would like to know if you remember something about the session you record it. Thanx in advance i think did come from jamming.. but it was declared a part of the arrangement, before anything got put to tape.. we went through periods where we would record using a tie line from studio A, that was sent across the building to the soundstage. we would come in to rehearse, and sometimes prince would have an idea for a song that he wanted to work out, or during rehearsal. so, instead of moving the amps and drums and stuff, we would just record from where we were. "rock n roll is alive" was also recorded that way.. probably in the same week. this was also how we recorded some of the live gigs that went on late night, at paisley. the live version of "days o'wild" from the crystal ball set, is one example.. michael b. [Edited 5/24/06 13:05pm] | |
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Michael, thanks again for answering all these questions - it gives us a fascinating insight into the process.
You've mentioned before that you mainly recorded material without any sense of whether it was intended for a particular project. With that in mind, though, I want to ask about the Emancipation album - he had mentioned it in late 1995 in an interview while you were still around, and clearly the thought of a multi-disc set was very appealing to him as his first 'independent' release. I was disappointed when the album came out that only 4 songs featured 'your' band. Did he talk to you all much about the Emancipation project before letting the band go? Were other band songs recorded for the project? As a insider/outsider at the time, what do you think of the Emancipation album? | |
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hi mike i love your drumming and my wife loves your hats.
question 1 Has any one in the band presented prince a song 4 an album or has he ever checked out some of u guys music? 2Have you ever heard or seen anything prince listens to (cd's)besides himself? wondering what inspires the little fella. stickman | |
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: nayroo2002 said: Thanks for the reply, Mr. Bland! (this is a bit surreal to me) In the song "Calhoun Square," Prince has a dialogue at the beginning which reads, "Listen 2 the drummer (you, yes?), but u still wanna have fun, it shouldn't be work. two, three, babay..." Who's he talkin' to? i don't recall any of that... sorry. i haven't heard that song since we recorded it, or the last time we played it.. which is still at least 10 years ago.. michael b. 1. Michael B, that's amazing to me. Being a former drummer, i find myself looking at old videos from high school and college, and listening to old tapes of my performances. Please help me understand how you can record a song as great as Calhoun Square and go TEN years without listening to it at all. 2. Are there any songs in Prince's catalogue before you joined the band that you wish you would have had the chance to play live? For example, I would have loved to hear songs like "Tamborine" or "Play In The Sunshine" performed live with you behind the set. |
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ebonyrhythmbuddha said: SDNafka said: Hey Michael,
Just a couple of questions if you're still around. 1) I know that most of the time Prince likes the drums right "in the pocket", did he ever specifically ask you to push the beat (play slightly ahead) or, conversely, lay back (play slightly behind)? Are there any examples of that on studio recordings? 2) I heard a rumor somewhere that the NPG jammed with Steve Vai at some stage....is that true? If so, how'd it go? Thanks, SDN 1. yes. as a matter of fact, "cream" is an example of such a request. prince asked me to make the snare play a little later than the kick drum and hi hat.. it's still one of my favorite tracks to listen to, that i was involved in. it really has something timeless to it. it always sounds and feels good, to me. 3. sonny and i jammed with steve vai.. his brother-in-law is sal greco, the long time studio maintenance engineer at paisley park. steve made his tour bus driver stop at paisley on his way out of town, to visit sal and hopefully meet/jam with prince. sonny was as the studio doing some recording or something when steve arrived.. so, he calls me and says, "dude, steve vai's here to jam with us.. you, me, and p!!" i live 15 minutes away from paisley, so i turn off nick at nite, and tell my wife (now, ex-wife)that i'm going out there.. i got there, and we waited around for prince to materialize.. he didn't.. so, me and sonny just started freestyling with steve.. we played a couple of feels he's used to.. the hard rock boogie type thing he does, and some kinda band of gypsies type stuff, y'know? then, sonny just turned the corner and started playing some funk!! so, i went with him.. but, steve don't really play that type of thing.. so, we just kinda knocked off, after that.. it was fun.. we played about an hour, he got on his tour bus and went to wisconsin without seeing prince, once.. the whole thing is on videotape.. somewhere.. michael b. [Edited 5/23/06 23:27pm] A monment in time with McGoo Steve Vai,,,o-yes,,,I remember now..It was a Late night (well its always a late night @ the park)just, sonny, me & Mike-Mike----O-----&-----P (up in his room).Mike-mike & Sonny start rockin-----Steve jumps in head first-----and their off-----Ring ring-----ring ring-----goo=yo-----P=who's that-----goo=Sonny, Michael & Steve Vai-----goo=Steve wants 2 know if u would come jam with him-----P=ummmmm-----P=can u tape them-----goo=I guess so-----P=click. This has been a moment in time with Goo. | |
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goo said: ebonyrhythmbuddha said: 1. yes. as a matter of fact, "cream" is an example of such a request. prince asked me to make the snare play a little later than the kick drum and hi hat.. it's still one of my favorite tracks to listen to, that i was involved in. it really has something timeless to it. it always sounds and feels good, to me. 3. sonny and i jammed with steve vai.. his brother-in-law is sal greco, the long time studio maintenance engineer at paisley park. steve made his tour bus driver stop at paisley on his way out of town, to visit sal and hopefully meet/jam with prince. sonny was as the studio doing some recording or something when steve arrived.. so, he calls me and says, "dude, steve vai's here to jam with us.. you, me, and p!!" i live 15 minutes away from paisley, so i turn off nick at nite, and tell my wife (now, ex-wife)that i'm going out there.. i got there, and we waited around for prince to materialize.. he didn't.. so, me and sonny just started freestyling with steve.. we played a couple of feels he's used to.. the hard rock boogie type thing he does, and some kinda band of gypsies type stuff, y'know? then, sonny just turned the corner and started playing some funk!! so, i went with him.. but, steve don't really play that type of thing.. so, we just kinda knocked off, after that.. it was fun.. we played about an hour, he got on his tour bus and went to wisconsin without seeing prince, once.. the whole thing is on videotape.. somewhere.. michael b. [Edited 5/23/06 23:27pm] A monment in time with McGoo Steve Vai,,,o-yes,,,I remember now..It was a Late night (well its always a late night @ the park)just, sonny, me & Mike-Mike----O-----&-----P (up in his room).Mike-mike & Sonny start rockin-----Steve jumps in head first-----and their off-----Ring ring-----ring ring-----goo=yo-----P=who's that-----goo=Sonny, Michael & Steve Vai-----goo=Steve wants 2 know if u would come jam with him-----P=ummmmm-----P=can u tape them-----goo=I guess so-----P=click. This has been a moment in time with Goo. Thanks for the replies michael, and Goo, I've always loved the groove on "cream" there was something about it that made it swing...now I know what it is. Must have been great fun jamming with Vai....and the Goo taped it! Thats one tape I'd love to see. Strange for Prince not to show though....wait, what am I saying? Its not strange for Prince at all...nothing is strange for Prince. [Edited 5/24/06 23:21pm] "Don't hate me cos I'm beautiful" | |
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Hey Michael B! I have another question if you feel like awnsering it. What was the Sexy MF video shoot like? Did you ever meet Troy Beyer? What did you think about her?  | |
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goo said: P=ummmmm-----P=can u tape them-----goo=I guess so-----P=click.
This has been a moment in time with Goo. "ummmmm" as in "I'd love to, but I'm tired", or "ummmmm" as in "I don't really dig Steve Vai"? | |
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So why didn't Prince want to play with Stevie Vai? I don't get that...how can you have one of the best in your studio and not want to at least meet him? | |
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How good of a drummer is Prince?
I know he is way above average on the Guitar, Bass, Piano, but I have rarely seen him play drums so I really do not know how good he is. Is he good enough to be able to be a drummer for a band on our? Is he just good enough to record some stuff and that is it? What do you think? "Always blessings, never losses......"
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goo said: ebonyrhythmbuddha said: 1. yes. as a matter of fact, "cream" is an example of such a request. prince asked me to make the snare play a little later than the kick drum and hi hat.. it's still one of my favorite tracks to listen to, that i was involved in. it really has something timeless to it. it always sounds and feels good, to me. 3. sonny and i jammed with steve vai.. his brother-in-law is sal greco, the long time studio maintenance engineer at paisley park. steve made his tour bus driver stop at paisley on his way out of town, to visit sal and hopefully meet/jam with prince. sonny was as the studio doing some recording or something when steve arrived.. so, he calls me and says, "dude, steve vai's here to jam with us.. you, me, and p!!" i live 15 minutes away from paisley, so i turn off nick at nite, and tell my wife (now, ex-wife)that i'm going out there.. i got there, and we waited around for prince to materialize.. he didn't.. so, me and sonny just started freestyling with steve.. we played a couple of feels he's used to.. the hard rock boogie type thing he does, and some kinda band of gypsies type stuff, y'know? then, sonny just turned the corner and started playing some funk!! so, i went with him.. but, steve don't really play that type of thing.. so, we just kinda knocked off, after that.. it was fun.. we played about an hour, he got on his tour bus and went to wisconsin without seeing prince, once.. the whole thing is on videotape.. somewhere.. michael b. [Edited 5/23/06 23:27pm] A monment in time with McGoo Steve Vai,,,o-yes,,,I remember now..It was a Late night (well its always a late night @ the park)just, sonny, me & Mike-Mike----O-----&-----P (up in his room).Mike-mike & Sonny start rockin-----Steve jumps in head first-----and their off-----Ring ring-----ring ring-----goo=yo-----P=who's that-----goo=Sonny, Michael & Steve Vai-----goo=Steve wants 2 know if u would come jam with him-----P=ummmmm-----P=can u tape them-----goo=I guess so-----P=click. This has been a moment in time with Goo.
I like the Goo moments...more please. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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What's up, Michael B!
Thanks for answering all these questions, man. I have some for ya, too. 1. Did Prince ever have cookouts or social gatherings or call and ask you to meet him at a bar or anything like that? Or was it 24/7 professional? 2. Around the time when you and Sonny were fired, were you recording what you thought was Emancipation? Were you involved in any of that except for those couple songs? Did he fire you guys out of nowhere right in the middle of working on a new album or did you know that you were going to contribute to the new album at all? 3. Do you remember there being talks with Levi about an NPG All-Stars tour at some point around '92 or '93? 4. Was there ever a point where Prince would ask you and Sonny for more input (sort of like he did with Levi)? Was there any writing on your part or was it just Prince directing every step of the way? Hope that's not too much! | |
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what's up mike
question 1. I'm a piano player with a nice amount of songs i've written. Although they are from a cassette tape on top of the piano and keyboard,friends seem to think i'm a very good song writer. I would rather not perform them and would love for a performer to have them,what would u advise me to do with these songs from my heart, that i really took time to write.Am i tripping thinking someone would be intrested in them even though they are on tape. I have no idea where to go from here.I consider myself a writer not a performer i'm 34 a little to old for that. 2.Did prince try to get u band members to be vegeterians?.does he talk about eating? looks like he does not eat. stickman | |
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