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Reply #30 posted 03/14/06 5:36pm

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No one has mentioned this yet...or maybe (gasp) yall never noticed it...

Go back and listen to this one whilst headphones are sungly attached to your head.

Listen real close at the beginning. REAL CLOSE.

You can hear a woman saying that intro bit and then him repeating it as if she's telling him what to say.

You can hear it most clearly when she says "funk 'n habit formed leather wearin'..."

Now what I wanna know...who was THAT?
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Reply #31 posted 03/14/06 10:17pm

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sorry for duplicate post. since when did posts get page 2 links?
[Edited 3/14/06 22:20pm]
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Reply #32 posted 03/14/06 10:19pm

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My question is this:

Was Prince playing bass AND keyboard "hoens" at THE SAME TIME?

Or did they record the bass and keys on separate tracks?

THe bass doesn't drop out during the synth horns so how could he keep it going? By palying the bass just with the left hand on the frets? IS that possible? I think St. Paul does it on his recent DVD for a little bit, but that seems really hard to do.
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Reply #33 posted 03/15/06 5:01am

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blackguitaristz said:

boyubad said:




go back and re-read the post by "madhouseman".
unfortunately,you have your "facts" wrong(again)...

Don't have to go back and read shit. I'm going to trust what Cymone told me than anybody's thought process on this subject on here. And that little "you have your facts wrong again" shit is unvalid. That shit doesn't fit me, player. It's very rare when I even use the word "fact" and when I do, it's cuz I personally know the folks that are being discussed and the topic at hand. Period. On this, I don't have to refer to some book some cat wrote.



why do you become so defensive when you are challenged with the truth?
you have stated nothing that is based on "fact",only gossip.
also,Andre says he has no clue who you are,Chris.
game over.
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Reply #34 posted 03/15/06 10:26am

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boyubad said:

blackguitaristz said:


Don't have to go back and read shit. I'm going to trust what Cymone told me than anybody's thought process on this subject on here. And that little "you have your facts wrong again" shit is unvalid. That shit doesn't fit me, player. It's very rare when I even use the word "fact" and when I do, it's cuz I personally know the folks that are being discussed and the topic at hand. Period. On this, I don't have to refer to some book some cat wrote.



why do you become so defensive when you are challenged with the truth?
you have stated nothing that is based on "fact",only gossip.
also,Andre says he has no clue who you are,Chris.
game over.

Jealousy must be a drag...Yes, I'm sure he said that. Just like folks on here, Paligap, MinnieG, Funk Mistress and others, haven't heard the session with me playing lead guitar on the Morris song "Skirt" that Andre engineered at his loft. "Why are you defensive" and "game over, Chris"? Damn, those quotes are funny as hell. I think boyubad is a female that is hurt because I haven't paid the RIGHT KIND of attention to her. So let me say that I apologize to u, boyubad, and I'll start today on spending more time with u. Cool babygirl?
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Reply #35 posted 03/15/06 10:32am

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blackguitaristz said:

boyubad said:




why do you become so defensive when you are challenged with the truth?
you have stated nothing that is based on "fact",only gossip.
also,Andre says he has no clue who you are,Chris.
game over.

Jealousy must be a drag...Yes, I'm sure he said that. Just like folks on here, Paligap, MinnieG, Funk Mistress and others, haven't heard the session with me playing lead guitar on the Morris song "Skirt" that Andre engineered at his loft. "Why are you defensive" and "game over, Chris"? Damn, those quotes are funny as hell. I think boyubad is a female that is hurt because I haven't paid the RIGHT KIND of attention to her. So let me say that I apologize to u, boyubad, and I'll start today on spending more time with u. Cool babygirl?


lol
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Reply #36 posted 03/15/06 10:34am

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hopefully there are some credits left for you to continue blackguitaristz.
or just insert one more coin smile
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Reply #37 posted 03/15/06 10:56am

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blackguitaristz said:

boyubad said:




why do you become so defensive when you are challenged with the truth?
you have stated nothing that is based on "fact",only gossip.
also,Andre says he has no clue who you are,Chris.
game over.

Jealousy must be a drag...Yes, I'm sure he said that. Just like folks on here, Paligap, MinnieG, Funk Mistress and others, haven't heard the session with me playing lead guitar on the Morris song "Skirt" that Andre engineered at his loft. "Why are you defensive" and "game over, Chris"? Damn, those quotes are funny as hell. I think boyubad is a female that is hurt because I haven't paid the RIGHT KIND of attention to her. So let me say that I apologize to u, boyubad, and I'll start today on spending more time with u. Cool babygirl?



so defensive... sad
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Reply #38 posted 03/15/06 11:04am

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urbanfox3105 said:

hopefully there are some credits left for you to continue blackguitaristz.
or just insert one more coin smile

Aaaah, very clever, fox. I like that. Hey, can u loan me a token? I used my last one playing Ms. PacMan.
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Reply #39 posted 03/15/06 11:19am

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blackguitaristz said:

urbanfox3105 said:

hopefully there are some credits left for you to continue blackguitaristz.
or just insert one more coin smile

Aaaah, very clever, fox. I like that. Hey, can u loan me a token? I used my last one playing Ms. PacMan.


man, don´t ask me for money until I defeat Akuma!
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Reply #40 posted 03/15/06 11:25am

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Can one of y'all who have the inside scoop reply to my question about the keyboards? I'm really curious about that.
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Reply #41 posted 03/15/06 11:28am

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GaryMF said:

Can one of y'all who have the inside scoop reply to my question about the keyboards? I'm really curious about that.


yea, wanna know that too. and again: who is the freakin Michelin Man?
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Reply #42 posted 03/15/06 12:03pm

IAintTheOne

jesus freakin christ, 2 cats cant play the dozens on a record without ya'll trippin on some shit its morris and prince and jerome fuckin around' simple as that. can we all just get over it. this shit was back in 83.. its 06..
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Reply #43 posted 03/15/06 1:13pm

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IAintTheOne said:

jesus freakin christ, 2 cats cant play the dozens on a record without ya'll trippin on some shit its morris and prince and jerome fuckin around' simple as that. can we all just get over it. this shit was back in 83.. its 06..
[Edited 3/15/06 12:03pm]


I think there´s some kind of secret message in this song. maybe conspiracy! and the leading head is the Michelin Man a.k.a. we-want-to-know!
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Reply #44 posted 03/15/06 2:18pm

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GaryMF said:

My question is this:

Was Prince playing bass AND keyboard "hoens" at THE SAME TIME?

Or did they record the bass and keys on separate tracks?

THe bass doesn't drop out during the synth horns so how could he keep it going? By palying the bass just with the left hand on the frets? IS that possible? I think St. Paul does it on his recent DVD for a little bit, but that seems really hard to do.

Hey Gary, what it is?! P played bass on one track, probably live along with Morris on skins, and then overdubbed the keys on a seperate track.
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Reply #45 posted 03/15/06 3:28pm

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blackguitaristz said:

GaryMF said:

My question is this:

Was Prince playing bass AND keyboard "hoens" at THE SAME TIME?

Or did they record the bass and keys on separate tracks?

THe bass doesn't drop out during the synth horns so how could he keep it going? By palying the bass just with the left hand on the frets? IS that possible? I think St. Paul does it on his recent DVD for a little bit, but that seems really hard to do.

Hey Gary, what it is?! P played bass on one track, probably live along with Morris on skins, and then overdubbed the keys on a seperate track.

That's what I was wondering..... if he overdubbed the keys later, or tried to play the keys with one hand while doign the frets on the bass with his left.

I only played bass for a few months (still need to get mine restrung and try again), but I dind't know if it was possible to do what I just said.

I got ST. Paul's new DVD and when he's doing Junle Love he's playing bass, and sometimes he took is right hand off the strings to gesture etc. but kept the bass line going by just using his left hand on the fret board. I don't know how to make that work since I was just beingging to play.
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Reply #46 posted 03/15/06 3:44pm

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GaryMF said:

blackguitaristz said:


Hey Gary, what it is?! P played bass on one track, probably live along with Morris on skins, and then overdubbed the keys on a seperate track.

That's what I was wondering..... if he overdubbed the keys later, or tried to play the keys with one hand while doign the frets on the bass with his left.

I only played bass for a few months (still need to get mine restrung and try again), but I dind't know if it was possible to do what I just said.

I got ST. Paul's new DVD and when he's doing Junle Love he's playing bass, and sometimes he took is right hand off the strings to gesture etc. but kept the bass line going by just using his left hand on the fret board. I don't know how to make that work since I was just beingging to play.

That comes from years of playing. U develop the strength in your fingers and your wrist. That's when u get a natural vibrato going. That's what Paul is doing. Many guitarists do it as well. It's really easy to do when your sound is set on distortion. U can play certain runs on a guitar without even picking if your vibrato and pull-offs are on. Just keep playing, and over time, you'll develop it.
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Reply #47 posted 03/15/06 8:26pm

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blackguitaristz said:

GaryMF said:


That's what I was wondering..... if he overdubbed the keys later, or tried to play the keys with one hand while doign the frets on the bass with his left.

I only played bass for a few months (still need to get mine restrung and try again), but I dind't know if it was possible to do what I just said.

I got ST. Paul's new DVD and when he's doing Junle Love he's playing bass, and sometimes he took is right hand off the strings to gesture etc. but kept the bass line going by just using his left hand on the fret board. I don't know how to make that work since I was just beingging to play.

That comes from years of playing. U develop the strength in your fingers and your wrist. That's when u get a natural vibrato going. That's what Paul is doing. Many guitarists do it as well. It's really easy to do when your sound is set on distortion. U can play certain runs on a guitar without even picking if your vibrato and pull-offs are on. Just keep playing, and over time, you'll develop it.


Cool. I am focusing on keys now, but do want to start bass again.

But you think P defintely overdubbed those "gimme some horns" keys on Tricky, right?
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Reply #48 posted 03/16/06 7:49am

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GaryMF said:

blackguitaristz said:


That comes from years of playing. U develop the strength in your fingers and your wrist. That's when u get a natural vibrato going. That's what Paul is doing. Many guitarists do it as well. It's really easy to do when your sound is set on distortion. U can play certain runs on a guitar without even picking if your vibrato and pull-offs are on. Just keep playing, and over time, you'll develop it.


Cool. I am focusing on keys now, but do want to start bass again.

But you think P defintely overdubbed those "gimme some horns" keys on Tricky, right?

I would think so, yeah.
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Reply #49 posted 03/16/06 8:52am

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I'ma gon' hafta dig up & dust off my Grace single. I'm still not convinced it is Prince on there. If it's really him I wonder what else he's capable of.
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Reply #50 posted 03/16/06 10:41am

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HrdwcH said:

I'ma gon' hafta dig up & dust off my Grace single. I'm still not convinced it is Prince on there. If it's really him I wonder what else he's capable of.

Believe it, H! Dig player, P's doing "the voice" on Vanity6's "If A Girl Answers". Listen to that, then listen to Grace.
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Reply #51 posted 03/16/06 10:55am

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HrdwcH said:

I'ma gon' hafta dig up & dust off my Grace single. I'm still not convinced it is Prince on there. If it's really him I wonder what else he's capable of.



prince is not on Grace...case closed
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Reply #52 posted 03/16/06 12:18pm

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I heard from Brownmark's 3rd cousin, twice removed, that Prince is actually the one going off screaming about fur coats and jeww-ww-wlry at the end of Sheila E's "Toy Box"! boxed

Just teasin smile
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Reply #53 posted 03/16/06 3:20pm

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Hey yo Black, hate 2 say u'r wrong, but it's very clearly NOT Prince on Grace. Go ahead & listen 2.
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Reply #54 posted 03/16/06 3:21pm

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FruitToAttractBears said:


You can hear a woman saying that intro bit and then him repeating it as if she's telling him what to say.

You can hear it most clearly when she says "funk 'n habit formed leather wearin'..."

Now what I wanna know...who was THAT?


No one??? Well. I guess it's just me going crazy hearing things then. confused

But I swear it's there.
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Reply #55 posted 03/16/06 3:27pm

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HrdwcH said:

Hey yo Black, hate 2 say u'r wrong, but it's very clearly NOT Prince on Grace. Go ahead & listen 2.

U know what H? Not making excuses, but when I read your post about the Grace single, in my brain, I was thinking Tricky. Cuz that's what this thread was o.g. about, right? I was thinking, "Damn, why is homeboy thinking P's not on Tricky?" All the while your ass was talking about Grace and shit. No, P is NOT on Grace. I never would have asked u to go back and listen to Grace.
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Reply #56 posted 03/17/06 6:43am

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blackguitaristz said:

I know for a FACT that it's about Bootsy. And like u said, it's HELLA obvious in the lyrics. P ADORES Bootsy, that's why he did it. It's P on lead vocal, imitating Morris. Morris is on drums. P did the same thing earlier on another even better b-side, "Grace". He does the Morris voice also on Vanity 6's "If A Girl Answers".


Uhm, dun wanna B no smart ass, but who's post is this?
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Reply #57 posted 03/17/06 8:00am

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HrdwcH said:

blackguitaristz said:

I know for a FACT that it's about Bootsy. And like u said, it's HELLA obvious in the lyrics. P ADORES Bootsy, that's why he did it. It's P on lead vocal, imitating Morris. Morris is on drums. P did the same thing earlier on another even better b-side, "Grace". He does the Morris voice also on Vanity 6's "If A Girl Answers".


Uhm, dun wanna B no smart ass, but who's post is this?

Nah, it's a valid question. It's my post. This is the thing with Grace for me. I've ALWAYS linked Grace to P. When I found out that P did the voice on If A Girl Answers, then I thought "Well, hell. That's P on Grace too! For him to do it on a later track like Tricky, and then to have Morris tell me that P did the voice on Tricky... mentally, I always include Grace with the others.
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Reply #58 posted 03/17/06 11:38am

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Man, I was half an inch away 2 get ugly on U ..... jus' kiddin' biggrin
Just happy this misunderstandin'is outta the way.
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Reply #59 posted 03/17/06 1:11pm

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I've always wondered who could sing lines like:

When I look in the mirror, I see your ugly face... I just want to run...


that is REALLY an odd thing to say.
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